Blind trap

Taking IRI's anti-Israeli life support system away

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Blind trap
by Farhad Kashani
07-Jan-2009
 

The recent Israeli attack on Ghaza has shown the world that the Middle Eastern peace process is not on the right track. What’s important to note is that neither Israel nor Palestine is gaining from this conflict. Palestinians are losing lives, territory and security and Israelis are losing lives and security. So who’s winning? In whose interest is it for this conflict to continue?

By looking at the events around and post the Iranian revolution in 1979, one can easily conclude that the biggest beneficiary of this conflict is the Islamic regime in Iran. The regime has made the conflict a vital survival tool, a life support system if you will. Without it, the IRI regime will be no longer. And by the way, since most Iranians want the regime to “die”, we need to take this life support system away, we need not to fall into the regime’s trap of blind anti Israeli propaganda. Even though we denounce killing of innocent people in Palestine and Israel, we should be careful not to fall into IRI’s trap.

Here are some of the ways the IRI regime is the biggest beneficiary of this conflict:

- The regime needs to divert attention on itself to Israel. As the world is realizing that IRI is the center of chaos in the region and world, IRI wants to show the world that it is in fact Israel whose causing all this, neglecting the fact that by refusing to recognize Israel’s right to exist, the IRI and its puppet groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, have essentially made any peace between Israel and them impossible.

- By making Israel look bad, it will look good. One can notice that IRI’s propaganda machine bashes Israel using the same language that the World bashes it, namely lack of respect of Human Rights and engagement in supporting terrorism. IRI also bashes democracy and liberalism for failing to “provide support for Ghaza”, thus, making its own ideological brand, which is fundamentalism, look good and effective.

- By engaging Israel in proxy wars, Israel and Arabs both, especially moderates Arabs, will lose resources and world public opinion support. In the meantime, IRI keeps building its resources.

- IRI wants to come out as the sole defender of Islamic causes in order for it to dominate the Islamic world and dominate Islamic public opinion. That’s neglecting the fact that IRI has not fired a single bullet towards Israel, but it is screaming on top of its lunges for other Islamic nations to attack Israel. Even bashing countries like Egypt who has gone into wars with Israel 3 times. By engaging in a blind irrational hatred towards Israel, the IRI will come to mind first when one thinks about governments or groups who are standing in the way of Israel. That makes IRI appear to be “tough” on Israel.

- Making the U.S look bad. IRI has promoted this idea that Israel does not take a single action without U.S’ approval, neglecting the fact that U.S supports Palestinian groups and other Middle Eastern countries who have been into war with Israel and who have no relations with Israel, including S Arabia. And also neglecting the fact that U.S has brokered fair and just peace treaties a few times between Israeli and Arabs in Camp David and Oslo, and constantly calls on Israel to halt settlements and establish two nation solutions.

There are many more reasons, those are just a few.

In conclusion, since we Iranians understand that IRI is connected to the “life support system of Anti Israelism”, we need to take that system away from it, so we can see a free Iran, a democratic Iran, a peaceful Iran and a rejuvenated Iran. We also want to see a free Palestine, a secure Israel and a stable Middle East. With the IRI in power, none of those are possible.

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Zion

Neither one, my dear Anonym7

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I am here only to find out what daily advice you have for me on how to behave. That is all.


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one more question Zion?

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

Zion says: "...The way I remember, you are the one who had lost it..."

Zion_jAn, if you remember DW Duke once told you "....I believe you have a lot to offer if you focused on the issues instead upon trying to win every argument at any cost."

Zion_jAn, are you here to win or you are here to make us better understand Israelis, and Zionists in particular?


Mammad

Mr. Varjavand

by Mammad on

Thank you.

I teach at a university in California. I teach engineering, but also write political articles that I publish in print or post on other sites, mostly Huffington Post and Antiwar.

One can have have any opinion about the IRI, Palestinians, Israel, and so on. But FK invents history and brzenly lies as he goes, just to release his hatred. Just to give you an example, in addition to what I discussed in the previous posts:

He claims that before the IRI the problem between the Palestinians and Israel was political. Let's just say how credible that is:

1. A few months after the 1967 occupation, PLO fighters - called the fedaaeen at that time - started infiltrating the occupied territories from Jordan to attack Israel. Those attacks which continued for over two years, ratcheted up the tension between Palestinians and Jordan, culminating in the Black September of 1970 whereby King Hussein's army killed thousands of Palestinians, because he did not want Palestinians to use Jordan as the lunching pad, and was afraid to lose his power eventually in the process. It is, of course, well-documented that King Hussein was on the CIA payroll.

2. In the same year, 1970, Egypt and Syria attacked Israel to recover the occupied territories.

3. In 1972 PLO fighters attacked Israelis in the Munich Olympic and killed a dozen of them.

4. That led to a series of assasinations by Mosad, well-documented in the recent movie with Eric Bama.

5. PLO fighters hijacked planes and carried out many attacks during the early to mid 1976s against Israel. One famous one was the Entabe episode, the Israeli "hero" of which is Israel's present Defence Minister Ehud Barack, who is slaughtering innocent Palestinians to win elections next month, and he is supposedly on the left side of the political spectrum in Israel!

6. Yasser Arafat visited the UN General Assembly in 1974, carrying an olive and a gun, saying that either give us back our lands or we will fight you.

7. Israel invaded Lebanon in 1978 to crush the PLO whose fighters were attacking Israel all the time.

All of these, and many many more, by George Habash's Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and Amhed Jebrail's Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command, all happened BEFORE the IRI, Hamas, and Hezbollah were around.

But, FK keeps repeating the same nonsense brazen lies, revisions of the history - and ridiculous revisions at that - just to release his hatred and venom, and has appointed himself as the spokesman for the Iranian people, thanking Zionist propagandists on this site for "standing with the Iranian people."

They say that everything is finite. Even our universe, as vast as it is, is finite, but the nerves that people like FK have in lieing is unlimited. 

 

Mammad


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Diversity is good Zion!

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

Zion_jAn, yes, I BRAG about diversity among us Iranians, we Iranians have Persian, Jewish, Arab, Turkish, Kurdish ancestors, ..., underlining that makes us stronger and so far has eliminated the need for having concrete walls between us (Israel's Wall in the West Bank: //www.vtjp.org/background/Separation_Wall_Rep...).


Zion

My dear Anonym7

by Zion on

Believe me, when it comes to the likes of you, I engage in no favoritism. There is no top or bottom of the list.
So what's up? The way I remember, you are the one who had lost it when I made it clear that any Jewish ancestry is really not that much of a big deal, since an average Iranian most probably has at least Jew or two somewhere down the line in the family tree. [BTW, I don't know man, if it is such a big deal for you, you can always convert and get it over with. :-) Then your ancestry might help make one of your ultra-orthodox neighbors stare at you with a little less suspicion if you let him know of it. Does that make you feel any better?]


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Zion, Zion!

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

Zion_jAn says: "That`s why I love this website."

Zion khanoom, we and specially I, love you too, although you hate us!
BTW, am I still on top of your $hit list (right below Q)?


Zion

:-)

by Zion on

``Thank you for your kindness. You have always been kind to me. I am grateful.``

lol. That`s why I love this website. You won`t find stuff like this anywhere else!


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Two-state/one-state solutions...

by Ajam (not verified) on

I find the above article full of flaws. For starters, the title implies that in order to get rid of IRI, there's a life support system that needs to be taken away. Yet in the conclusion, there is no recourse as to how and by what means this should materialize. Moreover, the so called conclusion confuses the cause and effect as it's been propagated in the body of the "essay":

"In conclusion, since we Iranians understand that IRI is connected to the “life support system of Anti Israelism”, we need to take that system away from it, so we can see a free Iran, a democratic Iran, a peaceful Iran and a rejuvenated Iran. We also want to see a free Palestine, a secure Israel and a stable Middle East. With the IRI in power, none of those are possible."

However, my main point is not to discuss the structural flaws of the article, but to underscore a paradoxical impasse created by Israel with regard to any future solution for the Israeli/Palistinian conflict. Indeed the elusive "peace process" has never existed and never will. Yes, there have been mutual peace treaties between Israel and its neighboring states, Egypt and Jordan. Yet, that does not qualify as a peace process -- for a process ensues its own trend of developments -- but rather tactical moves by Israel to isolate palistinians and concentrate on its main objestives, especially since there were little strategic incentives to hold onto the Sinai desert for a long haul! Same goes for the Gaza strip, as demonstrated by Sharron, Gaza was not worth the occupational costs.

However, West bank is a totally different story, and is indeed the zionist prize possession. Considering the fertile soil and water reservoirs it provides for the 300 thousand Jewish settlers, it has never been on the table for any negotiation in a serious manner. Of course in a futile attempt Izzac Rabin considered a withdrawal as per conditions of Oslo accords, but we all know what happened to him and Oslo (not to mention that at no period of time did Israel stop expanding settlements in WB and Gaza)! Hence ascension of BB Natanyahu to power and materilization of the Clear Break policy (a perle/Wofowitz project).

At the moment, having expanded the settlements far and deep into the WB, and in effect partitioning the remainder of Plistinian lands by Jewish-only roads (HWYs vital to Jewish settler activities that are closed to Palistinians), Isarel has painted itself into a corner from which there’s no easy escape. In other words, should Israel decide to withdraw from the WB settlements as per a two-state solution's requirement, it would be mission impossible to evacuate the 300 thousand militant settlers who BTW enjoy the unconditional support of the majority of Israeli soldiers. And should Israel opt for a one-state solution, as Natanyahu advocates, there's no way but a South African style apartheid system to keep the Jewish minority in charge of the majority!


varjavand

Dear Mammad;

by varjavand on

 

Dear Mammad;

 

Even though, I do not know you personally, judging you by the quality of your comments, I have no doubt that you are a well educated person and most likely an academician. Being an educator myself, I know how important it is to analyze an issue from different angles; sound reasoning, sensibility and practicality, in the interest of fairness.  With all due respect for Mr. FK, he and the companies come to this site with a vengeance, a dogmatic agenda and their one-dimensional analyses. They waste no chance of accusing anyone who does not agree with them as IRI agent. It seems that they seek the destruction of our country and its innocent people, hoping that someday the US, or Isreal, will attack Iran and reinstall the old regime. They use every occasion to blame everything on IRI deservingly or not. Even if a donkey drops a peshgal in Kashan, so to speak, no doubt IRI is behind it in their opinion.

 

Rhetoric and slogans do not resolve anything if they are not backed by substance.

 

Although, I have outmost respect for everyone who comes to this site, including Mr. FK, but I cannot sit in the sideline and tolerate the eccentric ideas.

Varjavand

 

 


Mammad

FK

by Mammad on

Most of your mumbo jumbo is not worth reading, let alone responding to. It is a waste of time.

As Shirin Ebadi always says, in Iran we have freedom of expression. What we do not have is freedom AFTER the expression. Your bastion of democracy Egypt is in a similar state. Egypt has been a destination for "extraordinary renditions" of the CIA, i.e., where people who are kidnapped by the CIA are sent to be tortured, so that the CIA and the US can deny that they do it. Just do a simple google search on this to learn more, you Mr. "out of box thinker."

Regarding how low politics has gotten. For once I agree with you. When delusional fantasy landers like you become political analysts, that says something about the level of politics. You got your answer now?

Regarding organizing a symposium: I suppose since you have never been invited to one - despite your tireless efforts fighting for Iran - you do not know how this works. So, let me tell you. When someone is invited to a symposium to speak, he/she first checks who is the inviter, who are the other speakers, and where the symposium is held. These are the three criteria for the credibility of a symposium according to which an invited person decides whether he/she wants to also participate or not. This should not need any more explanation.

I now understand why cosmologists say that a being cannot leave one universe and go to another parallel universe. It is simply impossible for you to leave your everything-is-IRI-fault fantasy universe, and join ours.

Mammad


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Bainwashing!

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

Kashani says: "No one, except few brainwashed people like you and Anomymous7 and your friend Mr. Baer,..."

Kashani_jAn, I have had views similar to those of CIA's Robert Baer for quite sometime and before I watched his video recently. His views are based on following ME/Iran politics for 25 years, and mine are based on following and participating in Iran/ME politics for some 30 years. That is WHY I FIND YOUR EXTREMIST VIEWS AGAINST U.S, Israeli, and Iranian INTERESTS.
As for brainwashing, Kashani_jAn, I must confess I have tried to cleans my brain from hateful politics, and I recommend you do the same, you really need to do that!


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Mammad: Why do you think

by quench (not verified) on

Mammad: Why do you think you're any different than R.M.G.? At least he is not an IRI sympathizer and not a disciple of an Islamist Marxists such as Shariati.

Why do you think "you" as an IRI sympathizer ,and sometimes promoter, have any more credibility than neocons or christian right-wing nutcases in the US.

You and your ilk are Iranian right-winger religiious nuts; no difference between you and other extremists of all other stripes.


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FK

by hahaha (not verified) on

Wow, Mammad holds Symposiums?? Symposium on what??? Shariati and Islamic Marxism. Does he disclose his ideology to the audience?


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Naravad Mikh e Ahanin Dar Sang

by Behrooz (not verified) on

It is really frustrating
What part of “NONE OF YOUR BUSSINESS” don’t you people understand?
This is a 3000 years old conflict between two cousins who enjoy fighting and killing each other .For God sake READ SOME HISTORY
Why do we Iranian always tend to shoot our big mouth without knowing the first think about the facts on the ground or there history behind these issues. Why at all should we even stick our nose where it does not belong and none of people in either side wants our interference anyway.

If we are a champion of human right at first we should clean our own house.

It looks stupid and ridicules to the rest of the world that we are crying about the right of Palestinians while our own people are being suppressed prosecuted and killed every single day. For the past thirty years the IRI has been committing genocide and cleansing in Kurdistan, Baloochestaan and many other provinces it Iran. Our Kurd and Azari hamvatans are not yet allowed to teach their own language in their local schools or have a local TV in their own bountiful Azari or Kurdish language. Our university students are being prosecuted, tortured and murdered in the dungeons of our own so called “government” every single day and for noting but demanding their minimum basic human rights. 60 percent of Iranians are living under poverty line by the IRI’s own assessment. The record of drug addiction is now one in four among our youth while people with close connection to the government freely import narcotics in tones per day and even distribute it inside IRI prisons. And yet we allow ourselves to ignore all these fact close to home and stick our nose where it doesn’t belong and become the champion of the matter about which we can not know squat.

So the question is why. Why divert our attention from something within our power and more important to our people and their future into an issue about which we have no information, can not do anything about and none of our business anyway. Could the reason be that because we Iranians are all talk and no action? Could it be because we can not bother to get off our back side to do something about the issues close home and so we choose to pay lip service and become keyboard champions to matters on which we have a perfect excuse that we ate not able to do anything about?

The fact of the matter is that these "hollow champions" and Dun Kioshets of Palestinian cause do not give a monkey about anyone or any thing but themselves and that is why they sit on their hand while IRI is destroying Iran and killing our people. They are only attempting to ease their own guilty conscience by pretending to be the champion of other peoples cause while hiding behind their keyboards.

Now the funny thing is that even the Palestinians do not take them seriously and in fact despise them more than they despise Israelis.

For example this morning as the patient in Gaza hospitals were suffering from their injuries they were not accepting the much needed Iranian donated blood because they believe that we are unclean (najes) however the same people were gladly accepting Israeli donated blood.

Of course opportunists like khaled Mashal might be happy to accept IRI’s stolen money and spend it all on their palaces and harems in Syria, but when it comes to action or even a little support, these people would not hesitate even for a moment to line up with thieves life Imaret’s government to forge a false name for our Persian Gulf or conspire to steal our three Iranian islands

Now you pseudo supporters of Palestinian cause might choose to hide your heads in your back side and spew the same rubbish again and again, but for the rest of us Iran and our national interests comes first, last and in between.

The fact of the matter is that Israel is the only country in the Middle East who honours the name of Persian Gulf and recognises our rightful ownership of the three Islands of Abu Moosa, Tonbe bozorg and Tonbe Koochak and there is a “50 years old tie of friendship between our two people, while all Arabs have brought to us was death destruction and their inferior culture which have been forced to us for the last 1400 years.

For those who want to know more please read the following books

Tavalodi Digar

Doe Gharn Sokoot

Pas az 1400 Saal

And 23 saal

If you want just send an email on broshanravan@gmail.com and I will email the pdf version of a few of these books that I have free of charge

Some people might have been blinded by Mullah’s propaganda and their religious hatred but the rest of us recognize a friend when we see one.


Farhad Kashani

Mammad,    Your

by Farhad Kashani on

Mammad,

  

Your argument and reasoning is so off that I don’t even know where to start. Your problem is that your cliché oriented. You make very little, if any, attempts to think outside the box. You also take what others say at face value and have already made your mind that anything remotely connected to the U.S should be demonized. What that means is that you have let your leftist ideology cloud your judgment about political realities.

 

Also, when you’re arguing, you go back to point 1 although you already got an answer. So I can’t help you there.

 

I’m just gonna make the following points, because if I wanna response to each of your points, I gotta copy and post my original reply to you, or refer you to the article I posted hoping this time you can have a better understanding of my point, even though you really sound extremely helpless in understanding and seeing the truth.

 

-         No one, except few brainwashed people like you and Anomymous7 and your friend Mr. Baer, deny the fact that the Israeli Arab conflict has come a long way since 1948. Camp David and Oslo and Jordan peace treaty  were HUGE steps in bringing this conflict closer to a solution. And by the way, that’s what makes us moderates and makes people like you extremists. People that look for civilized methods of resolving conflict versus you people who ignite clash of civilizations and animosity and war. Your beloved Khomeini has said many times that it is impossible for IRI to make peace with the U.S, and it is impossible for IRI to recognize Israel. Do you have any idea what that means? That means he has prematurely killed any possibility of reconciliation and normalization of relations between Iran and those countries. And puppet groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah, who follow the fascist Velayat Faghih establishment, follow that mentality with no questions asked.

-         …and that’s what makes you extremists. You support that idea, and that notion. When Hitler was in power, no one wanted to annihilate Germany or call its people “infidels” like Israel, as a country, is being called from hundreds of thousands of mosques and newspapers and TV stations and schools across Iran and spots in the Middle East with IRI’s cultural influence, such as South Lebanon and Ghaza. Before 1979, Israeli Arab conflict was a “political” conflict, after 1979 with the establishment of your beloved “Rowhaniat” regime in Iran, it turned into a devastating “cultural, religious and civilization” clash between Islam and the West. Khomeini did that and Khamenei and Nasrallah and Hamas are following his footsteps. That’s why there WILL NEVER BE PEACE until that mentality is around. And this mentality will be around as long the IRI regime is around. WAKE UP.

-         Mammad, I guess you “hold symposiums”. And that’s just shows how low politics have become when we have people like “you” making political analysis! But if you do, you must have some knowledge (!!), and if you do, you must heard of Ayman Noor and the Kefaya movement in Egypt. That movement criticizes Mubarak openly and viciously in Egypt. They have newspapers and media. How on earth does someone like you who hosts symposiums and analyzes politics (!!) can possibly, compare that to what people say in Iran in Taxis, where the regime can’t hear them!! I mean how low are you going with this support you’re giving to the IRI regime. How low? How low can someone possibly go? Just try to answer at least this one question.

      


Mammad

Quench Gerecht's nonsense

by Mammad on

Who wrote that article? Reuel Marc Geretcht. Who is he? A pathetic liar that proved even too much for the American Enterprize Institute, and was kicked out recently, along with other loonies such as Michael Ledeen, and Joshua - bomb-Iran- Muravshik, from the AEI. Even the AEI could not take his nonsense any more. 

To see how much Gerecht understands Iran and knows about it, I quote a line from his article that he published 12 years ago in the Foreign Affairs under the pseudo-name Edward Shirley: "Iranian youth revolted against the Shah for sex." Case closed. 

Mammad


Mammad

FK

by Mammad on

Thanks for making me laugh hard after a long day at work. I laughed very hard when I saw that, at the beginning of your "response" to me, you thanked Zion for "standing with the people of Iran." Let's see, this is a conflict between Israel and Hamas, but the Zionist propagandist is "standing with the people of IRAN?" The thought of a Zionist propagandist "standing with the people of Iran" is beyond absurd! Any way!

Regarding the so-called "peace process:" You blindly believe the Israel lobby propaganda in the U.S., and that of the far right (of which you are a "distinguished" member). In a true peace process, Israel would return to the pre-1967 war borders, return the Golan Heights to its rightful sovereign, Syria, return the Shaba Farm to Lebanon, allow the establishment of a viable Palestinian state and, in return, the Arab states cease their hostility towards Israel. This is a true peace process. Not only has that not happened, but also what Israel has been doing is making the two-state solution increasingly impossible.

As I have said many times, the impossibility of the two-state solution is not even in the interest of Israeli people. Because if that possibility disappears, Israel will have only two choices:

(a) Annex the West Bank (Israel has already annexed East Jerusalem), and impose on even harsher terms the apartheid-like system on the West Bank. The Likud/far-right/military-industrial establishment of Israel want this, but we know what happened to the original apartheid system. To prevent a similar fate, the Israel far right has spoken about "transferring" Palestinians to Jordan and other places - which means only one thing, ethnic cleansing. 

(b) Annex the WB and make the larger country democratic. Then, the Jewish state of Israel will be overwhelmed by the Palestinians (populationwise), and will disappear.

So long as Israel does not recognize that there is NO military solution to its conflict with the Palestinians, things will not get any better. It is total nonsense to claim that the conflict exists, or drags on, because of the IRI. Israel occupied the Palestinian lands in 1967 (if not 1948, if not 1936), long before the IRI was around, and the occupation is at the heart of the problem. Israel gave up Sinai because it served no good purpose for Israel: It has no significant water resources, it is not fertile, and it does not serve the legitimate security concerns of Israel.

You also do not get it regarding the "Moderate" Arab States, and just believe the mirage that the US has created regarding the "moderates." They are called "moderate" only by the US, because their regimes carry the water for the US. Their populations are totally against the US. They are angry and against the US because of the US blind support for Israel, invasion of Iraq, and the support that the US gives to their corrupt regimes. Even Karen Hughes, Bush's Assistant Secretary of State for public diplomacy acknowledged that after touring the Middle East, but  delusional people like you still repeat the same nonsense.

If bad mouthing Hosny Mubarak is a sign of democracy, then Iran is the most democratic country!! You sit in a taxi, stand in a line for something, have lunch somewhere, have your electricity cutoff in the middle of the summer .... and all you hear is profanity, anger, despair, etc., against the power elite in Iran. But, that does not make Iran a democracy. Even the Bush administration does not claim that Egypt is a democracy, but delusional people like you do! 

I also laughed when you say that if one is in Egypt, it is as if he/she is in Euriope! Thanks. I feel relaxed now after laughing so hard. You make things up as you go which, although baseless, make me laugh. 

The rest of your mumbo jumbo is not worth commenting on.

Mammad


Mammad

Anonym7

by Mammad on

Salaam:

Thank you for your kindness. You have always been kind to me. I am grateful.

Last October I helped organized a symposium on Iran in which five people spoke, one of whom was Baer. The other four were Ali Shakeri, Reza Aslan, Michael Levi (from Council on Foreign Relations), and myself. Ian Masters of the KPFK Radio was the MC and the main organizer.

I thought that Baer was knowledgeable. He spoke in very realistic terms, knew the region very well (as you know, he was a CIA agent working on the Middle East for over two decades), and was very realistic about the limits of the US power, and weaknesses and strengths of the IRI. He knew what he was talking about, and he seemed a very cold (professionally), calculating man.

We are organizing another symposium, for hopefully at the end of February, after the Obama administration is fully in place, and its Iran policy becomes clear.

Mammad


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3. They both kill civilians indiscriminately.

4. They enter other countries illegally and blow up the people.

5. They both believe they are "The God's Chosen People".

6. They terrorize people by their actions.

7. They wouldn't survive without other countries' financial backing.

8. They don't care about public opinion or the United Nations.

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good doogh! (to Mammad)

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

Well said Mammad, incidentally I was going to ask your opinion about Robert Bear's interview one of these days. As you are aware S. Hersh also said similar things sometime ago. Mr. FK's articles are like a very lousy chelo kabab that comes with good doogh (your comments).


Darius Kadivar

FYI/Iran takes advantage of Gaza crisis (bbc)

by Darius Kadivar on

Not really Responsible Comments from Mr. Larijani ... No Better than France's Racist Jean Marie LE PEN ...

Iran takes advantage of Gaza crisis by Jon Leyne 

Excerpt: 

Iran's official media paint a picture of a country in ferment, outraged by the Israeli attack on Gaza. The parliamentary speaker, Ali Larijani, said Israel's actions were worse than the Nazis during World War II. The Iranian government does not want to see any deal in Gaza that restricts Iran's ability to send weapons and money to Hamas.

The influential Mr Larijani was in the Syrian capital Damascus on Wednesday, for talks with Iran's allies in Hamas, Hezbollah and the Syrian government.


Farhad Kashani

Ali, zion, Samsam, behrooz,

by Farhad Kashani on

Ali, zion, Samsam, behrooz, Ali Sarshar, quench and others who stand with the people of Iran, thanks for your comments.

 

 

Mammad,  

I am been realistic.

  

Middle East Peace Process: Absolutely. Lets take a look. Israel made peace with Egypt in 1979 in Camp David (brokered by U.S) where Egypt got its land back. Jordan and Israel made peace (brokered by the U.S) which was fair to both. Israel and Arafat signed the Oslo pact (brokered by the U.S) that has been the first step towards Palestinian state. King Abdullah peace proposal of 2002 states full recognition and ties with Israel if Israel agrees to the just terms. Israel is negotiating with Syria under Turkish mediation. I don’t know about you, but that sounds like a peace process to me, where Israelis and Arabs are realizing the need for peace, and that’s why slowly but surely they are getting together to sit down and resolve these issues.  And that’s why the recent Israeli and Hamas actions are result of falling into the IRI trap of killing the peace process. They shouldnt’ve got into this recent conflict cause none of them are gonna benefit, and it was a mistake on both Hamas and Israel sides to got o war. So your claim that there is no peace process sounds astonishingly out of touch to me.

 

Moderate Arabs: Absolutely. Let me ask you: how did the S Arabian government can be blamed for those 15 hijackers? Did the S Arabian government support them? NO! Yes, 15 were from S Arabia and those guys were inspired by the “Shahadat” (martyrdom) culture in the name of Islam. A culture that your beloved Khomeini started spreading in the Islamic world like a deadly virus. And for your info: the other 4 WERE NOT from the other GCC countries. Mohammad Atta was Egyptian, Ziad Jarrah was Lebanese and the other 2 as far as I remember were either Syrians or Lebanese. Possibly one of them was from Kuwait. Also, in case you didn’t know, Taliban and Pakistan are not Arabic countries. Furthermore, if we take your rationale of things, then Iranian people must be the most fundamentalist people in the world since we have the most fundamentalist government in the world. So none of the things you said here makes any sense. Yes they are moderates. How can you even compare Egypt to IRI? Have you been to Egypt? You wouldn’t know if you’re in ME or Europe. There are all kinds of people bashing Husni Mubarak everyday. People burn his picture everyday in the streets of Cairo in front of the police and media, without getting harassed. People enjoy so much personal freedoms in Egypt that Iranians under this regime can only dream of. So stop saying nonsense.

 

IRI: where did I state that IRI “started” the Israeli Arab conflict! That’s one of the few conflicts in today’s world that IRI is not responsible for starting! But guess what..IRI is doing everything possible in its power, including sacrificing my country, for there not to be peace between Israel and Arabs, and the reasons again are mentioned in the article. Furthermore, unlike you, I’m not naïve to thing that IRI is made of bunch of “stupid mullahs”. IRI is very very clever and made up of evil people who are masters in causing chaos in the world. Your other IRI supporting buddy wants me to give them credit for that, and I will! I will give them credit for masterminding so many conflicts. For starting a devastating clash of civilization between Islam and the West. For being in power for 30 years although the vast majority of Iranians despise them. Hitler did lot of things that we should give him credit for also, including, making a superpower out of a country in ruins. But should we support or like him for that? NO!

 

CIA: yeah I’m gonna believe some idiot apologist who has no idea what he’s talking about and not believe my own eyes and ears of what I’ve seen and experienced and read and listened, and from other true Iranians who have seen so much and are not afraid of talking about them.  Yeah I should believe the CIA who, thanks to Clinton, has been downgraded to a pity of an organization that can’t get the simplest of facts right. Here’s something for you: Hillary Clinton has said, and I listened to her when she said that, that U.S has no idea how IRI operates. We have no info about Iran. And now you’re telling me I should listen to some “dushbag”.!!! Sure!

 

One last thing, yes, CIA doesn’t know what the hell its doing when it comes to mafia like regimes such as IRI. I don’t think anyone denies that anymore. And the main reason for that is America, as a country, and government, and intelligence service, has forgotten about the human element. They have forgotten about the public opinion war. About how people are able to brainwash other people. They look at everything in numbers. If they spend 1% of what they’re spending in Iraq, for countering IRIs death culture and Martyrdom culture, IRI will be vanished in a heart beat. Unless they change that, they can never understand IRI. So stop being naïve and keep your ideology aside for a second and acknowledge the truth.

    


Anonymous Observer

Mammad - I agree

by Anonymous Observer on

There has really not been a meaningful Mideast peace process after Carter, and even that process benefited Egypt only, and if anything, contributed to the worsening of the situation in Gaza to the point that we see today.

And as far as Hamas is concerned, well of course the IRI supports it, but the IRI did not create it. As you mentioned in one of your previous comments, Hamas is an offshoot of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and, in its current form, a  creature of the occupation, corruption of Fattah, lack of leadership, and desparation of Gazans. 

The rest of your comments are well put as well.  In sum, one cannot deflect from the carnage that is taking place today in Gaza against a defenseless civilian population by throwing in a red herring about who supports Hamas. That issue could have been dealt with before this collective punishment was imposed on innocent civilians.

 


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The speaker of the Iranian

by quench (not verified) on

The speaker of the Iranian regime assembly meets with Hamas thug in Syria. It's clear to every one that Hamas is an agent of the Iranian clerical establishment. The root cause of all problems in the middle-east is the current Iranian regime.

Although often little appreciated in the West, revolutionary Iran's ecumenical quest has remained a constant in its approach to Sunni Muslims. The anti-Shiite rhetoric of many Sunni fundamentalist groups has rarely been reciprocated by Iran's ruling elite. Since the death in 1989 of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the charismatic, quintessentially Shiite leader of the Islamic revolution, Iran's ruling mullahs have tried assiduously to downplay the sectarian content in their militant message.

Khomeini's successor, Ali Khamenei, has consistently married his virulent anti-American rhetoric (Khomeini's "Great Satan" has become Khamenei's "Satan Incarnate") with a global appeal to faithful Muslims to join the battle against the U.S. and its allies. Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, the most politically adept of the revolution's founding clerics, loved to sponsor militant Sunni-Shiite gatherings when he was speaker of parliament and later as president (1989-1997). He and Mr. Khamenei, who have worked hand-in-hand on national-security issues and have unquestionably authorized every major terrorist operation since the death of Khomeini in 1989, have always been the ultimate pragmatists, even reaching out to Arab Sunni radicals with a strong anti-Shiite bent...
Where once Ayatollah Khomeini believed in the revolutionary potential of soft power (Iran's example was supposed to topple the pro-American autocrats throughout the Middle East), Khomeini's children are firm believers in hard power, covert action, duplicity and persistence. With Gaza and Egypt conceivably within Tehran's grasp, the clerical regime will be patient and try to keep Gaza boiling.

It is entirely possible that Tehran could overplay its hand among the Palestinians as it overplayed its hand among Iraqi Shiites, turning sympathetic Muslims into deeply suspicious, nationalistic patriots. The Israeli army could deconstruct Hamas's leadership sufficiently that Gaza will remain a fundamentalist mess that inspires more pity than the white-hot heat that comes when jihadists beat infidels in battle. But with a nuclear-armed Iran just around the corner, the mullahs will do their best to inspire.

Ultimately, it's doubtful that Tehran will find President-elect Barack Obama's offer of more diplomacy, or the threat of more European sanctions, to be compelling. The price of oil may be low, but the mullahs have seen worse economic times. In 30 years, they have not seen a better constellation of forces. And as the Shiite prayer goes, perhaps this time round the Sunnis, too, inshallah (God willing), will see the light.

//online.wsj.com/article/SB123128812156759281...


smhb

smhb

by smhb on

I think we need to clearly understand Mr. Kashani and his ilk for who and what they really are:

Zionist agents who have no shame advocating the interests of foreign powers and the intervention of imperial powers and their lackeys in the domestic affairs of Iran.

However, he and his kind will never see that day again. Its OVER!!

 


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Calm down supporters of palstinians

by NY GAL (not verified) on

I totally agree with "Observer" post.
I wish you hard-die supporters of palstinians had a little of sympathy for political prisoners and victims of IRI in iran. How come none of you ever care to post anything against the inhuman treatment of civil right activists and women in Iran?.
Iranians have suffered in the hands of mullas for 30 years. enough of palstine and israel war. Hamas is a terrorist group who are cousines of members of islamic revoltionary army (sepahe pasdaran). I myself have no any sympathy for hamas members and their supporters among palestinians. I wish I could kill one by one of them.


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Israel is the cause of radicalism in ME

by sabad (not verified) on

Israel apartheid and racist policy in ME, has severed the cycle of violence and hate, and has greatly increased anti-western and anti-american sentiments in Arab and Muslim world. It is also very useful enemy of IRI as it has unified arab and Iranians against a common enemy. It's been admitted by many american academics and strategists that Israel has been the greatest burden for US after the cold war. The sooner the world deals with the apartheid regime as it did with south africa, the sooner peace will prevail in ME.


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Deepak Chopra' letter to

by sickofiri (not verified) on

Deepak Chopra' letter to Obama:

""You have been elected by the first anti-war constituency since 1952, when Dwight D. Eisenhower was elected after promising to end the Korean War. But ending a war isn't the same as bringing peace. America has been on a war footing since the day after Pearl Harbor, 67 years ago. We spend more on our military than the next 16 countries combined. If you have a vision of change that goes to the heart of this country's deep problems, ending our dependence on war is far more important than ending our dependency on foreign oil.

The most immediate changes are economic. Unless it can make as much money as war, peace doesn't stand a chance. Since aerospace and military technologies remain the United States' most destructive export, fostering wars around the world, what steps can we take to reverse that trend and build a peace-based economy?

1. Scale out arms dealing and make it illegal by the year 2020.

2. Write into every defense contract a requirement for a peacetime project.

3. Subsidize conversion of military companies to peaceful uses with tax incentives and direct funding.

4. Convert military bases to housing for the poor.

5. Phase out all foreign military bases.

6. Require military personnel to devote part of their time to rebuilding infrastructure.

7. Call a moratorium on future weapons technologies.

8. Reduce armaments like destroyers and submarines that have no use against terrorism and were intended to defend against a superpower enemy that no longer exists.

9. Fully fund social services and take the balance out of the defense and homeland security budgets.

//www.alternet.org/story/116640/


Mammad

FK: Myth vs reality

by Mammad on

You live in a fantasy land. 

"Middle East peace process?" What peace process? This is one of the greatest myths propagated in the US by Israel's lobby. The only process that has existed is one in which the Palestinians right to exist is denied, their land is occupied and annexed, their water resources are stolen, and they live, according to Foreign Minister of Vatican (not Iran) "live in a huge concentration camp." I suggest to anyone who is interested to read John Pilger's and Robert Sheer's articles on www.antiwar.com in today's edition. Then, read Jonathan's Cook's article in the same place, a journalist who lives in Israel.

"Moderate Arabs?" What moderate Arabs? This is another mirage.

You mean Saudi Arabia that delivered 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists? You mean Arab Sheikhs of the Persian Gulf who delivered the other 4? You mean Madrassa funded and builts by Saudi Arabia in Pakistan? You mean Taliban created and supported by US "Special Non-Nato Ally" Pakistan? You mean president-for-life Hosny Mubarak who has ruled since 1981 by "Emergency Rule?" You mean the US new friend Gaddafi? You mean Jordan, the destination for the CIA "extraordinary renditions" where prisoners are sent for torture, so that the US can claim that it does not torture?

Yes, the IRI benefits from all of this. So what? What the heck is the point? This is supposed to be the point of your article? As Varjavand said, the IRI also benefitted from Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Did the IRI start those also? The fact of the matter is, so long as the US Middle East policy is taken hostage by the lobby for Israel's right-wing Likud (which is not even in the long-term interest of the Israeli people), such blunders will never end. Besides, any other government that is on the same course of action and reaction with the US would try to benefit from the US/Israel blunders in the Middle East. Call the Rouhaniyat in Iran anything you want. They may be anything you say, but they are not stupid.

As Robert Baer, the former CIA agent, said recently in a symposium, "Why are we surprised that Iran supports Hezbollah or Hamas? We are supporting Jundallah and MEK to carry out terrorism inside Iran, we threaten Iran all the time."

And how can the IRI be prevented from benefitting? Simple: Israel should retreat to the borders before the 1967 war, and US should stop supporting the corrupt Arab regimes - YOUR moderates. Once that is done, then we will see whether your "theory" of the IRI survival based on the Middle East crisis is right or wrong. The Middle East crisis and what is being done to the people of that region started long before the IRI was around.

Finally, why is this a "blind" trap? You mean the US and Israel strategists do not see what you see, that this is a trap by the IRI? Either you are too naive, or live in illusions! The US and Israel military establishment  know exactly what they are doing. They are not blind. They have done this too many times, they have failed too many times, and yet they have never learned anything.

As I told you the other day in another post, leave your parallel universe, and come to ours.

Mammad


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IRI teaching Martyrdom to

by sickofiri (not verified) on

IRI teaching Martyrdom to Iranian children

Adding fuel to fire:

//www.liveleak.com/view?i=874_1230714679