Reuters -- Iranian opposition leaders have applied for permission to stage a rally in support of revolts in Egypt and Tunisia, their websites said, posing a dilemma for a government which stamped out their own mass protests a year ago. The figureheads of the Green movement said they wanted to organise their rally on Monday, February 14 [See Facebook page]. "To announce our solidarity with the public movement in the region, especially the freedom-seeking uprising of the peoples of Tunisia and Egypt against tyrannical governments ... we ask for permission to invite the people (to a rally)," read a letter to the interior minister, signed by opposition leaders Mirhossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karoubi and reproduced on their websites >>>
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COP jaan it's not about "defending" the leaders!
by Esfand Aashena on Mon Feb 07, 2011 06:53 AM PSTIt's about taking actions on your own and not "blaming" Mousavi for not being able to! Every other day there is a cartoon or piece ridiculing Mousavi and Karoubi in this website. Is that going to help us hold street protests or form our own opposition?!
My point is you do what you can do and don't use Mousavi as an excuse. The old executions during Mousavi is another story. For the time being the world knows Karoubi and Mousavi as the "opposition" leaders! They hold sizeable support as well.
I know we're not going to agree and I'm not going to convince anyone otherwise. I'm just saying blaming Mousavi and Karoubi for lack of organization or not being able to hold alternative opposition street rallies and change is lame!
Everything is sacred
Rea there is always "inspirations" but large street rallies?
by Esfand Aashena on Mon Feb 07, 2011 06:46 AM PSTHaving large street rallies is a big undertaking and if this rally takes place it is not just about "reform" but the people who would come to the streets would be the "opposition". So the larger the better.
PS What happened to the link problem?! Last I heard you couldn't "paste". Did you try Ctrl-V for "paste" like I said? Ctrl-V is holding the Control key in your keyboard and the letter V in your keyboard at the same time.
Ctrl-C for copy and Ctrl-V for paste. If you right click your mouse and copy or paste don't show up, use ctrl-v. Try it and let me know or where you're stuck. i.com's IT guy is aloof and we have to help each other!
Everything is sacred
esfand jan, now I disagree
by Cost-of-Progress on Mon Feb 07, 2011 06:46 AM PSTesfand jon, if you really believe that Mousavi, who presided over many executions and chain murders in iran during his reign as PM really cares about the people, I have a nice bridge outside my office that is for sale.
It's great to support the Green - the people - for trying to right the wrong, the mess, their fathers got them into 30+ years earlier, but it is not alright to defend the so called "leaders". The same leaders who spoke out in favor of the "nezam" and status quo.
Aziyatemoon nakon, dadaash!
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Esfand
by Rea on Mon Feb 07, 2011 06:38 AM PSTThis is what I've read here recently.
//iranian.com/main/news/2011/01/30/egyptian-protests-inspire-opposition-iran
I'm very much for peaceful reforms from within. However, picking dates sounds rather cotton.
PS. as you can see, replacing links with words is still beyond my reach. Me old bag. ;o)
COP jaan I disagree. The "leaders" backed off to stop blodshed.
by Esfand Aashena on Mon Feb 07, 2011 05:56 AM PSTAt the height of the protests when the regime thugs were mowing people down and we saw the evidence on youtube videos asking for people to come to the streets again was simply getting more people killed.
Iran in 2009 was nothing like Egypt in 2011. In Egypt people are barricaded in one Tahrir Square with wall to wall coverage. Journalists are the ones being targeted! Iranian regime didn't care about how many they would kill. Khamenei gave them the go ahead in his Friday's prayer and deported all the journalists to get ready.
Anyway, when you don't have a strong enough protests which is cracking blaming these "leaders" for asking people to stay home is something else. For one thing they said we're not asking them to come out, which is different than asking them to stay home.
In any event, you can't blame these "leaders" for both being irrelevant and then being instrumental in stopping people to protest! You can't have it both ways! Have your own rallies and protests and stop nagging about these "leaders"!
Everything is sacred
"Leaders"? (the case of Fati and her britches)
by Cost-of-Progress on Mon Feb 07, 2011 05:42 AM PSTWhen the Iranian people went out on the streets in June 2009, these so called leaders quickly backed out once they realized that people's intention and demands were targetted at the very heart of their thugacracy. The very system that these people's livelihood depended on. These "leaders" are but different branches of the same sick old tree of the political islam in our non-arab country.
Until we have legitimate opposotion leaders who base their efforts on secular demands and the estbalsihment of a secular state, nothing will make a dent in the Islamic Empire's aspirations to take over the region and the......world! Of course, such leadership would quickly be branded anti-revolution, anti-islam and anti everything and its leaders quickly executed that the making of such leadership is not yet ......... in the works.
As we say in Persian: "in harfaa vaase fati tonboon nemishe"
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Rea February 12 is the Iranian Revolution's anniversary.
by Esfand Aashena on Mon Feb 07, 2011 05:25 AM PSTOr is it Feb 11th? One of the two. Anyway, I think 14 February is just a random day picked so as not to coincide with any other day on the Iranian calendar to compete with Government. Being able to have rallies was/is a big part of the Iranian "constitution" as well as many Shia religious callings.
So not being able to have rallies is against both religion and the constitution and the more Islamic Republic violates it the more "illegal" it becomes. So it's a good thing to keep documenting the illegal acts.
It's like Jon Stewart and Stevel Colbert rally in America back in September which was just like any other Saturday, picked at random!
Everything is sacred
I thought it was 12 February
by Rea on Mon Feb 07, 2011 04:29 AM PSTIs 14 February more "solidaire"? Because of the banned Valentine's ?
Rotten tomatoes
by Jahanshah Javid on Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:12 AM PSTThrow rotten tomatoes at IRI embassies. Honestly.