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دلیل نابودی چنار‌های تهران

یه ترکه در حال آزمایش رانندگی‌ ماشینو میکوبه به یه چنار، افسر میپرسه چیکار میکنی‌؟ ترکه میگه سرکار خودت گفتی‌ بیزن چنار

(پی‌ اس. حالا احساساتتون جریحه دار نشه خودم آذریم ) 

با تمام عشقی‌ که به طبیعت دارم فکر می‌کنم اول باید گردن آزادیخواه‌ها رو از طناب دار نجات بدیم بعد درختی رو که بهش آویزون میشن

Government and the Mayor of Tehran are responsible

They are not doing a damn thing...

But not just these trees

They themselves have personally killed many other ages old trees that existsed in the northern part of Tehran by destroying the old neighborhoods and planting tall residential or commercial buildings instead.....   

Northern part of Tehran is not anything like it used to be. Those who did that to tehran should really pay for it one day..... 

16 Million People can easily plant 500 Thousand Trees....

Any one wants to Volunteer?

درخت های چنار بیگناه تهران!

والله من تعجب میکنم که این درخت های چنار تهرون اینقدر دوام آوردن.

منکه بچه دبیرستانی بودم یا ملت بعد از سینما پای این درخت ها می شا ش*دن یاهم  اینکه بعد از  فیلم های بروس لی به این درخت های بیگناه جفتک و لگد میزدن!

این درخت های چنار و سگ و گربه های بی صاحب ایران واقعا مظلومن!

تقصیر مردمه که این چنار‌ها رو حواله میدن به نه بدتر آخوندا

Bad Stories for Bad Kids

Thanks Esfand Jaan

So as you mentioned in your comment (not exact words), they had such lofty goals for jaame that they had to abandon the whole thing. Thanks for this info and also for movie recommendation.

BTW I meant No one "Knows" About Persian Cats

This is a very good movie and I highly recommend it and perhaps partly related to this tree story.  Problems in Iran are not one or two, they are all encompassing.

You can rent it on Netflix as well.

No One Knows About Persian Cats (2009) 

Everything is sacred

Jaame was shooting from the hips!

They were trying to put too much in Jammeh which means complete!  Presumably math and biology and literature would all be crammed into this Jammeh.  But it got cancelled partly because many students didn't sign up for it.  They chose mostly between tabei, riazi physics and then adabi. 

Everything is sacred

Question is about "reshte jaame" as opposed to nazari

couple of my relatives were first year of nezaame jadeed and wanted to study jaame not nazari but reshte jaame got cancelled. does anyone remember how jaame was different than nazari and why it got cancelled?

No1 cares about Persian cats = no1 cares about Persian trees!

Anahid jaan what is the question?! 

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thanks Esfand jan. I have a question

but it is not about trees. my question is about nezaame jadeed. i don't want to divert attention from poor trees though. i remember them. so many memories from valliasr and different parts of it. i used to take those buses that went up and down valli asr for few years.

thursdays off, now that is good news for students.

فقط درخت نیست،

آقای جیش دارم،

مثل اینکه میخونی ولی ها، خودمونیم...

عزیزم سرکار جان کلام را نگرفتین. اینجا فقط درخت نیست، تمامه محیط زیست مساله میباشد. کثافات سر تا پای مملکت را گرفته است. بله این مردم هستند که شعور ندارند که مملکت خود را تمیز نگاه دارند، ولی دولت هم نقشه مهمی دارد. متاسفانه چون دولت به ایران و ایرانی اهمیت نمیده از این هم بد تر بشه، که میشه، دولت بیشتر نگران مسجد ساختن و چرت و پرت بار مردم کردن میباشد تا حمایت محیط زیست!

5th grade math for $1000 or Branches of Shiism for $100?!

Hmm, decisions, decisions!

Anahid jaan I'm new school and the 2nd year new school, meaning they changed the system on us one year earlier and another generation became the guinea pigs first!  That Shah and his rastakhiz movement!  BTW in Tehran there will be no school on Thursdays this school year which starts on Sep 21st!  My school age relatives in Iran are ecstatic!  Other cities may cancel school on Thursdays too but nothing official yet.

5th grade math or 6th grade or even 12th grade math is not that difficult anywhere, it's just kids are too lazy to learn anything!  Left to their own choices they rather just play video games all day or in our case when computers were not available, play football all day long!

COP jaan, AO jaan is more knowledgable about branches of Islam!  See here where he has admittedly confessed to being an Asna hAshari Shiite!  

With my broken knowledge of Islam I think you're confusing the academic titles of Shiism with a branch of it!  Sheykholeslam is one level before Hojatoleslam which is one level before Ayatollah and then Grand Ayatollah and then Imam and so on and so forth! 

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درخت

Esfand jaan, 5th grade math is not so easy

I don't know if you studied nezaam ghadeem or jadeed in Iran. When I went to school, 5th grade was more difficult for me than any Rahnamii class. Talking with my sister about her daughter's math, it turns out that one reason 5th grade is more difficult is the math. Both in Iran and in US, in fifth grade, you are solving math problem without use of variables like X and Y. Since problems have become more difficult than 3rd and 4th grade, 5th grade has many math problems that are word problems and can get confusing or at least not easy. Once kids go to Rahnamaai in Iran or junior high in US, they learn about variables and can use them in solving their math problems. So 5th grade math is one of the more difficult math classes.

no prob esfand jan. i'm the substitute internet professor today.

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Irene, that b***h

yeah may be you can tell me about some of those places. I do have access to off road transportaion there and very much interested. 

I couldn't find anyone to take down the tree (not a big one), so I did it myself and am still paying for it with aches and pains......

I did have to take down 2 last year medium sized trees that were too close to the house, but it breaks my heart everytime. I am a true tree hugger...LOL

My shiaism is a secret shhhhhhhhh as you know, I am devoted (as in no vote). 

btw, is sheykholeslami a branch of shiaism, or is it just one of those cool islamic/PURRRRRRRRSIAN kaaseye-daagh-tar-az-aash names?

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Hamsade jaan thanks for the lecture! I did not know that!

Everything is sacred

not all good things have to come to an end

the reason to cut trees so that the baseej can crack people's heads more efficiently is much different than cutting the tree in my backyard so that it won't crack my head.

the reason that price of meat has doubled in iran in the past couple of years should not make us forget about women's right in iran.

the reason....

it's a good exercise esfand jan.  make one of these sentences on your own.  not all good things have to come to an end.

COP jaan as a devout Asnaa Ashari Shiite u should know better!

Or are you an Alavi Shiite?!  Either way, environment situation in Iran is CRAP!  I've been going back to Iran for the past 9 - 10 years and from my first visit the first thing that jumps at you is the trash that is everywhere.  You go to beautiful mountains way outside the urban areas and still you see trash.

Now in the past couple years at least I've seen some trash cans around, still trash overflowing around it!

I did set foot in Caspian and rivers that I visited, Iranian water is purrrre :-)  Seriously I go to places that you guys have not even heard of and the only sign of Islamic Republic is some 4x4 gravel roads that I used to travel with mules when they were just mule trails!

The environmental problemS in Iran is a sensitive issue to many but mostly ignored.  It's getting better though, because some people never give up and don't want to blame Islamic Republic for what little that can be done.

About Irene and the storms, you don't have to cut all the trees but you can try and cut the trees that are threatening the house like those in close proximity.  I rather keep all of them because of shade but mother nature has other plans and before I piss her off I rather cut those trees off!  Hai-Ku!

Anahid jaan thanks, I'm only smarter than a 5th grader but not smarter than a 6th grade though! 

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esfand

You can't ignore one problem because of another (or many OTHERS, as is the case with Iran). 

You were there this summer, what do you think is happening environmentally there? Did you dare set foot in the water when you went shumal?

Everything has its place. But like I said neither the people, nor the government care - in that sense, you're right.

btw, I did loose a tree during the storm, doesn't mean I'm cut them all down as I have many more.

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Esfand Jaan,

Indeed all good things come to an end or a different beginning.

Most good things come to an end, including magnificant trees.

I live in a community with mature trees and the cost of removing one is in the thousands of dollars and because it is so expensive people don't do it but every now and then when we have a storm they fall and cause significant damage to homes, even death.

This latest hurricane Irene caused about 40 deaths (not including injuries) and more than half were related to fallen trees.

The trees in Pahlavi, as magnificant as they are, get bigger and bigger and leaning sideways and eventually fall.  I recall photos on the web showing these fallen trees.

They need to replant them and I think it'll eventually be done but like other things it takes a crisis to take a step.  We should consider ourselves lucky to have lived when these trees were beautiful and magnificant.  Other nice things have fallen apart, like Caspian for example, and life is definately not what it used to be and people don't even care.  They have bigger fish to fry.

Take a look at the Ettelaat newspaper headline today saying the official inflation at 17.2% and 4.5%  caused specifically by the cash subsidies.  This is the "official" rate, imagine the actual rates.  Now would you care about trees if you had these kind of numbers to deal with on a daily basis? 

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Dear Arj, thank you very much for your clarification. i got it. (Not doubting for a second that greed qualifies as Sickness.) 

cop, i tried to get a

cop, i tried to get a southbound bus for an hour.  every single bus was so crammed that i couldn't get on it.  it's easier to get on an overcroweded bus in bangladesh.  i ended up walking. 

btw, it becomes two way again after meidoon vanak.  i was taking a cab from vanak and there was a young pasdar passenger in the front.  i asked the cabbie, in jest, why has vali-asr become one-way because i saw him frustrated with traffic and the fact he couldn't go south.  he turned to the pasdar and said "i don't want to offend anyone with my opinion."  the pasdar laughed and said "khoob nist chizi to delet negah dari.  har chi mikhai begoo."  and then the cabbie, reiterated the story of security forces getting around (which i had heard before) as politely as he could.  he only used "haroomzadeh-ha" couple of times.

I was there in June HG jaan

and thought that making khiyaboon palavi one-way was kind of absurd. Those trees, though, are really magnificent and it would be a shame to see them go. 

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if you've been to tehran

if you've been to tehran lately, you'll see for yourself why the trees will be removed.  the fate of the trees are caused by a different kind of "aafat," the pashmaloo kind.  because of the 2008 uprising and inability of baseej and other security forces to move around efficiently, they have made vali-asr one-way (northbound) from abbas-abad to the north.  the southbound lane is used by buses, the motorcycles (illegal, but they even use sidewalks!) and security forces (when needed).  this action has angered tehranis who are affected by the lack of southbound transportation in this street and adjoining streets which are jammed now.

when i was there, everyone was talking about the rumor that the government is planning to take down the trees to make the street wider.  no one talked about environment as a cause for removal.  i did not see a single sick tree.  word.

Iran and Environment

Iran is in dire environmental remediation, but with most people totally ignorant about these matters and a government more interested in robbing her coffers and the welfare of non Iranians, the future of Iran's resources and her people do not look very rosy. 

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Overload

Enveironment, without a doubt, is a grave concern. But I wouldn't go so far as turning these trees into gallows poles! Perhaps we can spare these trees the ordeal and let akhoonds be the judicial systems' burden (no pun intended)!!!

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Simorgh, you're correct, and thanks for your continued posts on Lake Oromieh. How about a blog ONLY on Enviornmental Disaters currently occuring in Iran? The situation is a lot worse than you think.