MOUSAVI

Ali

So what? Because we have social problems, you want us to hug mullahs? BullS...

To All

دوستان محترم

با تشکر از همهء شما گرچه قصد پاسخگویی به اظهارنظرهای مختلف را نداشتم ولی از آنجا که برخی از نظرات مستقیما مرا خطاب قرار داده اند به اجمال عرض می کنم که به نظر من بسیاری از مسائل مملکت ما هیچ ربطی به نوع حکومت ندارند. مشروح حرف مرا میتوانید در اینجا بخوانید:

//www.iran-e-behtar.com/2009/05/blog-post_17....

Re:Iranivaliazad

You said"Unfortunately, you are one of many who DO NOT see moslem clerics their mozdors and their management and pre-historic policies as the main issue."
This has nothing to do with what I said. What I say is that no-matter what and who the moslem-clerics are, we have serious social problems, and solving a great number of these problems can be solved even at the presence of velayat...
That's all I am saying.
My personal believe about moslim clerics is not the subject of discussion here. I can give my point of view about them as well, but when related to the discussion. Right now I believe wre have got distracted from the main point because some of the fiends keep talking about velayat, moslim-clerics and things like that.

Farhad11

How much did Iran pay for it? How do you quantify defending Iran's independence, integrity and freedom from imperialists in terms of tangible dollar signs? Or are you alluding to another method of measurement?

Everything has a context and Iran's present day circumstances also have a historical, social, cultural and geopolitical context. Viewed in that context I beleive Iran has done very well. However applying the wall street rules of short term bottom line P&L and stock valuation Iran is not ahead.

It all boils down to perspectives.

smhb

I agree with you on some of your points about Ahmadinejad, but you tell me: how much did we pay for it? Is it worth?
Do you really think that Hezb-Allah or Hamas won their war against Israel? Don't you think that it was just a game to kill Muslims?
Do you believe that imperialists are in a weaker position globally because of Ahmadinejad?

My vote

I will vote for Moussavi. However I dont agree with all the invalid criticisms against Ahmadinejad. Do recall that 4 years ago when he was elected president the neo-crazies were in full force planning a war of agression against Iran and the nuclear case was basically lost. The facilities were all closed and all research had stopped.

I give full credit to Ahmadinejad for standing up to the zionists and imperialists and opening up a lot of space for everyone all over the planet.

Four years have passed and the neo-crazies are discredited but not down and out, imperialists are in a weaker position not just in the area but globally, the nuclear file is fully back in Iran's hands with a lot of technical and scientific progress, the zionists have been handed 2 defeats in Lebanon and Gaza, Iran is the dominant freindly power in Iraq, Lebanon and Afghanistan with broad popular support and in a much stronger position today than 4 years ago.

Iran elected Ahmadinejad to stand up to the imperialist bullies and prepare for the worst eventuality: WAR. He did his job and did it very well. The prospect of a WAR of aggression against Iran is not fully removed but in the battle of wits between Iran and the imperialists some space has been created to try to resolve some or all of the issues. Things may not work out but either way Iran is prepared for that scenario. 

The domestic scene is a lot more complicated than meets the eye. However the underlying issue that has not been tackled properly is poverty and economic justice. Wealth distribution or wealth generation and management and the appropriate methods to do it in the confines of Iran's social, political and cultural context. The role of the bazaries in Iran's economy and their place in the power hierarchy. The unnecessary and wasteful gashts all over the city to enforce morality. The erroneous and dogmatic look at everything and everyone thats not religious enough. The false methods utilized for trying to figure out motives and assign guilt. Combating the culture of nepotism that breeds corruption and its been part of our history for a very long time. Lack of trust from some of those who are in power which is directed out towards everyone else and it manifests itself in various ways, what Moussavi calls NEGAHE AMNIATI. It seesm to me that our people, society and country need ARAMESH and peace of mind to come to terms with itself and find an Iranian solution to Iran's challenges.

That solution can not and will not come from Hojatie or Haqqani school and unfortunately Ahmadinejad seems to be allied with them.

Our country is at an important historical juncture. Iran has gone through a very challenging and difficult period during the last 30 years and so far it has emerged strong and resilient. Those who lived through those times and managed Iran's affairs under the most daunting circumstances that would break others, specially during the first 10 years, are men and women of steel (ABDIDE) who will not bend to the whims and wishes of the imperialists and zionists. Moussavi is one of these men and he has my vote and respect.     

خامنه‌ای موسوی را ترجیح می‌دهد! چرا؟

//www.iran-emrooz.net/index.php?/politic/more...

Alie-1 & Prison guard

You said, "But, the thing is that in our country there are lots of works which have nothing to do with so called "Velaayt-e-faghih"

It appears that you do know who OWNS Iran currently, for your information, moslem clerics with Vellayat at its helm that owns the country. Furthermore, we are not talking about obeying traffic regulations, we are talking about future of 70 million citizens of Iran. Most of Iranians are taken hostage by moslem clerics and their "mozdors". Now, moslem clerics want their hostages to vote who will be the next prison guard.

Unfortunately, you are one of many who DO NOT see moslem clerics their mozdors and their management and pre-historic policies as the main issue.

Ali-1

That is a problem that exists in every country and No leader or president anywhere in the world would care to deal with. You are getting off tack here big time.

The bottom line is that all of these candidates work for the same "arbab" and it is that same "arbab" and his system that people want gone.

Re: Kourosh S

Mr Kourosh;

Nobody is fooling you. Yes, no matter who gets to the office, he has to go to the supreme leader and ...
But, the thing is that in our country there are lots of works which have nothing to do with so called "Velaayt-e-faghih" and similar things. If our people do not obey traffic light, it is the leader's fault? If our people (in the government or outside) easily lie for very basic things, it is "Velaayat"'s fault?

If somebody comes who has shown that he can do a fair job in his area, we should still blindly say Bullsh... and make fun of those who try to just support this simple idea?

problems

همه خوب میدونن مشکل ما فرهنگیه بحث دختر و پسر و ضعیفه بودن خیلی وقته حل شده الا فعلا مردا ضعیف شدن داداش نمیبینی جنین تو سطل آشغال دانشگاهه نمیبینی چه دخترایی هستن که با فریب همین آقا پسرای شمشاد دیگه پرده ...ندارن عزیز نمیبینی یارو عرق رو با سطل میخوره اعتیاد رو نیمبینی اومدن 60 درصد زنا رو تو ادارات بردن جوون مملکت شغلشو پیدا نکرد رفت معتاد شد و غیره ... افارط گری درباره زن سالاری اتفاق افتاد یعنی اومدن حقوق زن رو بدن اما اونقدر بالاش بردن که یک عده دیگه خورد تو سرشون داداش اعتدال خیلی خوبه خاتمی هم چون نفهمید بابا این مملکت مشکل فرهنگی داره آمریکا با چهار تا کانال و چهار تا سی دی و چهار تا ودکا مغز جوون ایرانی رو برد به سمت همون جهان سومی اما در دانشجوهای خودشرو اگر اینجوری باشن تو سیستم آموزش و پرورش تنبه میکنن تا کی میخواین با بحث دختر و ÷سر و دیوار یک عده رو خر کنین ؟ این کشور نیاز به فرهنگ و محبت و آرامش داره که به نظر من همین دولت داره همین کار رو میکنه اما بعضیا چون جیرشون قطع شده دارن جیغ میگشن که آقا این فرد مناسب نیست ...!!

Stuck between the rock and the hard place

It seems that those anti-tahrimis and the ones who are encouraging people to get out and vote, have found a new tool to back up their claim, That by voting you are absolutely not "legitimizing" the regime. Bullsh.......Or there is another claim, saying that even if one does not believe in the foundation of this system, You can not miss the fact that there definitely is a difference between ahmadinejad and mousavi!!

Who the hell do they think they are fooling? I guess this is some kind of a joke and they know it too. No matter who gets the job, before they start and take the oath of the office, They MUST go and do a nice round of hand and As...kissing of their Superior.

Ostaad.

Amen to that brother.

Farhad11

It should be clear to you by now, since for the past at least 2 years, an event such as this one has happened (not necessarily with mousavi) but with larijani, karoubi in mashhahd and shiraz. every time the same questions were asked and everytime BS was received. Walking out is an outright expression of not wanting to deal with what really counts and what matters. he could not possibly have made it so clear than that. His visions and policies are as vague and ineffective as they can be.  They can take the reform and shove it.

Understand Please

سلام به دوست عزیزم که این متن رو نوشتند واقعا درد دلات رو میدونم اما واقعا به نظر تو الان دیواری بین زن و مرد هست ؟ الان که این قضیه در کشور تموم شده ثانیا ضعیفه بودن زن هم خیلی وقته تو ایران حل شده مگه نمیشنوی همه مردا تو ایران میگن ما زز هستیم یعنی زن ذلیل فعلا داداش مردا ضعیف شدن ببین نمیدونم کی میاد و باید بیاد اکثر مشکلات ما فرهنگیه که باید فرهنگ اصلاح بشه اگه دقت کنی به همین حرف میرسی که این دولت هم به همین نتیجه رسید دختره فرهنگ نداره تو دانشگاه جنین پیدا میشه وقتی میخواد عرق بخوره یارو 4 لیتری میخوره جوون مملکت داره از بین میره چون خانوادش داره از بین میره همه اینا دادش فرهنگیه و همه ش اول بر میگرده به سیستم اداره کردن و تربیت فرزند که متاسفانه الان خیلی کم رنگه ایرانیا مصرف گرا هستند چرا ما هی گیر دادیم به دختر و پسر بابا مشکل این مملکت فرهنگه از دست رفتشونه
اما به نظر من موسوی بدرد این کار نمیخوره من صحبتاشو گوش کردم نه تنها بیان خوبی نداره بلکه اگه آدم یکم فنی باشه میفهمه این فرد نمیتونه مشکل فرهنگو حل کنه من مستندشو دیدم دیدی چقدر سیدیشو وانمود میکنه پارچه های سبز..و .. اینها یعنی عوام فریبی داداش تا کی ؟ جون من تا کی یک عده مردم رو خر گیر بیاری حرف از دختر و پسر بزنی دیوار و فلان چیز بابا مشکل رو دقیق ببین از کجاست بعد بیا حلش کن خاتمی هم جون نفهمید مشکل مملکت کجاست اومد ابروشو درست کنه زد چششو کور کرد

Personnal note

30 years of destruction by moslem clerics and their gangs which includes EVERY single so called candidate has not taught the Iranians that in a dictatorship system where there is ONLY one RULER, voting is meaningless. The idea of voting in IRI is same as Hitler, Moselleni or Stalin having elections for public to choose a Vice Dictator.

Voters who believe moslem clerics might as well make a trip to Jamkamaran and hand a personal note to the invisible creature and ask that their favorite Puppet to be hired for the custodian job.

Farhad11

Too bad for you.

Parham

This site belongs to a group of students, used to support Ahmadi-Nejad but now they are supporting Karroubi because of some promises for the students. Their strategy is very similar to Basiji students. I am not a Mousavi-Lover, but I can't trust this source.

Farhad11

No, but I trust you will tell me.

Parham

Mr Parham;

Do you know who are behind this website: bamdadkhabar.com?

I have another idea. First

I have another idea. First of all, it is not clear how much of this story is true. second of all, even if it is true, asking some controversial questions and not receiving answer does not mean that he does not now the truth and does not want to solve them. This is politic.

babak pirouzian

It seems the answer to a lot of those questions is no already:

//bamdadkhabar.com/2009/05/post_1633/

big show

i think this is a part of a big show, these people(iri) are all the same(sar va tah yak karbas), just like khatami, this guy(mousavi), if elected/selected will just buy more time for iri survival. all these people believe in velyat faghih and iri the only difference is the mask they are wearing.

Ali, I agree with you on the necessity to vote, although...

I think the "velayat-e-faghih" has to be abolished and the akhondi regime uprooted in order for a regime of peace and civil rights to be established in Iran . I believe not voting leaves the scene open for the incumbent's supporters, in this case Ahamdinejad's, to dominate the scene and win the election for him.

What if he cannot deliver?

What if he says the same thing as Khatamee said " my hand is tied from back"

Would he free all political prisoners?

Would he give freedom and equality to woman?

Would he stop child execution?

Would he bring all traitors, including Ahmadi Nejad to justice for all atrocities and mismanagement? 

Would he stand firm in front of Khamene ee and his thugs? would he ask people to come and demonstrate asking for their rights, if he is forced to stop delivering what he is preeching now?