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IRANIAN STUD NEEDS NO VIAGRA

What's funny is that this man in the video and his family seem more content than Iranian-Feminists in the Diaspora.  

Despite his faults, the guy is the video is a stud: He'd be able to singlehandedly repopulate Iran after a nuclear attack.  The only thing Iranian-Feminists would be able to do is whine about it.  Do they even have kids - or do they just give speeches about other peoples' kids?

Where were the Feminist protests when Hugh Hefner was sleeping with every woman that came within 100 meters of his house?

Iranian women in LA - please protest the Playboy mansion.  

Indeed Ari

Equal Protection and freedom of association.  Both can be used in the context of gay marriage and polygamy.  I perosnally think that the government should stay out of it so long it is voluntary and non-abusive.

And the quote that you post is quite telling.  Thanks.   

AO

Interesting angle, regarding freedom of  assoiation.

Some related thoughts:

1. If the freedom of association arguments being used by gay marriage
advocates succeed, the same arguments would legalize polygamy.

2. Recent defense argument in a Canadian court prosecuting a polygamy case:

"A man who has two wives and their children in separate
houses is guilty because he treats it as a lifelong commitment and
proclaims it to be a marriage.

But a man who is not lawfully married could live with two
women, have children, share expenses and support one another and not be a
criminal because they have not agreed to treat the relationship as
enduring or binding."

Is there a F*king law is

Is there a F*king law is that country to tell this Bisavad-e Dahati when enough is enough!

He can barely take of him self yet alone those poor women and children.

Again we should thank Islam and Tazies for such a cultural addition to our law and moral of society. Absoloutly embaracing.

In my perfect world

There would be no marriage. There was a time that our species manged to live in communities without this " bondage," but as some from of "State" and notion of private property emerged things changed...

How about freedom of choice?

And I am being totally serious about this:

what if a man and a number of women decide that they want to marry (volunatrily, of course)?  In a free society, why should that choice be taken away from them? This is an interesting discussion that is being entertained in U.S. legal circles.  Constitutional scholars who view this as a freedom of association issue are even hoping to get it before the Supreme Court.

Hajj Khanoom

You are perfectly entitled to your view on this. My position is that Islamic Republic has made Polygamy lawful.

Your hajj agha is probably scared to death of you to do such a thing, but countless men do it; not to rescue poor women, but to satisfy the sexual appetite and expand the range of their power and control.

In Sonnate Peyghambarist

        The man may be an uneducated peasant but remember , he is only following his prophet's tradition . He is following Mohammad's pattern of marriage and family life.

Paykar

Pikar

My Hajj Agha would not marry three other women because he knows I would not tolerate it. I am his equal. Polygamy is a result of poverty and not religion.

Hajj khanoom

Islamic republic allows men to have up to 4 wives. It's matter of law. See if your sentiment changes when "Hajj Agha" decides to provide you with 3 more havoos.

Maybe you would get a kick out of it, wink wink; I am just throwing some seeds. They might take hold!

Stop blaming Islam

Polygamy does not much to do with religion. In Iran, 1% of men have more than one wife. In Africa this figure is around 50%

Stop blaming Islam

Polygamy does not much to do with religion. In Iran, 1% of men have more than one wife. In Africa this figure is around 50%

"I see you have a sense of

"I see you have a sense of humor: Have you considered that the anti-Feminism backlash will first make its way to the West?"

The backlash, to some degree, has only occured in the U.S.  This is after  tremendous gains since the suffrage movement.  

Given that Islam will conquer the world, ha ha, the backlash might happen; but I have news for sunshine, Iranians will topple the Islamic government and that will put an end to your privileges as well idiotic claims.

How is life on Massachuestts ave?

Iranian-Feminism: A joke without hope.

Soosan-Khanoom, you write: "one day that country will be ruled by women until then enjoy..."

I see you have a sense of humor: Have you considered that the anti-Feminism backlash will first make its way to the West?

A few Iranian-Feminist cartoons.

//iranianfeminism.blogspot.com/

Iranian-Feminism: A joke without hope.

Soosan-Khanoom, you write: "one day that country will be ruled by women until then enjoy..."

I see you have a sense of humor: Have you considered that the anti-Feminism backlash will first make its way to the West?

A few Iranian-Feminist cartoons.

//iranianfeminism.blogspot.com/

Omeedvar you mentioned two different take based on gender

Lucky men who live in IRI 

Four wives and unlimited Sigheh .....  LOL

Well ....... one day that country will be ruled by women until then enjoy...

: ) 

True story

در اوائل انقلاب، در یک کنفرانس در تهران از خانوم زهرا رهنورد، همسر میر حسین موسوی نخست وزیر سوال شد آیا در اسلام چهار زن عقدی و صیغه مجاز است، جواب داد: خیر. فقط در موقع جنگ و قحطی، برای کمک و حمایت به زنان و بچها میشود اینکار را کرد. یک هفته بعد همین سوال از آیت‌الّله موحدی کرمانی،  رئیس  دادگاههای مدنی شد، جواب این بود: در اسلام داشتن چهار زن عقدی و صیغه حق مسلم هر مرد مسلمان است. صیغه میتواند یک ساعته، یک روزه، یک هفته، یک ماهه، یک ساله و یا نودو نوه ساله باشد. در جواب اینکه میگویند فقط در موقع جنگ می‌توان اینکار را کرد، گفت، این حرفهارا یک عده بچه کمونیست در آورده اند

It is not a choice

It is about poverty. None of these women would stay within that marriage, if they could finically afford it. Poor children! Imagine the horrible effect of polygamy on those 20kids who must share the limited resources.

If the lifestyle in this

If the lifestyle in this video represents one extreme, the following represents another:  

"1 in 5 Women in U.S. Have Kids with Different Dads – Multiple Partner Fertility. "

//www.pregnancybaby411.com/multiple-partner-f...

4% of Men Raise Kids that they Falsely Believe Are theirs.  

//menshealth.about.com/od/lifestyle/a/paternity.htm 

The Grandma ......

is the Best ..... :) ! ?

My best wishes :)

I agree with bavafa that this happens all around the world. 

Men usually do it officially or brag about that, but women don't feel proud.  When it comes to public front nudity, women brag, but men usually don't brag except if they are porn stars or something!

What I don't understand is how such a person feels commited to a relationship.  You grow with your partner/spouse who will take care of you when you get sick or older.  I don't critisize multi-partners individual because I really don't understand them.  I always broke up a relationship and started another one.

This movie is heart crunching!

I feel really sorry for women in Iran.

There is absolutely no legal protection for women`s rights in Iran. after a certain age even their own parents go against the single girls!

Thanks Nahid, You removed the idea of polygamy from my mind 4evr

What is interesting is that this occurs around the world, usually condoned by some religous groups, no matter how poor or rich the nation.

I'm sure if Shah had stayed in Iran and it had continued its growth, even towards becoming the 3rd or 4th richest country in the world, inequality/polygamy/crime/poverty would have all still existed like in America, just more likely less than they occur in America.

Now that Iran is getting worse for the people living in it, year after year with no end in site, as far as reduced opportunities for and reduced abilities of the new generation, at least we can look and reflect that this families life is not as depressing as it is for many many other Iranians.  Considering the street girls, the people living on less than $300 per year (classed as dire poverty) in the millions.  An entire national economy and standard of living shrinking for 33 years. etc.

Ali P. Jaan: Just wondering...

We are saying the same thing, right? I think so... :)

Mehrdad
P.S. If it is done among consenting adults, I am all OK with it as long as the same right exist for women (i.e having four or as many husband)

If he was rich enough, why not ?

With age, you need security. Romance, much less.

If he can provide for all four, fine. But then, he'd need to be Abdullah of SA. ;o))

Iranian Playboy (Heda Hefner)

One way to look at it is that the subject of the movie "Heda" is the Iranian Hugh Hefner (Publisher of Playboy). Just put a little disco music to the visuals!

For women that hate men, this seems like a perfect situation because they don't have to actually spend a lot of time with the husband. If Iranian Personals doesn't work out for you, just keep Heda's phone number handy. If he likes you, he will give you the biggest piece of the goat.

: )

Bavafa jaan

People in East, or in West, do what they want to do.

If 3 women want to become wives - for all the practical purposes-to a single man, they can do it in the West, or in Iran. 

 The difference is:

  In one society (West), the practice is illegal(in the form of a marriage), discouraged, and not recognized by the state, and in the other one (Iran) it is legal and recognized by the state.

Soosan Khanoom

soosan khanoom you must be master in Arabic and could read quran, good for you. Only thing is how many people are Muslim and could read and write and understand Arabic, even Arab they read Quran don't understand it. Quran is the book about 1400 year what was like living in desert and the wars and how to kill people and how they got killed and how to hate people, you claim no body reads Quran don't you think there is a problem with this religion, which doesn't allow to be translated to other languages?

4 Wives / Random Observations

1. The subjects in the video are peasants - in the countryside in most countries there are usually different social norms.

2. Most Iranian men do not have 4 wives (or even 2). I have never met one - though I am sure that in remote places among some farmers you could find this phenomenon.

3. Whatever the people in this video do or don't do is largely their own personal business. At most it is up to the people that live in Iran - not outside of it - to make laws to address the situation.

4. The same type of thing happens in the US: There was a preacher in Waco that had dozens of wives; Mormon sects still practice polygamy. However, very rarely are those incidents used to slander all Americans - the same can't be said about Iranians. When 1 Iranian does something disagreeable, all the Iranians seem to get blamed.

5. I'm certain that some Iranian peasants live happier lives than Iranians in the diaspora - even if their lifestyle seems unusual by Western standards.

6. The man in this video does not need Viagra. Someone bottle his hormones and make a fortune.

I enjoyed watching this movie -- though some of the translations were incorrect.

Isn't such practice take place here in the US all the time

The so called wives are only not officially wives but mistress.

The act is the same and so is the [mis] deed and it is legal, yet it does not make it OK just because it is done here in the West.  Just as wrong as under any other roof or place in the world.

Mehrdad