EXTREMISM

stop threateniung people (to: Programmer Craig)

PC says: "If you gave your boss the same crap you are giving me..."
PC, stop this nonsense. You made some more comments out of pure ignorance. You then tried to cover up your ignorance by saying that since you haven't met anybody who calls himself Zionist, they don't exist ...
Mr. PC Geraldo Rivera the Fox News TV reporter said explicitly in front of millions of people he is a Zionist.
My view on Zionists has been like my view about any other "ism", that there are some Zionists like those in charge of AIPAC (American Israeli Public Action Committee) who are extremists and those who are not.
Mr. Programmed retard, I am bashing you not because of your ideas but because of your aggressive extremist personality and threatening tone, and I'll continue to do so. 777

Anonymous7

I just sent you some links that explain about Zionism and Zionists.

I don't need to read your links to know the way you use teh word "zionist" is bigotted. If you called em that at work I'd file a grievance against you for violating my rights to religious freedom as a Christian. If I was Jewish, I'd file the grievance against you for racism as well. And then you'd be "counseled", at best. If you gave your boss the same crap you are giving me about how it's not a discriminatory term, you'd be fired I'm sure. You are clearly using it in a derogatory manner, and the term does have both religious and racial meanings. Muslims seem to think "zionist" is an acceptable replacement word for "Jew" or "Jew Loving Christian". It isn't.

I don't have any more to say to you on this oen. I honestly hope that you get a job in the US and start slinging that word around, so you can see what happens for yourself. 

Programer Craig, you are ...

PC, not only you are ignorant but also you are very arrogant. I just sent you some links that explain about Zionism and Zionists. I did not express any opinion about Zionism or Zionists one way or the other. Two of the links are from wikipedia and one is from a pro Israeli site.
Someone has brainwashed your tiny brain so badly that you think every Iranian is a bigot. For your information Mr. a88hole, my adviser in my master program was from Israel and I never cared whether he was a Zionist or not....

To .:.

if you are not
important, but have a reasonably good job, you will lose your job
without knowing how, or why

I now agree with you that it's very possible for an Iranian to get fired for bigotry and defamation and not understand why. I'm certain that if and when it happens to Anonymous7, he'll think his termination was completely unfair. It's nice to ahve people like him around, to provide examples.

Anonymous7

This is getting old. Clicking on your link doesn't qualify as "meeting" somebody. Stop spamming me with throwaway replies. Either address what I said, or go interact with somebody else.

to Programmer Craig

PC says: "I've never met anyone who called themselves a 'Zionist'."

then meet one:

//www.zionismontheweb.org/why_i_am_a_Zionist....

Anonymous7

Providing a couple wiki link and a definition is irrelevant. I've never met anyone who called themselves a "Zionist". Not once. And I've been around for a while. And the bigotry is not in the word, it's in the usage.

Re: Programmer Craig

PC says: "I've never in my whole life heard somebody call themselevs a zionist. That's an offensive and racially/religiously motivated term for people that Muslims don't like."
Then see these sites:
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Zionist_figur...

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

To .:.

If you are an important person, they will kill you

Examples?

if you are not
important, but have a reasonably good job, you will lose your job
without knowing how, or why

You will lose your job, yes. And you will know why. It's called bigotry and defamation. I've never in my whole life heard somebody call themselevs a zionist. That's an offensive and racially/religiously motivated term for people that Muslims don't like. No company will tolerate blatant bigotry from some of their employees against their other employees. They'd get sued if they did, for violating the civil rights of tehir employees.

Top it off by accusing these "zionists" of being terrorists, and you'll be lucky if you don't get sued yourself.

and if you are unimportant and poor, you
will be stepped on to become just NOBODY.

Stepped on by who? The man? :O

Bigotry is quite common amongst the poor and the chronically unemployed, even here. That's one of the reasons they are poor and chronically unemployed. They are unemployable, except for menial labor.

Alborzi

About your second statement that Christianity is the biggest religion
in the world. First off do not flatter yourself

Has somebody been lying to you?

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world...

Christians 33.32% (of which Roman Catholics 16.99%, Protestants 5.78%,
Orthodox 3.53%, Anglicans 1.25%), Muslims 21.01%, Hindus 13.26%,
Buddhists 5.84%, Sikhs 0.35%, Jews 0.23%, Baha'is 0.12%, other
religions 11.78%, non-religious 11.77%, atheists 2.32% (2007 est.)

but besides we all know
that its not the size that matters its what you do with it.

And what does Iran do with it? I suppose it's good for rapists to have little dicks, in a way.

You can get away calling Islamists Terrorist, but ....

Mr Rashidian,
Please hear it from someone who has been affected by it (me)and likes your writings:
You can get away in America or Europe calling moslems anything you wish (most notably you will be praised if you call them terrorists, especially if you have a middle-eastern background).
However, don't be so sure about calling Zionists terrorists. YOU WILL NOT GET AWAY WITH IT. If you are an important person, they will kill you, if you are not important, but have a reasonably good job, you will lose your job without knowing how, or why, and if you are unimportant and poor, you will be stepped on to become just NOBODY. Just watch out and hear from an iranian compartiot who has seen and been affected by it. Freedom of speech in the west is only free forsaying somethings, not everything!!!!

Regards,
H

Ahmadinejad is an idiot

Its interesting how everyone uses Ahmanijad as an excuse. First off he is nobody, he does not control army and foreign department, he is just a nobody, in fact my father who is retired from Farhang may have more pull than Ahmadinejad. He is being admonished and those in power keep their distance from him precisely because of his statements. I think west realizes this but he is a good excuse.

About your second statement that Christianity is the biggest religion in the world. First off do not flatter yourself but besides we all know that its not the size that matters its what you do with it.
Have a good day OO.

IRI is your run of the mill dictatorship

Dear JR.

I would
like to share a small story….

I
remember about 10 years ago I had a discussion on Middle East conflict with an American coworker
of mine. I ended the discussion with joke. I concluded that if the holy sites
to be destroyed, it probably would help end the conflict. (It was joke of
course). What I heard in response was fascinating. He replied that would probably
create a common enemy in which case will bring Jews and Muslims closer together
to rally around common cause i.e. a single enemy.

I think
with this article you may actually help to bring people closer together and
this is no small feat!

I however
disagree with your generalization.  

1-State
of Israel since inception has actively
engaged in ethnic cleansing and has a vested interest in continues conflict in
the region

For the
past 2 decades, state of Israel has been getting ready for a war
with Iran. It has clearly articulated its
plans and polices towards Iran. To put this in prospective, I
would like to refer the readers to a book "Open Secrets: Israeli Foreign
and Nuclear Policies " by Dr. Israel Shahak published a decade ago.

It is still very relevant (From Chapter 4, "Israel versus Iran", 24
February 1993):

"Since the spring of 1992 public opinion in

"... Provoking

"... First,

"..since the early 1950s already, is that in the

2- As it
has become abundantly evident in recent years, psychological warfare is an
integral part of the war machinery. The Palestinians are systematically traumatized.
This “technology” Israel exports in return to US to use in
countries such as Iraq.

Part of
the psychological warfare is this type of generalization; Broad brush strokes labeling
Muslims as “Islamofascism” is part of the psychological warfare to dehumanize
all Muslims (including secular Muslims) and put everyone on the offensive.

3- Your
analysis is partially flawed. i.e. you are speaking half truth

I believe
the IRI with respect to its foreign policy is more or less on the mark. I will
not go in the details it is all in the public. The net result is Iran is secure today.

Finally, in
your analysis you equate IRI with terrorists. This is a wrong characterization
and assessment. The things you attribute to Islam are not really part of
Iranian culture (as you know) and are definitely not part of Islamic world in
general … All the way from Africa … Algeria to Egypt and Lebanon … Moslems are
very tolerant and are not so closed minded except for the few fringe groups
such as Al-Qaeda which happens to be an American creation.

In the
west especially in US they never specify or have never discussed how big is
"Al-Qaeda".

USA spends billions of dollars
supposedly on “the war on terror” yet there has not been any single comprehensive
analysis of "Al-Qaeda".  It is
the ever elusive “ISLAMIST”. !

In my
opinion "Al-Qaeda" is no more than 5000 people world wide ... surly
"Al-Qaeda" doses not represent Islam...

4-
Finally, USA and Israel are best fit to be labeled as terrorists
for crimes committed against humanity in Iraq and Palestine.

As far as IRI, it is your run of
the mill dictatorship though it may be of an Islamic flavor.

If you
are truly committed to making difference, than, start something that you can
rally people around. Consider the “Hijab” for instance. Start an internet campaign
to support women’s right in Iran to have a choice when it comes to
Hijab. May be JJ can also help. Let us create an easy to replicate symbol and
start distributing it all over the net… if we do good job it may jump out of
cyber space into real world ….

How about
it ?

To sz the Zionist

Same old rhetoric, one answer to all questions: ”Anti- Semitism”, “Protocols of the elders of Zion” etc, etc…
Could you tell me what are those so called “settlers ”for, if not for expansion of a land stilling power? What they are doing in West Bank which is only 25% of Palestine? Beside what “negotiate the return of Golan Heights” prove after decades of so called “negotiating”and expansion? What Zionists were doing in Lebanon for 20 years before being kicked out?

Alborzi

First off you are basing your opinion on Christian scriptures, thats
limited the problem is that there are other religions and those who
consider all of this garbage.

Well, why don't they say it's garbage then? Instead of Ahmadinejad saying Judgment Day is coming, and he wants to hurry it along?

Another thing, Christianity is the world's largest religion. And it's the predominant religion in the world's most powerful countries. So don't be too quick to discount it, eh?

In fact rapture has been made very
popular just recently. That guy David Koresh was waiting for it and it never happened.

Yeah, theer have been a lot of Doomsday Cults over the centuries. But I'm pretty sure the Rapture became "popular" abbout 1900 years ago, which is really not that recent unless you want to use a cosmic time scale.

Well some times the wars are not
proportional but more than likely it is, for example Cyrus the king of
Iran, never conducted genocide like in Iraq and he was in Mesopotamia.

Eh... more Iraqis died in the Iran/Iraq war than have died as a result for the US invasion, so watch that "genocide" term, buddy. But lets assume that there has been a genocide in Iraq, for the sake of argument - who committed it? I've never seen ANYONE make a serious argument that the US is directly responsible for more than a small fraction of the deatsh in Iraq the last 5 years. Have you?

You are also mistaken

First off you are basing your opinion on Christian scriptures, thats limited the problem is that there are other religions and those who consider all of this garbage. In fact rapture has been made very popular just recently. That guy David Koresh was
waiting for it and it never happened. Well some times the wars are not proportional but more than likely it is, for example Cyrus the king of Iran, never conducted genocide like in Iraq and he was in Mesopotamia.

Alborzi, 007, Stop More Wars

Alborzi: We live in a new age.

Nah. Nobody in the history of man has ever believed in "proportional" responses, during wars. Enemies get crushed. Sometimes, they get exterminated. That's always been the way, and there is nothing "new" about it at all.

Stop more wars... : Programmer Craig is showing his true colors, finally. Armaggedon, leading to Rapture.

I actually didn't express an opinion. That's what is written in Christian scripture. No more, no less. I thought Iranians knew more about Christian scripture than Christians do? Not so much? Hmmmm.

007,

The Valley of Megiddo is where RUSSIA and IRAN will form an alliance
with CHINA to attack ISRAEL in the Last Days.

Could be. Could be something else entirely. There's no way to know. It may even be a false prophecy.

We are getting very close
to it. As the Anti-Christ is concerned, it could be Tony Blair,
Sarkozy, Brown, Bush, Ahmadinejad, etc. but he will make peace with the
JEWS and rebuilt the temple next to Dome of the Rock and that takes
place in the 1st half of the Tribulation. The Anti-Christ will be
charming, the most attractive world leader ever. Mr. Henry Kissinger
mentioned NEW WORLD ORDER last year on a TV interview. that is really
scarey!!!

I don't really interpret it that way. The roles of Christ, the Beast (anti-Christ) and the False Prophet (his followers) are clear. Many other references are much less clear. I want to know where the "Mahdi" fits in. There is no mention of Christ having a "partner" in Christian scripture.

I agree these are scary times. We had the first "666" calendar date in 100 years on June 6, 2006. "Babylon" plays a central role, and in fact Armageddon is supposed to begin when the punishment of God is poured into the Euphrates river. The scariest thing to me, though, is that Islamic scripture has a similar but almost opposite version of the End of Days, and at least some of the leaders in Iran seem to think it's coming. Whether the prophecy is true or not, when theer are so many people who seem to want to MAKE IT TRUE, that's some bad stuff coming our way.

mama is right

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REPLY : ZIONIST, ISLAMIST both no good

Just from word`s meaning one should be - so I think - be aware of these two.
1. The Zionism`dogma says: Only th beings who are borned from jewish parents are human beings. the others are not any human beings. In fact God has made them just morphologically as human beings in order they should be abel to serve jews.
2. Islamist is a human being who abuses the Islam for unislamic purüposes. For example once there was a peanut merchant named carter, for americans he was the president of the united states of america. In his time was the greate satan stil a little bit greate. That man was confessed the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC iof Irsn is not isöamic. In this way he abused the Islam for non islamic purposes. he meant because of not being islamic iran should be again governed by an american lakai. afull unislamic purpose. Such examples can be founs countless. every body knowes a t least one story where poeple of zero importance claim iran is not islamic. Of course there are other islamists who do actions with no logical reason ion the name and as they mean for islam. terror-acts count to this category. These actions do not change anything. make a lot harm to human beings and are - as far as I see - unislamic.
RESULT: After these MY considerations i think the authore is all together right: Zionists and zionism are just as islamists and islamism to be avoided. what is happening in the palestine since 60 years is an act of zionism. occupying the land of other poeple, of the real owners, is by no means jewish but zionistic. The honorable rabiners in the states have emphasized it to the respectable President of the Islamic Republic of Iran as he was in the United States. Better the occupying system gets resolved and the ones who want to stay further on do it as an palestinian. other go better back were they or thier ancestores were scared off, chased away. Greeting

Mama, boro kashketo besaab,

Mama, boro kashketo besaab, with your racist position (per your writing), or, acting as an Iranian, trying to create enmity and hatred with a racist and anti-Jewish and Anti-Arab FRONT.

Kashk

Israeli and Palestinian issue is all kashk as far as Iran is concerned. They are both the same semitic garbage. The Middle East region is Iran’s. It has always been. The chicken shits in Israel are standing in the way and should be removed. They either accept it and live, like they have done for 5000 years or they don’t accept it and they don’t live.
That is the bottom line.

ARMAGEDDON

Craig

The Valley of Megiddo is where RUSSIA and IRAN will form an alliance with CHINA to attack ISRAEL in the Last Days. We are getting very close to it. As the Anti-Christ is concerned, it could be Tony Blair, Sarkozy, Brown, Bush, Ahmadinejad, etc. but he will make peace with the JEWS and rebuilt the temple next to Dome of the Rock and that takes place in the 1st half of the Tribulation. The Anti-Christ will be charming, the most attractive world leader ever. Mr. Henry Kissinger mentioned NEW WORLD ORDER last year on a TV interview. that is really scarey!!!

"Maybe all is as it should

"Maybe all is as it should be".

Programmer Craig is showing his true colors, finally. Armaggedon, leading to Rapture.
And of course, he's on the side of good and righteousness (in his own mind). And if the time is not right for Rapture, he and people like him will impose it on Jesus that now IS the right time.

Or maybe it's all a cover for his wish for more wars and more of them baaad people (this time, the Iranian people) getting killed so he will feel OK, as long as there's no danger for him in it. Such a nice misleading cover, good against baaaad.

Puja is right again!

I agree with Puja again,.Mr Rashidian I like the ending of your article and your proposed solution:
""What concerns Israel and Palestine, a durably peaceful co-existence of all peoples in the region can be guaranteed when only the democrats and seculars are the official peace-makers of both sides. Zionism and Islamism cannot narrow down their differences.

For the peole of Iran, as a part of the international community, a UN mandated two-states option is the best and fairest solution because it is consequently a defeat of fundamentalist ideologies from any calibre in this region.""

Religion and state should be separate,to be able to come to a peacefull resolution.

Regards,
Tahirih

You are making a big mistake

We live in a new age. In this age a preemptive
nuclear war is OK. Its also ok to have different values, lets stay Bin Laden killed 3000 Americans, America will kill a million and totally destroy the nation. Its kind of Einstein's theory, you are using Newtonian logic and thats no good.

Blah Blah Blah

It never fails. The weekly chest beatings about Israel, Zionism, Plastinians, Arabs.... Just shut the fuck up all of you I am just sick and tired of assholes analyzing this subject.

The Mahdi

This is what everyone wants, right? Relax. Maybe all is as it should be. Just hope that your mullahs are actually working for the God they say they are, and not the other guy.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon

Armageddon (Greek αρμαγεδδων; [armageddôn] also spelled as Har-Magedon in some modern English translations; a.k.a Mount of Megiddo), is the final climactic battle (or Campaign) between God (also known as YHWH, El, or Elohim) and the forces of righteousness, and Satan (whose name means 'adversary'), also known as the Devil. Satan will operate through the person known as the "Beast" or the Antichrist, written about in the Book of Revelation in the Christian New Testament. More generally, it can also refer to an apocalyptic catastrophe.

The word Armageddon in Scripture is known only from a single verse in the Greek New Testament[1], where it is said to be Hebrew, but it is thought to represent the Hebrew words Har Megido (הר מגידו), meaning "Hill of Megiddo" or "Valley of Megiddo". Megiddo was the location of many decisive battles in ancient times (see Battle of Megiddo).

Megiddo (Hebrew: מגידו‎) is a hill in Israel near the modern settlement of Megiddo, known for theological, historical and geographical reasons.

//www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revela...

"And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river
Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the
kings of the east might be prepared. And I saw three unclean spirits
like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of
the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the
spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of
the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that
great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he
that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they
see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the
Hebrew tongue Armageddon."

IRAN/ISRAEL/USA (SECRET ALLIANCE)

Mr. Rashidian

There is a book out called IRAN/ISRAEL/US and their secret deals since 9/11:

Who sent Al-Qaeda as refugees into IRAN? CIA
Where is Bin Laden's son? IRAN since 9/11
Why is he there? To cut a deal by using him and MOJAHEDIN as bargain chips between two nations
Where is Masoud Rajavi? He got kicked out of Camp Ashraf lastweek and Mojahedin's time is running out.
Did IRAN AIR land in JFK Airport? Absolutely!!!

Israel and Palestine is not our concern

I agree with Redwine on this issue, that we have our own problems and rather than focusing on others we should concentrate and solve our own things.

To RedWine:

This was the best execration I've heard for a long time. It was not vulgar yet it showed your disgust with the whole hypocrisy of politics in the Middle East. Keep on cursing. I'll be looking forward to reading more of the them, soon I hope.