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HG: Not so logical if we leave our hate for IRI at home

Sanction obviously is not the sole cause, only a contributing factor. One that is having a direct effect on ordinary Iranians either having to take greater risk in air travel or give it up all together as some suggest here.

"why doesn't the Iranian aviation authority ground planes that are unsafe"

Do we know that they have not with those that have been determined unsafe? Did they KNOW that those planes that have been involved in a crash were unsafe yet were allowed to take off any way? Obviously I don't have the hard data to say either way but I doubt you have either unless you can say so. It would not be wild to say that IRI has lowered its safety standards in relation to commercial aviation but to imply that might be a direct or some what indirect affect of having access to parts and newer technology.

There is obviously and active effort on the West part to bring IRI to its knees and submission. Likewise IRI is resisting this by all means meanwhile the people are paying the price for this.

Mehrdad

If you think Uncle Sam is causeing Iran's air disasters ...

plan on taking the bus now, donkey later.Obama won't attack Iran, but he seems committed to an economic squeeze.

"Iranian hating Iranians"

Read the comments of this pro sanctions crowd here.

What a sorry bunch they are.

"Iranian hating Iranians" describes them best, they don't even want to sign a petition that may help Iranians! This website is called Iranian dotcom and they even refuse to sign a petition to help them? 

They are very good with shedding crocodile tears for Iran and Iranians, they write wateried eye 'poetry', 'Naneh Man Gharibam' stories and follow the score of Iranian football team but when it comes to saving lives they are very determined to oppose it! What a sorry bunch. 

Read their excuses for keeping sanctions that kills and starve ordinary Iranians. According to their logic more planes should crash, more people must starve and die.  

What do they have to worry about? they Live in their comfortable homes in the West, why should they give a damn? And they all claim to be Iranian? They are "Iranian Hating Iranians" and They are pathetic.

The audacity, really.

I will sign this petition and thanks for the link. 

Not too smart without democracy

The idea of free unhindered trade, especially for civilian infrastructure is great but in practicallity we all know how the Islamic cleptocracy treats all resources. Why not along with the petition also advocate a widespread boycott of all airlines run by Isalmic regime until they decide to leave the industry to professional airline people. I have suggested before with only oil revenue, every day the regime can easily buy at least one of the most advanced passenger airliners, again that is every day.

ghalam-doon, thanks for

ghalam-doon,

thanks for the article.  but you see, the mahdi cyber army is just out here to blame all the incompetencies of their masters on sanctions, aipac, zionists, etc....  and there are some well-intentioned people who just follow these goons without answereing some logical questions.  not one person who has blamed airplane crashes in iran has answered why doesn't the iranian aviation authority ground planes that are unsafe?  if the planes need a part that they cannot get because of sanctions, then why do they allow these planes to fly in the first place?

i like to know from those who sign this petition: do you think that without these sanctions, there would be less airplane crashes in iran?  if yes, do you think those who authorize the safety of an airplane have different safety standards during sanctions and without sanctions?

Thanks ghalam-doon, good article that you provided link for.

Signing petitions is not always the best course of action. Rather than just signing, first google plane crashes in Iran and spend an hour or two, reading about these crashes. Then see if you still think that signing petition is best course of action to take.

Before signing..

Read this article:

//www.asriran.com/fa/news/153391

win - win situation

Selling parts or new aircrafts to Iran will help both countries. Less loss life from Iranian side and Boeing will benefit from it $ wise.

I agree w/ JJ - IranAir needs new planes/training

IranAir needs new planes and training rather than parts for an already absolete fleet of old Boeings and .....

The sale of new planes will also take away the impression that the sanctions are hurting the civilians and the west can concentrate on sanctions that really matter towards the regime.

Thanks for posting.  Signed w/ reservation.

Only 900 died, that’s not bad "head of transportation said".

IRI secretly buys weapon of mass destruction, they can buy secretly airplane part too, but they don’t.

In past 30 years how many were execute by IRI, how many died on unsafe rods built by IRI?

I will sing any petition to uncover this blood sucking and double face Islamic government but not to cover it.  U.S. use to give us any airplane we wanted no question asked we turn our back to them now we have to beg for parts! Ahmadinegad said sanctions are good for Iran now let people decide.

Islam believes in going backward so use donkey or come up with better pray or start paying for ticket  in Salaavat.

I hope this is a joke. 

Signed and thanks for your effort

I respectfully disagree with Farmarz and HG.

While not knowing any of the specifics nor have read any of the accidents investigation in Iran, the lack of spare parts, scheduled maintenance and testing plays a big role in avaition accidents. Many of the initial reports of those accidents in Iran has pointed out to emergency landing and/or diversion which usually is as a result of equipment failure or weather.

Also, if newer aircraft for Sepah & Basij means a safer air transport for the ordinary people, then I am all OK with that. We can't be punishing the ordinary people in order to might (and I emphasize on might) be hurting Sepah.

Mehrdad

Thank you

Thank you for the link. I signed it.

take one: so the logic is

take one: so the logic is that because of the sanction of domestic airplane parts, the iranian aviation personnel have lowered their standard of safety for the flights and there are more airplane crashes.  otherwise, if incompetence is not a cause of these crashes and sanctions have an effect on aviation, then we should see more planes grounded.

take two: the iranian governement (notably ahmaghi and seyed ali) have said that sanctions have zero effect on iran and iranians.  in their words: hech.  now, they're sending their lap poodles on the internet blaming iranian deaths on sanctions.

take three: iran is boasting that it will have nuclear power in five years, will be sending astronauts into space, is building fighter jets, state-of-the-art submarines, but cannot afford to build domestic planes or afford to replace american fleet of 30 years ago.

take four: the crocodile was begging at the street corner and was saying: "be man badbakht marmoolak komak konid."

I agree with Faramarz

Most of IranAir problems are result of mismanagement. Focusing on lifting sanctions and writing these petitions as if west is responsible for these crashes helps IRI with its propaganda.

ترحم بر پلنگ تیز دندان، ستمکاری بود بر گوسفندان

The only thing that the lifting of the sanctions will accomplish is that Sepah and Basij will be provided with new aircrafts to move around the country.

The problem with IR’s domestic aviations, aside from the old aircrafts is the complete lack of organization, management, maintenance, adherence to strict safety guidelines and respect for human life. Just look at the fatality rate on the Iranian roads. Who is to blame for that? Also note that Iran Air’s international flights do not have the same issues as the domestic ones.

The West has every right to no to sell its goods and know-how to a hostile regime. And one would think that the Regime with its network of smugglers should be able to find Boeing spare parts with no problems.

If the Regime is so self sufficient and technologically capable, as they claim, then why don’t they build high speed rail all over Iran and show the West that the sanctions are not hurting them?

I disagree

the profit and the parts will end up in the hands of the Sepah (IRGC).  None of the intended benefits will come out of this.  The regime will use it to its own end.  The best approach is to let the sanctions stay, Perhaps Iranair should cease to exist and the aviation industry should cease to exist in Iran.  If the regime is so self sufficient, let them build it up themselves.  But the West should not help this regime stay in power.  and dont tell me this saves lives.  the regime has killed more people, hundreds of thousands more, but its other failed actions.  Iranians want to fly, take KLM or Air France.

why not join the already 32,000+ strong campaign?

//www.causes.com/causes/562669-stop-sanctions...

I couldn't agree more

Lift these sanctions! 

The IRI must also lift the ban on fuel sales to Afghanistan. 

Done, Thanks for sharing...

Done, Thanks for sharing... Free Iran and Iranians.

done

Just did it.

SAVE LIVES!

The U.S. should allow the sale of civilian aircraft. It will not strengthen the Islamic Republic or pose any threat to the international community. It will only SAVE LIVES!