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Au Contraire Roozbeh_Gilani
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 09:46 PM PSTKhomeini, Khamenei, Rafsanjani & Mousavi have all been charged with personally ordering high level executions & mass murders, in court, found guilty in Germany a large trading partner of IRI's. Back to the Main Point "Your Ignorance" So Roozbeh you too are saying the late Shah was responsible Regardless of whether he knew about it or not, intended it or not, gave the order or not. Well With intellect like that I say if you 2 are our leftists.... Leftists are one of the main source for creation of IRI. You're too clueless to be enlightened as to what great traitors to Iran you are. Give me some credit for effort.
"Manufacturing false hate is an act of ignorance."
"Denial of actions in undermining the character of the late shah and thereby fomenting an ANVOLUTION towards worse is the opposite of Smart"
"When faced with reason, don't dig your heels in too deeply, you look worse for it."
HIM was a whore-mongering, little clown, playboy, that towards
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Sat Nov 26, 2011 09:17 PM PSTthe end really thought he called the shots.
Your utter ignorance to the extent of theft in shah's time just proves you never had a job in Vzarat Naft.
All those numbers you recite a proof of economic advancement doesn't mean squat, you had slums created in every major city due to the "White Revolution".
At best you could call it mal-development; at a realistic non-diplomatic level, shah's 'modernization' was one of the biggest historical f..k-up jobs of the second half of 20th century.
so, khamenei did not order the murder or torture of any Iranian
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Sat Nov 26, 2011 09:15 PM PSTeither!
This is the - intended or not- "logical conclusion" of what this couple of foul mouth, angry clowns of "monarchists" are driving at when they so patheticaly try to shift the blame from never mind the shah, but also islamist regime to "lefties"!!
my response to both of these characters is: you are not fooling anyone, we know what you two are all about.
and before I go, dont you just love the way parasit is pissing off the islamist regime supporters?
nighty night brothers :)
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
hooshang your comments priceless.
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 08:53 PM PSTHow come our Traitors are so ignorant?
You say...When shah wsa in power all you did was nothing othre than stealing as much oil monies as you could. And this Regarding Iran that climbed from 80th to 9th wealthiest nation with the largest creation of middle class percentage wise in the world?
Giving all large private lands his own included were an act of stealing? Raising price of oil and creating high payng jobs with it is stealing? Taking full ownership of Irans natural resources is stealing? Maybe if you had any idea who the late shah was and what he accomplished, then you'd know why most people want him back.
I like what you are saying Darius its truthful
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 08:34 PM PSTyou say, " there is this secret race between IRI and old oppositons with
outside world , each trying to trrump the other one by giving away as
much as they can to be the one who will be in charge." It is no secret, thats why the USA is still siding with mullahs in Iran, IRI has already given up all the caspian oil rights which iran under shah held 50%. Parazit is used to put pressure on the regime so they come out with their very best offer and screwing Irans freedom, democracy, human rights. Its a filthy manipulation, yet west does it. The IRI are not dumb like Ghaddafi, they will sell Iran out or get replaced by another group of sell outs within Iran. False Concern for Human rights is a gift that never stops giving.
These guys are unaware of the depth of their treason and how badly they are being manipulated.
But you don't deserve any break
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Sat Nov 26, 2011 08:29 PM PSTYou've despised and hated Iranian people, and Iranian people have always returned teh favour and despised you back. When shah wsa in power all you did was nothing othre than stealing as much oil monies as you could. Stolen wealth was so tasty you jsut can't get it out of your mouth.
Meanwhile back in the ranch you still don't have a clue WTF you're talking about. Daily struggles of social movemetns against IR inside Iran are not connected to any old fart opposition outside, or any old opposition period. but such a simple description is too complex for your burnt out, jaded, cynical minds. All you know is to steal monies form a people, and blame them for all the problems in your life.
Give me a break..
by darius on Sat Nov 26, 2011 08:14 PM PSTHIM was a whore-mongering, little clown, playboy, that towards
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Sat Nov 26, 2011 08:11 PM PSTthe end really though he was on his own. After khominie, shah is the most destructive person in modern Iranian history.
Hooshang TG Which school of comedy are you employing tonight?
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 08:09 PM PSTShah was responsible for every single human rights violation in Iran, regardless of chain of command.
LOL
So you are saying Shah was responsible Regardless of whether he knew about it or not, intended it or not, gave the order or not. Wow how very Fox News of You, fair and balanced I mean. That would conveniently make everything the fault of the Shah now wouldn't it? This one comment will always bring a smile to my face when I see your name. LOL
نه سر پیاز, نه ته پیاز
Hooshang Tarreh-GolSat Nov 26, 2011 08:03 PM PST
The most sorry monarchist crowd were targets of the last revolution, and definitely not a part of this coming revolution either.It's understandable how you despise Iranian people, because Iranian people have mutual feelings towards you and despise you as well, even steven on that one.
As far as ANVOLUTION your shah's most stupid, gargantuan so called "White Revolution," was one of the ANNIEST there ever were, for it effectively poured all these populace from the country side to big cities, creating slums that became centers of opposition.
As usual monarchists don't need such HISTORICAL FACTS.
Hooshang the real pity was The People Did not hear Him
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:54 PM PSTShah said, " I HEARD THE VOICE OF YOUR REVLOTUTION" to a people that would regret not hearing him.
Darius while I agree with you, I don't agree with your methods
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 08:02 PM PSTSaying the truth like this cuts deeply and does little to serve Iran "Just remember ,It was not Shah who was bad, it was you your parents, your family." Be gentle, not harsh please. If they could feel remorse for the harm they caused and we all experienced, we wouldn't be in this situation today.
Darius Many people are not willing to look at the good the shah did, but do you think you will change anyones idea by stating the obvious sharply, these people can't even tell the difference between a soft puppy/bambi and a dictator, you want them to show you they have learned from their misplaced blames and personal agendas.
ANVOLUTION Lol that was a good one,
for the record, I like what parazit is doing, because none of the real media is doing its job, so long as Iranians are not manipulated into thinking that the US govt really wants freedom, democracy and human rights for Iranians and so Iranians don't allow the hurt that believing such manipulation would cause I am okay with the show. USA loves Islam for Iran and is trying to get a leadership that will do as its told, it fully intends to use the hopes and aspirations of Iranians to accomplish this, one group of mullahs replacing the current group. As long as we are clear, we're fine.
As for your attitude Hushang, If I were the RP II and I came across people with your point of view, I would not risk my life liberating them. Be Honest.
Where's VPK when we need some good diversity of view points?
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by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:45 PM PSTBijan Jazani and his comrades were machine guned 2:00 AM on the hills sorrounding their prison;on the personal order of shah: as a retaliation for assasination of Abas Shahreyari. Needless to say Jazani's untimely demise created an incredible leadership vacum, with its own deadly consequences.
Shah was responsible for every single human rights violation in Iran, regardless of chain of command.
I HEARD THE VOICE OF YOUR REVLOTUTION
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:36 PM PSTDaruis jan, definitely a long long way for you and your type.
Not sure where you have been in the past 32 years but, Iranian people have been fighting IR inside Iran since day one. But since you've never been a participant in any of these fighting communities, you end up refering to your testicles, and other people's body parts. Then again that's to be expected from monarchists vulgarians.
But also keep in mind that its not only the fights and struggles of the people inside the country that monarchists have been, and are, and will be, ignorant of; it is also the struggles and fights of the refugees that they haven't done squat for, though a good number of refugees are monarchists.
So, how is it that always every one else is responsible and gave you the revolution, other than your little shah: Please do tell who the f..k was it that went to national TV and said:
" I HEARD THE VOICE OF YOUR REVLOTUTION"?
Hooshang, re leftists and others.
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:35 PM PSTShah never personally ordered the killing or torture of a single person. When shah was informed by certai foreig secret services of savaks unlawful actions during the admin of teymour bakhtiyar he was put under house arrest and other things for his actions.
Hooshang, re leftists and others.
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:35 PM PSTShah never personally ordered the killing or torture of a single person. When shah was informed by certai foreig secret services of savaks unlawful actions during the admin of teymour bakhtiyar he was put under house arrest and other things for his actions.
Darius joon, you really hate "lefties" dont you?!!
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:29 PM PSTYou tried hard, almost did a good job, until this, the last paragraph, when you gave the game away, telling us what you are really all about:
"Stop asking American and Europeans and Israelis pave the way for you."
Now tell us why you dislike parasite crowd so much? I mean they are not lefty , are they?
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
ahosseini siad: ای
Babak K.Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:25 PM PST
ahosseini siad:
ای کاش آقای کامبیز به کودتای 28 مرداد نیز می پرداخت
ahosseini
به نسل جوان توضیح میداد که کی نهال دموکراسی را ذر ایران ریشه کن کرد.
دیکتاتوری لجام گسیخته را به ایران حاکم کرد.
خفقان ایجاد کرد.
مانع ترقی و تعالی شعور سیاسی و اجتماعی مردم ایران شد.
و در نتیجه این سطح پایین شعور سیاسی و اجتماعی خمینی را به مردم تحمیل کرد.
Kurdestan was one of the places Shah had lots of support
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:25 PM PSTDon't disgrace Kurds for the treachury of so many groups towards themselves & the iranian people who were disingenuously fighting against the shahs team and were directly responsible for making Iran a worse place for Iranians. Independence, freedom and equality were better in iran during the late shah's time than at any other time in the last millenia, give some credit to the shahs team and you'll also need humility before you can start to forgive yourself for betraying Iranians.
Savak was an essential organization for Iran and did much of the fighting for Iranians Freedom. Jashn hay 2500 Saleh was a great moment for Iran, criticized only by opponents of the monarchy for political purposes and served as a great investment for Iranians on the world stage.
My hallucination is that you would have done everything exactly like the late shah that you criticize and condemn had you been in the same position.
Most informed and sophisticated leftist were killed by
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:21 PM PSTorder of Shah,( Bijan Jazani,....) or in hands of SAVAK (Mostfa Shoayiean,...) so when the time had arived they were not there to lead, as they ought to have had that historical position.
As for the living ones, who survived shah, when you get a chance read all thirty six issues of this journal below and show me one single article, line or word that's following or bowing to khominie.
کتاب جمعه//irpress.org/index.php?title=
The editor of tis amazingly, great journal, Ahmad Shamlo had such a clear vision of all this monarchist re-writing of history, fifteen, almost tewnty years ago.
All due respect, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Fardost played all of
you like a little handkercheif, and you still don't know how you got
hit.
Still Long way to go.......
by darius on Sat Nov 26, 2011 07:17 PM PSTFor those , who gave us the "ANVOLUTION" which includes, JM, N-Azadi,
Fadaeian,Tudeh, Mojahedeen and all those F...... Mazhabioon and all those who still forgot their dad stole from poors to pay for their education abroad, you are not still half way through eating
" Gohi ke ye mosht bisavad mazhabi va akhoonde roze khan baratan pokhtan'.
They checkmated you, and let you wonder " hanooz ham toye "Goh gije hasteed".
You desreve them, you still have to pay back for all those lies.
Remember you stupid revolutionary hired mining engineers from Sweden to find out the the underground tunnels deep under 300 meter depth under Evin prison?
Do you really think people like you deserve something better than Khomeini's thug ,khalkhali, KHameniem, Taleghani va Montazeri?
Next is Mojahedeen that will hang you from your balls.
Just remember ,It was not Shah who was bad, it was you
your parents, your family.
How many of you were paid to become doctors an dserve Iranian villagers for 4 years? Which one of you ever left the luxury of Tehran
and paid back your dues to your nation ?How could you blame Shah when he had to hire Indians to help Iranian villagers?
Man up now , use those balls,pack your belonging and go for a fight, show that you deserve to be a man. Stop asking American and Europeans and Israelis pave the way for you.What a shameless people.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy!
by Oon Yaroo on Sat Nov 26, 2011 06:51 PM PST1953 occurred, then 1979 occurred!
Therefore, 1953 caused 1979!
I have always pondered upon this question!
Why did the so-called informed and sophisticated leftist follow and bow to Khomaini in 1979?
Ownership belongs to your apologist, confused type
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Sat Nov 26, 2011 06:27 PM PSTnot us.
People in Kurdestan never fought against shah to bring about some shia mullah to power, the same with many workers and women. We all fought for independence, freedom and equality. Khomwini was imposed on Iranian people, by a combination of internal and external structures spanning from Fardost to ayatollah BBC.
Above all, the ideas that paved the way for khomieni's assent to power were; Hezb Rastakhiz, SAVAK, SAVAK's hand in glove cooperation with Hojatieh, publishing of that letter in Ettellat and thus making khomieni an over night national figure, Jashn hay 2500 Saleh,...
If one is not familiar with your typically jaded, cynical, burnt out "hallucinations" (as you yourself aptly put it) one might be surprised that how you could write tons and tons of gibirish, and yet not once, not even once, acknoweledge the fact that publishing that letter was probably the single most substantive helping from shah to khomeini.
I would cite Khalil Maleky, and Dr. Fatemi as two figures that have shaped my readign of Iranian history.Please enlighten all of us and explain how Khalil Maleki and Dr. Fatemi helped Kashani and Khomieni,...
Due respect, you are in no position to determine exactly how many Iranians over 50 think or feel about shah.
Read Hooshang Tareh-Gol & ahosseini's comments..
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Sat Nov 26, 2011 06:28 PM PSTAnd learn.
We have come full circle, from aryamehr to vali faghih. Ahmadinezhad, the little fascist hojjatist, declares his love for cyrus and his cylinder. Islamists claim that "shiat islam is a persian, Kiaani thing"!!! I guess that means they are now fully justified in killing, torturing and raping Iranians according to shariat law, because "shariat law must also be a persian kiani thing".
Before anyone jumps on me, i have nothing against kiani, cyrus, persepolis and cylinder. I am only pointing to the way these symbols of our nation are misused. I am pointing to a common denominator.
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Hooshang , most Iranians over 50 years of age disagree with you.
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 06:14 PM PSTShahs period is remembered as a bright period by most and he is not seen by most as responsible for the actions of others, including being betrayed by his ally. Since the shah more than any iranian leader in recent history gave so much & so generously in service to iranians & considering he never used absolute power in his years as king, that is why many won't see eye to eye with you. Its funny that you personally have so much blame for the shah, yet reading your post and your attitudes shows me that you and those that agree with your ideas did more to bring khomeini to power than others. Own it!
A balanced, critical appreciation of the history of that era
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Sat Nov 26, 2011 06:34 PM PSTMy dearest Aary Az Mehr, thanks for your incredibly polite friendly advise, a true Aryan you are! My take on monarchy and Islamic Repblic of Hell is one and the same, nothing to do with viagra...., it is also refered to as vendetta. Of course in tis instance it's not only a personal vendetta against both these regimes that stole my country from me, but also a national, collective vendetta, against people who stole our country from all of us. Then again such a notion might be beyond your ken.
When the approach in mind for a historical analysis, is a balanced, critical appreciation of the history of that era, that means: though we acknoweledge some of the advancement made in that period from '53 to '79, at the same time we observe how the Royal Court and monarchy as a whole practically cultivated the Clerical Cast. In a historical comparative sense Shah's post '53 relationship with the Clerical Cast was very much like how the Ghajar's recruited mullahs to fight the Babi. Of course with shah it was fighting Mosadegh and the Left. Of course you don't have a single word to say about Kashani's re;ationship withe the royal court, SAVAK, that letter on khomeini that was published in Ettellat
As one of the comments in here mentioned what's going on right now in Eygpt. Syria, Yemen,...is also as urgent as understanding our recent history.
Parham khan, you're too kind, thanks.
Dear Kambiz the Irony of the Parazit Show is.........
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 05:52 PM PSTThat it is necessary because it brings a voice to the human rights crimes, corruption and various injustices being inflicted on the Iranian people by "the IRI Hezbollahi Party in Power in iran" and they are giving the freedom to highlight what is wrong.
And yet it is receiving money from a government that helped create the Genocide of Hopes and Dreams of Iranians, a US government that supports Islamists coming to power in secret, one that is using their good not to help bring freedom and democracy to Iran, but one that is doing everything to keep islam in power, just with a different management that does what they want it to, that the US governement appreciates their authetic approach done with good motives hides the hand of the US government that is using the show for manipulation to bring to power something worse while making itself look good and caring about Iraniand concerns. It is this manipulation that is and will cause great hurt to Iranians if they let it in.
In that sense you are unintentionally misleading & misinforming Iranians, due to your own misunderstandings regarding how you are being used.
I agree with Houshang
by Parham on Sat Nov 26, 2011 05:40 PM PSTI agree with Houshang Tarreh-Gol. He's right in every bit of what he has written.
Hooshang....
by AryamehrNYC on Sat Nov 26, 2011 05:35 PM PSTWhy dont you enlighten us since you seem to be the utmost authority on all Iranian matters. Allow me the liberty to make a suggestion: Instead of being a typical Iranian with a Viagra-induced hard on regarding the previous regime on its obvious faults, why dont you try and focus on the good things they brought to Iranian society. I am sure your "magzeh kohl" arse didnt score a perfect 20 on your report card either, so try to view the previous regime in that respect as well - unless you didnt average higher than 7 on your karnameh.
All of this is nothing less than a closet-monarchist rewriting
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Sat Nov 26, 2011 04:31 PM PSTof the actual history. If there was no freaking shah, there would be no freaking khomeini. As simple as that.
It's probably impossible for Parazit producers to appreciate what it was like to live under, Aary Az Mehr, Hezb Rastakhiz, SAVAK and all othre related functions. But just because they can't remember it (actually it was almost a decade before they were born, so they could have an excuse there), or can't have a balanced, critical appreciation of the history of that era, it doesn't mean that shah didn't pave the way for khomeini and his types, from day one after 1953. Monarchy practically cultivaed mullahs' cast, starting with Kashani, down the line.