ISRAEL

Master Aynak

Love your questions and here are my answers:
1. Israel helped create Hamas

2. Ratio is 100 Arab to 1 Israeli

3. Not sure but I am sure about SAVAK

4. Israel has worse type of Apartheid.

5. Those countries have made slaves out of their nation for USA. Those countries are among the most corrupt nations.

6. 200

7. Jerusalem and some

8. Israel, They even called him anti smite for publishing a book called Peace or Apartheid.

9. No reason except Israel will not surrender her.

10. they are growing

11. Entire world

12. According to UK after world war Ii, world did not want to deal with Jewish problem, See British Mandate, and Lawrence of Arabia treason.

13. So far only hardliners such as Ahmadinejad have benefited form it.

14. Israel, but behind the curtains they have been selling black market arms to IRI. see Iran Iraq war.

15. Israel in the amount of 3 billion annually. Plus military aid of the latest most sophisticated weaponry.

16. more body count, plus anger of most Islamic countries and free world.

17. No it has given hard liners a better and more strong platform

-YT

p/s some smile might help during these horrible times.

Title

The title of this article itself is like a shining diamond mounted on the ring...

Sometimes few words can go so so so so far...

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down that wall..."

Thanks Holly Black Chador Clark

.... ;o)

What if Hamas did not exist?

I posted a series of questions to Israel supporters, of course their well thought response is, why don't you go and live in Ghaza?!?   This one right here (if you have the ability to read and comprehend) will tell you this is not about Hezbollah or Hamas, but simply about Israel:

//counterpunch.com/loewenstein01012009.html

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us Holly.

Holly clark

As we speak, or rather exchange messages here, there are those who are volunteering to go and to do just that from iran. and guess what they are all Exteremist mollahs. Moderates have no say in this debate. Interesting that you mention the fact that the who world is against Exterimism of all kinds, So i guess that will Put jewish Exterimists within the ranks of Terrorists too. It would be wonderful if the supporters of Israel would do as you suggest and go and live among their terrorist friends as well.

You think Sons and daughters are only killed in southern israel and by hammas rockets? what about the massacre on the other side of the border? Those children must be orphans to begin with right?I must be that a life lost in israel must have more value to you than a gazan's life.

Attack my argument not my Person

Dear ms. rustah, if that is who you are?

I am not saying that the Israeli attack is 'unexpected' just that it is disproportionate and unjust. Nor am I defending Hamas's ideology. What I am saying is that Israel is audaciously militaristic and that hurts the cause of secularism in the region especially in Iran.
I and some kind readers have answered your personal attacks in the form of accusations of having 'mood swings' in a previous thread regarding another one of my articles and really do not find it necessary to do so again. Everyone interested can read my article, follow the evolution of my thoughts and stances and judge for themselves.
My argument you have never can seem to attack with much reason or eloquence, so you just attack my person. Which even a kid with a high school education can tell you is the method of the uneducated and uncivilized. If we are judging characters here then surely we need to know more about you and who you are and what you say or said. As it is you are an enigma.
For the sake of argument let us agree that I have 'mood swings', God knows I would never claim not to, does that make my argument that Israel's audacious militarism is counter-productive to the cause of secularism in the region any less valid?
Some compatriots cannot understand that one can share their views in some areas and not others. Some cannot understand that a person can be against Islamic funadamentalism as well as Israeli militarism. Or against the idea of a Shah and the Mullahs. They see things in black and white, do not allow for nuance or a change in a person's opinon. That is why we have no united opposition to the current regime.
Some people are so blinded by their own opinion and or ideology that they can't even catch the nuance of rhetoric or metaphor. They always see everything in their own context. They fail to take statements or sentiments in context because before they start reading or listening they are looking to find fault with the hated author or speaker. That is called prejudice. It does not harm me, but it imprisons you in your opinions.
As I said to you once before, dear anonymous, or ms. rustah, I am happy that my writing and argument seems to be convincing enough to make you dig up my articles and misquote me in a desperate attempt to attack my character. I expect this kind of attack, especially when I criticize Israel and the Shah. As you see your personal attacks do not deter me or make me write under an anonymous name as you do. Educated people do not attack each others characters but arguments. In fact you can have a bad character but still produce a good piece of work, art, or a solid argument. I do not write to be popular or liked, but to share opinions when I feel like it. And make people think. I obviously sometimes fail!
happy new year ms. rustah, if that is indeed your name!

Gaza

I think all of supporters of Hamas in Iran should go to Gaza and help out their Hamas brothers. If they lose the fight oh, well but if they win the fight they should just stay there and live happily with the other terrorists. Either way it is a win /win situation for moderate Iranian people.
This new world is against Extremisms be it, Jew Extremist, Islam Extremist or Christian Extremist.
As for just a couple of people killed in Israel by Hamas rockets, I think you would feel differently if the dead one was your son or daughter.
Remember what happened to Saakashvili when he went and killed a few people in South Ossetia? Remember how everyone had their panty in a bunch about how Russia was being heavy handed in that conflict?
Well once the dust settled everyone found out what really happened and the insane Saakashvili is on his way out.

Gaza

I think all of supporters of Hamas in Iran should go to Gaza and help out their Hamas brothers. If they lose the fight oh, well but if they win the fight they should just stay there and live happily with the other terrorists. Either way it is a win /win situation for moderate Iranian people.
This new world is against Extremisms be it, Jew Extremist, Islam Extremist or Christian Extremist.
As for just a couple of people killed in Israel by Hamas rockets, I think you would feel differently if the dead one was your son or daughter.
Remember what happened to Saakashvili when he went and killed a few people in South Ossetia? Remember how everyone had their panty in a bunch about how Russia was being heavy handed in that conflict?
Well once the dust settled everyone found out what really happened and the insane Saakashvili is on his way out.

From a Hamas hater to a Hamas hailer!

Chances are that Setareh Sabety will live to regret her one time expression of desire to live in an Israel ruled by the notorious General Ariel Sharon than being suppressed as a woman in a state controlled by the Islamic fundamentalist Hamas.

(//iranian.com/SetarehSabety/2001/Septembe...)

But given Sabety's frequent mood swings (sorry Irandokht - no use pretending otherwise - we women know each other's language) I am sure she finds a way to convince herself that she is right at all times.

In the last eight years since that article appeared on this site, Sabety may have switched sides a few times but the Palestinan-Israeli position and in particular the position of Hamas toward Israel and vice versa has hardly changed. Israel is the same secular and democrtically run state that it was and Hamas is no less linient in its hardline position toward women - not to mention other serious repressive practices. Some say Hamas was democratically elected to power. But so was Hitler's Nazi party. Sabety questions the non-promising nature of the promised land! Promised land for who? She is either deceiving herself or thinks her readers are so naive. Everyone, including the Palestinians, know that the Jewish faith reagrds this land as the promised land for the Jews only! It, hey, didn't give any promise to the non-Jews anyway!

The response by Israel to Hamas's recent provocations is indeed disporportionate but this is not something unknown to Hamas or to the Palestinians in general. They know fully well of the intensity of a likely response by Israel in return for their continued mortar and rocket attacks on the Islaeli soil. There is a long and established history of such responses which renders Sabety's analogy of her children's squabbling with each other, inappropriate, if meaningless. Hamas provokes with full knowledge and in full anticipation of such severe counter attacks - not that they are justifiable but simply not unexpected. Yet Hamas continues with its provocative behavior.

The only chance for any stable peace to prevail in that region will come by if and only if Hamas and Palestinians would value the lives of their own people as much the Israelis value the lives of their own crowd.

Aynak you asked excellent questions!!

While anyone who has bothered to follow the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can respond quite easily to everyone of your questions; some prefer to protect the aggressor who has managed to play the victim card with its massive propaganda and PR machine.

thank you all

thank you, those of you who read and even more those of you who complimented my article-- also those who bothered to debate about it. nothing is more fun than starting a robust argument. happy new year. may this year be a better one for everyone.

Some question ....

Simple questions to ask to clarify any confusion:

1-Did Palestinian-Israeli conflict start by Hamas, or does it predates that by more than 30 years?  So this conflict can not be about Muslim vs Jews.  Particularly since Palestinian Christians are as much against Israeli occupation as the Musltim Palestinians.

2-How many people have the Israeli government killed in conflicts with its neighobrs and how many Israeli were killed?

3-How many military Juntas in centeral and South Amrica and in the world have Israel helped train since inception? Including training of secret police?

4-What was the nature of the relation between South Africa apartheid and Israel apartheid?

5-By forcing U.S to support other dictatorships in the region like Mobarak of Egypt and Jordan and even Saudi Arabia (since the 90s) how is Israel impacting advancement of democracy in the region?

6-How many nuclear war heads does Israel have, and are they willing to even consider signing a no-first strike treaty?

7-What percenatage of the ORIGINAL land under dispuate back in 1948, is currently under Israel control?

8-According to president Carter (the president under which the only meaningful peace treaty between Israel and Egypt was signed) which side Israel or Palestine causes the main obstruction to peace?

9-Why should Jerusalem,  a Vatican like city with Christian-Muslim and Jewish holy sites be governed by one sect? 

10-What is the status of settlements and have Israel stopped, shrank or expanded its territorial claims since 1967?

11-What does Israel consider its border?

12-Is it beneficial for Israel to see Jews in other countries live peacefully (and therefore not feel the need to go to Israel?)

13-Will people of Iran benefit from a military confrontation with Israel and possibly U.S?

14-What country is the main force behind pushing U.S and E.U for more sanactions against Islamic Regime and how does that benefit Iranian people given the disasterous nature of sanctions against Iraq and its ultimate outcome?

15-What country is the recepient of the largest U.S aid, inspite of a $23,500+ per capita GDP?

16-What impact does the bombing of University and shools have in 

promoting respect for sanctity of academic institution?

17-Does Israel military invasion of its neighbors and aerial boming and the destruction it causes now every few years help or weaken the likes of Ahmadinejad and in general, Islamic fundamentalism in the entire region?

احمدی

آقای احمدی نژاد که از مادر یهودی است و در خون او وفاداری به اسرائیل در جریان است هرگز به کشور مادریش خیانت نخواهد کرد.

Not Iran's war!

Lets get our priorities straight.Even though we have an Arab population in Iran,We are not Arabs and even though we Iranians care about every human beings we care more about Muslims,but the question is why we are so concerned about Palestinians.The answer is,it is for political gains.If this war was between India's Hindus and Muslims we were not here discussing this issue so much,but since government of Iran is trying to prove to the world that they are leader of the Muslim world we are here and As usual Iranians getting all excited and starting to follow our government like herd of sheep .

While Arab-loving IRI tries

While Arab-loving IRI tries to make this an issue for Iran and Iranians at great price to all Iranians (sanctions, etc.), it is NOT. Palestinians and Israelis have to figure out ways to solve their problems. With out interference from IRI and other Muslim brain-dead Savages (Hammas, Hizbulah, Al-Qaida , Saudi Barbaria...).

why is IRI spending at least $300 million/year on these ungrateful Palestinians instead of spending it on Iran and Iranians. Instead let's export the few idiot hizbulahi want-to-be suicide bombers (who want to go to Gaza)out of Iran and to Guantanamo.

If one wants to save lives in name of humanity, let's start with Darfur. With 400000 killed (by Muslims). it definitely has more urgency.

Seems many of you have bought into Israel's Lies!.

Israel's existance war born out of terrorist activities and it continues to this date.

Israel, next to the US, is the biggest purveyor of terror in the region and only advances its own interests. It may get the support of Israel lobby stooges in other western governments but is rapidly earning the contempt of everybody else.

Israel's primary goal is the expansion of Israel by making the occupation of the West Bank permanent and bringing the Gazans to their knees.

The core issue in this struggle is the illegality of Israel's brutal occupation. Israel goes to great lengths to avoid and suppress all mention of it and play-acts the pathetic victim. It's strategy is to frame and define the situation in Israel's own terms regardless of the truth. It uses advanced propaganda skills, and the elaborate Israel lobby network, to persuade western politicians and media to accept Israel's version of events (and even use Israel's biased language) and not question its motives.

In political PR terms it works wonderfully well. The idiot leaders of the U.S. happily spread the poison and don't seem interested in halting Israeli aggression and the vaporizing, dismembering and crushing of Gaza's population.

In human PR terms it is a disaster.

باز هم جنگ در

باز هم جنگ در فلسطين، داستان هاي تكراري

و كاسه هاي داغ تر از آش ايراني

اين روزها كه اسراييل از چهار روز پيش حمله نظامي گسترده اي را به نوار غزه و حكومت حماس آغاز كرده است، نمي شود آن را دور زد و هيچ چيز ننوشت. در باره بحران خاورميانه نوشتن دشوار است اگر بخواهي همه جانبه بنويسي و چيزي را جا نگذاري وگرنه پاي نوشته پر مي شود از اين كه: يك جانبه ديده اي، طرفداري از اين يكي يا آن يكي كرده اي و غيره. ولي به هر حال!

در ايران حكومتيان چون هميشه شروع به تظاهرات سازمان يافته كرده اند و ثبت نام شهادت طلبانه راه انداخته اند. مطبوعات حكومتي پر است از سروصدا و شعار حمايت از حماس و حمله به كشورهاي عربي، غرب؛ آمريكا و كل جهان كه چرا ساكت نشسته اند. تمام دنيا سازشكار است و تنها حكومت اسلامي ايران يار و ياور قاطع فلسطينيان است. هوچيان دوباره به سروصدا افتاده اند.

چند صد نفر كه بيشتر آنها غيرنظامي هستند، تاكنون در نوار غزه كشته شده اند. نمي دانم ادعاهاي نظاميان كه ما با دقت مي زنيم و موشك ما از ميان در عبور مي كند و درست به هدف مي خورد را باور كنيم يا نه. اگر باور كنيم، بايد نتيجه بگيريم كه اسراييل مردم غير نظامي را آگاهانه هدف قرار مي دهد و اين يعني جنايت عليه بشريت، همان گونه كه حماس و ديگر تروريست ها غير نظاميان و مردم بي گناه را در اسراييل مي كشند، با بمب يا موشك.

آنچه هست اين است كه اسراييل مدتها بود به حماس هشدار مي داد كه دست از موشك پراكني به مناطق مسكوني اسراييل بردارد. همين هفته پيش خانم “تزيپي ليوني” باز هم هشدار داد كه دست از پرتاب موشك برداريد. تا همين چهار روز پيش هيچ كجا در دنياي عرب يا ايران نديدم كه كسي از حماس بخواهد كه موشك پراكني را متوقف كند. هيچ انتقادي نبود. همه اينهايي كه اكنون سر به انتقاد برداشته اند، همگي ساكت بودند . حال، جدا از درگيري تاريخي فلسطيني ها و اسراييل، كدام آدم عاقلي انتظار دارد كه بر سر مردمان كشوري 5000 موشك شليك شود و حكومت آنجا بدون عمل بنشيند. حال اين موشك ها خسارتي بزنند يا نزنند. بنابراين محكوميت اسراييل به طور يك جانبه بدون محكوم كردن حماس چيزي نيست جز هوچي گري كه اين روزها در ميان خاور ميانه اي ها مد شده است و چه تيپيك است اين رفتار براي آنها. حماس كه مواجب گير حكومت اسلامي ايران است، تنها و تنها به منافع حزبي و بنيادگرايانه خود مي انديشد، نه به دمكراسي اعتقاد دارد و نه به منافع مردم فلسطين. گروهي آدم مرتجع، فاسد و تنگ نظر مردم غزه را گروگان گرفته اند و با وجودي كه محمود عباس اسماعيل هانيه را بركنار كرده است، حماس مدعي حكومت كامل فلسطين است و خود را نماينده تمام فلسطيني ها مي داند. اينها دمكراسي را در صورتي قبول دارند كه به نفع آنها باشد و ديگر هيچ. همه چيز را فدا كرده اند، منافع مردم فلسطين، صلح خاورميانه و زندگي مردم غيرنظامي و امنيت منطقه! حماس در تاريخ خود چيزي جز خشونت، سلاح و بمب به كار نبرده است. هيچ بهايي براي آنها زياد نبوده است، چه زندگي مردم بي گناه غيرنظامي در اسراييل، در مراكز خريد، اتوبوس، مدرسه يا كافه و ديسكوتك و چه مردم فلسطين كه مي روند و پست آنها پنهان شده و از آنها به عنوان سپر انساني سوء استفاده مي كنند.

به اسراييل ايراد مي گيرند كه چرا به غيرنظاميان حمله كرده است. تاكنون از هيچ يك از اين مدعيان منافع فلسطين نديده ام كه به حماس و يا دو سال پيش به حزب الله لبنان ايراد بگيرند كه چرا تمام پايگاه هاي خود، جاهاي نظامي و موشك اندازهاي خود را در مناطق فشرده مسكوني گذارده اند. كسي به آنها ايراد نمي گيرد كه چرا پشت مردم، در كنار مدرسه يا داخل مسجد و بيمارستان پنهان مي شوند.

اين نيز شوخي روزگار است كه حماس ساخته و پرداخته و مورد حمايت وسيع اسراييل در سالهاي 1980، اكنون به جان خودشان افتاده است. شايد خيلي ها يادشان نباشد. ولي پيش از آن كه بياييد در پاي اين نوشته كامنت بگذاريد، كمي در تاريخ حماس تحقيق كنيد. اسراييلي ها حداقل نبايد يادشان رفته باشد كه آنگاه كه تنها با زبان زور با فلسطيني ها سخن مي گفتند و از موضع قدرت برخورد مي كردند، براي شكستن قدرت سازمان آزادي بخش فلسطين و وحدت يكپارچه گروه هاي فلسطيني كه در اين سازمان بودند، به حمايت از گرايش هاي تندروي مخالف با سازمان آزادي بخش فلسطين (PLO) پرداختند با اين هدف كه اتحاد فلسطيني ها را بشكنند. سازمان حماس كه در سال 1978 همزمان با انتفاضه راه افتاده بود، مورد حمايت مستقيم و غير مستقيم مالي و تسليحاتي اسراييل قرار گرفت. اكنون بايد به دولت اسراييل در شكستن اتحاد فلسطيني ها تبريك گفت. تنها يك مشكل كوچك وجود دارد و آن اين است كه متاسفانه جبهه كمي جا به جا شده است. از دستتان در رفت! حالا تشريف بياوريد و اين وضع را جمع بفرماييد.

همانگونه نيز در گذشته به آمريكا، پاكستان و عربستان سعودي تبريك گفتيم كه در ايجاد آدمخواران طالبان در برابر اتحاد شوروي بسيار موفق بودند. در آنجا نيز همان مشكل كوچك به وجود آمد كه حالا طالبان به جان آمريكا، عربستان سعودي و پاكستان افتاده اند.

نه حماس و نه حاميان لبناني، سوري يا ايراني آنها مي فهمند كه مواضع تندروانه آنها نه تنها هيچ كمكي به حل بحران خاورميانه نمي كند، بلكه بر آن مي افزايد. موشك پراكني احمقانه تنها بهانه به دست تندروها و بنيادگرايان اسراييلي چون حزب شاس و ديگر مرتجعان مذهبي مي دهد كه در آنجا نيز خرد را قرباني كنند و خود را به قدرت برسانند. چه عجيب است كه فلسطيني ها درس نمي گيرند و نمي فهمند كه همين كارهايشان در گذشته باعث شد كه جنايتكاري چون آريل شارون، قصاب صبرا و شتيلا كه خود را يك “نازي” مي خواند و اكنون به يك گياه تبديل شده است، به حكومت اسراييل برسد. به راستي فلسطيني ها كسي چون او را در حكومت اسراييل لازم دارند؟

چند ماه پيش كه در عربستان سعودي بودم، به يكي از مهندسان فلسطيني مقيم اردن كه با حرارت از فلسطين سخن مي راند كه ما تا آخرين نفس براي آزادي فلسطين خواهيم جنگيد، گفتم: ببين! كسي نمي گويد نجنگيد! ولي شصت سال است داريد از اين حرفها مي زنيد و شصت سال است كه حتي يك سانتيمتر نتوانسته ايد به دست بياوريد و كلي هم باخته ايد. فكر نمي كني كه پس از شصت سال بهتر است كمي انتقادي فكر كنيد كه شايد در جايي داريد اشتباه مي كنيد؟ شايد روشتان اشتباه است. آخر مگر مي شود كه كسي شصت سال درجا بزند و باز هم حرفش همانها باشد كه هميشه مي گفت و قدرت يادگيري و انتقاد از خود و تحليل نداشته باشد؟ هنوز داريد همان شعارهاي شصت سال پيش را مي دهيد. نه پيشرفت علمي كرده ايد و نه پيشرفت اقتصادي و نه عقلتان رشد كرده است. تنها دستاوردتان توليد بچه است. 300 هزار نفري كه شصت سال پيش رانده شده بودند، اكنون شده اند 3،5 ميليون نفر و همين براي هر راه حل درست و معقولي مشكل درست مي كند كه چگونه مي شود به 3،5 ميليون نفر وارث آن 300 هزار نفر اجازه بازگشت داد. در اسراييل هم عربها گرم توليد مثل هستند و تا امروز %23 جمعيت اسراييل را تشكيل مي دهند. در مقابل اسراييل فسقلي محاصره شده در ميان شما عربها به تمام پيشرفت هاي ممكن دست يافته است و حقارت و بدبختي تان را هر روز به رختان مي كشد. همين شما فلسطيني ها هزار هزار هر روز لب مرز با اسراييل ايستاده ايد و مي خواهيد براي كار به آنجا برويد. چند نفر از مردم فلسطين محل كارشان در اسراييل است و هر روز از مرز رد مي شوند و هر گاه كه مرز را اسراييل به دليلي مي بندد مي شنويم كه هزار هزار نتوانسته اند سر كار خود حاضر شوند؟

چيزي زيادي نگفت. شايد از روي ادب چيزي نگفت و اين كه شايد من رييسش بودم. كاري به او ندارم كه انسان خوب و وارسته اي است. ولي در رفتار جمعي فلسطيني ها نقش خرد و انديشه خيلي كمرنگ است. آنها در سياست جمعي خود نمي فهمند كه با اين موشك هاي قراضه درپيتي تنها به جنگ طلبان اسراييلي بهانه مي دهند كه صداي طرفداران صلح در اسراييل را خاموش سازند و اين كارها را كه شاهد هستيم، بكنند. “اوري آونري” صدايش به گوش كسي نرسد و هم پالكي هاي شارون اكنون روي دور باشند.

ايراني ها را هم داشته باشيد: شنيدم كه هوچي ها فشار مي آورند كه فتوا دهند و ما به اسراييل مي ريزيم. خواندم كه احمد توكلي گفته است كه من داوطلب جنگ هستم و مي روم. چه جالب! بفرماييد آقاي توكلي خالي بند هوچي! بفرماييد به جبهه تا ديگران هم بيايند. گمان كنم اگر همه هوچي هاي ايراني هر كدام يك سطل آب بريزند، اسراييل را آب خواهد برد. يادتان هست اين جمله مشهور با سطل آب كه در رابطه با اعراب گفته مي شد؟ اين جمله تنها يك اشكال دارد: با يك “اگر” شروع مي شود، آن هم از نوع ايرانيش!

قبلا هم نوشته ام كه رسانه اي دولتي ايران بر اساس دكترين رسمي تمام اخبار پيرامون فلسطين و اسراييل را تحريف مي كنند تا بتوانند احساسات مردم را در جهت سياست خود هدايت كنند. در جاي ديگري هم نوشته بودم كه جاي تاسف دارد كه از رسانه هاي جمهوري اسلامي از “عمليات شهادت طلبانه” يك “مبارز فلسطيني” بشنوي كه خود را در اسراييل منفجر كرده است و “دو صهيونيست” را كشته و به درك واصل كرده است و همان روز در رسانه هاي آزاد در اروپا بخواني كه انفجار در يك مركز خريد رخ داده بوده است و دو صهيونيست به درك واصل شده، زن جوان 25 ساله اي به همراه دختر 3-4 ساله اش بوده اند. همين گونه است تقريبا تمام اخباري كه رسانه هاي حكومتي جمهوري اسلامي به مردم ايران ارايه مي دهند و ما در جاهاي ديگر چيز ديگري مي خوانيم و مي بينيم.

اگر بخواهم ديدگاه خود را پيرامون بحران خاورميانه در يك جمله خلاصه كنم، بايد بگويم كه در اين درگيري ديگر سال هاست كه مقصر كامل و بي گناه كامل وجود ندارد. هيچ راهي به جز پايان درگيري هاي مسلحانه و مذاكره وجود ندارد. اسراييل اكنون بيش از گذشته فهميده است كه ديگر نمي شود با زبان زور و سركوب و بمب و كشتار حقوق مردم فلسطين را پايمال كرد. اسراييل نيز شصت سال است با كاربرد هر چيز ممكن، قدرت نظامي، پيشرفت اقتصادي و تكنولوژيك درجه يك هيچ چيز به دست نياورده است. اگر فلسطيني ها با كارهاي خود در اين شصت سال آزگار حتي يك سانتيمتر نيز گيرشان نيامده، اسراييلي ها نيز در اين شصت سال آزگار حتي يك ثانيه امنيت نداشته اند. خرد حكم مي كند كه آنها نيز به اين بيانديشند كه هيچ راهي جز سازش و مذاكره ندارند.

سخن تمام، در اين بحران كنوني حماس مقصر اصلي اين جنگ افروزي است كه ابعادش را كسي نمي تواند حدس بزند و اميدوارم كه هر چه زودتر خاتمه يابد و گسترش نيابد.

ديدن اينها هم بد نيست:

- مديران وزارت ارشاد صبح امروز دوشنبه در پايان نشست مشترك معاونت برنامه ريزي و توسعه و مديران كل استاني اين وزارتخانه با صدور بيانيه‌اي براي «جانفشاني و شهادت در راه مقدس دفاع از مردم مظلوم غزه» اعلام آمادگي كردند. اينجا

- فرم سه گزينه اي طومار آمادگي رزمي، مالي و تبليغي براي جنگ با رژيم صهيونيستي از طريق سايت جامعه روحانيت مبارز براي لبيك به حكم مقام معظم رهبري از تاريخ 9/10/87 به مدت يك هفته فعال شد. اينجا

اين فرم اين شكلي است:

در پي پيام مقام معظم رهبري و فاجعه غزه براي جنگ با رژيم صهيونيستي اعلام آمادگي كنيد:

- آمادگي تبليغي دارم

- آمادگي رزمي دارم

- آمادگي مالي دارم

ايلنا:‌دادستاني و قضات دادسراي تهران (سعيد مرتضوي) طي فراخواني از حقوقدانان و قضات آزاده و عدالت‌‏خواه جهان به منظور تلاش در تشكيل دادگاه كيفري بين المللي براي تعقيب و محاكمه سران جنايتكار اسرائيل دعوت كردند.

البته اين تنها يك همه پرسي است و ثبت نام نيست پاسخ دادن به آن هيچگونه عواقب و مسئوليتي و ريسكي ندارد. البته گزينه چهارم يادشان رفته:

- هيچ گونه آمادگي ندارم.

با اين وجود ببينيم كي مي رود! آقاي توكلي بفرماييد! شما اول!

منبع : وبلاگ آقا اجازه

Setareh khanom , lets assume that an arab nation attacks Iran!

Wow , they did , I mean Iraq. Who do you think Palestinians support? Wow they did support Iraq!!!
Well sorry all the facts are there but you do not see it.

Setareh jan

you are truly a setareh. great lucid article.

Peace!

Giving war a chance!

On th contrary, I believe that Israel has kept up in the propaganda front pretty well. The two Israeli victims of rocket attacks are humanised (showing their wedding photos, prom videos...) by the pro-zionist media, while the hundreds of murdered Gazan are referred to as mere statistics!

Moreover, Israeli leaders and spin-masters are constantly popping up on American and Western media, shilling for their pending war! And they have the allegiance of their benefactor, the big brother U.S. to give war a chance! Looks like 2006 Beirut all over again!

Anonymous^2

as usual, you are full of it dude, go seek some professional help about your hatred of humanity......

while you are at it TRY and learn some manors dude.

Cheers and good luck in your endeavor
-YT

Which Several Million?

The number of supporters is much much less than your estimate.

After the first bomb is dropped EXACTLY ON THE LEGITIMATE TARGET, you will see how people will react positively.

God bless Israel for

taking a stance against the barbaric terrorists.

The only way to cleanse that part of the world from the cancer (i.e., the Mullahs and Islamic militancy) is through an all-out war against the Islamic Republic of Iran, Syria and their illegitimate born-out-of-the-wedlock proteges the Hezbollah and Hammas. And in the process if several million supporters of the Mullahs got wasted, I would say hallelujah!

God bless America
God bless Israel

Audacious Partisanship

Hamas is a terrorist organization. It is worth neither our moral support nor our petrodollars.

Its religious nature is the biggest enemy of the Palestinian people. Whatever service Hamas has rendered to those people is utterly discriminatory, and solely based on religious identity.

It is a carbon copy of The Iranian regime which WE hate.
YOU, however, might feel some obligations to defend IRI.
In that case, I don't have any sympathy for you.

Blood money

With the same token, as you stated:

What if Israel did not have support of super powers, i.e. US and UK? What if Israel did not get HANDOUT from US on count of 3 billion per year in cash, plus all the logistical, and surveillance date?

Would she be this arrogant and blood thirsty???

-YT

p/s You handle suites your inhumane views noicely....

What if these bozos had no money ...

If Nasrallah, Haniyeh, Mashaal and other protégés of Iranian mullahs did not have all the billions of dollars and euros and shekels at their diposal to support their social programs, would their impoverished needy people still support them as much?! could these thugs invest so much in terrorism? I certainly doubt that!

Thank God the oil price is hitting an all time low.

Walid Phares

Dear Walid,

There are more credible and objective news organization that you might consider watching and quoting from. With all due respect, Rupert Murdoch and his gang of racist hatemonger so called news cast are a total shame and disgrace for entire journalistic community.

Of course this represents my humble opinion along with countless other objective observes and news organizations.

Regards
-YT

Lady Maryam Hojjat

Lady Maryam.

It is often an easy way to have someone to blame the atrocities on. In past 60 years it has been Arab, and since fall of Soviet Union and communism Muslims as a whole have become new scapegoat and new evil.

I, by no means, condone terrorism and killings of civilians, however it is all fair to take a look at both sides, namely Israeli and Hamas during past few months.

I have posted this comment in another thread, but allow me to be repetitious for once. It is an accepted fact that violence breaths violence. With this in mind lets examine Israeli action in regard to human rights and human dignity issues of 1.5 million Gaza residents;

Israel has no consideration in their actions, actions that were deliberately calculated by the Israeli Government to create this violence before the bombing and during the cease fire.

1. Closing the borders
2. Not allowing medical supplies through
3. Not allowing food through
4. Not allowing humanitarian aid through
5. Cutting off electricity
6. Cutting off water supplies
7. Allowed illegal Jewish settlers to assault innocent Palestinians

I am certain you have this question asked in several places, but allow me to ask you:

If someone were to lock you in your HOME, cut-off the water and electricity, stop you from seeking medical help, and starve you and your family, WHAT WOULD YOU DO????

Would you just lay there and hope the intruder become nice and kind and let you free? Hence is the story of 1.5 million residents of Gaza. Israel will only be satisfied if every and all nations in the region to become her slaves, do as she wishes and talk as she allows?????

I do reserve the right for security for everyone, Palestine as well as Israel. But in past 60 years of war, Israel's LUST for land and BLOOD of innocent people has not been satisfied. None of her savage and brutal attacks on other nations have provided her with security that she wants. History has been witness to her atrocities.

Regards
-YT

Shia Lebanese

great post there. totally agree with you, and the big difference is precisely with hezbollah that has acted in the very opposite manner with dignity, self-belief and dedication. no wonder hassan nasrallah is such a highly respected figure right across the Arab world and among all religious sects.

Peace!

March to Baghdad

I love whoever is writing under "Lebanese Shia" pseudonym. In a few lines s/he has pulled the rug from under the feet of all keyboard warriors on the Iranian.com.

Here is the plan: We heroic Iranians first march to Baghdad and liberate our fellow Iraqi's from the cruel yanks, then link up with our equally heroic Syrian brothers and on to Jerusalem. I hope you all have 3 weeks of vacation so we can get organized and save the World.

Thanks my Lebanese friend, whoever you are.