MOJAHEDIN

MM: Good luck to you too. I

MM: Good luck to you too. I have no idea what you're talking about...good luck any way...lol

Rea

how do you come up with this stuff. These sentences must feel gooooood, after pound and half of weed but is beyond meaningless. It is utterly useless . You must be on left bank in Paris somewhere.

Oktaby

Wow, dramatic !

It's just that the world isn't about to turn upside down because of MEK being taken off the list. 

Let them be. People's objectives change, so organizations change too. 

I'm no fan of the MEk.....

but, parsi, and his stooges at NIAC NEVER, EVER criticize their mullah paymasters......it's always America's, Israel, or MEK's fault!!!!

these bufoons are a joke!- they claim to represent the interests of iranian-americans! yeah right, their only interests are that of the mullahs and the big checks they cash.

the trend is always the same......I'd be shocked if these mercenaries ever criticize the akhoonds for their 32 years of crimes against iran and it's people 

Ari

Do you have tangible evidence that "solidify the worst elements of the IRI..." is not the agenda and objective (I'm referring to actions over the past 35 or so years, not statements and slogans of the state department and several presidents?

This is similar kind of support NIAC has enjoyed in general from the U.S. entities. NIAC is just not formally listed as a terrorist organization, and hates sharing the spotlight or the potential future loot.

Support MEK just to the right of rapist republic and NIAC just to the leff. Outside of Iran that is. Inside, support reformist. Keep brewing because it has worked rather well.

Oktaby

MEK is the only beast that can handle a worst beast called IRR!

What are you IRR supporters all riled up about? All you have to do is to change uniform and salute and rally behind the Rajavi's once they come to power! I am sure you will be given a blanket pardon!

Hamid jan: I would really appreciate if you leave the "khan" out

And I hope you have a good and safe trip.

In regards to your comment however, I know none of those examples have any thing to do with MEK nor the bombing of a Jewish center in Argentina that you brought up. My point in bringing those example was just to show that criminal and evil act does get carried out by most if not all nations/regimes and trying to justify a wrong act (legitimizing MEK) in the name and response to these act can have adverse consequences that is not good for future of any of us as citizen of this world.

I am with you all the way that not all (100%) of MEK members are traitors, nor every single Basiji/Pasdar is not a criminal thug with blood on his/her hand. Yet as an organization, much like Basij or Sepeh, they are not to be trusted at least until they have proven that they have changed course. MEK as it is has not shown any [real] change in strategy, ideology or direction.

I wholeheartedly agree with Farmarz that giving asylum and providing an avenue for resident of Camp Ashraf to reestablish themselves in the society is the first and best thing that can be done for these poor members. Then and only then, I fully support their full rights and participation in a future governments/system/resistance or otherwise.

safe journey

'Vahdat' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Vildemose - Thanks very much & good luck to you.

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Dear Mehrdad KHAN,

Sorry, I had a plane to catch and my next flight is really long!!

First off, the Iranian jet liner shooting was NOT
an act of terror, it was an accidental shooting. Ronald Reagan was
either too ignorant or too arrogant or perhaps both, for not admitting
it and apologizing immediately..... So please, don't bunch them up together with IRI's continuing funding, acts, plans, training and carrying out terror by their proxies.

Now all the other cases you listed in your response, have nothing to do with MEK or the Iranian people and their future. Can we let the Arabs fight their wars, American fight their own wars and just concentrate on Iranian's future government?

As I don't believe that 100% MEK are traitors, I equally think not 100% of basijis and pasdarans are all evil. There must be some in those groups that are too afraid to leave IRI. Their must be some who in their hearts, believe that IRI is gone the wrong path. There were evidence of some defections during the 2009 mass protests in Iran.

Listen,
all I'm saying is, we are all Iranians and we all should have a vote
in choosing Iran's next government. I believe in inclusion, not
exclusion.

As for those who suggest everyone should join NIAC, so they can vote to change it, it doesn't work like that. I joined NIAC in 2004, just a simple dues paying member has no voice. Truly, after 5 years of reading and following their strategy, I realized, everything they did was to benefit and guaranty IRI's longevity..

Hamid,

Geriatric Opposition!

It is one thing to move the MEK folks out of Camp Ashraf and give them asylum in the west and bring this whole chapter to a conclusion. But it is another thing to look at these people as an opposition or an alternative to the current criminal Regime in Iran. These are a bunch of people in their 50’s and 60’s that have no base of support inside Iran. At this point, they need healthcare, colonoscopy and blood pressure medicine and time to play golf in Florida, and not to get engaged in fighting the Regime.

This situation also illustrates that NIAC has failed to position itself as a viable opposition voice to the Regime despite their lobbying efforts. They need to do some serious soul searching and do some major course correction.

Ari: Allying with Khomein

Ari: Allying with Khomeini was the second stab

Allying with MEK=NIAC would be the third stab...

double post.

double post.

As disasterous as the CIA involvement in Mossadegh overthrow

Allying with MEK will be the second stab in Iran's back by the US, which the Iranian people will remember long after the IRI is gone.  Not even shortsighted-- blind!  With the Mossadegh overthrow there was at least a temporary advantage to the US, whereas an MEK alliance will be a liability: the IRI will gain as regime dissenters will either go silent or close ranks with the regime in defense of the nation. Like Saddam's invasion of Iran, this move will empower and solidify the worst elements of the IRI...just as a the regime was begining to fractrue and credible resistance was taking shape. Not even careless--dumb!

Molla: are you saying you

Molla: are you saying you don't support the criminal IRI?? Is that why you resort to slander and vitriolic name calling?

//www.rferl.org/content/article/1109662.html

IF Molla Nasserdink, a

IF Molla Nasserdink, a die-hard supporter of NIAC supports the criminal/ terrorist IRI and criminal Mousavi, does it follow that NIAC supports Terrorist/criminal IRI too?

Consider them as de-listed..it's a done deal

Dictating which Iranian organization or US-based community group, is a terrorist organization, and which is a lobby, and which is good, and which is bad is not the job of the US government, since it has nothing to do with the US government!

Agreed. MEK will be de-listed because the Obama adminstration has given up on the Green movement and Trita/Raf faction...oh, well....

Dear Hamid Agha: Good catch about Bill Clinton example :)

And if I maybe even more "mullah loghati" the first part of your reply "definition of terrorism??" is an example of such act and not the definition nor indicates Iran to have carried it out.

However, the second part "Terrorism" which I fully agree with, is a very good and accurate description of "terrorism" in my opinion.

Now the point I am trying to make in all of these:

Acts such as the bombing of Argentina's Jewish center, shooting down Iranian air-liner, killing Hamas leader in Dubai, a constant drone attack in Pakistan, etc all are carried out with the same intention and/or in retaliation of similar act. Likewise the support for Hezbollah/Hamas or Mehdi Army is really no different then US support for the violent group who fight on US behalf like Mojaheen in Afghanistan or the Iraqi group they purchased to do their fighting in Iraq.

So, we should condemn all acts of violence (I do) but do it universally and objectively.

However, I do see the IRI treatment of its own citizen to be precisely matching the definition of "terrorism" you have given here, thus I do call them terrorist in dealing with its own citizen.  This is particularly true when Iranians have remained peaceful in their opposition to the regime.

'Vahdat' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

P.S. As you may have noticed I have stopped calling MEK "terrorist" but they do have a clear and indisputable record of treason and undemocratic nature.

good suggestions, Mr. Bahmani

Yes, contrary to MEK which is a cult, joining NIAC is very easy and I agree where you wrote:"

To Approve/Authorize or Disapprove/De-Authorize NIAC, you have to join it, by paying or getting a free membership when they have that kind of drive, and then object or support it's actions by voting as your membership entitles you to do.

Trita/NIAC can do NOTHING without the votes and approval of the members of NIAC. If you don't like what Trita/NIAC does and says you need to put down your $70 and join NIAC to stop it. It's actually cheap.

Today, the majority of NIAC members seem to think that fighting the MEK getting de-listed as a terrorist organization by the US, will somehow affect the freedom movement in Iran.

If you disagree with this premise, then what you do is join NIAC and press your opinion as a member, and hope to convert/convince a majority of the members.

What the MEK should actually be doing now is to join NIAC and press for NIAC membership to get off it's back."

Bring the MEK into Sunlight

I support ANY effort that brings the MEK out of the shadows and into the sunlight so that they can be properly scrutinized.

Those that like the MEK should be free to, those that don't should be free to confront the MEK with their accusations and receive a response.

As much as we'd like to think that "Uncle Sam" is our Uncle too, he isn't, and this is unfortunately not the job of the US government.

Juts like opposing the Iranian government's failed and bad policies and behaviors, this is unfortunately, for those of you who'd rather farm out the job of resisting bad government to others, OUR job.

Dictating which Iranian organization or US-based community group, is a terrorist organization, and which is a lobby, and which is good, and which is bad is not the job of the US government, since it has nothing to do with the US government!

But it has everything to do with Iranians and is therefore OUR job! As FREE Iranians it is OUR job to determine which groups we collectively approve of and authorize, and which groups we collectively disapprove of and must therefore de-authorize, to represent us and our thoughts on matters.

To Approve/Authorize or Disapprove/De-Authorize NIAC, you have to join it, by paying or getting a free membership when they have that kind of drive, and then object or support it's actions by voting as your membership entitles you to do.

Trita/NIAC can do NOTHING without the votes and approval of the members of NIAC. If you don't like what Trita/NIAC does and says you need to put down your $70 and join NIAC to stop it. It's actually cheap.

Today, the majority of NIAC members seem to think that fighting the MEK getting de-listed as a terrorist organization by the US, will somehow affect the freedom movement in Iran.

If you disagree with this premise, then what you do is join NIAC and press your opinion as a member, and hope to convert/convince a majority of the members.

What the MEK should actually be doing now is to join NIAC and press for NIAC membership to get off it's back.

This is called healthy freedom, and that offers free debate and free discussion. It comes from engaging in fair dialogue and allowing each side to make it's points and agreeing to make a decision when all the facts are in.

Unfortunately there is a thing called PRIDE that has to be removed and pushed aside for MEK to join NIAC, and for NIAC members to agree to listen to the MEK argue for de-listing.

This is all a part of growing up and taking mature responsibility for your life as a free people.

Right now, I hope that everyone can see how much PRIDE and OUTRAGE is still in the mix, and how far we are far from this kind of level headedness.

We will never be TRULY free until we can ALL agree the we might not agree with each other, and that there is no one single right non-modifiable way to do things, and that self governance is a constant process of trial and error and adjustment.

Anyone who says they absolutely know the one single best way, is selling something.

Can you proof it

With regard to NIAC, here some folks keep saying Dr. Parsi is a lobbyist for the IRI - Do you have any proof to support that?

Dear Mehrdad KHAN,

For some reason, your question reminded me of former president Clinton!! Bill Clinton: "Your honer, can you define sexual intercourse"? lol

Definition of terrorism??

This is just one case, okay.
Do you remember Argentina's Jewish center
bombing in 1994? Google is just littered with
articles, documentaries....etc I just picked one, the most liberal of all medias, MSNBC, so nobody would say "Oh those are the Neo Cons"

//www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9983810/ns/world_news-...

Just a few weeks ago, defense minister of Iran was asked to leave Bolivia, because of an arrest warrant
for him by Argentina....

Terrorism:

It sounds close to what you admitted IRI is engaged in, against his own people, right?

Dear Hamid Agha:

Last time you mistook my opposition for MEK as support for IRI, it ain't so.  But you may have already made your mind and nothing may change that in that regard.

However, regarding your question about "terrorism", will you please define "terrorism" first so we have a base for our discussion and then identify supporters of terrorism?

As a foot note, for what ever is worth, I do believe IRI employs terrorism on its own citizens, that is instilling fear by the method of physical & emotional harm, long and unjust imprisonment, death and torture including rape in order to bring them into submission.

'Vahdat' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Dear Aryo Barzan: I am wondering…

Your support for all Iranians entitlement to have their say in a democratic peaceful manner is admirable and I support it completely.

However I am wondering, would you afford such entitlement for all, including the hardcore regime key members and its leaders?

You are absolutely correct, It is in fact time for the MKO leadership to provide answers to Iranians, particularly those who have lost loved ones in the Iran-Iraq war which MKO had indisputably sided with the regime of Saddam. It is also time for MKO leadership to prove their commitment to a democratic way of life by allowing free and unfettered access for resident of Camp Ashraf to choose their path and future including their leadership.

For many of us who oppose undemocratic forces, this includes the dictatorial IRI regime, to hijack any future democratic system Iran may have.

Cheers

'Vahdat' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

NIAC is the best spokesperson for TERRORISTS...

Gee wees, Islamic Republic (aka rapist) of Iran must be sweating bullets!! Iran's government has a 32 year track record of terror. IRI's resume, includes full support of many terrorist groups around the globe, founding, training and supplying Hezbollah, Mehdi Army, the
number 1 killer of U.S. troops in Iraq, biggest supporter of Hamas, just to mention a few.

Now, us, Iranian Americans have to be represented by NIAC, who's president is a paid agent of IRI? Dr. Parsi is a lobbyist for the most brutal regime since the Nazis, so I say "THANKS, BUT NO THANKS".
If we as one people want to unite to oppose this regime, then we must reconcile, and move on. If we want to dowel on the past, we will just stay there, in the PAST.

If some leaders of MEK are guilty of treason or any crime, let a democratic government and transparent court in a free Iran decide their fate.....

We all know IRI is not reformable, so if you can't fix it, then you must change it. Yes, the founders of this nation were called terrorists too, at one time, it wasn't that long ago that PLO was a terrorist organization. Former Israeli prime minister, Menachem Begin was on the list....De-listing of MEK,
will not GUARANTY them leadership of Iran. Give the Iranian people some
credit, they have the right to pick their own leaders. Why is NIAC, so anti American now??

I want to hear ONCE, only ONCE from NIAC, that IRI supports terrorism. I'm all ears

PS* Don't even try to say any of these former "TERRORISTS" didn't take refuge in enemy's land, we all know that.

Hamid

AB

The trouble with your argument is that we will be arguing with the MKO elite.  While the foot-soldiers are locked up in Ashraf being dictated in a cult that decides everything for members including marriage, divorce and raising one's children.

....

Lets look at the position of Mr Dana Rohrabacher on Taleban in Afghanistan. This is what he said about Taleban in early 1990's:

"Dana Rohrabacher voiced support for the Taleban when they seized power in the 1990s, visiting Afghanistan when it came under their control, saying that the Taliban would provide "stability", and eliminate threats to the United States.

He also claimed the Taliban "intend to establish a disciplined, moral society".

He said he believed complete Taliban control over Afghanistan would be a "positive development", that they were "devout traditionalists, not terrorists or revolutionaries", and that "sensationalist" media coverage of the Taliban's introduction of  Shria law was "nonsense".  

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Rohrabacher

Second time unlucky

Dear IRI lobbyists

If you did not win this argument the first time round what makes you think you can win it the second, the third or even the nth time.

The bottom line is that members of MKO are Iranian after all and are entitle to have their say in a democratic peaceful manner. No one is forcing you to support their agenda or vote for them. In fact on the contrary we invite you to engage with them and challenge their ideology and way of thinking in a peaceful democratic manner and prove how wrong they are. But those who want to support them or vote for them, however small minority and however much crazy we think there are, still are entitle to their(WRONG) choice. At the end of the day the winner will be determined trough the ballet box and whoever has the most vote will form a government

In fact I am beginning to wonder, where so much fear comes from. If MKO is as unpopular as some suggest and Iranian people regard them as enemy. Then why are you so scared of them talking and showing their true face.

Isn’t now about the high time for the leadership of this group to provide some answers to our questions and prove that they are not the traitors we all think they are? Or may be you do not trust People of Iran and do not think that they can make the right decision and need a Vallie to decide for them who is good or bad

Now Mate, please do not even attempt to open the terrorism and violence Pandora’s box as if we are to go trough that root then the IRI has by far more blood(both Iranian and foreign) on its hand than all the opposition groups put together.

Furthermore if you were have as intelligent as you claim to be you should know by now that the last thing US Administration have ever cared about when supporting or condemning a group was their record as terrorists. As we all remember one of the deadliest terrorist groups in the world (IRI) was getting all its founding’s from US and had and still has the support of Capital Hill. On the other hand many legitimate freedom fighters where ignored by the administration and even obstacles were thrown in their path because their aims were against US interests and its foreign policy. A good example of which would be Salvador Allende and Dr Mohammad Mosaddegh So friendship with US government should be the last thing to be regarded as a reference to measure a group or individual’s level terrorism

Finally before some of you start crying foul, I should emphasise that I am all for putting individual accused of treason and crime against Iranian people to trial any day.

It is not important if that individual is Khaneme-ey, Rajavi, AN, or Rasmanjaani. If there is evidence against them they have to be accountable in a court of law and punished accordingly if found guilty

But what I am absolutely against, is mob justice and blank discrimination against a section of out fellow countrymen just because of their idiology.

This piece was meant as information.

Make up your own minds, but I say the USA will be in big trouble if they support the mek.  The kind of headache that follows when you back a failure and distance yourself from the goal of regime change.

This will likely secure IRI, like the imposed war with Iraq did and they will repay it back with serious blows to Americans.

This is a choice between identical evils. I say neither

Both NIAC and MEK want the best for Iran and Iranians!?!?

The difference between the two is that one represents the current regime (NIAC) and the other is hoping to rule Iran with a new foreign intervention (MEK). This is a choice between identical evils. I say neither     

Amir Normandi

something is not right

Members of NIAC are well familiar and recognized by the Iranian people abroad. Not only they did not harm Iranians but tried all the way to help Iranians. For those that equate NIAC with MEK, must be either ignorant or being paid by some kind of organization. We must watch Fred. He is not trustable