Anahid Hojjati

Ari, thanks for your comment

My blog is not just about one song. I am just curious to find out more about how our male and famale musicians; specifically song writers, approach issues like love, breakup, etc.

Anahid

The artist will have to respect your take on his work. If that's what the music does for you, then that's the end of it as far as this particular listener is concerned. For me, the realization that the anger was directed at himself for doing something that caused her to "dar ro roo  man basti," was a turning point in understanding why the singer is so upset. At 2:00-2:05 he says, "aslan nist taghsir e to; taghsir e maneh, chon kardam khiaanat." 

How often have we blamed the world or others for problems caused by our own errors? In a recent conversation a friend insightfully commented that as students in Iran we always used to say, "I got a beest," but also always, "the teacher gave me a davaazdah."

To get a bit more analytical, I feel the lyrics should have made it harder to consciously know who the taghseer really refers to; letting us sense it rather than being told explicitly. For this I deduct 3 of points from an otherwise close to hejdah work (video work not included in this assessment). 

I watched "taghsir" video again. Video is very angry

Ari jan, I watched the video for "taghsir" again. The music, video, the way the singer has his finger pointing and how he makes angry faces, it all amounts to one huge angry video against someone whom he likes or used to like. Does not appeal to me and if it appeals to young girls, it is sad since it has the message that women in general can do such actions to make a guy this angry. Not a good message for a music video. I can't even get the lyrics in the middle and it does not matter much because all we hear is 'taghsir toost", his angry face and gestures.

Dear Soosan Khanoom, Red Wine and Divaneh jan, and Ari

Thanks for the links to all the great music. I enjoyed each one in a little different way. The link from Soosan Khanoom was interesting and I liked it. Link from Red Wine with Delkash singing was very touching. About the links from Divaneh, In my opinion the lady sounded like Gogoosh in 1970s, similar voice and similar type of lyrics. The guy was good too/

Thanks friends for all the great links. Ari, I will listen to Taghsir again and pay special attention to where the singer puts the blame on himself. As far as metal having negative lyrics which are self reflective, thanks for the info.

Anahid

Try listening to "Taghsir" again, and note that in the middle of the song, the singer confesses that it was his fault for cheating on her; he asks for forgiveness. This is not atypical of "metal' where the negative feelings expressed are actually self-reflective.

As an example, here's the highly controversial Marilyn Manson: 

"In my work I examine the America we live in, and I've always tried to
show people that the devil we blame our atrocities on is really just
each one of us. So don't expect the end of the world to come one day out
of the blue -- it's been happening every day for a long time."

I do see your point about "taghsir" expanding the sentiments to social issues. "Metal" carries heavy armament when it comes to energizing and motivating.

Never mind the Damboli Dimbo music

That song Taghsir and a lot of damboli dimbo trash that we get out of the LA are not made by musicians. Here is one song that is made and performed by real musicians. A woman who has no love and no hate. Iran's very own I WILL SURVIVE.

And here is a man in love. Another piece of good Persian music.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eG7vBgpMcA&feature=BFa&list=FLGaqmj3A5egl7tqEK89HViA&lf=mh_lolz 

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تقدیم به شما :

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyWc5GdxplI

Thanks Faramarz for the fun clip

these two are great dancers. they make it look so effortless, thanks for the link.. 

Anahid check this metal band

I hope you are going to change your mind after listening to the metal band group " Nightwish"  i am a fan actually 

Especsially their amazing and unbelievable performance of the Phantom of the Opera 

Nightwish "The Phantom Of The Opera" with lyrics

Thanks Soosan khanoom and Faramarz

Soosan jan, maybe the fact that he is singing in style of industrial metal has something to do with it. I never liked this style of singing be it American metal or hard core rap. I can take playful rap but nothing this angry. If they sing angry, I like it when it is against a regime or corporations, etc. not against a boyfriend or girlfriend. Playful angry and witty, I like (may be these lines belong to Bavafa's thread :))

Faramarz, I will listen to your link later so I guess good mood has to wait :).

Anahid

Here is a clip to get you in good mood!

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TJE-9ipC5Y&feature...

Anahid

I actually liked the lyrics to Taqsir song....  I had fun listening to it .... I do no see it as a man against woman thingy but rather a lover who is mad and upset or probably has left broken heart by the beloved .   It just happens that the one who sings is a man but the lyrics  is unisex to me ..... 

But you brought up some valid points as well. ANd what you mentioned can be see in Rap music more than any other type. Younger Iranians are clearly drawn to rap.  While some of these rap music are very harsh and indiscriminately against women using explicit and outrages languages. It is better to call them PORN rather than any type of music.  Thanks to these types of music kids ( girls and boys ) these days are more into sex rather than love making and that is something that should not be overlooked. 

Bavafa jan, some Iranian men get what is going on when

their daughters become older like teen-agers or even pre-teen.

As far as men tasting what it would be like to live in Iran as a woman, some of them probably have an idea from listening to their loved ones' talks.  That is why the guys I went to school with in Iran, when their daughters get to be teenagers, or even before that, if it is possible for them, many leave Iran and comment that the fact that they had young girls influenced their decision to leave Iran.

Thanks for reading and also for your comment.

Anahid jaan, these song and singers are not my cuppa tea

And as such I avoid them as much as possible but I agree with your observation, sadly.

Wouldn't be funny if god had enough sense of humor to put some of these men in Iranian women's shoe for one day and let them taste what it would be like to live in Iran as a woman.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad