Letters August 2006 August 25 Orders from above due to recent political tensionsIn response to Bozorgui-Nesbat's "How to make enemies" With regard to Mr. Bozorgui-Nesbat's article and other issues surrounding the Sharif University reunion, when I first read about the incident, my original thought was, "So what?" We've all had parents, uncles, aunts, and cousins who tried to come to the US and got rejected--and these were people who had American residents and citizens as sponsors! Indeed, Iran and the US haven't had diplomatic ties since the Hostage Crisis of 1979 and all Iranian citizens--including yours truly and thousands of others--have had to endure hardship in US embassies and consulates. From reading some of the articles, I get the feeling that some Sharif University alumni are rather conceited and erroneously thought that their alma mater would somehow make them immune to INS treatments. I believe that the officials' orders had come from above and were due to recent political tensions. It looks like all the folks who entered the US before August 2nd did not have any problems and those who came after that date were held in detention. Whether you like it or not, when you're taken in custody, they would put you in the slammer, and you may very well end up next to a mugger, a harlot, or a carjacker. That's the law for you and me as well and not just for Iranian citizens at the port of entries. One may argue that detention centers in the US are not as clean and humane, but nobody has criticized that on this issue. You may want to see a coherent policy with the Border Patrol and/or INS, but that's just the way things are. Bureaucracy at the Immigration Service has always been messed up and purposely so. That way officials can reject or accept anyone on a whim. I don't think NIAC, ACLU, or any other group would take their case as many others get rejected each and every day. Besides, lobbyists are for those who lobby them: citizens and residents of this country. Finally, I do feel bad that some folks thought by getting visas their entrance would be guaranteed, yet they were jailed. C'est la vie! I expect you voters to raise your voiceIn response to Bozorgui-Nesbat's "How to make enemies" We work like dog in this country and they treat our talented guest people like this. I am not an American citizen but I expect you voters to raise your voice to senate. Bizhan D Minus 27 years and countingIn response to Guive Mirfendereski's "Iran 6 - International Community (still) 0": Dear Guive, I am just perplexed at your enthusiasm in Iran's accomplishments (so far) in its attempt to get nuclear power (nuclear weapons- really). Is this an accomplishment for the Iranian people? You know- the average Morad, Ali and Hassan in the streets of Tehran, Esfahan and Shiraz? The answer in definitely no! The Iranian people have been loosing under the Islamic Regime for the last 27 years. While Iran is busy funding the Hezbollah (look $12,000 for every Shiite family in Lebanon)and wasting its resources on atomic energy, Iran, almost 30 years after the revolution, still does not have the capacity to refine its majority of oil production. The 4th largest oil producer in the world, the Islamic Republic you boast about so much, has to ration oil. But hey, they can split the atom now so that is all worth it? After 27 years of turban heads, Iran's major exports are: Oil that it can't refine; Carpets; Pistachios; Saffron; Donkeys (go check- Iran is the largest exporter of Donkeys and Islamic Fundamentalism. Do you blame the west for the past 27 years to? Look at a country like India (another nuclear power)- with all its problems, India's main export is brain power for the entire world right now- not donkeys and Islamic Fundamentalism at least. And then you say the following: "Iran’s appeal today is the universal theme of friendship, lending a hand, standing up against the bully and for the oppressed." Funny, one major word was missing from this sentence which proves that the whole point you are making is absolutely inaccurate. That word is "freedom". Without freedom for your own population and people you can not have the appeal of "friendship, lending a hand, standing up against the bully and for the oppressed". The Iranian people are not free people and are accordingly themselves are oppressed by this great nuclear powerhouse you boast about. They don't have the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of commerce, freedom to choose a government or even freedom of thought. The thought for the past 27 years has been: "marg bar amrica" "marg bar israel" "marg bar engelis", marg bar, marg bar marg bar.... What other civilized, advanced and humanistic societies' theme is "marg bar" at every public gathering with Khamenei, Ahmadinejad and all the other turban heads present? The only places were Iran has any real appeal today are in the streets of Damascus (because Assad thinks he can get the Golan back with Iran's help), Hizbollah infested Lebanon and Hamas controlled Gaza. The rest of the world just likes to have another excuse to attack American foreign policy - That is the only appeal of the current crisis. Under any scenario, the Iranian people will be the big losers- no matter on whether Iran succefully out maneuvers the west into obtaining nukes or not. Freedom is a state of mindIn response to Kevin's "Minus 27 years and counting": Dear Kevin, Intervention is reasonable under the circumstancesIn response to Guive Mirfendereski's "Freedom is a sense of mind": Dear Guive, Thank you for your response. I fully understand and agree with your explanation of freedom vs. free from outside intervention. I think, however, that out of all the countries in the Middle East in the past 30 years, Iran has been relatively free of foreign intervention and domination (except for American Intervention in the Iran/Iraq war which the Islamic Republic did not mind even though the Americans were supporting both sides and Iran was getting supplies from the "Zionist Regime"). There is attempted intervention in the current nuclear standoff and I believe that it is justified for many reasons (remember how Ahmadinejad saw the Mahdi when he was speaking at the U.N.). I think this intervention is reasonable under the circumstances and the west is not bullying Iran. I do picture the day that the Americans will have to make a decision on letting Iran become neuclear or attacking it. Ahmadinejad's behavior (which is really Khamenei) is pushing the Americans (Bush I should say) to attack. Even if Iran was free from foreign intervention and domination for 500 years, there would be no progress for Iran as a country and soceity because of its system - no matter how cleverly it handels its current dispute with the West. Moreover, I don't see a big difference between Iran exporting Islamic fundamentalism and exporting its influence. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are exporters of Sunni fundamentalisim; but even if Iran's intent is not to export, the effect of such influence is tantamount to exporting its brand of shiisim. Just look at the Hezbollah controled streets in Beirut. There are pictures of Khomeini and Khamenei all over the place. That is the Veyalet Fagih in Lebanon. I can just picture the posters of Khamenei in Iraq in a few years (althought the Ayatollahs in Iraq don't care much for Khomeini's theories). Regards, High time for Iranians to stop defending the westerners misdeedsIn response to Mazloom's "Holocaust victims thank Iran": I saw the anti-Iranian cartoon on Iranian.com and i think if you don't know what the hell is going on you should shut up and sit down. Wait for Israel to drop one on Iran!In response to Mazloon's cartoon, "Iran responds to nuclear offer": Mazloom, Shaban Baa MokhIn response to Shaban "Beemokh" Jafari's death: JJ Joon: It is NOT a secret that you are on the list of Mullahs' pay-role or you must do Jakeshi on the side since it is not that easy for a couple to live off of selling adds on Iranian.com. Specially, in northern California where cost of living is one of the highest. Your sort of Western facade is just a disguise or as we used to say Ghalat-Anddaz! Deep down, you are a genuine bach akhoond/bache komonist. Am I right or am I right? Now to the crux of the matter. Contrary to the common belief held by the Mordeh-khorrs and Mordeh-parasts ex-communists and Mojaheds who now-a-days regurgitate the 1953 chaos as if it was a tubreh full of Allaff, Dr. Mosadeq was very found of, God rest his soul, Mr. Shaban Jafari. In the early 50's, the treasonous communists in Iran, including the Tudeh party, the Marxist Leninist, the Trotsky's, the Kirkharist, and their bastard cousins the Mullahs, hiding behind Dr. Mosadeq and backed up by the Soviets were hell-bent to force Iran to fall under under the influence of the communist world. Certainly, the Eastern European countries were collapsing one after another under the influence of the communists. There are many examples, Hungary, Chekoslovakia, Albania, and the rest of the saps... Look at those countries today!? All of you lard-asses live in the western Europe and North America where freedom and democracy rules. YOU ARE A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES!? Thank God to the brave folks like Shaban Jafari for standing up to the terrorists and subversives like you, your predecessors, and their masters. You should tattoo Shaban's image of PaeenTaneh on your foreheads as a symbol of dignity. I recommend the females tattoo it right above the butt crack. God Bless Shaban And Dr. Mosadeq Offshoot of Shia, IslamIn response to Amil Imani's "Painful thorn": I guess Amil Imani knows quite well that Bahaism is rooted in Shia Islam. He would also know that Shia Islam is an offshoot of Islam. What I find interesting that after Mr Bush used the word "fascist", Imani decides to use the same terminology. He conveniently forgets that Mr Bush has also a divine mission to kill and destroy. You are as radical as those ignorant mullahsIn response to Amil Imani's "Painful thorn": as someone who didn't know anything about bahai, i found your article very informative and indeed opened a window for me to your religion. as a faithful you are trying to convert the ignorants! your article is full of propaganda and misinformation. you are as radical as those ignorant mullahs that we all despise! And you are a different traitor to iran! Bringing facts out into the openIn response to Amil Imani's "Painful thorn": I wish to thank Mr. Imani for yet another well thought out and succinct article. It is often frustrating to see Iranians and others in this world look the other way as Bahais who wish to exercise their right of free thought and free will are systematically persecuted by the Iranian government. The values the Bahais of Iran have stood and died for are the very ones most needed in Iran. Mr. Imani brings this fact out into the open. The real reasons for evilIn response to Amil Imani's "Painful thorn": As a Bahai I suffer with all Bahais being persecuted in the world especially in Iran, the birthplace of Bahaullah. But as a Bahai I must take exception to your one-sided description of the faith of Islam. Yes, the fundamentalists are creating a terrible face of Islam that is shown to the world and terrorism is in fact linked to Islamic fundamentalists. But at the same time, we as Bahais need to remember a few other facts: 1. Mohammed was indeed a Messenger sent by God and the Quran is a book of God. So before we as Bahais make generalizations that make it seem as if all of Islam is controlled by fundamentalists that have declared war on the rest of the world, let us be clear and specific in our facts of who is doing the persecuting not only of Bahais in Iran but other people and the real reasons this violence and evil is taking place. AwesomeIn response to Laleh Khalili's "Absence: Part one -- Part two -- Part three": Hi Ms. Khalili: Your articles are awesome. I have an Iranian business partner and best friend. I have seen her culture through her eyes to some extent, but you have let me see into her soul, because I am sure this is how she feels as a person who has lived in US for over 30 years and went through the struggles of blending into our culture and holding on to hers. I hope to visit Iran. I have learned to love the people, the food, etc. God Bless you in your search. Nita Riley "Bruce" poking fun at other IraniansIn response to Bruce Rosharavan's "Westollahis and Shahollahis": I was reading Bruce Rosharavan's long winded opinion piece when I reached, quite early on, at this statement and I stopped reading any further: Total loss for words!In response to Hasan Ghaffari's Iran photos "Nurtured by nature": I'm at a total loss for words! These pictures are incredible! Fair minded and nationalisticIn response to Bruce Rosharavan's "Westollahis and Shahollahis": Ba dorrod, Bruce, More de-Islamisation, pleaseIn response to Esmail Nooriala's series on the historical links between Iranian shiite clerics and Lebanon, "(Part 1) (Part 2) (Part 3)": Dear Mr. Nooriala, I am very fascinated by your articles in Iranian.com. However, I politically expect more de-islamisation in your articles. Beside your historical facts of showing hwo Shiism has been imposed, we need a vital removal of Islam in any form and alternative from our society. Regarding this pivotal fact, your articles will touch more effectively the reasoning facaulties of what we really need to secularise our society. Please remark this historical occasion that many Iranians are in the position to reject Islam in its all forms and alternatives. Accusatory banterIn response to Bruce Rosharavan's "Westollahis and Shahollahis": Perhaps, for this article to be taken seriously, the author should look into proper grammatical usages and the possibility of elaborating on what he knows so much about, yet conveniently enough evades in depth discussion of 'all he can tell of.' Saddam’s Iraq a ‘Paradise’?!In response to Bahar Mirhosseini's "One hundred people": Furthermore, they all have hope, which they did not have during Saddam’s reign. Yes they had a suppressed society and with that comes the illusion of stability. Is that what you want for the Iraqi or any nation: the façade of stability over a criminal oppressive regime? Is that your ‘Paradise’’? To call Saddam’s Iraq a ‘Paradise’ is mind boggling?! If that was the case, then nobody dare work to improve their lot. America would be still an agricultural society run by the Indians while millions in Europe and elsewhere remained under religious oppression, the French would still be under a monarchy that suppressed their potentials, and Iran too would be under the façade of a stable regime. How wrong you are. I really like your blunt, real toonsIn response to Hossein Hajiagha's cartoons: Dear Hossain Offensive and insulting to Canada and JewsIn response to Hossein Hajiagha's cartoons: I found Mr. Hajiagha's cartoons offensive and insulting to Canada and Jews. Moreover all his cartoons include a long essay to make his points. A good cartoon dose not need that. Look at other good cartoonist work, most of them don't even have a title. I love your web site, and appreciate your professional work. Just a reminder. Obvious errorIn response to "Save Malak Ghorbany from stoning in Iran": Dear Ms. Mazaheri, This note should by no means be read as a vindication for a cruel and degrading act of punishment, for one thing, that I have been working in the field for the same humanitarian reasons as yours for years now. But as an advocate, you are expected to be more accurate than what you are in defining adultery. Where do you get your definition of this term in Iran's criminal law? You can get support through petition only if your statements are viewed precise enough to warrant support. Adultery (and the punishment attached thereof) applies to a sexual relationship between a married man and woman, and in the case of one party being unmarried it merely applies to the party in a marital bond. Nor does stoning or any other death penalty apply to a non-married man or woman for engaging in a sexual affair or to a "a girl [who] is deemed to have committed "acts incompatible with chastity," which includes instances of rape". I do not mean to restate details of penal code '101' here, since I assume you as an advocate must have the means to master that, but just to draw your attention to an obvious error. Again, none of this diminishes the importance of your message, but erroneous information does definitely affect chances of success, unless one is into getting ahead through propaganda. Wishing you success in your advocacy, American husbands? Role models?In response to Kourosh Arianejad's "The Iranian downfall": Dear Kourosh. I don't know exactly what your experience level is when it comes to this issue, but based on my own experience, whether the iranian man that i happened to know came recently from iran or he has lived here all his life, all the major bad influences that was instilled in him was from their american counterparts. I am not using this to blame the society or american men, but i am merely telling you what i have seen. Surely i have seen my share of rather intelligent and relatively wise american men as well. I have also noticed that the abuse rate amongst american men is much beyond the rate that is seen and reported in iran. I would imagine that if all these cases were reported, we would be horrified to know that we are facing a major family crisis. Hitler translator executedIranian translator of Hitler's "Mein Kampf executed in Reza Shah's time [1930s?]: Ayaa shomaa name motarjeme ketaabe "Hitler, "Nabarde man" be FARSI raa mishenaasid? Ishaan avvalin motarjeme in ketaab bud va dar zamaane Reza Shah edaam gardid. You shot yourself in the footIn response to Ali Mogharabi 's "See you in November", "Read and read and read history", "We have to STOP this hypocrisy!", and "There is a big difference": Mogharabi . disliked my cartoon photo paintings published on Saturday. He sent me two emails questioning my views. I replied briefly, yet with some sarcasm. He got fired up and replied with two other emails, basically demanding explanation. I emailed back stating that I will read all his articles and his letters in Iranian.com, and reply comprehensively. Mogharabi writes, “ ... become educated, read and read and read about history of that region“, and informs us that “I have read my history books.” and goes into detail on how state of Israel was created. However he is absent minded or finds it irrelevant to discuss the creation of IRA (Islamic Republic of Ayatollahs). Mogharabi continues his historical narratives by describing ethnical and racial discrimination in Israel: “ ... Ethiopian Jews cannot go as high in religious rankings as white Jews”, however he forgets to mention anything about ethnical and racial tensions in Iran. The recent uprisings in Azerbaijan, that according to one account 92 people have been killed, and ethnical unrest in Khozestan and Baluchestan. He ignores how most Iranian are resentful of the fact that Palestinian blood seems to be more precious than Iranian blood. He forgets that in the city of Tehran populated with millions people there are no Sunni Mosques, and how Sufi places of worshipers in Qom have been bulldozed to the ground. Mogharabi proclaims his great love for Iran, however you have to be very careful not to be fooled by his tricks, because he is a very crafty magician. He has misdirected your attention from the main cause of the problems in Iran, which is the IRA regime, and focused your attention on Israel. We Iranian do not have any historical animosities towards the Jews or visa versa, except since the inception of IRA regime. Abbas Milani writes, “Iran was the first Moslem country in the world to establish diplomatic and economic ties with Israel.” And quoting from David Menashri, one of the most eminent Israeli scholars of modern Iran, calls the sixties and seventies “the Golden Age of Iranian Jewry when Jews enjoyed almost total cultural and religious autonomy, experienced economic progress and had no less political freedom than their Muslim counterparts.” Mogharabi claims Mullahs “are a bunch of hypocrites” but he fails to mention any of their hypocrisies, instead he says “there’s just not enough time and space for all of it.” Well isn’t that special >>> Full text 2 wrongs don't make a rightIn response to Golnaz Motarassed's "Go ahead, support the bastards": Hi Golnaz. My name is Saman :O) I read your comment about Hezbollah on Iranian.com and quickly dismissed it without given it much thought. However ... It bothered me to have walked away from your writing for a cheap cup of coffee. About 2 weeks ago I returned from the Israeli/Lebanese war and for the last 3 years visited the region several times. I symphonize with the victims of both sides and like you lived in Iran as a child. Each time I've learned something more ... and more. For cheap thrill, I was even briefly detained by Hezbollah in 2005 for filming in Dahia (Southern Beirut) where they used to have bunch of offices. As a non-religious journalist, it's actually been very easy for me to see both the similarities and differences between 2 governments/groups. You listed a bunch of questions/comments, which I will gladly answer for you. This isn't about disagreeing with you ... it's a balance of how justice is viewed from the other side. Q: The actions of which party in Lebanon has caused the current situation? A: Lebanon's been invaded 7 times by Israel (way before Hezbollah). The history of this conflict is much deeper than 5 weeks and 2 solders. After Israel's withdraw (not defeat) in 2000, there were and still are about 9000 Lebanese prisoners kept in Israeli jails without trial. Terrorist or not ... these people are solders, civilians and government officials (some kept for almost 30 years) which haven't received any trial or visited by anyone. Lebanon knocked on UN and Human Watch's door and got nothing. Also ... IDF withdrew from most of Lebanon in 2000 but Shaba farms was still kept under military occupation. Hezbollah's one and only purpose is defending Lebanese land (for as long as it's occupied by a foreign force) and it's been playing this cat and mouse game (kidnapping) for years. So have the Israelis ... using the same kind of tactics >>> Full text Intelligent and insightful on MideastIn response to Ardeshir Ommani's "True causes" Dear Ardeshir: Your article in Iranian.com is one of the most intelligent and insightful analytical pieces on the Mid-East conflict that I have ever read. Thanks for your apropos contribution. So much for Guarding our citizens' livesIn response to Abbas Aghamohammadi's "I can go on and on": Hi Abbas. I do not side with Isreal, but I do admire the resolveIn response to Kaveh L. Afrasiabi's "Anti-Dershowitz"Here we go again.It's all Isreal's fault,of course Hizbollah is blameless. Forget rockets falling daily on Isreal,suicide bombers, etc. That is not a reason for military action, right? The factions of hizbollah hiding in civilian neighborhoods to maximize casualties when Isreal responds to aggression, well that must be Isreals fault also.Mainly, the problem seems to be that those damned Zionists just will not roll over and give up, while their enemies use the UN as a shield to justify their actions {lobbing thousands of rockets aimed at civilian targets... then scream they want a cease fire?}. I do not side with Isreal, but I do admire the resolve shown in this situation. I have eyes sir, and a functioning mind. There is a lot you did not mention, that makes the truth of your argument ring with the sour note of hippocracy. Spreading Islamo-phobia must be condemned and stoppedIn response to Alex Nasiri's "Do they want to gas or burn us or send us to concentration camps?" Dear Alex, Reading your name, I wonder if you can originally be a Muslim or at least some one who has been born and brought up in an Islamic country. Dear ALEX read please Sharia, women's rights, jihad, records of human rights, etc, in Islamic countries, before being a blind proud Muslim. However in a human perspective, I agree with you that spreading any feeling of Islamo-phobia or any conspiracy against Muslim commuinities in the West must be condemned and stopped. All this has little to do with MuslimsIn response to Reza Vessal Shirazi's "How did Jews do it?" This is in response to a very nice and well-written article. The article doesn't lie. But it is too pessimistic about Muslims, compared to Jews, without taking into account all the historical facts that have contributed to the present day situation. I agree that Jews have strong traditions that have helped them throughout history. They have survived as a people while others have been assimilated, converted, absorbed or annihilated by other peoples. The reasons for this invoked in the article are accurate. But all this has little to do with the Muslims. If we look back hundreds of years ago we can see the time when Muslims were masters of the world, not Christians. Times have changed ever since and Muslims due to their inability to adapt have lagged behind. The reason that Jews have so many more Nobel recipients than Muslims is not necessarily because of their relative superior abilities to the Muslims. The comparison is a bit unfair. Why? Because we shall not compare the Jews to the Muslims. We shall compare Jews to Christians. These successful Jews are not the Jews who used to live in Muslim countries. They are the Jews who were, and are, from Christian countries. One of the main reasons Jews have become so successful is because they have been subject to so many hardships for so long in Europe. Also children, with relatively good intelligence and some opportunities for good education, who are subject to hardship, have much greater chances of making it big compared to other children who live in luxury. Jews have benefited immensely from Christian cultural and scientific progress being among them just from the beginning of the Renaissance. This has not been the case for Muslims. So, we shall compare the Jews to Christians (not Muslims), especially in Europe (because they have had quite similar circumstances, though Jews have been subject to more hardship making them better survivors, hence a bit more successful). Jewish success has been largely because of Christendom, while Muslims have failed compared to the Christians. Jewish minorities in Muslim lands have also failed along with the Muslims. This article also links Israel to the subject matter by referring to Hezbollah. Israel is a whole different story and if I am not mistaking Hezbollah just won a war against Israel. That is called a failure, not a success. Israel wanted to destroy Hezbollah, which it didn't. Hezbollah wanted to stay alive, to survive, which it did. So, the result is a clear victory for Hezbollah. This is no guide for the future though. Let's not link all the Jews to Israel and its colonial and aggressive actions. Israel is not, and will never be, a success story unless it becomes a real democratic country that respects all religions. As long as Israel is the "Jewish" state I doubt it will be much better off than another well-known religious state, "Shia" Iran. Other than that, that and that atrocity, they are pretty nice peopleIn response to Reza Vessal Shirazi's "How did Jews do it?" Although I like to read different views on Iranian.com, but this so called "advice" completely made my day. I really does make my day that every once in a while such stuff pop up on Iranian.com. "the Jews did this without beheading anyone, without a single suicide bomber, without kidnapping and murdering school children, without slaughtering Olympic athletes, without flying airplanes into skyscrapers, and without bombing the train or bus station in Spain and London." Either this is a complete sarcasm that I don't get, or the person (supposedly his name is Reza) was completely drunk! Somehow Zionist Jews don't seem to think Palestinians, Lebanese, or Arab lives count at all! So yes, if we don't count their lives, and if you circle out Mossad's kidnapping and assassinations of many Arabs and Muslims across the world, if you omit all terrorism they committed to both their neighboring countries and even European countries (e.g. remember the movie Munich?), and if you finally leave out torture, massacre, and expulsion of Palestinians and Lebanese people, oh yeah, then they are pretty nice people and innocent. One more thing, count out their many bloody civil wars and violence in their ancient history because in this so called advise, historical facts don't seem to count either! Again, it completely makes my day every time I read stuff like this on Iranian.com. Good job and keep it up =) Sad but trueIn response to Reza Vessal Shirazi's "How did Jews do it?" Great article. Nobel prize winners according to race, age, height, baldness...In response to Reza Vessal Shirazi's "How did Jews do it?" There seems to be a tremendous amount of facts in the letter Ahamdinejad wrote his friend Hezbollah. I am impressed by the Jewish acheivements. I would be interested to look up his references for all the quoted facts, especially the chrnological order of the Nobel prizes and the winners. !In response to Reza Vessal Shirazi's "How did Jews do it?" Che looos! Amir S I nominate Reza for Nobel PrizeIn response to Reza Vessal Shirazi's "How did Jews do it?" Congratulations! As a Jewish Iranian, I had lost all hope that there is anyone among my non-Jewish countrymen who knows the truth and actually dares to speak it. I congratulate Reza Vessal-Shirazi for doing just that. I nominate Reza for Nobel Prize in honesty and courage. Jewish Irani Sit like sheep and bend over?In response to Reza Vessal Shirazi's "How did Jews do it?" Reza Jan, I think you might have missed the pictures of those little lovely Israeli kids, sending their love to the Lebanese people thru the bombs that was dropped on them during the recent conflict. Or the numerous massacres that have taken place by Israeli soldiers during the last 40 or so years. I assure you, they have not survived, because they are such peaceful people. They are given all the modern cluster bombs, tanks, jet fighters and they kill at random and we criticize the other side because they attach a bomb to their body and sacrifice their life for their freedom? What sense does that make. What do you suggest sit like sheep and bend over. Sincerely
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