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Regime could change from within, peacefully??? Be Real !!!!!!!!
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Mon Apr 11, 2011 07:51 PM PDTIran is not Poland.
Iran is not South Africa.
Iran has to deal with the Fact that it is an energy Giant and this clouds its politics all the way.
Just $24 billion dollars of Iranian Natural gas, exported to the country that gets it produces over $50 billion dollars in tax income for the purchases country on the first level, then as a result of economc expansion resulting from the energy the economy grows by $300 billion dollars causing an additional $100 billion in taxes.
Summary $24 billion approximates to $150 billion in taxes and a growth in economy of $300 billion, this makes gettig and controlling the energy resource a vital interest for most countries.
Reflect on current history, Ai-Quaeda & Taleban are CIA, Mossad, Pakistan intelligence. Muslim Brotherhood is MI6. Khomeini was MI6/CIA and all those around him. Radicalism/terrorist groups are brought in to take over countries, whether Al-Qaeda to remove Saddam, Muslim Brotherhood to kill Sadat (for helping the Shah in his hour of weakness), Muslim brotherhood to remove Mobaraks Egypt, Al-Qaeda/Taleban to remove Libya's Ghaddafi.
The West Just Loves Islam for the people of the middle east and they are not going to give up on finding Iran a new group of fundamentalists to replace the ones they brought to Iran and over time lost control of.
Reza Pahlavi's Idealism borders on Naivite unless theres some secret plan I can't see. He will never be allowed to unify Iranians to be able to stand up to the West. A Freedom/Democracy based peoples movement under Iranians Control does not serve their primary motive.
They really don't care about civilians/democracy/freedom at the human level for the middle east and we shouldn't expect them to focus their energy on uniting Iranians in the way they did, say when they backed Khomeini.
Their primary goal in destroying the shah, through betray of carter, was to stop the freedom and development of Iranians.
On a Positive note, One thing great about what Reza Pahlavi is doing is what we call, calling the bluff of the West. Once Reza Pahlavi's vision for peaceful democratic change is completely defeated by the west inpursuit of it's real agenda, then that door will be closed for good and Iranians will be one step closer to bringing the Regime in Iran and Fundamentalist Islam to an end. The correct way and the only way left will be organizing Iranians within the country who can clearly see the real agendaof the west, to come to arms and restore a secular monarchy. A movement with a Leader, based on tradition andwith a proven history of bringing about progress and development. The majority of Iranians will welcome it. But first we have to remind and reveal to all Iranians what the west is really about and what they really thinkof peaceful change from with in, away from fundamentalism.
ahosseini Jaan here is your answer ...
by Darius Kadivar on Mon Apr 11, 2011 02:47 PM PDTahosseini & Simorgh5555: What is it your don't Understand ? ;0)
I like RP since he
by comments on Mon Apr 11, 2011 02:30 PM PDTI like RP since he presented his non-violence view. Do you know how many people are/will be saved in Iran by his non-violence view? Less torture, less orphants children and less of everything....
Iranian arm groups have been the first producer of the Iranian orphan children as well as making IRI stronger than ever.
RP valued the life of Iranian individuals. Why should a life of an American is much more valued than an Iranian?
Does someone want to Translate?
by Escape on Mon Apr 11, 2011 09:26 AM PDTI mean,wouldn't that be appropiate?
To Roozbeh and DK
by ahosseini on Mon Apr 11, 2011 04:04 AM PDTI agree with Roozbeh.
Reza Pahlavi is far ahead of traditional monarchist trying to revive an old fashion and totally out of date and unacceptable dictatorial regime based on the wishes of a man "chosen by god". The only thing I would suggest to supporter of any party or organisation claiming to fight for democracy(including Reza Pahlavi's organisation) in Iran is accountability to loyal members while in opposition. Otherwise they are talking nonsense and just expressing empty phrases and another set of false promises. Somehow DK makes all kinds of accusations in various blogs. However, I would like DK to clarify if he agrees with me on leaders being accountable to members through democratic means without blaming me for all the problems in Libya, Russia, China, Cuba, and god knows all the other dictatorial regimes.
I think the fundamaental problem with western democracy is that it is being administered by the medi fully controlled by the very every rich in the society. Please, could DK make comment on this specific point.
Oh But RG Jaan No need to go Ambush I'll Still Smell You ;0))
by Darius Kadivar on Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:41 PM PDTOh But RG Jaan No need to go Ambush by changing your avatar cause Not only I will always recognize your likes but more importantly I will Still Beat You at My Game ...
Dallas JR's Golden Rules
Hee Hee
Related Blog:
DON'T CALL ME JUNIOR: How J.R Ewing Exported the Revolution To the Middle East
Yes DK Jan, this short, fat, ugly , humourless, smelly
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:26 AM PDTguy called Lenin was quite something wasnt he? I mean he got the help he needed from germans ( I believe in form of transport in a locked train carriage through German controlled Finland, he did not ask for german military or secret service to overthrow the Tsar), overthrow the Tsar. Then established a system capable of smashing the mighty German army thirty years later, and taking half of it!
Now, despite my earlier kind words for Mr Reza pahlavi, I somehow doubt he could repeat Lenin's performance, after all, sadly they dont make them like Lenin anymore!
Thanks also for the link on the guadalope conference, yet confirming my point about relying on our own people, 70 million of them, than foreign powers (see what these nasty brits and americans are doing now to their once darling islamist regime and al_qaeda?!!)
P.S. I might change my avatar to something a bit neutral (I think to pistachi nuts and a name like koroush kabir!). I think my avatar and user ID makes you feel obliged to disagree with me, even though you can see and agree with my points.
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
The difference between a Revolution and 'Regime Change'
by Mash Ghasem on Sun Apr 10, 2011 03:07 PM PDTThe best case scenario of all these 'international lobbying' efforts would be to force a 'change' of the ruling thugs, and replacing them with some polite thugs in three piece suits. Why?
To begin with; the very term "Regime Change' is part of that bankrupt, defunct, neoliberal, neocon verbage that has long lost any crediblity in the real world. The regimes in Afghanistan and Iraq have been 'changed' , and as a result now we have Islamic Republic of Iraq, and Islamic Republci of Afghanistan. Some 'change' to look forward to.
In sharp contarst to this foreign based scheme, what RG correctly points out is a (complex and multi-dimentional) process of self-organization initiated inside the country, by the Iranian peole, for the Iranian people, based on our own resources. A simple principal of self-reliance.
Revolutionary Defeatism was Lenin's and the entire Third International's official policy. It simply means, instead of killing your fellow working-class (soliders) from other countries and slaughtering each other, each solider would turn their gun back on their commanding officers and deal with their own tyrants. It worked in Russia, for a very short while.
In 1917 Lenin (on his way to Russia to organize the October Revolution) was asked by journalists if characterizing him as a Radical was correct, his reply was : " Reality is radical." The less room there's is for gradual reforms, more opportunities for revolutioanry upheavels, and Vladimer Illyich still has a lot to listen to as far as latter. Below is one of the best introductions to V.I.L., happy reading. Cheers
Lenin: A Study on the Unity of his ThoughtGeorg Lukacs 1924
//www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/1924/...
Democracy is the sweet
by Soosan Khanoom on Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:01 AM PDTDemocracy is the sweet seasonal fruit ... Yummy one of these days they come in your neck of the wood and plant it for you right now they are too busy gardening in Libya Oh ..AHH.. lala..lalala : ) thanks for the music Darius but let us hope not for Iran ........ and yes we can !
As for DemoKracy It's a Luxury which will depend on your behavio
by Darius Kadivar on Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:19 AM PDTAs for DemoKracy It's a Luxury which will depend on your behavior:
Russian Army in Chechnya
SEPARATIST TEMPTATIONS: Don't Let It Fool You ... Treason Exists ...
pictory: Soviet Propaganda Film - Iran, Tabriz 1945-46
Try Not to Mess it Up This Time Round :
Isn't Calling for the Head of State's Death usually called "Treason"?
For You may End Up with this less Fortunate Result due to your own immaturity and misplaced Priorities:
ABJEEZ DemoKracy
Halah Azizam Beeya Ba Man Begoo MARG BAR AMERIKA ! LOL
RG Jaan Yes I do One simply has to look at Lenin's history ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:27 AM PDTWho supported the Bolchevik Revolution if not the Germans and the Brits ? ...
Chapter III: LENIN AND GERMAN ASSISTANCE FOR THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION
All "Popular" Revolutions were ultimately achieved by some compromise with foreign powers including your very own Joon Joony Islamic Revolution which had the Support of France when it accepted to shelter Khomeiny and brought the international press to it's attention (when no one had heard of him prior to that ) :
Khomeini: No Monarchy
Khomeini Interview in Paris 1978
As well as by all former allies of the Shah be it indirectly after the infamous Guadaloupe Conference where they decided to abandon support for the Shah:
in guadaloupe, carter announced that shah must go, vge
The same former allies who then officially acknowledged the exiled opposition which Bakhtiar's Legitimate Government tried bravely but unsuccessfully to denounce:
pictory: Bakhtiar Denounces Bazargan's Provisionary Government in exile (1979)
So You may ask us Monarchists...
"Adab az Keh Amookhteed ?"
Our Answer will be :
"Az Shoma Bee Adaban"
GOOD BYE LENIN !
Goodbye Lenin - Trailer #1
LOL
Hee Hee
DK, Future of Iran....
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Sun Apr 10, 2011 09:41 AM PDTOr at least the future to look and fight for will be decided on the streets, factories and colleges of Iran, by the ordinary Iranian men and women, through a process of revolutionary struggle leading to complete dismantling of the corrupt, murderously fascist islamist regime and it's replacement with a secular democracy.
Any other "future", in particular any future to be decided in moscow, washington, Bejing or Ankara would lead to another form of dictatorship.
P.S. , do you seriously think a country like turkey surviving off handoffs from EU/US, begging to be recognised as "european", in return for it's servitude to Nato as a third rate partner, is in a decision making position for it's own destiny let alone a neighbouring country as strategically important as Iran?!
P.S.S: the more I listen to Reza Pahlavi, the more I like him and believe he is miles ahead of his supporters. Who knows, he might even be a closet socialist!
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Old interview by the Way Prior to the Elections of 2009
by Darius Kadivar on Sun Apr 10, 2011 09:24 AM PDTJust for the note !
Your Majesty Don't Count on the West Move to Russia or Turkey
by Darius Kadivar on Sun Apr 10, 2011 09:32 AM PDTYour Majesty Don't Count on the West:
Last Act in the Mideast (Newsweek)
Move to Russia or Turkey That is where the Future of Iran will be decided ...
On Libya, Russia Shows New, Non-Aligned Foreign Policy
"Turkey Relishes Role as Mr. Fixit"
It is the Diplomats / Leaders of these countries which need to be convinced (through similar "lobbying techniques" used by our adversaries) that there is a better alternative to the IRI ...
Best,
DK
To Mr Reza Pahlavi or supporters
by ahosseini on Sun Apr 10, 2011 06:05 AM PDTYour words seems to be appealing to some people who believe in democracy. I would like to ask if you have a mechanism by which your own loyal supporters can take part in discussions, propose and amend resolutions and cast their votes for the policies you pursue in your organisation?