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Haha, Its the Opposite

The Green Movement Owes America.

The Iranian opposition cannot do anyone any favors, when it cannot even do itself a favor, and needs foreign support.

In contrast, there is nothing in any American's or Westerner's life that was improved as a result of Iran's so-called "Green Movement". 

Plus, what do Iranians know about America or the West? 

This guy thinks Western governments consult with their citizens and anxiously respond to what their citizens want them to do, and that there are real foreign policy differences between the Democrats and Republicans.

NIAC ..

Why don't you write a blog about NIAC? This blog was presumably about Vahedi. Now it has become a debate on NIAC. Why not debate MEK {the new ally of JM} or whatever. 

I am really seeing the point of banning people. The first one to go would be MK. With this obsession on NIAC. Sir it takes about a minute to open a blog and move your spams to your OWN blog.

Why Is NIAC Interested In Brokering Contacts?

Why Is NIAC Interested In Brokering Contacts between the US and the murderous regime of IR? What's in it for Mr. Parsi, et al? Millions of Iranians in diaspora and tens of millions of Iranians inside Iran want the regime gone. And here we are dealing with NIAC, an organization which claims to be representing Iranians, but is trying hard to help the regime in its efforts to survive. Mr. Parsi as an individual and NIAC cadres as a whole can meet anyone they please, however, where it concerns their dealings with IR agents, whoever they may be, they cannot claim their actions are in the best interests of Iran or Iranians. The best interests of Iranians lie only in the downfall of the regime in Tehran! Of course, in their desperate attempts to give their political activism the much needed legitimacy, the NIAC cadres come up with all sorts of conspiracy theories involving Iranian organizations and certain American groups. Moreover, providing lame excuses, NIAC president has stated his opposition to sanctions, loud and clear. Claiming sanctions hurt average Iranians, Mr. Parsi does not seem to realize that Iranians have been hurting for more than three decades.

And the book

Can be downloaded in pdf format from book sharing sites.

2007/2008 - Treacherous Alliance book based on 130 interviews

here is just a couple of 2007/2008 reviews found from the web on TP's contacts/interviews with Israeli, American and Iranian officials for his book, Treacherous Alliance (still not-so-secret):

//www.politicalreviewnet.com/polrev/reviews/MEPO/R_1061_1924_155_1007687.asp

2008 

"....and which are based on 130 in-depth interviews conducted with Iranian, Israeli and American officials and analysts......"

"Some of the interviewees include former high- and mid-level officials (and on the Iranian side, a few current officials, like Iran's UN Ambassador and Deputy Foreign Minister Javad Zarif, who is quoted quite extensively), but also (especially on the Israeli side) a few think-tank analysts and old timers whose perspectives and speculations may be interesting and provocative but who lack access to information about current policy making in the three capitals."

//www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/62963/l-carl-brown/treacherous-alliance-the-secret-dealings-of-israel-iran-and-the-

 November 2007

"Well researched and enriched by a hefty number of interviews with U.S., Iranian, and Israeli officials who explain what their governments were thinking and doing at the time, this book offers a judiciously balanced account. " 

Eli Lake article was in 2009.  ok........... I am outa here.

MM

Whatever you say!

I still think that Trita is cuter than Maryam Rajavi.

Dear Vildemose, on NIAC, Trita Parsi and CIA

Dear Vildemose,

1. The first time that I heard about Dr. Trita Parsi providing some sort of service (i.e., providing lecture or lectures) for the CIA was the article by Eli Lake. NIAC had NOT publicized Trita Parsi’s connections to the CIA on their website.

//www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/13/exclusive-did-iranian-advocacy-group-violate-laws/print/

2. Then, I asked several questions on this site to get the details from supporters of NIAC. Instead of providing clear answers, first the NIAC members and supporters provided opaque responses, and then the avalanche of weird, vicious personal attacks and insults.

NIAC and supporters of NIAC have not provided answers to my very simple objective questions. Instead, we get fohsh, insults, personal attacks by supporters and members of NIAC. Their purpose appears to be trying to intimidate the people into silence. Instead of transparency and honesty, we get insults and personal attacks.

Instead of stating that Trita Parsi provided lectures for the CIA, all they say is that such things are routine.

My questions are clear and fair. But NIAC has NOT provided answers to my questions. Let me restate my questions. Hopefully, we could get honest answers from NIAC.

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Could you PLEASE provide us the official NIAC responses to the following questions:

1. How many times did Dr. Trita Parsi meet with the CIA?

2. Did Dr. Parsi receive money from the CIA?

3. If Dr. Parsi did get money from the CIA, how much money was given to Trita Parsi by the CIA (in total)?

4. Did Dr. Trita Parsi tell Javad Zarif that he provided talks to the CIA?

5. If Dr. Parsi informed Javad Zarif about his talks with the CIA, did Parsi tell Zarif before or after his talks with the CIA?

Thank you very much for your time and efforts in providing NIAC’s official responses.

Thanks,

Masoud

Amirparviz

No filtering please : ) going down rabbit trails is sooo fun

He basically made a point, no US involvement needed just pressure countries that helped the regime do its crack down and punish their companies to signal the US is with iranians.  So that leads us to talk in an infinite number of directions and then to respond to peoples comments which are a step away from this subject.  This request won't do anything to stop covert US help for MeK, done unlawfully.  This won't stop the interests of the USA in seeking its own Kolfat for Iran, we need to grow up and realize we need to shape the direction of ongoing US involvement and policy for our 3rd world country.  Basically we can't stop them doing what they want to do, we just have to have our own response to their neo colonalism and be hyper sensitive of when they label our patriotoc leaders their kolfats and when they represent their kolfats as great iranian independent figures. 

My Mesage would be for very different to Mojtaba's, while supporting the same basic points, but to create a very different essence.  I say, The USA should not support any group with its support linked to theocracy for the reason they have the blood of innocent iranians on its hands.  I would ask the US to not get involved directly and to also thoroughly discredit Mousavi and Karoubi for having been 2 regime insiders, who adore the golden days of the Emam of Kh Kh Kh's.

Faramarz - an alternative suggestion

I looked around and no such luck on a TP mask.  My suggestion is to call Hassan Dai to see if he stocks on eff(ing)gies of the Rajavi duo.  You and your girl will make a killing when folks drop their candies at the site of the god and the goddess of the MEK.

Vildemose jan - not so secret meetings

Trita has not tried to hide these meetings, and one can find records of them going back to his first major book, Treacherous Allinace.  More recent records of TP's not-so-secret meetings can be found regarding the research for his second major book, A Single Roll of the Dice - Obama's Diplomacy with Iran

"........, interviewed 70 high-ranking officials from the U.S., Iran, Europe, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Brazil—including the top American and Iranian negotiators—for this book." (//www.tritaparsi.com/).

If someone wants to believe Hassan Dai's writings; so be it: we live in a free society.  Kudos to Dai and his followers / believers.  If someone wants to make a 20 question questionnaire/test like we are his students and then make more questions based on our answers, sorry; back to your college students, please.

If we filtered

By subject 90% of the posts on this blog would be gone. Including some of my own responses. Because they don't talk about the topic of the blog. Or make silly remarks like calling him an idiot.

Amirparviz makes sense

I am not going to be fooled by JM again. That does not mean NIAC is good or MEK is good or anything else. But Amirparviz is right. JM betrayed Iran and must be held responsible. 

JM needs to know people will call a spade a spade

Right. Monarchy or not JM betrayed Iran and Bakhtiyar their own man mind you!  Now they want us to follow them again. Folks JM is irrelevant; MEK is irrelevant and NIAC is an American lobby. None has much say in the future of Iran. Realistically speaking this Vahedi probably has less baggage than any of them! The only one of the "old guard" with any credibility is Reza Pahlavi. And he needs a case of energy drinks just to get him out of bed. 

I Need a Trita Mask for Halloween!

I called NIAC to get a Trita mask for Halloween but they said that Dr. Parsi was busy on the red phone resolving some international crisis in the Persian Gulf.

Oh well, I guess that I have to go with my Ghadhafi mask! Unless my NIAC buddies here can help!

نگاهی به درون بیافکنید

بیش از بدهکاری اوباما به جنبش سبز جناب موسوی به جنبش بدهکار هستند که با آروزیشان برای «بازگشت به دوران طلایی امام» مردم را از حرکت دلسرد کردند - چه کسی میخواهد کشته شود تا بار دیگر به سال ۵۸ برگردیم؟

Why NIAC

I don't understand why every discussion goes to NIAC and Dai. NIAC is a lobby group with no relation to Vahedi that I have found. 

Meanwhile this person Vahedi comes and makes a bunch of points. Suddenly out of the side jumps MK with his NIAC grudge. Is Vahedi a member of NIAC? If not why bring NIAC in. Writing 6 page long posts about NIAC and Dai is a waste of time. I want to know about Vahedi. How about either show a relation between Vahedi and NIAC or give it a rest. Vahedi is the subject of the blog.

It is like I wonder in the Professor's class. Then start talking about a totally unrelated topic. Why don't you give room for those who want to discuss Vahedi for a change. MK has single handedly turned me against JM.

If the 2 points were true Iran would not be in shape it is today

1. Those who use the slogans "Esteghlal, Azadi, Jomhuri IRANI," "Naa
Sharghi, Naa Gharbi, Jomhuri IRANI," are explicitly saying they oppose
the VF regime and VF constitution, and want a secular democratic
republic. The main political party/organization that has been advocating
these demands has been the JM. 

2. JM has a long history of commitment to democracy, freedom, and human rights.

JM is a totally discredited organization and it can make any promise it wants & any story to gain supporters, however these days buyers are aware, this is why an organization that acted like an un-patriotic foreign stooge and helped the west betray all iranians, in terms of gaining greater democracy/freedom & human rights, as we have all experienced will have a hard time building trust that infact they will not be Kolfat for foreign powers. The JM will try to distance itself from the disgraceful actions of the past, I doubt they will succeed. These days iranians are aware the way the USA is acting and how it betrayed the shah & it is infact searching for a Kolfat

The only period where people experienced freedom (as opposed to democracy) and independence (pursuing Iranian interests via education, defense & industrialization) and increasing human rights (which the world cynically used as an issue through lies as they torture people all over the world using the term rendition not torture) was during the time of the late shah, so far this has proven to be the greatest period of iranian history from a standpoint of peace, prosperity, foreign respect, National pride and economic development.   Only an Anti-Monarchist would have a problem with these self evident truths. 

In which case that is fine, JM needs to know people will call a spade a spade, an anti-monarchist an anti-monarchist and a historically anti-iranian group that supported the anti-iranian coup of 1979, an anti-iranian group.  it will be tough to overcome peoples experiences of JM with words, when what they have DONE speaks so loudly, few can hear what they say. 

Dear MK: " There is a

Dear MK:

" There is a double standard. It was revealed that Dr. Trita Parsi had SECRET presentations to CIA, and NIAC as an organization"

What do you mean by 'secret'. It it was secret then how did anybody found out?? What was discussed in that secret presentation? Who else attended that meeting?

"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." - Louis D. Brandeis

 NIAC is not an Iranian

 NIAC is not an Iranian lobby. It's a American lobby for the promotion of the American left geopolitical agenda (i.e, oligarch leftist and realists).

"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." - Louis D. Brandeis

 Fool me twice, Damet

 Fool me twice, Damet garm.. gol gofti.

"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." - Louis D. Brandeis

G. R thanks

Got it! Actually the Islamist came 1400 years ago and not left yet. Agreed 5 even 10 years of American shit is better than 1400 years of Islamist shit. 

VPK:

Last time Islamists ruled Iran, they stayed for 200 years! Do we really want 200 more years of religious/mullahs' rule?

G. R Khan

I like your Ho Chi Minh quote it cracked me up. Now how does it apply to Iran. America is France; Russia China or what?

An Interesting Quote Attributed To Ho Chi Minh!

“The last time the Chinese came, they stayed a thousand years. The French are foreigners. They are weak. Colonialism is dying. The white man is finished in Asia. But if the Chinese stay now, they will never go. As for me, I prefer to sniff French shit for five years than to eat Chinese shit for the rest of my life.”—Hồ Chí Minh, 1946[28] Source: Wikipedia. Ho said the above after signing an agreement with the French in March 1946!

niac groupies, shoma ham Lotfan Darash Ra begozareed.

                                                                                                  با درود به ملت ایران, ذره ای از درد دل شما که اینجانب وظیفه خویش میدانم بیان کنم. همچنین با سپاس فراوان از شاهین نجفی برای این سروده های زیبایش که پاره ای از آن ضمیمه میباشد. امید که این نوشتار و سروده باعث ترک خوردن شیشه ی نازک طبع لطیف بچه آخوند های فُکل کراواتی نشود؛ اگر هم شد خب بشود. چونکه از پررویی سنگ پای قزوین پیش پای حضرات لُنگ انداخته. خود حامی (یا حتی عامل) شنیعترین جانیانند ولی به محض اینکه کسی خاطرنشان شود که بالای چشمشان ابروست رگ ولایتشون میزنه بیرون. هزار قر و قمیش میایند و تفاسیر بلغور میکنند.

یعنی همه چی دوروغه, جز خرمشهر و
مردای تیکه تیکه شده و زنای بی شوهر و...
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دروغه, اون که زیرِ تانک رفت رهبر نبود
رهبر دره گوشش لالایی مرگ می خوند.
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 این حکومت جهل و جنون خانواده من و میلیونها ایرانی را از هم پاشونده. پدر و برادرم رو کشت و مادرم را دق مرگ کرد. برادر ١٩ ساله ام را در جبهه روی مین فرستاد‌ و پدرم را در قزلحصار زیر شکنجه کشت. واقعأ کفر آدم در میاد وقتی اینگونه افراد قلم به مزد سعی در محو کردن حقایق میکنند. حرومشون باد این نانِ آغشته به خون. همینجا از همه ی مزدوران تمنا میکنم که به آغوش مردم ایران بازگشته و جنایات ننگین سی و سه ساله آخوندها را لاپوشانی نکنند . رهبر و اکبر و خاتمی و موسوی و کروبی و احمدینژاد و گنجی و سازگارا و تریتا پارسی و امثالهم دشمن ایران و ایرانی و دین و مذهب و مُشتی جنایتکار متظاهر دین فروشند. خاست مردم دردمند ایران جدایی دین از سیاست و دولت است, و دولت عاری از تعلقات مذهبی میتواند از حق انتخاب و آزادی دین و مذهب همه اقشار جامعه دفاع و حمایت کند. به همین سادگی. ولی اشخاص سودجو و فرصت طلب این مقوله را هی پیچ و تاب میدن, میگن دموکراسی انواع و اقسام مختلف داره, سکولاریسم معانی متعدد داره, یا مزخرفاتی از این قبیل. به خداوند جان و خرد که دموکراسی فقط یه نوعه, یعنی مردم خودشون سرنوشتشون رو تأیین کنند, نه ولایت فقیه و رهبر و خبرگان و یا هر کوفت زهر مار من درآوردی آخوند. (آخوند عمامه ایی یا آخوند فُکل کراواتی) و سکولاریسم هم یعنی دین و مذهب مسئله ایست شخصی و نباید حاکم بر جامعه باشد, البته همه ادیان و مذاهب آزاد بوده و حمایت خواهند شد.  آنچه میگویم بقدر فهم توست, مردم اندر حسرت فهم درست.
 
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شک به تنها چیزی که دارم اعتماده
از اینا که خوبن و مِلو دورم زیاده
ازین سیاسی پیاسیهای استفراغی
مُنگل, گاگول یه چیزه استثنایی
باید باشی و ببینی شکل این اُسکولیسمو
افت داره واسم لیست کنم اسم و رسمو
که هر ننه قمری بیاد توجیم کنه
حاجی لُپ کلام بگم, اوضامون بَده 
واسه ما دو دوتا, سه تائه خیلی کره
اگه بگم کف میکنی که پس تِز نده
نفهم شاعر تمبونی با کمکیه بنگه
نباشه کف میکنه و هی قافیه تنگه
قدِ نخود نمیدونه از عروض تئوریا
کلاه چپی میذاره واسه ما و میشه لورکا
تا حرف که میشه هر کدومشون انیشتینن
فرق بین گه و گوشت کوبیده رو نمیفهمن
نفهم لوده دلقکِ قلم به مزده
میشینه کُک میزنه تو فیسبوک تِز میده
روشن فکرانه از چیزه عمو بالا میره
فکر میکنه که حالا عدده واسه ما
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Dear Masoud:

Sorry! Ho Chi Minh wrote eight letters, not six during that period. My mistake!

G. Rahmanian

G. Rahmanian jaan,

As far as I am able to determine, Mr. Vahedi is one of the most thoughtful and honest persons that came out of the reformist faction of the Green Movement. It is bizarre to make such weird and vicious personal attacks on him. It is one thing to provide criticisms of someone’s arguments, and totally another to make insults and personal attacks.

I will try to write more tomorrow. I have been teaching since 9:00 a.m. today and had a pretty long day. Just wanted to acknowledge your post. I will try to find and read Ho’s letters to Truman. I knew that he had written to American president, but was not sure it was FDR, or Truman or Eisenhower.

Thank you.

Best,

Masoud

NIAC and Hassan Dai

I have been following this thread with interest. Only recently I started researching NAIC. Like most Iranians, I had the image of a lobby for Iranian-American issue in mind. It has been an eye opening experience for me. Hassan Dai has done a wonderful job exposing them. I am not fond of anyone who has worked with bazagan in the past. However, this is not about Dai but about the evidence he presents. People like Hammand resort to character assassination to avoid dealing with the facts and documents that Dai presents. They are irrefutable. NIAC is an agent of the regime. No question. See for yourselves:

www.iranianlobby.com 

VPK

With you this site will never be a single voice site. You singlehandedly fill in the void for all different voices very nicely! Keep up the good work. 

 P.S. Do you every sleep or work? just wondering ;) 

Dear Masoud:

Mammad has very little credibility when it comes to his political views on Iran. He has, unabashedly used double-standards, charlatanism and a revisionist approach to history to argue his views. What can you expect of a so-called, "political analyst" who, after living in the US for almost four decades, has trouble understanding its politics. I'm sure you have seen how he says he regrets voting for Obama. If he had any notion as how politics in the US works, he wouldn't even bother to go to the ballot box. It's funny that as conceited as he has become over the years, he sees his vote as crucial in getting Obama elected as president. His disillusionment vis-a-vis President Obama's foreign policy says a lot about his incompetence to deal with the US political scene and his world outlook that is decidedly constrained by his ideology. How can a man's integrity not be in doubt when he sees politics only in a lopsided and hypocritical manner? He also calls Mr. Vahedi an idiot while championing the cause of NIAC and giving the organization his unmitigated support. You mentioned ANC and others, please check the communist Ho Chi Minh's letters to President Truman as well, if you haven't done so yet. In a matter of 4 months, between October of 1945 to February of 1946, Ho Chi Minh wrote six letters to President Truman.