Abarmard

Mazloom, genome project

refuted the idiotic claims of superiority of one group over the other once and for all. That is if you believe in science as a basis, not your fanatic Jewsih belief in a 2000 year old joke books of Torah and Talmud which makes Jews believe they are "better" than others and are indeed God's selected people. I know your talmud also claims that Jewish soul is worth more than the non-Jew. But frankly it is regrettable that someone in 21st century still cuts and pastes the statistic of no value as evidence of Jewish supremacy.

Even if we wanted to look at your garbage statistics, the mere list of

1973
- Henry Kissinger

1978
- Menachem Begin

1986
- Elie Wiesel

1994
- Shimon Peres

1994
- Yitzhak Rabin

should tell anyone how worthless your statistic really is. Some of the biggest genocidal terrorists of the century here are listed as winners for peace. Eli Weisel the manufacturer of holocaust industry is put  together with the head of the Irgun terrorist gang! I won't mention Kissinger as Americans at least are familiar with his hands in many genocides.

As far as science goes, there's nothing JEWISH about scientific achievements you're talking about. Sciences tend to flourish where there is tremendous money for research, good universities which bring out scientific advancements and an overall scientific culture. During early 20th century where Germany was the motherland of sciences, you can find more brilliant Nazi scientists than Jewish German physicists you're talking about.

After WWII that center has changed to the USA which absorbs the best scientists of the world. Again, there's nothing inherently Jewish or American about these scientists. As you see, your beloved Israel as a Jewish country  is not recipient of so many "real" scientific prizes, despite $TRILLIONS that US pours as charity to the 5 million Jews over there. Give that amount to any other group, they'd outshine the Jews :-)

Regarding a good environment conducive to scientific growth. The entire modren physics which
is the basis for all of our modern technology was established and
flourished in Germany and continued during Nazi times, counter example
for your argument.

But Jews having a hold on the media and in particular US media, you hear the Jewish names being PUMPED UP MUCH MORE! Thus American can hear a lot about Freidman for example, but they won't recognize some NAZI scientist like Werhner Von Braun. If Von Braun were Jewsih instead of Nazi, people like yourself would eat our ears on a daily basis showing off with him :-) 

See, after all America owes this good Nazi so many things, even the moon:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

Re: Abarmard

"If you disagree then present your solution and not just slogans..."

One solution is to pressure NIAC to voice the Iranian-Americans concerns on violations of human rights in Iran. In fact, NIAC should be pressured to give equal weight to both IRI's abuses and US policies.

Then when you "ask" us to join NIAC, we'll all gladly join and even contribute to NIAC.

What bothers me is that 99.9% of IRI supporters are strongly supporting and financially contributing to NIAC. At the same time I have read many times NIAC's leaders expressing their wonder as to why those who are against the IRI, the majority of Iranain-Americans, don't join NIAC.

They have heard the answer by now one too many times. But I still haven't seen NIAC acting on it.

Since NIAC has been embraced by all IRI supporters, it has a major PR campaign issue among Iranian-Americans who don't support the IRI, as well as recently among the US poltical circles too. Both tend to view NIAC as a political arm of the IRI. Whether this is true or not is not for us to know.

NIAC gained a formidable momentum early on, but because of the reasons I explained, it lost many of its early disappointed supporters. Today NIAC represents the pro-IRI/pro-reformist Iranian-Americans, almost exclusively.

This may not have been NIAC's intention, hence the PR issue I described ealier. But still to date, they have not done enough to gain the support of the majority of Iranian-Americans.

That is why you and others who like what NIAC is doing, are always in a position to beg (or ask, demand, request, whatever you want to call it) Iranian-Americans to join.

Instead of that, you should focus on asking NIAC to voice IRI's abuses and dangerous foreign policies with the same vigour than US's abuses and dangerous foreign policies.

You also wrote to Zion, "your country and the officials speak openly about bombing my country, you don't need to play innocent."

This is a very good example. I don't know where Zion is from, but if he is from Israel, then you are right. His country speaks openly about bombing Iran. But have you considered why it didn't speak so in the previous regime? Could it be perhaps that the IRI speaks openly about not just bombing, but wiping off the entire country off the map?

Who is playing victim here? Again I tell you, the problem is the IRI who has isolated Iran.

You wrote, "If NIAC is not for you and you may search your solutions with McCain and neo cons"

Why? Are you saying that the only choice we have is either NIAC or Neocons? What kind of mentality is this? It reminds me of IRI mentality. It also reminds me of Bush mentality. You are either with us or not. Yeah sure.

You complained about us Iranians not having learnt much after 30 years. No comment on your complain.

JEWS ARE NOT BETTER THAN YOU AND ME

Jews have made great contributions to science and arts. Sadly, they have contributed a lot to degrading and dehumanizing humanity. (1) Jews disproportionately control the PORNOGRAPHIC industry/sexploitation of women in the United States and beyond. (2) Jews disproportionately control HOLLYWOOD in which they engage in stereotyping the Arab and the Muslim as the terrorist. However, Sharon and Olmert (and all other mean spirited Zionists) have KILLED, DISPLACED, and TORTURED more Muslims and Christians than Bin Laden and Arafat killed Christians and Jews. (3) Jews disproportionately control Hollywood in which they celebrate and glorify dysfunction and stupidity. For example, "the nerd" is dehumanized while "the jerk" is glorified. (4)Jews disproportionately control the GAMBLING industry. Giving credence to the adage that the Jew places money before people. (5) Unlike Christianity and Islam, Judaism sanction USURY -- so long as it is not charged on Jews. That is, Jews can engage in usury with non-Jews, but not with Jews.

good points Kadivar, Zion!

Kadivar, for a monarchist you did real good! Along those lines I am sure you have read the article by Shlomo Ben-Ami & Trita Parsi
(//iranian.com/main/2008/real-choice).
Personally, I wish Iran total success IF it has a nuke program, however Iran should one of these days recognize and normalize its relation with Israel. We have a lot of cultural and genetical bounds with Israelis.

Why compare NIAC to AIPAC?

AIPAC is an umberalla organization that promotes the criminial activities of the corrupted Israeli government in the United States through various methods that includes intimidation of American media, politicians and spying on American goverment agencies. Here all two links to check this claim:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Franklin_espionage_scandal

//www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=6890

Israeli government is a corrupt regime that has enslaved the Palestinians and also exploits the jews in Israel. Read today's news about new charges against Mr. Olmert the prime minister of Israel on every news outlet if you don't believe how corrupted to the core this government is. Or the report of the rape by the ex-president and bribery by the ex-ex presiden of the Israel.

//www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/23/israel.president.rape/index.html

NIAC is not trying to be another AIPAC. NIAC is trying hard to give a voice to voiceless Iranians in the United States. NIAC is not promoting Iranian government agenda like AIPAC does. I can understand that the blogger (Abarmard) has tried to select a cotroversial title for his blog but NIAC is not an "Iranian AIPAC" and has not set its goal to be like AIPAC.

NIAC criticises Iranian governments action related to human rights in Iran but have you ever heard AIPAC ever criticise Israel for any of her crimes? Off course not.

BTW, I'm not a male; and

BTW, I'm not a male; and thank God for that...

JJ: Will you accept the nomination?? Please...

Abarmard,

Which is your country, Iran or the US?

You say:
"The oil companies and powerful military of the United States and Israel are one, and they are taking over the politics and laws of this nation. It's happening slowly, behind it, AIPAC is playing an important role."

You also say:
"To have IR removed, makes Iran a powerful country."

With IR UNREMOVED, whose interests is NIAC defending?

So, why not start with first things first? That's to say, let's "have IR removed" and make a powerful country and then worry about AIPAC.

But I assure you, with "IR" removed Iran will not be isolated and will have more friends than you can imagine. Also no country will want to have an enemy like "a powerful Iran."

Darisuh

Thanks for the link. I agree with Menasheri. That is my position as well. It is the ideological regime in Iran and its leftist backers that are the source of the tension today.
You should tell it to these people who have a superiority/inferiority complex and on top of it a severe ideological problem/obsession with Jews and Israel.

There we go again

Q:
`...except that whose contributions did he compare? that of a whole group of people...That is racism, no matter how you look at it. It`s the very definition.`

Oh really? In your deluded mind perhaps. Nowhere else.

He was comparing the contributions of a whole group of people because the main blog is about comparing whole group of peoples, Mr. Genius.

As Mehdi explained very well, cultural upbringing, values and freedom of thought and expression among different communities are at the roots of these differences. There is nothing racist about any of this. It is reality.
(It`s funny but when your type rants about past arab/islamic contributions to mathematics or (Greek) philosophy and so on, that is not racist at all. Right.)

And please, what kind of categorization is this:

`a hierarchy is established in which Christians are first, then Jews, then Arabs, and people like Africans and Native Americans are at the bottom`

Yes they all match very well together. Christians constitute a religion, which includes many arabs, Africans, Indians and many more.
Jews are a people with a national religion of their own. Arab is a community based on language in a wide region. African denotes people of a continent... .
Yes Q, this mumbo jumbo shows how systematic your mind works.

`Therefore, his apology is in order, not mine.`

Yes, of course. Someone expressed an opinion that you don`t share and you demand an apology. What a surprise.

Listen Q, seriously. You need to see a shrink. It`s for your own good.

Calm Down Guys: Read this BBC article

Food for Thought:

//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7501784.stm

Historical allies

For a rather different take on the Iranian crisis, I sought out Professor David Menashri, Director of the Centre of Iranian Studies at Tel Aviv University.

In his small office on the sun-drenched campus, the professor - a slight, softly spoken man - told me that he did not share the views of the hawks, who see Iran simply as dominated by an irrational clerical leadership with a default position against compromise.

There was, he said, no good reason for Israel and Iran to be in conflict.

They had no territorial claims against each other and they used to have very good relations up until the Islamic revolution.

And as if to underscore that in this part of the world, history - even ancient history - still matters, he said that Iran had a very good name among the Jewish people because Emperor Cyrus the Great had allowed the Jews back into Jerusalem 25 centuries ago.

The two countries, he insisted, were not doomed to be on a collision course.

Iran's current rulers were, he accepted, a problem. But, in his view, the Israeli government needs to restrain itself too.

Oh thank you Zion, I was waiting until you came to clear things

for all of us. We were really lost and confused on our own. Once again your superior intellect has saved us.

This superiority/inferiority complex is only in your head.

This from someone who unashamedly claims to be superior to others? Sorry Zion, I know you think this is normal, but it's snot no matter how much you attack the messenger you words stand on their own. And so do Mehdi's.

Mehdi has specifically said what he had meant,

Yes, I know and I showed how it was an empty code word and does not actually change the statement have you not read that far yet? I'll give you 10 minutes.

What Mehdi said was that he wasn't comparing race/religion, he was comparing "CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY", except that whose contributions did he compare? that of a whole group of people, stereotyping by definition based on "Nobel Prize" performance. As I said (and you don't get) this clearly means that a hierarchy is established in which Christians are first, then Jews, then Arabs, and people like Africans and Native Americans are at the bottom. That is racism, no matter how you look at it. It's the very definition. It's clear to anybody who understands what racism means.

So, your lame attempt at "clarifying" Mehdi has failed. His own clarification does not change anything and even he said something in a different blog it does not make the original comment any less racist.

Therefore, his apology is in order, not mine.

Credit if you play by the rules But who makes rules ?

What are the rules ? What is the cedit ?

Than you should know one way going about solving a problem is by breaking it down to its smallest part.

So break it down for us : Why AIPC
rules America?

Regarding earlier statement and the referenced article bellow , I do not agree with
every thing the author says. But I do agree the Zoharites (Or at least their philosophy) are at the core of the
Zionest movement and do represent the elites with in the Zionest movement.

I certainly do not understand many things. We need to study more and understand .

In any case, We have to try in many ways - NIAC is as good as any!

Oh boy

I am in research and have also read studies that the our brains are divided and logic differently. That's what I have realized by experience also. It's not a question of right or wrong. Similar to those who are artistic or the ones who are good with numbers. The point here is to be good, for the humanity. Wars are not good, and offensive wars are never right. People are people and have a right to live and decide for themselves. Societies are similar given the similar circumstances.

Regardless of your brain logical capability, if you are pro Human Rights and against aggression and wars, then more power to you. Otherwise as we say in Persian:

I am the one that Rostam (Hercules) was the hero!

In other words, Jews or Christians have done whatever, good for them and you, what have you done! You don't get credit for being the same race or religion. Simple as that.

Grow up

The only lipstick left is on your face Q

Mehdi has specifically said what he had meant, and as Keyvan noted he had a very good point. So what is it you are whining about again?
How about you apologize to Mehdi for your dirty personal attacks?
This superiority/inferiority complex is only in your head. See a shrink.

I would listen to what my2cents is telling you. He is right and makes very valid points. I`m afraid though that what he is asking for has almost nothing to with the real agenda presented here, and that is sad.

[Thanks Sadaia_qesa, another clear depiction of what constitutes the base of this group.]

Q Please

I am not defending Mazloom- he had already specifically stated in another
blog that Arabs/Muslims do not have any less intellect than the Jews
and blamed their system for their failures and not their race. He was not talking about
race or religion. He is definitely showing off on Jewish accomplishment which has
nothing to do with race. Anayway, Forget about What Mazloom said.

Analyze Jewish emancipation in Europe- Generally, Jews did not
have full rights in Europe until after the French Revolution. Its
After the French revolution, when they got their freedom in the rest of Europe as well, that they
made most of their contributions in society and became succefull.

It was even better for Jews in America because from very early on
they were given full rights like the white Christians. This is unlike
the African American population which was segregated and screwed by the white man until 50 years
ago.  

My whole point is that people generally excel when they are free.
Blacks in America were not free and they got screwed and are still
paying the price. Jews in America were free and they became
very successful once they left Europe. Likewise, most educated Iranians come to the west
and are extremely successful because they are given the freedom to
think and do business. This is something that is generally missing in Islamic countries.

Look at us Iranians. We are here for one generation and we have multiple lobbying groups. We have learned the system and are free to manipulate it to our favor like every other minority or political action group does.

GOOD INTENTIONS But who are the Zoharites ?

But You have to ask :

"Does the dog wags the tail or the tail wags the dog ?"

This game is about control. Who controls the US economy ? Who controls the power ? The banking/Financial system ?

Try to understand where your Opponents Come from and

what are they capable of doing.

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The Sabatean Movement, a.k.a. the Frankists, a.k.a the Donmeh (of
whom Attaturk was a descendent and member) and all the other names that
this same group have manifested under, throughout time since their
inception under Zevi, can be simply referred to as the ZOHARITES.

This article is confused in that it begins to state that this
movement is inspired by hateful speech against Gentiles found in the
Torah and the Talmud.

Yet as is known by those researchers and scholars truly familiar
with the sectarian divisions within world Jewry, the Zoharites never
actually use the Talmud or Torah as part of the basis of their
teachings, in terms of faith or practice.

Anyone who is well informed about this subject, from the perspective
of EXPOSING the Zoharites, knows that it is a fundamental tenet of Zevi
being the awaited Messiah to his followers, that he abrogated all the
Laws of Moses, peace be upon him, and that he "set the Jews free from
the curse of the Law".

If these guys are so well researched on this FUNDAMENTAL teaching of
Zevi and the beliefs of the Zoharites, why are they muddying the
waters, pointing at Talmud and Torah, when the Zoharites are "free from
its curse".

Maurice, who suddenly turned up to challenge my articles (as an
expert on the Judaic groups) seems to be blissfully ignorant of the
fundamental central belief and teaching of the Sabatean/Zoharite
movement. It is difficult to believe they (Maurice, Makow, Bjerkes and
Co) have heavily researched this subject and then missed the NUMBER ONE
belief of the group.

The Zoharites, free from the Laws of Moses, are free to behave
however they wish, as the Mosaic Laws do not apply them. Wife swapping,
incest, murder, theft etc etc are all permissible (just so long as you
don't get caught) since such acts are considered righteous if one
condition is fulfilled. That condition is - the Zoharite must make the
intention that they are enacting an act of righteousness under the
"Left Hand of God" before undertaking the act.

This is why the Zoharites are rejected by the Orthodox Jewish
scholars. For this reason the Zoharites PRETEND to be Orthodox to the
existing Jewish community. They write commentaries on the Talmud and
the Torah but for them it might as well be on Lord of the Rings - it is
purely academic. Most of the Jewish community do not understand that
they are venerating and granting deference to people who consider acts
of evil to be righteous. And that's how the Zoharists like it, and how
they like to keep it, very much.

kayvan: don't put lipstick on a pig

Your own point is worthy of discussion. I don't believe it's that clear either. For example China is actually far ahead of Taiwan. And the USSR was far ahead of many non-communist nations with a freer system. In 1941 Nazi Germany was the dominant power on Earth: militarily, scientifically and economically. So, It's not that simple.

But that's not what Mazloom was saying, at all. That's what you're saying. But he made the argument strictly on "jewish" versus "arab" grounds. And specifically on "Nobel Prize."

Read his lists he made: they are not labeled with "free" / "not free", or "communist" / "capitalist". He did not categorize by "ideology". If he had done that, it would not be so bad (although still probably worng) but at least not racist. Instead he categorized by race and religion.

He never said "If Muslim world was free", because there are millions of muslims living in Europe and american who also didn't make his lists.

Please don't whitewash on his behalf and don't put lipstick on a pig.

Q, Mazloom is 100% Right!

Everyone knows that prior to the reformation, the Muslim world was ahead of Christiandom is science, art, Math.....This is because the Muslim world was less "opressive" in nature and more open minded than christians. Am I being a racist or would Mazloom be a racist for saying this?

If it was not for Islam, we would not have had the reformation in Europe. However, Look at the IRI and the rest of the Arab world today. All represive regimes (who were in the hands of the Ottoman Empire for a few hundred years) without any freedoms. Mazloom is saying that if the Muslim world was free, we would see the same type of accomplishments from Muslims. Since the Muslim world has not reformed (its still arguing whether Sharia should be the law of the land, no respect for human rights, property, freedom of religion......) it has not lived to its potential.

Look at all the muslims who are success stories when they leave the Arab/Muslim world. Look at All the Iranians who are so accomplished here in America. Its because they have freedom. 

This has nothing to do with race. Compare Taiwan to China, North Korea to South Korea, India to Pakistan and yes Israel to the Arab world. This has nothing to do with Race. It has everything to do with Ideology.

"Ab dar laneh morchegan" water in the ants nest

All Abarmard is suggesting is to join an organization that is determined to protect our rights in this country namely NIAC, although the usage of the term  "AIPAC" is insulting to Iranians here and abroad. The violent reactions to this suggestion is amazing! 

Suddenly all the warmongers, Israel's attack dogs and nay sayers are out of the woodworks. As usual Mr. Zion, this lost jewish soul in the iranian cyberspace, this "nokhode har osh" has joined the attack. Maybe he is hoping to start a new organization called "AIPAC2" to defend Israeli interests on the iranian website. He probably will designate Mr. Ready Freddy, Mehdi Mazloom, An500, my2cents as the board of directors.

"Cheshme hasood koor" NIAC is growing every day and more and more Iranians who are politically mature are joining it. NIAC has been given air time by the media here. You can see them discussing Iranians' issues on Public TV, CNN and other media outlets. While the rest of this nay sayer crowd continue their blah, blah, blah. 

Mazloom, we all know what you wrote

Call it whatever you want, Mazloom. I read it really well which is the real problem for you. I actually read it critically and non-superficially.

It doesn't take a Nobel prize (or genetics of a race with many nobel prizes) to see inharent racism in your comment, no matter how you backpeddle from it. Your own brain must be the size of a pin-head if you truly expected us to buy this crock.

You damn well know two things: 1) That's actually not how Americans think about Jews or any other religion in the world; especially the ones who think "jews killed Christ" And 2) You have have made a thinly vailed racist argument. I realize you think you have covered yourself, but you haven't. It's not the "CONTRIBUTION" to soceity part, it's the fact that you made these stupid statements based on race / religion. It's that you have stereotyped a whole people. You can paste entire Zionist websites if you want, it won't change it.

Even with your "contribution to society" code word, what you are really still saying is that Christians have made much bigger contribution to humanity while Arabs, Africans, Chinese, Hindus and Native Americans have not made as much as Jews.

No Mazloom. You can fool yourself if you want. But in the REAL world, no moral person measures up human potential or worth based on the Nobel Prize accomplishment of his/her "race".

Abarmard: Sorry to break the focus of your thread, but I just can't stand blatent bigotry whenever it shows up.

Q - as Q-tip

since you use offensive language, I will not be ashamed to be a "guest" in your own house, and push your own twisted and convoluted logic right in your face..

Your s/n aptly confirms your own brain the size of a Q-tip. Otherwise you would realize that, I was merely bringing example why Americans love the Jews. The code word was CONTRIBUTION to society. It had nothing to  do with being stupid or smart.

If you would take your freaking time, and read my other posts, where i made it very clear that Muslims are no less then anyone else. Rather, it is the oppressive environment under which  they live. It resulted with Muslims poor performance  on world stage.

Dear Abramard

I do agree with you that, Iranians as a distinct group here in US should have their own group which represent Iranian's interest in this country. That is fine and dandy.

The falult line in your argument (from what have have understood) is that, you claim that your version of AIPAC should also defend the intest of the Iranians in Iran. That also would be fine and welcomed. The problem is, you seem to advocate that American should support the Mullahs in Tehran, as they support the Israeli government in Jerusalem. That where you and I part ways.

In the other side of the spectrum. what about the fat cats in beverly Hills in CA. This town of 40K, has already been taken over by wealthy Iranian. They don't need lobbying groups. They want to remove the Akhundahs in Tehran. Otherwise they are too busy making money.

Khoda-ha-fez.

I am assuming with that you

I am assuming with that you either work at the Capitol Hill or are close enough to be aware of the inner goings of the institution.

LOL...one does not need to work on the Capitol Hill to understand the inner goings of the institution. However, I've lived in the area and know that many Americans including democrats agree with McCain. It is an undeniable fact that McCain, as a prisoner of war, is a war hero in the eyes of most Americans. It doesn't matter whether the war was just or unjust. Remember, this is not a moral argument. These are facts whether we like it or not.

NIAC has shown that it is not an all inclusive organization. Only those who agree with the politics of the leaders of the organization are welcome. They also sue those whom they disagree with...that is not a sign of a tolerant and democratic entity.

If we want to start a grassroot organization, I hereby nominate JJ as our leader. He has shown that he is democratic and tolerates diversity of opinions. His tent is a big tent where everyone can feel welcome. JJ has the temprament and fairness to build an all inclusive, tolerant, and truly democratic grass root lobby. Trita, Abarmard, Kadivar, Anon500, Mollah Nasarldin, Xerxes, and others with different set of skills can help him launch this badly needed adovacy group.

Our idea of standing up to the Republican machination cannot be as bellicose as those Americans who are democrats. Here is what I wrote in another thread:

American/Republicans/Independents view the Isalmic Republic; hence, Iranians:

Now... lets put this Khomeinist propaganda into perspective.

1) This regime broke all international laws, raided our embassy - an act of war - and held American hostages 444 days.

2) They're enriching uranium, developing a nuclear bomb.

3) They've lied repeatedly to Europe and the UN, the world.

4) They supported terrorist Hezbollah, Hamas, and Syria murdering innocent Lebanese and Israeli citizens for decades.

5) They supported asassinations around the world, including bombings of Jews, Americans, their own people from Europe to Israel, Argentina and Lebanon.

6) They committed an act of war against the UK kidnapping their soldiers

7) They've committed an act of war against American troops and Iraqi troops and sponsored the murder of more innocent civilians in Iraq.

This is how they view the Islamic Republic and hence the Iranian people.

If you want this view to change in the US, you should try to educate the Repbulicans; especially the rightwing of the GOP who are the most influential to distinguiseh between Iranians and the Islamic Republic. And you can only do that by educating them and becoming their friends not their enemies. Even if the Senator and congressmen have their own agenda. You can win hearts and minds of their constituents who will in turn demand from their Senators and Congressperson what is right for Iran and the US.

Our strategy should be different than the American democrats who view the Republicans as their enemy. The worst that can happen to American democrats is that they will lose the election and have to wait for more 4 years. However, the Iranian and the Iranian-Americans don't have the same luxry. Making Republicans (Senators and their constituents) your enemy will result in the death of your nation. Think about that...please

We don't need more anti-Iranian sentiments in this country. We have to live here for the rest of our lives...Let us be instrument of peace among all parties and all people.

Educate your republican friends and make peace with them instead of calling them names. They make up more than half of this country. Republicans are not monsters that you have made them out to be.

PedramMoallemian, Shams Vazir and Q

Great points and thanks.

Q, I just did not want to lose focus. This is another set of discussion.

NIAC

Thanks for your article Abarmard I totally agree with you. Iranians need to engage in the American political system and NIAC is a good approach. I hear people complain that NIAC is not sufficiently focused on IRI. In my opinion NIAC's job is to represent us to the American government not to the IRI. Maybe we need another organization tasked with the relationship of expatriates with IRI but that is another issue. NIAC is opposed to war with Iran, that does not mean they support the mullahs.

Why is it so hard for some people to understand that opposition to war does not equal supporting the IRI government?

Mehdi Mazloom, your list proves JEWS are not very bright

when compared to Christians.

let us take your 5th grade mentality of judging people's worth with a list of "prize" winners.

An American will rightly conclude that Jews and Israelis are very stupid compared to Christians and Americans.

Most Prize winners in all categories are Christian, that means they must be smarter than Jews. Many more Americans and Christian Europeans have received the prize than Jews. Hardly any actual Israelis have.

The conclusion is that Jews may be smarter than Arabs, but they are dumber than Christians. Are you ready to accept this or are you a hypocrite?

Some other direct implications from your childish way of thinking:

- Hardly any Chinese or Japanese win the Nobel prize, that must mean those people are even dumber than Arabs!

- Iranians are dumber than Arabs since they have only one nobel prize, but Arabs have many.

- Jews in Iran are tied for dumbest people on Earth. None of them have ever won a nobel prize!

- Iranians in general are stronger and more physically fit than Jews because Iran has won more Olympic medals than Israel has.

- Arabs in UAE must be smarter and have more enginuity than Israel because they transformed Dubai from "almost nothing" to the business center and a real wonder of the world in only 10 years which is faster than Israel, and on top of that they didn't do it with cherity money donated from Europe and America in the form of foreign aid

If you are stupid enough to reduce human self worth to these silly European-made "measures" you have no choice but to put Iran way down on the bottom of the list, even before IRI. And, on top of that, you have to accept that Christians in general are better at everyting than Jews. They even financed all the "achievements" of Israel, so it's not even a Jewish accomplishment.

However, most people are smarter than to reduce humanity to numbers like that. In my opinion only insecure racists who desperately want to show why their own "group" is somehow "superior" than another group of human beings use this kind of analysis.

to "my2cents1"

Since I don't like generalizations, I am asking if you could clarify this:

You write "Unfortunately, NIAC already has a tainted reputation on the Capitol Hill."

I am assuming with that you either work at the Capitol Hill or are close enough to be aware of the inner goings of the institution. Could you please elaborate as to any evidence that may be the case, who are the players that have volunteered this "tainted" outlookand if possible how you have come across such information please.

Also, the only evidence you offer is NIAC's "bullying" letter to a "war hero", in the person of Sen. John McCain. The same Senator that (even in jest) offers ten ways to kill Iranians and "bomb Iran" tunes. If you believe being a hero is one unjustified war (Vietnam) offers life immunity for the person to insist on continuing another one (Iraq) and possibly start a third (Iran), then we have some fundametntal differences of the opinion.

I thank NIAC for standing up to McCain and Abarmard for writing this, then apparently spending the entire day standing up to what I can only call the abuse.

Unfortunately, NIAC already

Unfortunately, NIAC already has a tainted reputation on the Capitol Hill. NIAC's credibility is in disrepute. Integrity is fundamental in a bottom up grass root movement and if NIAC had that essential character, Abarmard et al would not have to had to beg for Iranians to join the organization.

If NIAC was not such a partisan organizations, Iranians of all stripes would be flocking toward NIAC and begging them to build a stron lobby to protect the Iranian's interests. Sadly, NIAC has only added more fuel to the fire of anti-Iranianism among the Republicans. The latest NIAC's Fiasco writing to Senator McCain and basically bullying a war hero has already cost us a great deal.

Disrespecting and antagonizing Republicans will not solve any of our problems. NIAC could have written a much more respectful letter and they also could have invited him to discuss their sides. We want the Republicans to feel empathy and sympathy toward the Iranian people not animosity and more hatred...We don't need to demonize ourselves!!

McCain Issues Top Ten Funniest Ways to Kill Iranians

//www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/mccain...

www.JohnMcCain.com/funnywaystokilliranians.

The list ends with what Sen. McCain dubs the number one funniest way to kill Iranians: "Vote for me." You think he is joking??? I don't think so.

Does NIAC ever think about the consequences of its reckless actions on behalf of all of us???

WAKE UP IRANIAN-AMERICAN YOU ARE NEXT -- PACK YOUR BAG

AIPAC = Hizbollah = Alqaeda = Fascism = Racism = Hate = Blood

AIPAC was formed to act as a special interest group or lobby group for the state of Israel in order to protect their interest here in USA and in the world.

Nazi Israel like the Nazi Germany discriminated people of other religions and ethnicity. The Naziz created ghettos, so have done Israelis. For the past 50 years under the USA and European protection they have committed crimes against humanity that is unimaginable. They get support from right wing Evangelical churches and their leaders as well as AIPAC and US government.

Your TAX MONEY pays ISRAEL over 100 billion dollars a year in USA aid.

Iranian regime is a horrible regime there is no questions about that. However, everyone knows that 90% or the majority of Iranians oppose their regime but live in fear of execution and prosecution, therefore, they say nothing.

I see regimes and organizations such as AIPAC, Hizbollah, Hamas, Hizbollah, Iran and Israel as a menace to world peace.

Unlike Iran, Israeli people can voice their anger and opposition to their governmnet crimes against humanity.

My question to the Israeli is what is the difference between you and a Nazi, when you kill someone with hate?

Hate is a disease that is now spreading here in US society and against us Iranians.

WAKE UP Iranian-American you are NEXT

Dear Mehdi Mazloom

This is a different issue. Would be interesting to discuss this in another blog. This is for those who are Iranian and want to have a voice.

Thanks