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know and respect Islam

To truly know Islam is to NOT respect this fascist philosophy where its rules and regulations are solely written to keep mankind in slavery. Islam, this philosophy of hocus-pocus speaks of tolerance as long as it is NUMBER 1, otherwise it’s OFF with the HEADS.

Of course, I believe all religions are creation of mankind to control “weaker” mankind. However, Islam in its brutality especially against the people that I consider myself a part of, is unbelievable (no pun intended).

Let's try it this way...

It is always so easy to blame someone else, some other factor, some other nation(s) for our troubles...
I'm not saying that we have not been "opressed" by the ruling class in Iran (and by the Very Strong outside forces, i.e the dominant Western nations) for the past decades and centuries, nor am I insinuating that we ever had freedoms that were handed to us and which we did not use,
What I am saying is that now that we are at this stage of suffocation that we are in , lets stop re gurgitating the past and lets get ourselves together and move forward!
All I am saying is let's THINK what is to be done which will be to our nations benefit as a whole!
Please remember Iran is not only Tehran, Shiraz, Tabriz, Esfahan, Mashhad, Ahavaz and all the other large cities.
It is also all the smahll shahrestans, and small far away dehats we've never even heard of!
If there's going to be a democracy "All People" have to be taken into account.
You are probably going to say those people don't know the first thing about democracy... to a certain point, that could and may well be true. But isn't it time to first learn what democracy is and then talk about it, and then convey it to others?
I'm not saying that "I know", but Im willing to listen , research, and learn from those who do.( and I'm not talking about the so-called democracy that is supposed to exist in some of the countries in the West) Democracy used to exist in the US at one time way in the past ,but no longer!
So how about coming together and working on it?
Wishful thinking and too naive? ... Perhaps not!

to A1 the stubborn muslim iranian

Dear A1,
Dasteye ancient flag too koonet my friend!
Regards,
A.I.

Kamangir jan: I am sure by

Kamangir jan:

I am sure by reading my previous response you come to the conclusion that I do not consider myself a Muslim and am not a fan of Islam.


However, having said that my mother whom I love beyond anything else, my grandfather whom I adore, our next door neighbor, Mr.X, who is one of the most loving and charitable people I know, all consider themselves to be Muslims and live their lives according to what they consider Islamic principals. Their version of Islam might be very different to that of this regime. How can I "HATE" them for being Muslims? Why should I hate them for being Muslims? There are millions of Iranians like them. These are the people I love and admire. These people make up what we call Iran. Hate is a very strong word to use so easily. I have noticed you use the word "hate" much too often in your writing

You are very quick in recognizing Arab Muslims in Iran as the root of all evil and condemn what Islam has done to Iran. I do not see you condemn the USA for what they have done to Iran. I very much dislike the USA for threatening to attack Iran and kill many of my people. I, too, do not want the Iranian regime to acquire nuclear weapons, I , too, would like to see a democratic Iran but by attacking Iran none of that will be achieved.


I agree with many of the things you mentioned about this regime and the state of affairs in Iran. You can be sure that the people who live in Iran are well aware of all of these since they have to deal with them on a daily basis. They have a very good understanding of what is happening around them. The do not need me or you telling them what's best for them.

Re: Those of you who would like

Parviz

I can see that you are trying to remind people like me that we shouldn't be living in the past, that blaming Arabs or muslims for the current situation in Iran, isn't fair and so on so forth...

Well, the only reason we cannot seat around a table and have a debate, is because such 'debates' or democratic meetings, are not part of Islam. I don't see this happening anywhere else in the Islamic world. Islam and democracy do not go together and I really hope you agree with this one. The solution seems to be in separating Islam and the state completely, something that Turkey has been trying to achieve for a long time and its results are another matter.  In Iran, Iranians are not able to fix their 'mistake' as you call it, and there're several factors causing this. One of the reasons this regime has been able to maintain itself in power is the fact that a sector of the Iranian population are sharing the Islamic views of their leaders, all you have to do is to listen how they complaint about their government, usually in economic terms. Few mention the extreme cultural damage caused by the current religious regime. It goes without saying that when you feel oppressed, when another identity and way of life is forced upon you by means of terror and brain washing, when they are against your non-religious culture and your real history, when you clearly see that they are imposing a very awkward and mediocre subculture upon the youth in your country, your country isolated, with a devastated economy, unemployment and prostitution, etc... and they seem to have a religious answer for almost every single wrong doing, my friend, please understand, that many Iranians do not consider themselves to be muslims or of any other religion, it's our right, please understand that any action is followed by a reaction and unders such extreme oppression, where our core and identity is being questioned, it's normal that many of us react in a way we wouldn't do in better circumstances. It's been 30 years of mediocrity, humiliation, isolation, devastation all in the name of Islam. If you and many others consider that what they practice isn't islam and they are using it as a oppresion tool, well, maybe you're right (although I don't see it this way) but then please do not expect everyone to understand it the way you do. We're really fed up, it's taken too long, Iran is being really damaged. If the christian armenians in Iran had done this, we would be against them and their religion, if the jewish had done it, same thing, but it's all about Islam. Who whould be against a peaceful, and quite Islam, the one practiced privately in your home and heart? Just the way theu do it many muslims in Europe and North America, but again, just have a look at Iran, they have taken it up to a point our existance as a unified nation is danger, chances of a devasteting war are extremely high. What do you expect of us? We're asked to undestand their 'revolution' (thanks god wan't something else) we're asked to understand their abnormal devotion and love towards hassan and hussain (even arabs have a hard time getting it) we're asked to comprehend their views, terrible actions, mediocre image, we're not supposed to live like normal human beings because everything normal is considered western and for some unknown reason they're against west (not when it comes to use western banks to steal our country's wealth and resources) we're being asked to understand a nonesense of huge proportions, all in the name of islam.

Now, answering the 'jonoobe shahri' guy, who seems to be following whatever I write in my blog and leaves unrelated mediocre comments like the ones about becoming rich... regarding Dubai. isten jonoobe shari, there's nothing wrong with me saying that I don't see Dubai as a respectable country or kingdoms, because of the nasty things they're doing there, at least I have done my homework on some areas that many Iranians don't even want to look at. The magnitude and the scale of the Iranian prostitution and its details disgust 'any' human being but some Iranians. After all, muslims tend to understand each other, don't they? They seem to share their camel like lust for virginity, it's written everywhere...

Normal, avarage, hard-working and good secular Iranians are paying the price of your Islam both in Iran and abroad. I may understand some poor ignorants in the islamic countries and in the jonnob shahr areas of Tehran  but here in the 'free' west, having people like you just getting insulted for any comment about your islam, that my friend, doesn't add up.

Sepas

moronic to the extreme

What silly, stupid bullshit preoccupies the minds of our fellow Iroonis. What pathetic games we think are going to free our beloved homeland. We think all the problems are from racial impurity, religion. In fact it's just the same thinking behind a stupid stunt like this flag that has caused our predicament. This is the equivalent to Ahmadinejad's crap about Iranian spirituality -- both are deluded and have no place in an intelligent society. How sad that someone wasted money on this idiocy.

RE: Those of you who would like

Well put. I certainly agree with you.

RE: Descendants of Arabs, Get out Iran!

Amazing seeing such anger in you. You want muslims out while you preach the US political BS of "freedom for Iran"? Not sure how far back you wanna go. Even the Shah was a muslim. I guess my point is that your anger and hatred is making everything blurry. Why not be realistic that what you're proposing is basically impossible? Why not try to make the best of the current situation - which is that given that muslims in Iran also don't have freedom and also want a change, why not work together? Where's the UNITY? Every muslim IRANIAN, every Iranian with a muslim name that reads your posting is probably thinking - I'm against this crazy regime in Iran too, so why are these people sounding like even I don't belong to Iran? Your slogans, your hatred pitch only divides us more. Just suggesting that you think about it, that's all. By the way, I would guess that even though your name may not indicate that you're a muslim, you probably have some arab blood in you. As psychiatrists would think ... why else would you be so angry???? Anger and hatred towards others is the old fashion way of masking the true anger and hatred that you have towards ... yourself!

Those of you who would like

Those of you who would like to live in the past and ignore the realities of today are more than welcome to do so. Yes, Iran was once a super power and yes Iran was once the cultural and scientific centre of the world and so on. But what about now?


Are you forgetting the fact that most Iranians recognise Islam as a very important part of their lives and identities? I personally think Islam has been our nations biggest obstacle in achieving many things we long for today, things such as democracy and justice (social and financial) but I do not give myself the right to be an Arab hater and blame it all on the Arabs. Do you realize that you are insulting a whole race based upon what you regard as "history"? For you information, most Iranians welcomed their Arab conquerers with open arms. They had enough of the Derafshe Kaviani and the king.


There is nothing wrong with being a nationalist as long as it does not border racism or fascism. When you insult a whole race/nation/minority..for whatever reason then I think one has gone too far. It is easy to blame Islam for all the bad and evil things that has happened to us in our recent history and overlook the role we all have had in making it happen. I know, you are going to say "but I was against the revolution and the mullahs from the beginning". That might be true but millions of other Iranians supported the revolution and did not want the Shah. Most might regret that now but 30 years ago they made the revolution possible. Ordinary Iranians made the revolution possible. You might say that is rubbish and it was the CIA or some other foreign entity who made the revolution possible and I say remember the nationwide demonstrations and strikes that millions of Iranians participated in. You might say they were idiots and did not know what they were doing, they were Iranians none the less.


You might not like to hear these words but I think some sort of a balanced view about issues is not a bad thing to have. Maybe that is why you can not have a group of Iranians sit around one table and have a civilized and democratic discussion about anything. Yes, before you say anything I confess that I suffer from the same disease too and am not trying to lecture anybody. These are just my opinions and you have every right to disagree with them.

Shad Bashid

Dorood to true Iranians who will fight behind Derafsheh Kaviani

This is the flag of defeated people who will once again fight in the battle of Gadesieh. This time we will win, and remove the left over Arabs from the army of Omar ebn khatab. Dorood bar true Iranians, and Iran. Barafrashteh bash derafsheh Kaviani.

to Kamngir

you are such hypocrite, the other day you were complaining about discrimination and how you are being treated badly in Canada or Europe and were thinking to move to Arab Dubai. I saw the rage in you I don't blame you but before you accuse others about discrimination look inward and stop this hate. move on. if you want to be a true Persian be kind to everyone just like Cyrus the great was.keep the great Persian culture alive remember sadness was considered sacrilegious in Persian culture just like happiness is in Islam , so my Arash e Kamingir and all other true Persian be happy.

Long Live Derafshe Kaviani

14 Centuries ago the great land of Iran, home to the greatest ancient civilization, home to the best philosophers such as Zartosht promoting good thoughts, good words, good deeds, home to the first world human rights charter declared by Koorosh the great, home to greatest poets and mathematicians, Artist and scientists was brutally attacked and invaded by the barbaric hungry desert-living Arab Taziz who had nothing to lose but everything to gain! They massacred Iranian people, committed the worst atrocities by beheading more that 7 milion Iranians after they had concurred Ghadesiyeh. They forced women and children to become their slaves. Arab Taziz looted and burned many cities, libraries and palaces including Tisphone palace, confiscated people belongings and took everything they could on camels before settling down in Iran. They also burned the banner of the Kings "Derafshe Kaviani". These Arab taziz invaders eventually forced their way of life upon Iranians that has lasted until today! It is time to unite, free Iran, become true Iranians, promote our values, culture, and be proud to be Iranian!

parviz... Agelan danand

parviz.... My friend, derafsheh kaviani namdeh frhang-e iran ast. khod ra ba in namad ashna koonied.zendeh bad derafsheh kaviani.

How could flying a flag,

How could flying a flag, however ancient, over the statue of Liberty and the UN is going to free Iran?


The people who can free Iran are thousands of miles away and I doubt it if they've ever seen the "Drafshe Kaviani".


Flying the flag over the Newyork sky carries one message: What the people inside Iran think and do is of no consequence because some Iranian in the US has decided to raise awareness of the Iranian people by asking Newyorkers and their leaders to free Iran.
Very clever, why hasn't somebody think of this earlier? And then we feel foreign governments are responsible for our miseries.


I dislike the Islamic regime in Iran as much as the next person but you can be sure that these actions will not have a positive outcome.

Or is the "brilliant mind" behind this stunt asking Bush and company to free Iran by bombing it?

Derafsheh Kaviani is Iran

Iran is Derafsheh Kaviani and derafsheh Kaviani Is Iran, Dorood bar Kaveh Iranians Thank you. Thank you for Flying Derafsheh Kaviani. Zendeh bad iran.

Iran have plane to boob israil

more important know Iran and nuclear programs and all dangers dreams have Mullahs, please stop talking about past, past is past..... USA soon is so important to attack on Iranian nuclear programs don't tell me no one told us? 18.10.2007, stop Iran Iran having so dangers stupid mind to dis try the Israel.....information came out just last week from inside of Iran ....Bush go head and attack before is too late and why president or Russian was he in Iran...

derafsheh kaviani is the only way to freedom

who ever was responsible for light of derafsheh kaviani over statue of liberty, dorood bar shooma. zedeh bad va bar afrashteh bash Derafsheh kaviani.

Descendants of Arabs, Get out Iran!

Derafshe Kaviani is our flag. It was the flag our Persian army, our pride and our identity. Those behind this beautiful act are real Iranians, real sons of Cyrus, Darius, Yazdgerd and Nikbanou, Irandokht. Our Persian ancestors were the envy of others, for their sofistication, culture and love. I'm proud of being their descendant. However, my country Iran was invaded by the dirtiest and lowest of the low, the Arabs. Who literally raped and destroyed our beautiful culture. I'm against their descendants in Iran, not elsewhere. Against their diffrent ramifications, Seyyeds, Hezbolahi, akhoond and many others who 'by default' hate Persians and hate our pre-islamic heritage. That's why some of you hate Drafshe Kaviani, hate our real calendar, hate our Persian and Iranians customs and culture. You descendants of the arab muhamad, ali the killer, hussain the jackass, you descendants of the lizard eaters of desert grab your crap and leave Iran, 'before' its our turn to take action.

Get this staright: Islam doesn't belong to Iran, your damn reza, hasan and hussain and fatemeh, belong to arab lands. Iran belongs to real Iranians, not the low-class garbage descendants of Arabs and Moghols. Iran belongs to: Ferdowsi, Babak Khorramdin, Yazdgerd, Sanbad, Nikbanou, Khosro, Cyrus, Xerxes, Pirooz, Rostam Farrokhzad, and to all other real Iranians. 

You don't belong to Iran. We'll kick you OUT of our dear Iran. Damn Arabzadegane maflook. 

Long live Derafshe Kaviani

Long live Iran

Iran have plane to create nuclear weapon

//cartoonist.hajiagha.tripod.com

FBI should watch Iranian Canadian and Islamic center in Canada and USA. USa should soon attack on Iranian islaimic army and atomic boobs nuclear programs...

A Beautiful Act

Good job, this is what is called intelligent, peaceful expression. This type of expression is above art. Keep up the good work. Iran will be free.

Islam haters stay in America since you hate Islam so much

areh toro khoda. thanks for saying it. stay in America and enjoy your weird lives.

A1: don't judge a book by its cover

Iranians in America are actually a diverse group. Only the loud ones are fascist Islam haters.

Of course many of us know and respect Islam, even if we disagree with the Islamic Republic.

The "tolerance" on this site

speaks volumes about Iranians who are supposedly "free". please stay in America, no thanks!!!

It is a cultural awakening massage

I understand it is a cultural awakening massage. No name or credit is needed, thus.

Are you awake what it is happening to Iran? A land of love, poetry, wisdom, knowledge, science, exchange of ideas, tolerance has turned dark by an alien and backward ideology with no tolerance against Iranians.

Who are the people behind

Who are the people behind this damn fool stunt? How come these types never have a real name or a face and always hide behind some pseudonym with ultra-nationalist appeal ("koorosh", "kamangir", "kaveh", etc.)?

I saw the flight......

I am speechless at the genius behind this movement, well done.This is clearly an attempt to guide Iranian people towards their only weapon, (their Iranian identity) and away from Islamic jihadist alternative. Derafsheh Kaviani is true flag of Iran and we need to stand behind it and learn about it. I saw the flag in manhattan while working and it floored me as it passed by the statue of liberty. My co workers cheered as the flag passed by. surly millions saw it as well. I feel that I Witnessed a historic moment and Feel proud to be an Iranian . This, I will remember as a moment, for the rest of my Life. God bless Iran, and Derafsheh Kaviani.

Iranians can accept islam but Islam can not accept Iranians

Iranians can accept islam but Islam can not accept Iranians.

Today's Iran proves above statement.

We are muslim! Are you people hard of hearing?

Iran is a country of muslims. more than half the people are religious, which is actually low by regions standard. you are only isolating yourself by waving ancient flags. yes, they are part of our culture and we respect them, but so is islam.

Read your Ferdowsi

To Anontmous1: you are sitting in Qom spreading fear against will of Iranians to become free from chain of backward Islam.

Your are following master Bush and Cheney fear spreading.

You mullahs are marmolak (lizard)

Free Iran by destroying it!

ala Bush and Cheney