Amir Parviz for secular monarchy

That is the question

Until several months ago I would've have said maybe the Greens. When this internal conflict between Khamenei and the Ahmadinejad-Mashaei bloc erupted there were solid signs that some element in the IRGC allied to these two was obviously connected to some foreign element wanting to change the structure of the regime and impliment some plan of rapproachment with movers and shakers in the West (all predicated upon financial and economic interests). Now I am leaning on the possibility that the MEK is being groomed somehow for such a roll. Of course those doing the grooming appear desperate to me because the MEK are a greater liability than the IRI and the MEK would only eliminate the center and get people to rally behind the IR. So if this is their plan, they are making a serious mistake.

It doesn't appear to me that Reza Pahlavi and some of the monarchists are amenable to such agendas otherwise they would've been promoted far more broadly than they have thus far by the Western plutocrats. Actually my sense is that the Western plutocrats are afraid of Pahlavi and a prospect of his gaining a foothold in Iran.

Let's wait and see. Right now I don't see a clear candidate but once the Syrian Ba'athist regime collapses I think we will start getting a clear picture as to who is being oiled up to fill in a potential future Iranian vacuum.

the mind boggles

Mr. Fozolie

 tabar: I already know

 tabar: I already know all of this and have been saying the same thing for 3 years. However, who is this malleable and conciliatory entity that the US and the global financial elite have in mind to replace the IRI hardliners?? The reformers??? Who??

"In the depth of winter I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer."- Albert Camus

vildemose

Follow the money trail and don't take anything on face value in this dirty international game of high stakes.

The Western powers want the IR gone, not to so much because of it's nuclear program (that's a secondary consideration) and its military threat. They want the IR gone because the IR is playing with China and assorted international players who are trying to break the back of the Anglo-European financial domination, primarily in currency. Brazil, Russia and China are the main actors of this bloc. Problem is this bloc itself is as bad as the one they are trying to displace, if not worse.

But the short end of it is that the Anglo-European powers want to displace the IR and install a weak compliant regime that will give them total access to raw materials, resources and the Iranian market. To consolidate their grip, if they should succeed in bringing the IR down, is to promote internal sectarian and ethnic strife to break up the Iranian center so that they can play all sides against the middle. That is basically the plan, and one they have been working on since the early '70s. The Shah, for all the flack he gets,  spelled this all out in black and white in his Answer to History.

That's what's going on in a nutshell.

One of the games ...

Iranian Slaves

//iranian.com/main/blog/boosboos/iranian-slaves 

 What is the US plan for

 What is the US plan for IRI?? Short-term and long-term??  We should identify their plans so we can counter them and don't be played again as we were in 1979.

"Whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither, in my opinion, is safe." Robert Browning in 'Ceuciaja'

vildemose

The MEK has become like a demon possessing this whole site! No way should those lunatics replace anything.

What should replace the IRI that will work for the longterm is the monarchy being reestablished, IMV, so I guess a Constitutional Monarchy that functions on a federal model giving some level of regional autonomy is probably the way to go in an ideal situation. The only problem is that right now there are too many forces and interests acting at cross-purposes that cannot agree on such a framework right away. To be honest, pragmatically speaking, when the IRI falls I see another dictatorship replacing it in the short term, at least to keep the territorial integrity of Iran together. I'm not saying I necessarily like this idea or am looking forward to it but when a vacuum emerges in the center it goes without saying that only a strong-man can keep it together - at least in the short term. These catch-phrases about democracy and freedom may sound really nice on paper and as sound-bites, but realistically speaking the chaos that will follow the collapse of the IRI will require a Reza Shah/Ataturk/Nadir Shah kind of secular strongman. Otherwise, let's say the IRI collapsed tomorrow, what then? Guaranteed you will have irredentist movements starting up the next day wanting separation from Iran altogether faster than you can say "booh!"

That whole Devolution was a mistake to begin with and has landed us  collectively in an unenviable geopolitical situation! 

 amirparvizforsecularmonarc

 amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

I agree with both you and Tabarzin about the manufactured devolution of 1979. But what is the solution and what is the exact plan for the IRI?? Replacing IRI with MEK?? How?? They have no credibility among Iranians?

Who is going to be doing the balkanization of Iran a la Bilderberg/Lewis plan?

//www.amazon.com/Century-War-Anglo-American-Politics-World/dp/074532309X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314308236&sr=1-1

"Whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither, in my opinion, is safe." Robert Browning in 'Ceuciaja'

It's not just my assessment, its the US Armed forces articles

Its the foreign policy papers they have presented.

Its the actions that have already occured and are occuring.

Its the possible killing of the shah's 2nd Son (who was getting a PhD on this subject of Middle Eastern Studies and was intelligently arguing against this hoax policy and advising his brother to not be tricked).

It's the concealment of the police records on his death that may not be opened for 50 years that would show if it was murder or suicide.

You are not alone

I fully share your concerns, and to me you are 100% correct in your overall assesment.

My Concerns are summarized by the Consequences of Lewis work.

If you look at how the USA is training and teaching its service personel that America will be a force for good if it helps destroy the middle eastern countries like Iran and pakistan and carve them up to fight "unjust borders" you get a sense of how successful Lewis is, because it is the current foreign and military policy of the USA.

//www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899

If only they carve up Iran, then the people can have freedom is the argument!  It is really not true in my opinion but serves oil companies and US/UK domination and control of the world, while increasing tyranny not decreasing it.

I also feel I am like the lone ranger on iranian.com fighting against this being the heart of all my positions.

Bernard Lewis

Is the true author of the downfall of the Shah and the imposition of Khomeini and Islamism on Iran.

Please correct me if I am wrong

But this whole "new map of the Middle East"-business is more of a thought-experiment to show that, at the end of the day, *some* of the borders in the Middle East might not reflect reality.

//www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899

Map: //bigthink.com/ideas/21057

Parsis Victor

APFSD, Great References

Bernard Lewis is a bastard.

Americans are so easily fooled, they remind me of Iranians

They want to put Shiraz in Arabistan? Ridiculous

Good Luck to you.  You'll need it, along with many many ground forces.

So Lewis is the real mind/guy behind the neocons, brezinsky,

samuel huntingdon, Aipac, big oil and wall street.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFVwH2ICIV4&feature...

the investigative professor is explaining the 4th generation war being carried out on libya and
next pakistan/iran that is if the trial run works from a standpoint of
collapsing the central govt and leading to civil war.

Good and true ending, encouraging Americans/Brits to not be

lured into the trap of clash of cvilizations which these poerful interests are themselves creating.

Great investigative journalism.

Lewis has passed his views on to his son, Michael, who is director of
the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee's super-secret "opposition
research section." This is one of the most important wellsprings of
propaganda and disinformation, which continues to saturate the U.S.
Congress and American media with war-cries for precisely the Clash of
Civilizations Bernard Lewis has been promoting for decades.

So the next time you receive an email showing images of Islamic
demonstrators with plaquards demanding "the real holocaust," or whenever
you hear of a mosque being built in the most offensive location, ask
yourself, who is the enemy here? Who is it that is giving permission for
that mosque to be built? Who is it that is financing the build?

Who are the people holding the plaquards? Where do they come from? Are
they representative of the Islamic community, or are they agents
provocateur, financed by the same anti-nation state elite that Bernard
Lewis represents?

If we allow ourselves to be drawn in by this kind of divide and conquer
propoganda, it can only end one way - the end of the nation state,
global chaos, and the "Clash of Civilisations."

This last link explains what the usa is doing now

4th generation warfare with proxies guided by their air power.

As they did and are doing in Libya

Goal To Prevent Natural Gas/Oil going from Iran to China/India

As this would cause uncontested progress and development.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFVwH2ICIV4&feature...