"then the messenger will say: "o my lord! truly my people took this QURAN for just foolish nonsense." (Quran 25:30).
1400 years of the book saved as a "holy" thing on the bookshelves & leaving Islam in the hands of bedouin Arabs, the scholars, Ayatoolas and etc. is the result of what Leila & what Ghazali said & what Khomeini did in Iran under the banner of Isalm. They all for sure going to meet GOD, the same with a 40 years who rapes a 9 years old under the banner of Islam! Without a doubt!
The defence believes without a doubt in the ridiclued verse's essence that:
"A spiritual relationship between man and woman is postulated as the indispensible basis of sexual relationship." Without such "love bound" humans are in the lowest of the low ("ASFAAl'E SAFELLIN," Quran 95:5). As the human's exclusive entity "the choice" is always ours! Be my guest, then the "old neighbor" dear!
A 9-year old having sex with a 40 year old??? I think that's worse than prostitution and pedophilia because you are allowed to do this by a religious prescription; not necesarily moral or ethical by or humanistic standards. Behaviors that are sanctioned by religion does not necessarily make them moral.
Putting up your daughters virginity for auction to the highest bidder is another example of immorality sanctioned by Islam.
"According to Leila Ahmed (1992), who traces the changes and varieties of discourses in the history of Middle Eastern Arabic women, it was in the Abbasid era that the word woman became almost synonymous to slave and object for sexual use. Marketing of women as commodities and objects for sexual use was an everyday reality in Abbasid society. It is no wonder that Muslim scholars of that period, such as al-Ghazali, mainly define women as sexual beings. This period was however constitutive for the formulation of Islamic law and thus had a profound impact up till today.
""Sabbah argues that: "Muslim culture has a built-in ideological blindness to the economic dimension of women, who are ordinarily perceived, conceived and defined as exclusively sexual objects. The female body has traditionally been the object of an enormous erotic investment, which has clouded (if not totally hidden) woman's economic dimensions" (1984: 16-17). In addition, it has led to the general eroticization of relations between the sexes. As a result of this, working outside the home by women is often experienced as erotic aggression.
Women are thus generally viewed as sexual beings. Whatever women do, they are first and foremost perceived as enticing bodies. They and their bodies seem to have only a sexual dimension. Working in the male public space is generally perceived as an erotic invasion. The male body, although sexual in the presence of a female body, has several dimensions, for instance, in the economic or political field.""
This is the most well known fact about the pre-Islam Arabia. The prectice of burying their newborn girls alive by the pre-Islamic Arabs was widespread among the lower and uneducated ranks of the Arabian society. Giving birth to a girl particulalrly in a family where there were not enough children to sustain their parents in an older age was considered a disgrace. This practice was not confined to Arabis (see Wiki reference) Obviously it was not systematic enough to make a whole generation vanish. These are only a few of a thousands of references.
"زنان شما كشتزار شما هستند پس از هر جا [و هر گونه] كه خواهيد به كشتزار خود [در]آييد و آنها را براى خودتان مقدم داريد و از خدا پروا كنيد و بدانيد كه او را ديدار خواهيد كرد و مؤمنان را [به اين ديدار] مژده ده"
Diagnosed by the dear fact finder on IC & frustrated with the inability to see the "truth" & by reading the "wild" statements such as:
"Where women can have sex with whomever and whenever they please without
their fathers, husbands, or brothers killing them based on [what some
may call] islamic teachings. Where women can divorce their husbands,
and where under the law men, women, and non-believers are treated
equally....
I will keep my eyes open for your listing of a few islamic nations where people enjoy similar freedoms as we do."
And further by not knowing what "name calling" & what "islamic nations" reall mean, this commentator is resting his "insanity on IC" defence! Good luck with the "persisting global Jahl."
The best response to those hateful people who keep berating the great religion of islam is for you and other nice islamic folks to list a few muslim-governed countries where women are free to live their lives however they wish. Where women can have sex with whomever and whenever they please without their fathers, husbands, or brothers killing them based on [what some may call] islamic teachings. Where women can divorce their husbands, and where under the law men, women, and non-believers are treated equally....
I will keep my eyes open for your listing of a few islamic nations where people enjoy similar freedoms as we do.
"This holy verse was communicated to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) at a time when bedouin Arabs were so ashamed of raising a daughter that they were burying their newborn female babies live."
Really? Prove it, please if you will, using other sources than Muslims. Have you ever thought, that if that was the case, how did the population of Arabia survive into the 7th century?
Islam sees women as a sexual organ without any feelings, humanty, individuality, or brain.
It Objectifies women; strips down her humanity and dignity to a baby-producing machine and pleasure-giving sex toy and a obedient Kolfat. The only time women get any respect is as mother and that is not genuine either because the rest of her being as a human being is trashed and minimized.
No other relgion IMH views women as cattles to be herded or property of a man. No other religion exploits women's as mere pieces of meat/slave.
Rather they are mothers, sisters, & wives. Reject the western culture's demotion of women as sex tools. There is nowhere in Quran one finds the title of "Holy" for the book itself. That is a man made title. However, that book reminds me & you the "holiness" of the female womb (Quran 4:1) where a despicable drop of fluid emitted from between the male loins & bones there turns to a fetus & to go on. Let's then just remind ourselves of our own creations & where we are going to end up finally & let's leave Quran alone if do not like it & let's live the way fits us the best in full ignorance, the "Transparent Jahl," that is!
You must read this within its socio-cultural context
This holy verse was communicated to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) at a time when bedouin Arabs were so ashamed of raising a daughter that they were burying their newborn female babies alive. What do you expect to have been decreed in the holy Quran: an equal opportunities bill for sexes? The reference/analogy to the field to be harvested is to do with fertility and the need/respect for procreation. Please think before talk.
Mullah-kosh:
Liberals and muslims ALWAYS justify such idiotic views and even worse by reminding us that centuries ago Christians used to ….
We have had many 'honor killings' right here in America and so far not a single liberal group, including women’s rights groups, has voiced their opposition to such barbaric acts.
First of all, as a woman who has half the brain of a man, how dare you question Quran, and its holy verses? Secondly, as our good muslim, and IR supporters always say, you are just taking this out of context. When you put it in its proper context, the sentence you have here has a totally different meaning.
Now, I am waiting on our good IR supporters(thugs) to come and tell us how to f**king put this in context. I am really curious to see how the meaning of this sentence changes with the "context" around it. On Women's Day, I will use that page of Quran that has this verse to wipe my ass with. That is all Quran is good for. That, and using its pages for my dog's toilet training.
A real work of art only by a quarter - an earthy woman
I like the left bottom corner of your poster - a real work of art on its own, an earthy woman. Quran, Bible and Torah are fictional books – you should not take them too seriously.It does not do your art any good.
Yusuf Ali:
Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear God. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.
Zohurul Hoque:
Your wives are a farm for you; so come to your farm as-and-when you please, and take steps for yourselves. And revere Allah; and know that you are going to meet Him. And give glad tidings to the Believers.
T. J. Irving:
Your wives are [meant] for you to cultivate: so go to your cultivation whenever you wish. Send things on ahead for yourselves, and heed God; know that you will be meeting Him. Proclaim such to believers!
T.U. Hilali-M. Khan:
Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth (have sexual relations with your wives in any manner as long as it is in the vagina and not in the anus), when or how you will, and send (good deeds, or ask Allâh to bestow upon you pious offspring) before you for your ownselves. And fear Allâh, and know that you are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give good tidings to the believers (O Muhammad SAW).
M. Pickthall:
Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad).
M.H. Shakir:
Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.
Abdel Haleem:
Your wives are your fields, so go into your fields whichever way you like,and send [something good] ahead for yourselves. Be mindful of God: remember that you will meet Him.’ [Prophet], give good news to the believers.
Quran on the Bookshelves!
by Demo on Mon Mar 07, 2011 09:14 AM PST"then the messenger will say: "o my lord! truly my people took this QURAN for just foolish nonsense." (Quran 25:30).
1400 years of the book saved as a "holy" thing on the bookshelves & leaving Islam in the hands of bedouin Arabs, the scholars, Ayatoolas and etc. is the result of what Leila & what Ghazali said & what Khomeini did in Iran under the banner of Isalm. They all for sure going to meet GOD, the same with a 40 years who rapes a 9 years old under the banner of Islam! Without a doubt!
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by Red Wine on Mon Mar 07, 2011 09:00 AM PSTآزاده خانم جان عزیز . . .
خیلی جالب طرح را کشیدید،بسیار عمیق و با معنا اسلامیون را به زیر پای مبارکتان له کردید،ما که لذت بردیم..دستتان درد نکند.
امیدواریم که مملکت ما به زودی از دست این نا ایرانیها آزاد شود.
The Defence Rebuttal
by Demo on Mon Mar 07, 2011 08:56 AM PSTThe defence believes without a doubt in the ridiclued verse's essence that:
"A spiritual relationship between man and woman is postulated as the indispensible basis of sexual relationship." Without such "love bound" humans are in the lowest of the low ("ASFAAl'E SAFELLIN," Quran 95:5). As the human's exclusive entity "the choice" is always ours! Be my guest, then the "old neighbor" dear!
A 9-year old having sex with
by vildemose on Mon Mar 07, 2011 09:00 AM PSTA 9-year old having sex with a 40 year old??? I think that's worse than prostitution and pedophilia because you are allowed to do this by a religious prescription; not necesarily moral or ethical by or humanistic standards. Behaviors that are sanctioned by religion does not necessarily make them moral.
Putting up your daughters virginity for auction to the highest bidder is another example of immorality sanctioned by Islam.
"According to Leila Ahmed
by vildemose on Mon Mar 07, 2011 08:48 AM PST"According to Leila Ahmed (1992), who traces the changes and varieties of discourses in the history of Middle Eastern Arabic women, it was in the Abbasid era that the word woman became almost synonymous to slave and object for sexual use. Marketing of women as commodities and objects for sexual use was an everyday reality in Abbasid society. It is no wonder that Muslim scholars of that period, such as al-Ghazali, mainly define women as sexual beings. This period was however constitutive for the formulation of Islamic law and thus had a profound impact up till today.
""Sabbah argues that: "Muslim culture has a built-in ideological blindness to the economic dimension of women, who are ordinarily perceived, conceived and defined as exclusively sexual objects. The female body has traditionally been the object of an enormous erotic investment, which has clouded (if not totally hidden) woman's economic dimensions" (1984: 16-17). In addition, it has led to the general eroticization of relations between the sexes. As a result of this, working outside the home by women is often experienced as erotic aggression.
Women are thus generally viewed as sexual beings. Whatever women do, they are first and foremost perceived as enticing bodies. They and their bodies seem to have only a sexual dimension. Working in the male public space is generally perceived as an erotic invasion. The male body, although sexual in the presence of a female body, has several dimensions, for instance, in the economic or political field.""
//www.umbc.edu/eol/MA/index/number3/nieuwkerk/karin_4.htm
Islam and women - a case of bad press
by بت شکن on Mon Mar 07, 2011 08:39 AM PSTPrincess
This is the most well known fact about the pre-Islam Arabia. The prectice of burying their newborn girls alive by the pre-Islamic Arabs was widespread among the lower and uneducated ranks of the Arabian society. Giving birth to a girl particulalrly in a family where there were not enough children to sustain their parents in an older age was considered a disgrace. This practice was not confined to Arabis (see Wiki reference) Obviously it was not systematic enough to make a whole generation vanish. These are only a few of a thousands of references.
References:
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide
//www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.phppagearticles&id=140381
//www.alhassanain.com/english/book/book/family_and_community_library/family_and_child/matrimonial_rights/007.html
سرکار دمو
hamsade ghadimiMon Mar 07, 2011 08:29 AM PST
شما به این مطلب اعتقاد داری یا نه؟
"زنان شما كشتزار شما هستند پس از هر جا [و هر گونه] كه خواهيد به كشتزار خود [در]آييد و آنها را براى خودتان مقدم داريد و از خدا پروا كنيد و بدانيد كه او را ديدار خواهيد كرد و مؤمنان را [به اين ديدار] مژده ده"
A Cognitive Dissonance Sufferer!
by Demo on Mon Mar 07, 2011 08:18 AM PSTDiagnosed by the dear fact finder on IC & frustrated with the inability to see the "truth" & by reading the "wild" statements such as:
"Where women can have sex with whomever and whenever they please without
their fathers, husbands, or brothers killing them based on [what some
may call] islamic teachings. Where women can divorce their husbands,
and where under the law men, women, and non-believers are treated
equally....
I will keep my eyes open for your listing of a few islamic nations where people enjoy similar freedoms as we do."
And further by not knowing what "name calling" & what "islamic nations" reall mean, this commentator is resting his "insanity on IC" defence! Good luck with the "persisting global Jahl."
Demo: Suffering from
by vildemose on Mon Mar 07, 2011 07:24 AM PSTDemo: Suffering from Cognitive dissonance?? Yes, It does hurt deeply to hear the truth.
Calling me names won't change facts.
To: Demo
by Raoul1955 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 07:25 AM PSTThe best response to those hateful people who keep berating the great religion of islam is for you and other nice islamic folks to list a few muslim-governed countries where women are free to live their lives however they wish. Where women can have sex with whomever and whenever they please without their fathers, husbands, or brothers killing them based on [what some may call] islamic teachings. Where women can divorce their husbands, and where under the law men, women, and non-believers are treated equally....
I will keep my eyes open for your listing of a few islamic nations where people enjoy similar freedoms as we do.
allah-akar to you. :-)
Sick in Heart!
by Demo on Mon Mar 07, 2011 07:13 AM PST"Islam sees women as a sexual organ without any feelings, humanty, individuality, or brain............" WOW!!!!
Could not have been stated any better from a sick in heart individual on IC. Fantastic, Indeed!!!
Nice
by Princess on Mon Mar 07, 2011 08:20 AM PSTAzadeh jaan, nice work! Please keep it up.
بت شکن
"This holy verse was communicated to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) at a time when bedouin Arabs were so ashamed of raising a daughter that they were burying their newborn female babies live."
Really? Prove it, please if you will, using other sources than Muslims. Have you ever thought, that if that was the case, how did the population of Arabia survive into the 7th century?
Fantastic Azadeh. Islam
by vildemose on Mon Mar 07, 2011 06:33 AM PSTFantastic Azadeh.
Islam sees women as a sexual organ without any feelings, humanty, individuality, or brain.
It Objectifies women; strips down her humanity and dignity to a baby-producing machine and pleasure-giving sex toy and a obedient Kolfat. The only time women get any respect is as mother and that is not genuine either because the rest of her being as a human being is trashed and minimized.
No other relgion IMH views women as cattles to be herded or property of a man. No other religion exploits women's as mere pieces of meat/slave.
Patterns on Wheat Fields
by Faramarz on Mon Mar 07, 2011 05:48 AM PSTGreat job Azadeh.
Women are not crop fields to be plowed by men.
And this is further evidence that the patterns on the wheat fields are not made by the aliens, but rather by religious zealots!
Women Are Not Sex Tools!
by Demo on Mon Mar 07, 2011 05:37 AM PSTRather they are mothers, sisters, & wives. Reject the western culture's demotion of women as sex tools. There is nowhere in Quran one finds the title of "Holy" for the book itself. That is a man made title. However, that book reminds me & you the "holiness" of the female womb (Quran 4:1) where a despicable drop of fluid emitted from between the male loins & bones there turns to a fetus & to go on. Let's then just remind ourselves of our own creations & where we are going to end up finally & let's leave Quran alone if do not like it & let's live the way fits us the best in full ignorance, the "Transparent Jahl," that is!
You must read this within its socio-cultural context
by بت شکن on Mon Mar 07, 2011 08:13 AM PSTThis holy verse was communicated to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) at a time when bedouin Arabs were so ashamed of raising a daughter that they were burying their newborn female babies alive. What do you expect to have been decreed in the holy Quran: an equal opportunities bill for sexes? The reference/analogy to the field to be harvested is to do with fertility and the need/respect for procreation. Please think before talk.
Azadeh:
by Raoul1955 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 03:45 AM PSTVery nice drawing and well done.
Mullah-kosh:
Liberals and muslims ALWAYS justify such idiotic views and even worse by reminding us that centuries ago Christians used to ….
We have had many 'honor killings' right here in America and so far not a single liberal group, including women’s rights groups, has voiced their opposition to such barbaric acts.
Azadeh
by mullah-kosh on Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:27 AM PSTFirst of all, as a woman who has half the brain of a man, how dare you question Quran, and its holy verses? Secondly, as our good muslim, and IR supporters always say, you are just taking this out of context. When you put it in its proper context, the sentence you have here has a totally different meaning.
Now, I am waiting on our good IR supporters(thugs) to come and tell us how to f**king put this in context. I am really curious to see how the meaning of this sentence changes with the "context" around it. On Women's Day, I will use that page of Quran that has this verse to wipe my ass with. That is all Quran is good for. That, and using its pages for my dog's toilet training.
A real work of art only by a quarter - an earthy woman
by reader1 on Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:24 AM PSTI like the left bottom corner of your poster - a real work of art on its own, an earthy woman. Quran, Bible and Torah are fictional books – you should not take them too seriously.It does not do your art any good.
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by Kill Mouse Traps on Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:35 PM PST.
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Yusuf Ali:
Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear God. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.
Zohurul Hoque:
Your wives are a farm for you; so come to your farm as-and-when you please, and take steps for yourselves. And revere Allah; and know that you are going to meet Him. And give glad tidings to the Believers.
T. J. Irving:
Your wives are [meant] for you to cultivate: so go to your cultivation whenever you wish. Send things on ahead for yourselves, and heed God; know that you will be meeting Him. Proclaim such to believers!
T.U. Hilali-M. Khan:
Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth (have sexual relations with your wives in any manner as long as it is in the vagina and not in the anus), when or how you will, and send (good deeds, or ask Allâh to bestow upon you pious offspring) before you for your ownselves. And fear Allâh, and know that you are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give good tidings to the believers (O Muhammad SAW).
M. Pickthall:
Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad).
M.H. Shakir:
Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.
Abdel Haleem:
Your wives are your fields, so go into your fields whichever way you like,and send [something good] ahead for yourselves. Be mindful of God: remember that you will meet Him.’ [Prophet], give good news to the believers.