Sic Semper Tyrannis

AO jaan

Thanks for the link pal. Cheers & keep well brother !!! 

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

Indeed Rea, Indeed!

"there a lot of men who appreciate good pair of tits and nice womanly hips, so they can dive into. It's not from skeletons you get it."

Indeed! 

PS. there a lot of men who appreciate

good pair of tits and nice womanly hips, so they can dive into. It's not from skeletons you get it.

My 2 cents, lifetime experience.

You're thin, others are fat. By whose standards ?

I'm one of those getting thinner with age. And getting more wrinkles with every kg I lose.

So, who are you to tell ?  Live and let live.

Souri

While I agree with you that my view on the issue does contain a certain amount of vanity, my approach to the food / exercise issue is more health / enjoyment based than anything else.  And I take the health part very seriously.  I don't consider it to be petty at all.

Samsam & Escape

Samsam Jaan: I couldn't find the article that I promised you.  It was on Slate.com a few weeks ago, but I searched and couldn't find it.  I did, however, found this one, which is also pretty good and addresses the issue that you raised:

 //abcnews.go.com/Technology/DiabetesResource/story?id=4021965&page=1

Escape:  You raise a good point about stomach expansion.  A person's stomach is elastic and it does get expanded as the person takes in large quantities of food.  The cure for that is to consume less for a sustained period of time, and the stomach will shrink.  It takes about a couple of months from what I have seen (I am not a doctor, I'm just stating what I have seen in people who have gone through a similar process.)  It is rather painful in that during those couple of months, the person will be constantly hungry.  But trust me, after the stomach shrinks, all of those symptoms will go away and the person will be contempt will small portions.  It just takes discipline and a self control.  Before anyone engages in such effort though, they should check with their doctors and get professional advice.  

I wish..............

AO,

How lucky you are!

I wish I could have less serious problems to worry about, so like yourself, me too, could get invovled with those petty stuff.....

Personally, I'm more concerned with the brain's health and size rather than the body. But to each, his/her own problems.

The good behavior of the people, warms our heart and make us thankful.....  And the bad ones, just make us to recognize and appreciate the good ones!

کِی‌ چی‌ بخور

آقای آننیموس آبزرور. میگن صبحونه‌تو تنها بخور. نهارتو با دوست. شامتو بده به دشمن. ضمنا در مورد خوردن (و بهتر بگم نخوردن) گوشت با شما موافقم. ماه‌هایی‌ که سبزی خوار کامل بودم علاقه به خوردن گوشت کمتر و کمتر شد. که آن هم عادت است. چه کنم که عاشق نون و کره هستم. :)

در مورد اعتیاد هم چه خوبه که آدم کارهایی که به بدنش لطمه نزنه رو طبیعتا دوست داشته باشه.  منتها همه این شانس رو ندران. مثلا مشروب و سیگار و مواد مخدّر و قرصای ضدّ افسردگی که خانومهای لاغر و یا چاق - با پول و یا فقیر، مثل نقل و نبات میخورن. شاید که عادت به دُز بالای اِندرفین بعد ورزش بهترین باشه. ولی‌ خوب منکر نمیشه شد که ترک عادت موجب مرض است. :)

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Samsam my brother, EXCELLENT point

YET realisticaly we cant brush every one with the same broom since some may not be fortunate enough psychologicaly, economicaly, geneticaly, socialy, gender wise, etc to enjoy the advantages you'r blessed with naturaly or socialy. Take for instance the pregnant women who have to eat for 2 & after effects of child birth, single moms who have to feed their families cheap yet high protein/cholestrol diet in canned food or hand outs by food bank, those suffering depression....etc. 

Socio-economic conditions should be taken into consideration.  Not everyone can afford to eat healthy.  There was a recent article about this that I read.  I am in a rush now, but will find the link and post it later.      

You said it Roozbeh Jaan

But seriously, as far as I care, it is not about living a few years more. It is about pursuing a hobby that you enjoy and working on that hobby to the best of your ability.

Absolutely.  I enjoy long distance runs.  That's all.  It also gives me some "me time" to think and reflect--quietly.  And as far as this:

 I know AO is being a bit humerous today, maybe a tad on the dark side!

I'm just having fun with people's insecurities.  I was actually gonna write below that I'm a vegan like Adolf Hitler...just to see their reactions.  I thought it would have been funny, but I dropped the idea.  I figured they will probably not get the self deprecating dark humor.   

AO jaan

My good pal, one pro & one con;

Eventhough I fully agree with you that "responsible" eating + exercise + good genes + cigarettes ;:) are the major factors behind maintaining a fit figure since I can vouch for it personally having the same wasteline as I had when I was 16. 

YET realisticaly we cant brush every one with the same broom since some may not be fortunate enough psychologicaly, economicaly, geneticaly, socialy, gender wise, etc to enjoy the advantages you'r blessed with naturaly or socialy. Take for instance the pregnant women who have to eat for 2 & after effects of child birth, single moms who have to feed their families cheap yet high protein/cholestrol diet in canned food or hand outs by food bank, those suffering depression....etc.  Yet when it comes to healthy nareh khars I agree with you totaly that they get whats coming to them. Its all in attitude.

Cheers my good bro & happy sailing pilgrim!!!

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

Flying solo and Dirty Angel

Flying Solo: that's my father's motto: "kam bekhor hamisheh bekhor." Like I said below to COP, I also think that what time of the day you eat is also very important.  Lunch should be the main meal, not dinner.  And as far as exercise, I'm really not that addicted to it.  I love it though.  I makes me feel good, and feel stronger.  Believe it or not, every time I feel like I'm coming down with a cold, I go running, and I get better.  It's either psychological or it's the hormones that are secreted as a result of exercise.  I run about 4-5 times a week, and try to get in a day or two of swimming, which doesn't always work out as planned.

Dirty Angel: you should do whatever exercise you feel comfortable with.  I like running, but you may like Yoga.  You are right about the toll that running exerts on one's knees.  We have not evolved to run on concrete.  Whenever I run, I try to find patches of grass to run on (other peoples' lawns sometimes) to stay away from the concrete sidewalk.  Doesn't always work, but I try.   

A note on Chelo - Kabob

In the interest of full disclosure, and as I have said many times before on this site, I am a vegan.  So, no chelo kabob for me...don't want it and never crave it.  

anti slim, anti fit fascists!

But seriously, as far as I care, it is not about living a few years more. It is about pursuing a hobby that you enjoy and working on that hobby to the best of your ability. Some like gardening, cooking, travelling, painting. I and AO seem to like running long distances, amongst other things, that's all! Otherwise, what remains of our lives? work and family. I know AO is being a bit humerous today, maybe a tad on the dark side!

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Clean, dirty B12 Vitamin. Flying Solo!

Thanks for articulating...

that's why I had typed "games" instead of "excercise" d(g)rudge. (Loads more comments... ;)   )

Best line:

Afterall no medals are given out to thin substance free corpses.

"Stuff happens and some, one way or another, get stuffed"

So you're skinny,so

So you're skinny,so what?Have some humanity.Fat people have it rough you should take it easy on them.All kinds of problems build up from being fat and their bodies are running on what might as well be running on poison.They can't exercise just getting up to get something to eat or going to work is a task.
It's not quite as simple.Once the stomach is expanded it's very hard.You can't run it off because the body doesn't want to burn fat when it has a big stomach to feed off. 'Self Control' is on a far different level than you imagine,with a big stomach empty you feel mighty hungry.It takes alot of time for the stomach to reduce and that's why there is no such thing as a 'Hollywood' diet etc.
You have to have a good pooper,if your colon is clogged it's harder for your body to dispose of weight.

Moderation

 Dirty Angel,

My thought is that moderation is key. Also, there is such a thing as quality of life. There is something incredibly delicious about a slice of buttered bread. I would not want to give up that pleasure for life only to live a couple of years extra.  Also, I will be the last person to vouch for torture - the kind I witness at the gym. I think there must be a certain element of pleasure in all that we do, be it jogging, eating, enjoying down time etc. Isn't that what life is about?

People who carry excess weight do have higher health risks. To them it may be worth the quality of life. Afterall no medals are given out to thin substance free corpses. You could turn this into a philosophical discussion, for sure. I think it simply comes down to personal values, weaknesses and strengths. There is no doubt that the media fuel the insecurities of overweight folk to sell them stuff.  That's only part of the story though.

Flying Solo

Luckily I'm zilch at maths, but what if a person joggs or does all those ridiculous "health" movements for hours on end, taking up at least 2 hours of their day and their life expentancy "increases" by two years? 

It's all so totally fascist maskhareh!

"Stuff happens and some, one way or another, get stuffed"

کم بخور. همیشه بخور

عجب روتین جالبی‌ شما داری آقای انانیموس آبزرور. حرفت تا حدی درسته و اینکه هر کسی که اضافه وزن داره از نظر سلامتی‌ بدنی زیان میبره. عمرش کوتاه تر هست و احتمال مریضی‌های مختلف بیشتر. در نظر هم باید گرفت که بسیاری از زیاده روی‌ها ریشه روانی‌ دارند حالا چه غذا خوردن زیادی باشه، یا مشروب، یا حرف زیادی و یا ورزش بیش از حد. حتا محبت زیادی هم موجب درد سره. بد نیست در همه کار تعادل رعایت بشه.

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اختیار شیکم هر کسی دست خودشه

صلاح مملکت خویش خسروان دانند!

از چلو کباب غافل نشین که سرتون کلاه میره! پیاز هم بزنین که اشتها تون باز شه!دست ها تون رو هم که چرب و کره ای شده با آستینتون پاک کنین! با نون بخورین که سیر شین! ته دیگ خورشت را هم با زبون بلیسین!

چشم، چشم، دو ابرو

دماغ و دهن، یه  گردو

چوب، چوب، شیکمبه

خانومه چقدر قشنگه

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Great post, statira!

For the sake of our health....it is better not to be overweight!

AO that's cool by me

If that's what gives you your ticketybobs, fine. Just isn't for everyone. And it doesn't mean it's healthy, although I'm not even interested in health-fascisim.

Running and jogging to me are right-wing pursuits, that knee-hits my head whilst hitting a concrete jungle. And I'm not even an existentialist!

Like I said before, people come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. Some prefer to swim, ski, dance, play squash, sex on top,  hop around, bargain, do yoga, Tai Chi  or just walk - whatever. 

You need "fuel" to do any of it! 

"Stuff happens and some, one way or another, get stuffed"

AO, Just sign up and go for it, you'll be surprised.

Most folks just do not realise the limit of human edurance. But admittedly, this is a challenge of a life time. I want to do it and finish it at least once in my life time. I'll be 40 years old in July, so better do it next year before too late...

Yes, i have been doing marathons since 1998, every year, apart from one year when I could simply not attend because of work. I always try registering for the London marathon as I love the city and it is a good way of sightseeing running around. I live in Southern california now, so I am very lucky with the weather as far as training go.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Great Blog!

Fat people cant blame anyone except themselves. Funny things that most of them have many excuses like, we gain weight even by drinking plain water!

Roozbeh - I have considered doing a min-ironman

and even signed up for one a couple of years ago, but really, didn't have the balls to do it.  Running is no problem, and I am good with cycling and swimming, but I just didn't have the nerve to do it.  Perhaps next summer.  

You've done marathons?  Good for you, my friend, good for you!!!  tell me if you sign up for the event.  May be I'll get the courage to sign up for one too.  Post a blog about it.   

DM - Not only I do so

I do it about 4-5 times a week.  I even run in high wind chill conditions.  Have been doing it for years, and am quite used to it.  Here, read this:

 //running.about.com/od/safetyweather/tp/coldweathersafety.htm

The only time that I don't run outside is when the sidewalks are actually covered with a substantial amount of snow, which makes running on them impossible.  In that case, I go to the gym and run on the treadmill, which really sucks.  First, it hurts my ankles.  Second, the ones that my gym has only go up to 60 minutes and then stop, which means that I have to stop running and re-boot them for another 30-40 minutes, etc... 

AO, while on the subject...

Have you considered doing this?

 //ironman.com/events/ironman#axzz1BPuTFPIA

I am actually Training for this these days, hoping to participate in california event 2012. I'll be OK with running  (have done many marathons) and cycling, (fairly confident...). The swimming bit will be a big challenge as I am a lousy swimmer. I'll start some swimming technique classes in April and take it from there. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

COP Gerami - You're pretty smart :-))

Something tells me this is an excercise of some sort (not the gym kind).

Confronting people with their insecurities in a shock and awe manner is fun.

As an aside, though, I suggest you eat a bigger lunch.  One of the problems with the American diet is that the main course is dinner, which is when you're the least active.  My main course is lunch, and I eat huge portions, for two reasons: first is that I usually run at nights, and I want to have the carbs to do it; otherwise, I run out of juice as I am running.  The second reason is that I want to stop myself from eating dinner.  If I eat a small lunch, I will eat dinner, which makes me feel disgusting and full, and I can't sleep. Plus, I'll put on the pounds if I keep eating dinner.   

ROFLM!!!

My first installment on this blog.

You'll probbbabbbly die younger in your gym than on my games, but I'm pleased that you've written this blog, despite the sillyniess about people walking on demos. Trust me, fatsos can't even contemplate the sheer expenditure of energy.

It's not as simple as self-discipline. The old , you need two obesity genes balloney is of course total rubbish if you place the same people into 1980's starving Ethiopian commercials. People simply come in different shapes and sizes, but not in those horrific and celebrated freakshows.

To suggest otherwise, is very clearly inhumane on the "victims".

Fact is though, that most fat people, on the "average" scale, are just forced to sit in offices all day, until only recently some pseudo-scientist comes up with the idea that , imagine this: moving might be some help!,

are on some form of medication, and that could be as harmless sounding as an anti-histamine, and are just most probably starving. Just starving for some fruit and veg that the body needs, but complicated aisles of advertising and pesticide-ridden crop cannot provide.

The clinically obese are just extreme examples of a very sick society .

Next blog: Fat people pffft over and please don't jump on icey lakes in China!

"Stuff happens and some, one way or another, get stuffed"

Hamsadeh Jaan

Being white or black is something that you're born with.  It's not a result of life choices such as obesity.  While it may be true that some people may have a predisposition to being overweight (runs in my family actually), that only means that those people have to work extra hard, and go the extra mile to watch their diets and to exercise.  Throwing their arms up in the air and saying it's all because of their genes in a sign of sloppiness and laziness.

Now, as to the subject of the blog, the thing that inspired me to write it wasn't actually my love for a "fat woman" (a good LOL at that one).  I was at a dinner party a couple of weeks ago.  There was a guy there who sat across me at the dinner table.  He's probably a few years older than I am, and has a belly of an eight month pregnant woman.  He then started filling up his plate. He put on a mountain of rice, to which he added about equal amounts of Fesenjoon and other assorted "khoroshts."  One could barely see his head from behind his plate.  This was at 10:00 pm.  I had a salad.  When he was done gobbling up the food and polishing his plate, he looked at me and said this while he was rubbing his belly: "you're so blessed with your metabolism.  Look at me (pointing at his belly.)  My metabolism is so bad, everything I eat goes right to my belly."

After resisting the urge of throwing something at him, I reminded him that I just had a salad, and that he had a mountain of food which probably added up to 2000 calories...and that it's 10:00 pm, and that I am a long distance runner.  That shut him up pretty good.  See the picture?