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Is Dr. Amir-Arjomand another Ahmad Chalabi as well??????

Mamad,

1. Did you know that Dr. Ardeshir Amir-Arjomand (Mir-Hussein Mousavi's representative aborad) wanted to meet U.S. government officials? And reportedly, he was only able to meet low level U.S. government officials?

//iraniansforum.com/index.php/washington-insight/285-2011-09-29-20-14-30

2. Hasan Dai alleges that he fond this info during the court discovery process. Trita Parsi and NIAC can either publicly admit this or deny this.

3. Assuming the info is true, would you also call Dr. Amir-Arjomand, "Iran’s Ahamd Chalabi"??????

Answer these questions, while I compose responses to the rest of your nonsense.

Masoud

JM supports republican, secular, democracy

MM,

Look at the date of the Los Angeles Times interview with me. It was in July 2003. Currently, I am not the spokesperson for the INF.

JM in October 1978 officially announced that it opposed monarchy and supports a republican form of government. In summer of 1979, JM officially announced that it opposed the vf constitution. Again between sept and December 1978, JM officially condemned the vf constitution as dictatorial, anti-democratic, and reactionary.

JM supports a republican constitution, separation of religion and the state, and democracy (free and democratic elections for Majles and presidency).

MK

Mumbo jumbo

When people run out of arguments, they begin saying things that are neither true, nor could possibly be true.

Regarding Trita Parsi and NIAC

I do not support NIAC and Trita Parsi about everything that they do. I am neither a member of NIAC, nor a contributor. I do not even take part in their meetings and fund raising events in the LA area, even though I get invited. I have met Parsi exactly once in my entire life in a conference. I do support NIAC and Parsi regarding their opposition to de-listing of MKO from the terrorist list. But, I would have done it, regardless. Long before NIAC existed, I was oposed to MKO. For me, it is personal.

Regarding Parsi giving lectures to CIA, MK specifically posted a blog and allowed himself to interrogate me about it. I responded that if I were Parsi, I would not do it. As a matter of fact, I have been approached twice for the same type of lectures, and I said no (I have documented this for future references).

But, unlike people like MK, I cannot decide for others. At the same time, equating giving lectures to the CIA and working with it the way Chalabi did and helped provoke invasion of Iraq is outlandish and outrageous. It is even more outrageous if we recognize that the same people who attack Parsi for giving lectures to the CIA are also advocating U.S. help to overthrow the VF regime, and support Vahedi's call for "negotiating" with the U.S. and getting help from it, as if one can separate the CIA, DIA, NSA, etc., from the rest of any American administration.

Now, some points about the Los Angeles Times articles of 2003 that all of a suddent MK throws at people:

1. Three factions of the National Front? As the Persian proverb goes, moorcheh chieh keh kallah paachash baasheh? I live in southern California, and I know everyone who is politically active. Who NF has here? Just one that is carbon copy of MK. Let us see if the NF can gather 50 people here now.

2. The article says: The group, like many Iranian Americans interviewed, says it welcomes U.S. moral and political support for changing the Iranian government, but believes that military intervention would only set back efforts to reform Iran from within.

Does MK still believe in the principles? Does he still oppose military attacks? Apparently not. In an article published in a Turkish website,

//www.turkishweekly.net/op-ed/2896/the-plot-t...

MK called for "strong action" by the U.S. and Saudi Arabia to the alleged plot by Qods force to kill Saudi Arabia's ambassador to Washington. Just so that there would not be any doubt, here is how he defined "strong action":

If the Obama administration were to respond strongly (e.g., call for the replacement of the current regime with democracy, boycott of oil purchases from the regime, military strikes), then we will observe a serious escalation in the U.S.-Iran confrontation.

Then, MK advocates "strong action," not just by the U.S. but also by Saudi Arabia, i.e. a historic enemy of Iran whose enmity towards Iran pre-dates the 1979 revolution, is a totally corrput dictatorship, and has been opposed to democracy movements in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, and Bahrain, has militarily intervened in Bahrain, and is trying to instal a puppet salafi-wahabi regime in Syria that will be even worse that the butcher that Syria now has. This is what MK said:

If the Obama administration does not respond strongly, that will show to the people of the Middle East the utter collapse of American might, which would encourage and galvanize Iran and its proxies to make further violent attacks on the U.S. and its allies. If the U.S. does not respond strongly, a serious confrontation between Iran and Saudi Arabia is the likely outcome with the very high likelihood of a regional conflagration. If Saudi Arabia does not use a strong response either, that would clearly show to Iran's leaders that they could pursue other bellicose policies without concern for retaliation.

So, this is nothing new. I am nothing if not blunt. But, his latest "efezat" are totally idiotic because:

(a) He calls for collaboration and working with the U.S., and distinguishes that from U.S. intervention. That is idiotic, because how will someone or some group that deals with the U.S. "might" can actually separate the two?

(b) He says the way it works with the Us.S. must be such that, "to benefit as much as we can, and to make the least concessions." That is idiotic. The U.S. political establishment wants to control oil reserves of the Middle East. Nothing short of it will be enough. Besides, Vahedi - a man who up until a year ago was publishing a low-circulation newspaper in Tehran that no one read (see the article) - has the audacity of thinking that he and others like him can actually carry out such "bedeh bestan" with the U.S.?

(c) Even if we assume that (a) and (b) are possible, who is going to do the working, the negotiations, the collaboration, or whatever it is that Vahedi proposes? The last time I looked, no one inside had given any mandate to any Iranian outside Iran to negotiate, work, or whatever with - but not allow intervention by - the U.S. That is why I call these people Ahmad Chalabis wanna be! They have taken upon themselves to represent Iran and Iranians; people like Vahedi, Sazegara, Nourizadeh, etc.

Mammad

Dear JM spokesperson

Thank you for your progress report on the success of JM's Hollywood meeting.  It is always nice to see Iranian factions uniting.

What is puzzling to me is what core-values you have agreed on! Was it a new constitution of Iran or just shook hands to be against the IRI, which is BTW, a good start.  What I mean is that JM, historically, supports the "current" constitution of Iran.  For example, Monarchy pre-1979 and Islamic Republic 1979-?.  I am pretty sure that you do not follow the IRI constitution, but what is it that we should support? 

If you support a secular constitution, please provide a link to it so that we can read it.  If you are in the process of writing one, please let us know what makes it different than a few secular constitution proposals that are out there already (See below).  Thank you. 

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A CONSTITUTION MODEL FOR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN

By Ardeshir Dolat

//www.ghandchi.com/IONA/ConstitutionModel.htm

Binesh-e Novin Proposed Constitution 

http://cfiwest.org/newhorizons/constitution/1.htm

Kaveh Shirzad Proposed Constitution

//www.ghandchi.com/IONA/ConstShirzad.htm

Jamshid Azadi-Nejad Proposed Constitution

//iran115.org/moarefi

Green Lawyers Proposed Constitution

//greenlawyers.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/constitution

Iransecular proposed constitution

//iransecular.org/aboutus.aspx

I am sorry...

... every time someone opens their mouth here, there's a bunch who come in and try to shut them up. That's all I''ll say!

Hamsade
I'll tell her.

mamnoon Roozbeh jaan

Roozbeh jaan,

If you have time, please read this:

//iranian.com/main/news/2011/10/26-1

I think it is one of the more significant news that was missed by some.

Best,

Masoud

Let's take a break and forget the video for a moment.

This is a nice song:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3QJyNcglSc

Did you know the singer had a bipolar disorder a few years ago?  It was dam serious, and it was not a joke.  They live normal, but they had an episode sometimes in their life.  Some are unfortunate since they are not capable to take a risk, embrace changes even a tiny change or reunion in their life.

//www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/07/16/health/healthguide/TE_BIPOLAR_CLIPS.html#

"It's not about what we believe. It's more about how we behave and influence." Comments

Thanks for Great comments...

From Masoud and VPK. 

And thanks for the blog.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

INF Position on Support From Governments Around the World

//articles.latimes.com/2003/jul/08/local/me-iranian8

But the groups opposed to the regime are unifying and organizing as never before. At a nationwide conference held this weekend in Hollywood, for instance, three factions of the Iran National Front agreed for the first time in more than two decades to unify in their goal for a secular democratic republic.

Masoud Kazemzadeh, a Utah Valley State College political science professor who serves as the group's spokesman, said concern about the possibility of U.S. military intervention in Iran lent new urgency to their quest for unity.

The group, like many Iranian Americans interviewed, says it welcomes U.S. moral and political support for changing the Iranian government, but believes that military intervention would only set back efforts to reform Iran from within.

The National Front conference drew nearly 200 representatives from across the nation who spanned the religious and ethnic spectrum.

Muslims in full Islamic dress sat next to bareheaded women as speakers gave thundering speeches before the red, green and white flag of Iran and a picture of their political guru, the late Mohammad Mossadegh. The popularly elected Mossadegh was deposed in a 1953 coup organized by the CIA after he nationalized Iran's oil industry. He was replaced by the shah.

At Sunday's Westwood rally, members of the newly united National Front movement announced that they would join hands with student activists -- including rally organizer Gholam Reza Mohajery-Nejad of the Alliance of Iranian Students. The lanky activist was arrested, tortured and initially sentenced to death for helping foment the 1999 student uprising in Tehran but managed to flee the country.

Along with a parade of poets, scholars and other political activists, Mohajery-Nejad spoke before a crowd of about 500 people, who waved the Iranian flag and sang the national anthem.

The rally featured gruesome photos of what organizers said were political prisoners executed by the Iranian regime and banners with such slogans as "Islamic Regime of Iran = Terrorism."

He makes sense

Why are you people so much jumping on him. I just listened to him and a lot of what he says is making perfect sense. 

Here are the criticisms I hear:

• He speaks fast
• He has a mustache
• He speaks Persian
• Idiot Chalebi
• Vampire
• Did Ms. Clinton ask

What sort of response is this; just insults fohsh! For ones I agree with MK! Do you have any logical arguments against him. Is he saying something that does not make sense. I am all ears but the comments above make no sense at all.

Instead of making weird vicious personal attacks, posters should quote
what he says and then present logical arguments against his arguments.

Yes that is what people must do. If not I am not even going to bother to read your posts. What is the matter with you people. Are you so out of argument to resort to this response.

Double Standards

Dear only Iran,

There is a double standard. It was revealed that Dr. Trita Parsi had SECRET presentations to CIA, and NIAC as an organization considers this routine. Mamads support NIAC-Parsi and has been supporting NIAC since the revelation.

Could someone please explain why secret presentations (apparently for money; I have asked publicly whether Trita Parsi got money from the CIA, and if so, how much, but no official response from NIAC or NIAC’s Internet Response Team) does not make a person Chalabi (and actually get supported repeatedly because one agrees with his policies), but when a person who provides logical arguments on why the opposition should publicly sit down and negotiate with other governments around the world and get public support in the struggle against the fascistic, regime oppressing our people is called idiot and Chalabi???????????????

Isn’t this double standard and hypocrisy??????

Masoud

Logical Arguments Good; Personal Attacks and Insults bad

I do not agree with everything Mr. Vahedi says, but many thing he says make sense. Instead of making weird vicious personal attacks, posters should quote what he says and then present logical arguments against his arguments.

Most of the comments in this thread are garbage and beneath the dignity of our thoughtful readers. Please stop wasting the precious time of the readers, and present logical arguments instead of fohsh.

Masoud

Don't let IRI supporters use the oldest trick in the book

and call everyone who asks for foreign help to overthrow the IRI as "foreign agents," etc.  This is the oldest trick in the book.  Look around you.  Yemeni Nobel Prize winner is asking the UN Security Council to intervene and help the Yemeni people:

//www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/opinion/111017/nobel-peace-prize-tawakkol-karman-yemen-united-nations-united-states

Syrian opposition is asking for a no-fly zone against the Asad regime:

//www.bbc.co.uk/persian/world/2011/10/111028_ll_syria_nofly_zone.shtml

God forbid if an Iranian opposition leader asks for help from the oustide to topple this monstrous regime.   These guys will immediately come out of the woodwork to call them Chalabi, Zionist agents, Neocon agent, etc,.  Calling the opposition foreign agents is the oldest trick in the book, especially in the xenophobic Middle East.  Mubarak even used it for God's sake.  So, I'm not buying it.  

The IRI will NEVER be reformed from the inside.  It's a military dictatorship, and these people know it.  That's why they try to silence people.  They want to maintain the status quo.

An idiot who wants to be Iran's Ahmad Chalabi

Mammad

payam s most of iran regrets losing shah among the younger

generation.  Most Iranians know Iran was a far better place & time and see those that brought IRI as traitors capitalizing on peoples inexperience. Factually they are brutal savages, thats why we have stoning today, an act of savages. Not to forget an execution rate of a savage place, not civilization.

He's a vampire. I'm certain no one can speak that long without

BREATHING.

He needs to talk far slower. 

He needs to give up cocaine, its expensive for all of us.  What is it with drugs and mullahs.

 Please shave that

 Please shave that mustache.

"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." - Louis D. Brandeis

عرض کنم که

عرض کنم که خانوم کلینتون غلط کرده سٔوالی کنه. اگر هم کرد اینم جوابش.

Raoul-ali get your history straight and learn persian

if you can't understand him. Why don't you harp on the fact that hillary clinton didn't speak persian to iranians? Oh that's right you are a eurocentric selfhating iranian who worships everything european and measures progress and civilization by western standards. Your beloved civilized and benevolent americans IMPOSED on us "savages" a "progressive", "kind", "caring", and liberal dictator via a coup. Well, to your surprise, we don't want their benevolence (I know that's hard for you to comprehend). How can someone be so ignorant? If the only things you can complain about are this guy's first language and his appearance, then you are totally irrelevant to the process. Youre the type of person that, even if this guy was to speak english, you would pick on his accent. So either develop some critical faculties that will allow you to articulate more meaningful issues or keep your childish concerns to yourself.

حالا مگه خانم کلینتون سؤالی کرده بود؟

...

First of all

The United States gave these savages a very progressive, kind, caring and unfortunately a liberal king in the fifties.  If any nation OWES another anything it is the Iranians who owe the United States...

allah-o-akbar

Mr. Vahedi, Please Darash Raa Begozareed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                «بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم» درود و احترام. ماله کشی مقوله ای نیست که مختص فرهنگ ما باشه, دفاع از ضارب و متهاجم در ذات بعضی افراد نهادینه میباشد. برای مثال, در زمان هولوکاست هم بودند یهودیانی که نه فقط سعی بر توجیه جنایات نازی ها داشتند بلکه در دستگیری و کشتار هم کیشان خویش شرکت داشتند. یا مثال ساده تر, حکایت زنی که از شوهر کتک میخورد و خود را مقصر میداند. ‌اُستاآآآد واحدی که قربونش برم, اِندِ رووشن فکریه. آخه قربون اون مغز منوَرِت برم, چرا از گفتن حقایق و جنایات آخوندا هی طفره میری؟ نکنه زِبونم لال بِچه آخودی؟  مگر همین شیخ«اصلاحات» حضرتعالی کم جنایت کرده؟ اگر حافظه مبارک احتیاج به غبار روبی داره بفرمایید تا جارو بفرستم خدمتون. در ویدئو بعدی الطفات فرموده ما رو هم رووشن کنید, کی بود که سالها در ریاست بنیاد شهید و مجلس اسلامی بود؟ نه عمه جنابعالی بود و نه شوهر خاله بنده, همین آشیخ کروبی بود دیگه اخوی. ترا به شیر مادرت دس وردار.

                                                       از این نَمَد واسه ملت ایران کلاهی درست نمیشه 

دو تا «ت» بَده, تاریخ و ترک سیگار
مرض عادی میشه واسه جماعت بیمار
مثل دردِ پریود و یکمی بیشتر
داری میمیری ادای زنده ها رو در نیار
شکم سیر و مغز پیر و انقلاب مخملی
چریک کت شلواری و چه گورای فُکلی
سیاسیهای مست و مستهای معتقد    
دکتر و پرفسور با پیشوند سید
مفتی بی ریشه و ریشه ی مفتی اُمت گشنه
کِرم و کلام کذب و کشف و کتاب کهنه
شهید زنده و زنده های مرده بی کفن
چماق و چراغِ دینِ چلغوزای بی وطن
فمنیست مردونه حق زن میشه بازیچه
فالاچی با دامن مینی ژوپ و سبیلِ نیچه

دایه مهربان تر از مادر

آره عزیز جان اگر شماها قدرت بگیرید حتما دمکرات هستید و کروبی و امثال او به مردم خدمت میکنند،برو عزیز جان بذار اون نفتی‌ که امامت سر سفره مردم آورد ،مردم بخورند و بریننند بعد شماها بیائید. سگ زرد برادر شغاله.

why does this dude

speaks so fast?