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01-Jul-2011
In the 10 years that I have lived in Washington, I have never seen lobbyists for al-Qaeda parade through the halls of Congress. I have not seen any events on Capitol Hill organized by Hamas. And I have not seen any American politicians take campaign contributions from the Islamic Jihad.
But the Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK), an organization with the blood of Americans and Iranians alike on its hands, freely does all of these things, despite being a designated foreign terrorist organization by the U.S. government.
And in a matter of weeks, this terrorist group may succeed in getting removed from the terrorist list -- not as a result of any change of heart -- but as a result of an unprecedented multi-million dollar media and lobbying blitz.
If al-Qaeda or any other terrorist organization were holding fundraisers in DC, lobbying Congress, or holding press conferences at the National Press Club, the FBI, Homeland Security, and local law enforcement would be all over it.
Not so with the MEK. There, law enforcement seems nowhere to be found. In fact, a prominent spokesperson for the MEK terrorist group was hired by Fox News in the mid-2000s to serve as their on-air terrorist analyst. Go figure.
Since early January 2011, the MEK has spent millions of dollars on lobbyists, PR agents and communications firms to build up pressure on Secretary Hillary Clinton to take the group off of the terrorist list. Their argument is that the MEK rejected violence and terrorism in 2001 and as a result should be de-listed.
But this is not true, according to the FBI. A recently disclosed FBI report from 2004 reveals that the group continued to plan terrorist acts at least three years after they claimed to renounce terrorism.
No one should be surprised -- not even DC's "unwitting members of Congress" -- as the FBI calls the group's supporters on Capitol Hill. The State Department has documented the MEK's disturbing record: killing Americans and Iranians in terrorist attacks; fighting for Saddam Hussein against Iran and assisting Saddam's brutal campaign against Iraq's Kurds and Shia; its "cult-like" behavior; the abuses and even torture it commits against its own members; and its support for the U.S. embassy takeover and calls for executing the hostages.
And let's not forget, the MEK suppresses and holds captive its own members - more than 70 percent of the MEK members in Camp Ashraf in Iraq are held there against their own wishes, according to a RAND Corporation study.
But even if the MEK could be believed, the reality is that they are currently on the terrorist list and, as a result, they must be subject to U.S. terrorism laws. Simply put, the laws must be enforced -- without exception.
The State Department's review of their terrorism status, which is due to be completed by August of this year, must be conducted without the essentially illegal pressure tactics the MEK currently is employing through lobbyists, lawmakers and hired former officials.
If the group is taken off the list, not as a result of an objective review, but by virtue of their lobbying prowess, several repercussions can be envisioned.
First, the desire to de-list them in Washington seems partially driven by gravitation towards covert military action against Iran. Neither sanctions nor diplomacy have yielded the desired results on the nuclear issue, and some in Washington are advocating using the MEK to conduct assassination and sabotage campaigns inside Iran.
As one former State Department official put it, the "paradox is that we may take them off the terror list in order for them to do more terror."
Much like Ahmad Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress, the permanent leader of the MEK, Maryam Rajavi, seeks to return from decades of exile as the anointed President of Iran. And freed of the terrorist designation, there is little reason to believe the MEK won't turn its lobbying apparatus -- which puts Chalabi's to shame -- to obtain U.S. funding and to promote war with Iran. In fact, some members of Congress already refer to the MEK as the "real Green movement." Even more shocking is that top former U.S. officials have called on the U.S. to recognize Rajavi as the rightful President of Iran.
Second, de-listing the MEK would spell disaster for the Iranian pro-democracy movement. According to prominent Green movement figures Mohsen Kadivar and Ahmad Sadri:
Removing the MEK from the FTO at this juncture would embolden Iran's hardliners to intensify their repression and discredit the Green Movement by implying that it is somehow connected to the widely detested MEK terror group. Furthermore, supporting the MEK would provide the Iranian government with the specter of a foreign-based threat that could be exploited to heal key fractures within the system, increase the number of Iranians who would rally around the flag, and facilitate the suppression of the indigenous political opposition.
If you recognize the necessity of a non-violent campaign against the Iranian regime, the last thing you want is to have the U.S. government support and fund one of the most violent and undemocratic Iranian organizations -- and, to make matters worse, to do so in the name of the Iranian Green movement.
Third, de-listing will put the rising Iranian-American community in a state of shock. In the last decade, an impressive civic awakening has occurred in this successful but previously politically silent community, with dozens of new groups being formed with the aim of contributing to the American democracy and providing the Iranian Americans in the U.S. with a voice. A U.S. funded and supported MEK will ensure a return to the pre-1997 era. Back then, in the eyes of most U.S. lawmakers, the voice of Maryam Rajavi was the voice of the entire Iranian-American community.
Now, by buying off officials to pry open the floodgates of U.S. financial and political support, Rajavi and her small but vocal minority threaten to simultaneously drown out the voices of the rest of the Iranian-American community, co-opt the voice of Iran's true opposition, and carry the U.S. down the path of war yet again.
First published in HuffingtonPost.com.
Dr. Trita Parsi is the 2010 recipient of the Grawemeyer Award for Ideas Improving World Order and the author of the forthcoming book "A Single Roll of the Dice – Obama's Diplomacy with Iran," by Yale University Press, February 2012.
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UNHCR report: Human Rights Abuses Inside MEK Camps
by MM on Sun Jul 10, 2011 04:02 PM PDT
Human Rights Abuses Inside the MEK Camps - UNHCR reportSee United Nations High Commision on Refugees (UNHCR) reports on(//www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,,HRW,COUNTRYREP,IRN,,45d085002,0.html) MKO Methodology, Rise of Dissent inside the MKO, Compulsory Divorce, Security Clearances, Human Rights Abuses in the MKO Camps and Testimonies from MKO members who escaped MKO persecutions.
This is what is being shoved our throats in place of IRI: "Replacing one undemocratic regime that abuses its own people with an undemocratic cult that tortures its own members is a recipe for disaster."
Shazdeh
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sun Jul 10, 2011 03:27 PM PDTGroups yes but no to criminals. I am all for the right of all points of view including Marxist. I am not for the right of criminals who keep their followers prisoner. Do you understand the difference.
No nation allows criminals to go loose. They are examined and bsed on the level of crime and evidence then either prosecuted or not. If prosecuted a court determines their guilt. If found guilty a judge sentences them according to law. Often there are pardons offered if the situation merits it. Rajavi are criminals and there is sufficient evidence to prosecute them. I do not think IRI has a qualified system. However post IRI an Iranian court must judge them and decide what to do.
The rest of lower rank MEK are different. In many cases there is either no or insufficient evidence to prosecute. They should and will be let go. MEK as an organization must be disbanded because of its past actions.
مجاهد یا غیر مجاهد
Shazde Asdola MirzaSun Jul 10, 2011 01:57 PM PDT
We should support the rights of all opposition groups to freedom of speech and freedom from persecution ... as long as they reject actions against basic Human Rights and International Law.
Shuting up, jailing and killing of opposition members are the key desires of IRI, and anyone who supports such "terrorist" agenda is likely an IRI agent!
West and Iran
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sun Jul 10, 2011 02:33 AM PDTNether West nor Israel is monolithic. For example Nixon and his brand of Republicans supported the Shah. Nixon was pro Shah and loyal to him to the end. The NeoCon both Western and Israeli want a weak MKO run Iran.
The Europeans tend to be more on the side of Islam. Specially the British. Some European an-tellectuals read "Sartre" were influenced by Shariati. They really thought Islam is good for them. France is just realizing Islam may not be a great as they thought. However the left wing in France is 100% behind Islam not just for Iran but for themselves! We have to therefore say F*** West and stop listening to them.
Regarding Iranin an-tellectuals. The self declared political activists tend to be Islamist. The real intellectuals like physicists; doctors and engineers are secular. They outnumber the poltical types by better than 100 to 1 but tend to be silent. We need an organization not NIAC that would represent the vast majority of us. The real secular intellectuals who are highly educated and non Islamic. Some of us are Muslims but not fanatical. Unfortunately our voices are drowned by the Islamists and the MKO. The one thing I learned is to pay no attention to the West. Or to the political Iranian an-tellectuals not now not in the future.
West wants IRI for Iran.
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Jul 09, 2011 09:12 PM PDT1 They betrayed shah and funded khomeini
2 They started Iraq war to solidify khomeini in power
3 They created this false image of Iran standing up to west over legitimate nuclear program. Secretly it is of no concern.
4 They are supporting a unpopular MEK
At every twist and turn they are playing first their own intellectuals and then iranians. Every action they do gives a new lease of life to IRI with the unstated goal of keeping islam in power in government. IRI accomplishes all their agendas, by firstly keeping iran backwards and weak.
There is no other plan than to keep islam in govt, as for the muslim brotherhood and al-quaeda they are busy doing their job of spreading islam in govt in north africa and libya.
As for Israel, the last thing they want is islam in govt, but they really have no choice but follow whatever USA decides. They gave up on RP because they know that is the last thing the USA wants.
The USA wants someone to keep iran backward and weak, neo-colonialsm. That would be the mullahs, 1st choice, other mullahs in green movement 2nd choice and mek for 3rd place just to make sure iranians don't have a hope in hell of becoming free again. The idea of USA/Israel bombing iran is a total joke, mullahs are their #1 choice that would displace their 1st and 2nd main choices.
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by Mola Nasredeen on Sat Jul 09, 2011 08:59 AM PDTThe thought of Mojahedeen representing Iranian Americans is scary in itself.
One may asks why?
We will be watching a parade of Mojahedeen's spokemen (women) on US TVs posing as the voice of Iranians living in the United States.
Iranian Americans are mostly secular muslims and don't want a religious organization to be pushed down their throats by Israeli lobby and others in Washington.
Proof
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sat Jul 09, 2011 03:21 AM PDTThe proof I have is cricumstantial. People like Bolton and Guiliani do not act on their own. They are well known spokespersons for AIPAC. Just like NIAC is suspected of being at least an intermediary to IRI.
So my proof is in their actions. Why do American politicians suddenly prop up MKO? I am guessing it is because they are told so. I go by instinct and it has served me well. My instinct tells me that and is supported by actions.
Most international stuff is done in secrecy and is hard to prove. So this is my guess; take it or leave it. It matters not to me. I hope I am wrong because I rather it was not true. I would prefer if Israel put its support behind RP a known friend.
VPK or MKO?
by Simorgh5555 on Sat Jul 09, 2011 02:25 AM PDTYour acronyms are similar and so are your mind set. Both of you are fanatics. Look how much time you are dedicating to this subject alone. Look at the news articles which I have posted and talk about the executions and imprisonment of bloggers. Like any NIAC crony- which you have partially admitted you are- there is only one thing that concerns you: The MEK is getting political clout and the NIAC is jealous because its wings have been clipped and no one is listerning to them.
You don't care about solutions. Just 'AIPAC' this and 'AIPAC' that. And even if AIPAC is giving politcal support to the MEK you always single handedly pick them out and not the other aid and assistance it receives from governments across Europe and America including anti-Israeli Left wing 'Socialist' politicians. You did say you are a socialist last time? Am I correct or are you still right-wing when it comes to Iran? Confused? YOu should be.
Again, you have failed single handedly to obtain any evidence that AIPAC has financially supported the MEK to the tunes of millions of dollars every year. I don't live in the USA but isn't there an equivalent of the Freedom of Information Act like in Britain or a registers book where lobyists must declare money to politicians and organisations they have paid to? Prove it. You are making the same accusations as Mola Nasradeen, the IR and other Islamist thugs who come on this site. In cotrast I have proivded you with solid evidence of NIAC complicity with the Islamic Republic.
Back your words with documented proof or do you just enjoy meaningless confabulation?
MKO
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Sat Jul 09, 2011 02:03 AM PDTThe reason MEK will lead to another disaster is it strengthens IRI. So I should say it will lead to the continuation of IRI. MEK itself has little support in Iran. But outside Iran with millions of AIPAC and USA money it is gaining some ground among the naive. It will never win a war against IRI. But it will allow IRI to brand all its opposition as "traitors". Then scare people right back into their arms. That is why and how MKO will lead to not another but the same regime.
HAM
by Simorgh5555 on Sat Jul 09, 2011 01:31 AM PDTAgreed with you 100%. I am quite fond of VPK but his arguments lack logic at times. The NIAC does nothing but make general statements about human rights but rarely discusses specific cases. How on earth could it not mentiin 300 people have been givem death sentence? It could have at least made a politically neutral statement commemorating Neda Soltani and simply say that she died 'under tragic circumstances' without elaborating on how she was murdered in cold blood by the Basiji thugs. You see they don't want to embarrass their benefactors in the Terrorist Regime.
ON the one hand people like VPK say that the MEK are has beens and do not pose a threat because nobody likes them. On the other hand they are shouting out how supporting the MEK will lead to another catastrophic regime. This is a wholly inconsistent argument.
Simorgh5555
by ham1328 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 07:01 PM PDTI agree with you, why NIAC is paying so little attention to human rights in Iran, but so much time and energy on MEK issue? Why so little is said and done about the dire conditions of political prisoners, rapes, mass executions and absolute repression in Iran? When do you remember their last petition drive to voice outrage on these matters? Why NIAC didn't spend much efforts to commemorate Neda's anniversary, a global icon of Iranians struggle for freedom? Issues like this are far more important to Iranians today, than delisting of an almost forgotten group. If MEK is a small minority in Iran, then why NIAC is so worried about their delisting? I also have a problem believing AIPAC would support and fund an Islamist/socialist/terrorist cult to replace the current regime in Iran, it's just too far fetched. You shall see, whether we sign and send a Trillion petitions to the hill, the administration's mind is already made up. MEK will more than likely be removed from a terrorist organization list, just to scare the Iranian regime. We shall see the outcome soon. Meanwhile, we as one people must be decisive and exercise our right to participate in choosing a free and civilized government for Iran. That might be easier said than done, because, two thirds of Iran's population is 30 years or younger and have never seen any other type of government but IRI.
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by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:17 PM PDTWhat do the leaders of the Green Movement
think about Mojahedeen:
"At the same time, within the Iranian Diaspora, some have sought to usurp leadership of Iran's indigenous pro-democracy movement. This has alarmed the leaders of the Green Movement in Iran. Mir Hossein Mousavi warned against "international surfers" seeking to wield their own axe in the furnace of the Green movement in his last communiqué that was issued before he was put under house arrest on Feb. 29.
First and foremost among such groups is Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK), an organization that has been designated by the U.S. government as a foreign terrorist organization (FTO). But despite its obvious threat to global security, the MEK could be taken off the State Department's Terror List within the next week. If this happens, it promises to spell disaster for the pro-democracy movement in Iran, and will be a devastating setback in the country's attempts to move forward.
The MEK has no political base inside Iran and no genuine support on the Iranian street because it was long based in Iraq under Saddam Hussein's patronage. It lost any semblance of credibility it might have had inside Iran due to its opposition to the Shah's regime when its troops fought on behalf of Iraq toward the end of the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war. Hence, it would behoove U.S. policymakers to be skeptical of the boasts of MEK lobbyists regarding the extent of this group's popularity inside Iran"
//www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/03/26/iran_green_movement/index.html
VPK
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:19 AM PDTHonestly, I think Mola's habit has rubbed off on you. Labeling people MEK, AIPAC or Zionist is another trait of the Islamic Republic and for people who are peddling worthless arguments. Yiur reference to the me supporting partition of Iran in another related thread when I was merely comparing Palestinian and Arabs seeking independence is so ludicrous that it does not warrant a reply.
Yes Nera does matter. Don't you and your NIAC cronies have any other subject to pick on other than the MEK? Look at how much kilobytes and time you guys are dedicating to this issue but have nothing to say when it comes to the appaling human rights which is occuring and scalding all those who dare flag this issue up as Zionists or AIPAC.
I think your political.views are inconsistent and confused. One day you are supporting a republic, the next a monarchy. You mentioned you were against the war in Iraq to begin with - possibly suggesting you support it now. You also have mentioned you oppose military action but then would welcome airstrikes.
As you say Obama will eventually attack the IR and I believe despite your public opposition to it you privately welcome it and you will be the first to return to Iran and enjoy freedom from the mullahs.
How would
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:07 AM PDTsupporting MEK have helped Neda? Shameful use of the tragic death of her to advance the MEK cause. If MEK were in power would there be fewer deaths?
Now on the other blog Mr Simogrh is advocating disintegration of Iran!!
It is telling me what Israel / AIPAC has in mind for us. Given the situation I have little choice but to support NIAC. At least they want to keep Iran in one piece. And do not take orders from our Israel. I tried hard to offer a hand of friendship to them. But instead got spat on. Thanks I learned my lesson. No more hands of friendship from me to the dear Israeli. I still am no fan of Palestinians. Let them fight it out and I hope Iran just watches from side. Both Israel and Palestinians deserve each other.
Mola
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:57 AM PDTApart from the MEK, 'Ieanian Americans' are also concerned about the huge number of executions every year and that 300 Iranians have recently been given an execution order. I see the NIAC website has not updater its 'Human Rights' section since late June and neither has there been any policy statement commemorating the anniversary of the death of Neda Agh Soltan who was beloved and cherished by Iranians all over the world. Why do you think that is in your opinion? Not to say too much to embarass the Islamic Reublic.
As an Iranian patriot why are there no colours of the Iranian flag?
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by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:09 AM PDTNIAC: Tell the U.S. Government to Say NO to Mujahedin
Sometime in August, Secretary Clinton will decide whether to keep the Mujahedin-e Khalq on the US’s terrorist list. This is a decision that will have significant implications for the Iranian-American community, the United States and the people of Iran.
https://secure3.convio.net/niac/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=187&autologin=true&JServSessionIdr004=ytbqb4h1o7.app332b
I bet you all, if IRI is
by ham1328 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 09:27 AM PDTI bet you all, if IRI is replaced by another dectatorship, NIAC, will be there to lobby for them!
کوروش بیدار شو وقت خواب نیست
MMFri Jul 08, 2011 07:50 AM PDT
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvAtkDM5-7I&feature=player_embedded#at=21
Hamed Fard & Navid Bagheri - Kooroshe Saghir
کوروش بیدار شو وقت خواب نیست
آهنگ زیبا ی کوروش صغیر!
کوروش پاشو ببین کشور تو راه مهیبیه/ پاشو بنگر که ملت توی خواب عمیقیه/ببین! به دنیا داریم میگیم که ما برتریم/ در حالی که ما ها همه یه مشت گدا پروریم/ ببین یه جوون از ته دلش بهت داره میگه/ اینجا لواط و زنا جزئی ار کردار نیکه!/ کوروش ناموس فروشی روی دور قیمته/ کوروش ملت گفتار نیکش فحش و غیبته/کوروش تو رو تحقیر رو ویران کردند/ اسمت خط خورده از تقویم ایران رسما/راستی.. مقبرت با سیلو بلا ها رفته/ عکست فقط سر در قلیون سراها نصبه/ کوروش ارامش خیلی وقته زندانی شده/ نماد فروهر نماد شیطانی شده!/کوروش داره بر میگرده عقب زمونه/ کوروش راستی میدونستی خدا عرب زبونه؟!/ یعنی جهنم جای ماست که فارسی خوندیم!/ دنیا پیشرفت کرد ما دوره ی دارسی موندیم/ کوروش خلیجتو خلیج عرب نامیدند/ ولی بازم عرب رو تو وطن راه میدن/ همون عرب ها ای که هستند تشنه به خونمون/همونا که دخترا رو کردند زنده به گورشون!/ هستند همسایه ایران ما روی کاغذ/ ولی دستشون با دست بیگانه ها تو یه کاسست
کوروش کجایی که ببینی دلا خونن همه درگیر یه لقمه نونن
حتی جوون های ایرانت دیگه هیچی از عشق نمیدونن
یه روز میاد که بجز یه نقشه چیزی از ایران باقی نمونه
کسایی که رفتن و جون دادند بخدا واسه ی بهشت نبوده
اینقدر درگیر شدیم که غیرت دیگه واسمون معنا نداره
کوروش بیدار شو وقت خواب نیست! شدیم طفلی که مادر نداره
هر کی میاد به اسم یه مادر یه چیزی از مون ور میداره
یه روز میاد که این ایرانی دیگه هیچی از خودش نداره
Simorgh
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jul 08, 2011 02:41 AM PDTI am not in a position to establish an army. Who do you think I am? Do I have 400 million bucks to spend! No I may have 400 $ but that is it and I need that to pay for my groceries this week.
If USA wants to make an army to go after IRI then it is their job not mine. All I say is that MEK is not it. The burden to create an army is on the USA not me. I am an individual with limited means. Best I may do is to warn the Americans of their folly.
What is so ironic is if Jimmy Carter had not betrayed Shah none of this would be necessary. America would not be in this bind. They *** it up and they need to fix it not me. I would if I could but I do not have a 500 billion dollar a year "defense" budget.
VPK
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 02:25 AM PDTI agree. fine condemn the MEK but the only caveat is to establish an alternative army. We must be united.
Simorgh
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jul 08, 2011 01:51 AM PDTI never said you were Jewish. In fact there is nothing wrong with being Jewish. It does not require one to be Jewish to be voicing the AIPAC position. In fact many of their supporters are not Jewish. Because AIPAC is bad for Jews.
I was also born to Islam and left it. I know many former Israeli officers. Most of them agree with my position. Israel will do well do ally with Iran. Not IRI but a strong Iran which has an intelligent foreign policy. MEK ain't it.
As for Iraq invasion I was against it initially. But seeing the Kurds freed of Saddam has got me on the fence. I am happy to see my Kurdish brothers and sisters free. It would not have happened if Saddam was still in power. So things are not that simple.
NIAC may be connected to IRI. In fact they probably are. But so what? They are not supporting IRI simply have contacts with them. If you want to remove IRI then you need to have contact with them.
If Israel were to get involved in removing IRI then it will back fire. We know IRI is using Israel as a boogyman so it is best for them to keep out. There are several ways to remove IRI:
VPK
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 01:37 AM PDTI can honestly tell you that I have never travelled to Israel. I am not Jewish and I was even born to this filthy religion of Islam which has been the bane of my life and many Iranians. I am not a politician, seeking political office or even a lobbyists of any kind. My anonymity would protect me from that so I have absolutely nothing to fear about being frank and forthright with you.
Furthermore, I have condemned like many Israelis and gentiles alike Israel's policies in the West Bank and Gaza. I have also condemned and even marched against the 2003 invasion of Iraq which AIPAC has supported. My political positions are fundamentally at odds with much of the mainstream Israeli lobbyists but I totally support her existence. If Israel would ever to be destroyed you can kiss Iran's aspirations for freedom goodbye. I am tired if the hypocrisy of Arabs who are the biggest aggressors in history and for that matter discriminate and kill more Muslims than Israel has ever done. I will rubbish and confront any Iranian who dares to call for the destruction of Israel because of what the Islamic aggressors have done to Iran.
That is Israel overand done with.
In respect of the MEK, I am.only regurgitating the same argumetns. But you don't have to be an Israeli agent to support military action against the Islamic Republic and if Israelis want to come on board and help us remove this cancer on Iran then great. Cyrus conveyed the Jews back to Jerusalem and it is nice to see them returning the favour. If Mahmoud Abbas and the Palestinians were to join in then even better. However, their allegiences are elsewhere. If great minds think alike then great.
Finally, I think your charge against me as being an AIPAC lobbyist is the same as saying that your half hearted support for regime change and your reluctance to do anything militarily in defiance of this scourge on Iran shows you are part and parcel of the IR. By wanting to give money to NIAC a group which is unequivocally linked to the IR then unfortunately you are showing your own true colours. You ignore all the email correspondence and the fact that people like Reza Aslan and Soraya Ulrich are members of this organisation. I have provided you with a mple evidencr of NIAC and IR complicity and so has Dr Kermanzadeh. However, csn you providbe me withh pure solid docuemntary evidence that the MEK has received in the tune of millions of.dollars from AIPAC for the last 33 years? This contradicts everthing that Trita Parsi said in his book Unholy Alliance. If anything it was Israel who allegedly supported the IR to prevent the real threat from Saddam emerging triumphant. Since Saddam was eliminated and the IR becoming stronger and filling the vacume of power in Iran, Israel has taken a serious interest of directtly eliminating the IR. And I will accept that it has over the last 10 yearrs given it.political, logistical and even financial.support but so does the EU and many Left Wing politicians such as Jeremy Corbyn.
I am afraid VPK jan simple labels of 'AIPAC', ZIONISTS etc and rexriminations do not wash.
VPK
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 01:28 AM PDTI can honestly tell you that I have never travelled to Israel. I am not Jewish and I was even born to this filthy religion of Islam which has been the bane of my life and many Iranians. I am not a politician, seeking political office or even a lobbyists of any kind. My anonymity would protect me from that so I have absolutely nothing to fear about being frank and forthright with you.
Furthermore, I have condemned like many Israelis and gentiles alike Israel's policies in the West Bank and Gaza. I have also condemned and even marched against the 2003 invasion of Iraq which AIPAC has supported. My political positions are fundamentally at odds with much of the mainstream Israeli lobbyists but I totally support her existence. If Israel would ever to be destroyed you can kiss Iran's aspirations for freedom goodbye. I am tired if the hypocrisy of Arabs who are the biggest aggressors in history and for that matter discriminate and kill more Muslims than Israel has ever done. I will rubbish and confront any Iranian who dares to call for the destruction of Israel because of what the Islamic aggressors have done to Iran.
That is Israel overand done with.
In respect of the MEK, I am.only regurgitating the same argumetns. But you don't have to be an Israeli agent to support military action against the Islamic Republic and if Israelis want to come on board and help us remove this cancer on Iran then great. Cyrus conveyed the Jews back to Jerusalem and it is nice to see them returning the favour. If Mahmoud Abbas and the Palestinians were to join in then even better. However, their allegiences are elsewhere. If great minds think alike then great.
Finally, I think your charge against me as being an AIPAC lobbyist is the same as saying that your half hearted support for regime change and your reluctance to do anything militarily in defiance of this scourge on Iran shows you are part and parcel of the IR. By wanting to give money to NIAC a group which is unequivocally linked to the IR then unfortunately you are showing your own true colours. You ignore all the email correspondence and the fact that people like Reza Aslan and Soraya Ulrich are members of this organisation. I have provided you with a mple evidencr of NIAC and IR complicity and so has Dr Kermanzadeh. However, csn you provide me withh pure solid docuemntary evidence that the MEK
Simorgh
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:57 AM PDTI am sure you would not sign it no suprirse. The petition I am talking about is opposing MEK in particular. It seems to me that you are the voice of AIPAC. I am sorry to be blunt but let us be honest. It makes it easier to communicate.
I am not an enemy of Israel. In fact want to prevent them from creating another Hamas. Or another Taliban. It is best for all of us to support RP. A strong pro Western Iran like we had during Shah is the best we can ask for so do it.
The MEK
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:48 AM PDTPersonally I would not sign such a petition condemning US support of the MEK without a commitment to regime change and support for military action. The 'do nothing' and 'negotiate with the mullahs' approach has been tried, tested and failed.
Those signing such a petition will be deemed irrelevant and without moral fortitude to end this regime.
Thanks for the
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:42 AM PDTpetition. It is very important to get non-Iranain friends to also sign it. I got 3 to sign it. Will give us more influence. US congress is the biggest brothel in town. They will listen to the loudest voice.
So far AIPAC has been screaming loudest along with their MEK buddies. We need to neutralize it and getting "WASP" type Americans with us helps. More the better. So get all your white American friends to sign it.
ham1328
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:54 AM PDTI know Saddam asked for USA permission to invade Kuwait. You don't need to write 3 pages. It is well know historical fact. I also think Kuwait got what is had coming for supporting the guy in the first place.
So what? Saddam was still an *** and so is the MEK and its apologists. What are you trying to prove? That Saddam was an ass? I already know that. That he was an idiot? I know that as well.
USA knew exactly what it was doing. It wanted to wreck Iraq and got Saddam in the trap. Once he invaded Kuwait USA had the excuse to blow him to bits and they did. Pretty tricky that Bush senior!
MM, Great posts! Thank you.
by Disenchanted on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:08 AM PDTA picture is worth thousands of words and a post is worth thousands of blogs!
MM, thank you for your post.
by ham1328 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:44 PM PDTMM, thank you for your post. MEK, dosen't have a living chance of winning Iranians hearts. At the same time, they must not be used by IRI supporters/lobbyists as a tool to quietly adding life to IRI. All IRI is doing, is buying time for his dying regime.
MM jaan: thanks for the link, sent it
by Bavafa on Fri Jul 08, 2011 06:41 AM PDT'Vahdat' is the main key to victory
Mehrdad