bahmani

Thanks but

I once walked down the aisle at the sweet age of 19 and I can not do that anymore. I think everyone should follow Hooshang's "Free Love " advice. that sounds much more reasonable.  

by the way ... here is the rest of the poem and no I did not write it ...   

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faramarz, ayatoilet

faramarz, regarding your advice.  it was funny.  funnier than that is that niloofar khanoom is a step ahead of you and downplaying her education getting the exact same result as your advice!  suitors. :)

regarding ayatoilet expose on the education of leaders of iran.  it's a short list and just a teaser.  dr. zahra kazemi (mousavi) should be on top of that list as well.  regarding behbahani: during ahmadi's first selection into presidency (2005), i did a search on his academics and came across the resume of his advisor, h. behbahani.  he had listed his phd from university of florida in kingsville, florida.  right away, i knew that he was a fake since u of f is in gainsville, florida.  no one can make such a mistake on his own resume!  he has changed it since.  but a quick look at his resume, one can find many discrepancies.  anyone for a challenge?  here's his resume: //www.iust.ac.ir/find-32.6119.7284.en.html

note that in behbahni's resume, he lists 8 co-authored pieces with someone with the name of M. Ahmadi Nejad.  last one being in 2007, a year before last elections. now talk about a genius (ahmadi that is), writing essays on holocaust and publishing articles on civil engineering at the same time.

here's an old write-up on ahmadi's ministers following his second selection (2009) that lists behbahani's school as university of florida in kingsville, florida.  must've gotten the information from an old resume! :)  //www.roozonline.com/english/news3/newsitem/archive/2009/september/07/article/who-will-ahmadinejad-be-working-with.html

Doktor Porfossor Ayatoilet

Very interesting information, thank you!

Re: STD

Aha! Thanks!

"Manchester Imperial Institute of science and technolog " :))))

It beats "London Oxford University"!

BTW, a slight correction to Dr. Ayatoilet's (MIT) expose, the correct name is "imperial College" not "Imperial University". Imperial College being the finest European Engineering school (some argue the finest in world), producing some of the finest engineering minds on the planet :) 

There also used to be a "University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology" (now part of manchester University). It offerd one of very few undergraduate courses in "Nuclear Engineering" in UK. Now go figure how this mish mash of nams was produced on the fake degree of the confused minister of a"doctor" ahmadinezhad!

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Re: what is "S.T"

Parham Jan:

S.T.D  Saltant-Talaby-Disease

If you really want to laugh or cry ...about False Credentials

First of all make sure you always (from now on) refer to me as the Supreme Dr. Ayatoilet Kh Kh Kh! Yes, as many of you know, I received my doctorate from Massachossets IT. From now on Dr. Ayatoilet - it is.

Then take not of this: Dr. Ahmadinejad actually has a PhD in Political Science having recieved a BSc in Civil Engineering. With no qualifier test, and apparently when he showed up for his defense (of his thesis) he was told he did not need to answer any questions. Oh, I am sorry, I need to point out that he did his ground breaking research for his doctoral studies in Tehran at IUST (Iran University of Science and Technology) while being the fulltime governor general of Ardebil (if you don't know where Ardebil is, think of a valley deep in nothern Iran, far far away from the capital city ...sort of like being in the Mountains of Tennessee while doing doctoral work in Washington D.C. at Georgetown University). Apparently one of the professors asked that Ahmadinejad's doctoral thesis actually be waived (this means he never wrote a thesis) and that professor by the way is known to have published papers with major sections copied from other previously published papers (Hamid Behbahani). So much for false credentials at the very top.

Then there is the story of Kamran Daneshjoo, Ahmadinejad's Minister for Science and Technology (who by the way was involved in the 2009 election rigging) never recieved the degrees he claims he has. In his formal published resume he has announced that he recieved a PhD from "Manchester Imperial Insititute of Science and Technology" - except there is a problem, there is no Manchester Imperial ...; and oh by the way, Imperial University in London have no record of him ever being a student there!! This my friends is Iran's Minister of Science and Technology!!! No less.

Absolutely shameless.

Then there is Iran's Interior Minister Ali Kordan, in 2008 - YES, IRAN'S TOP COP - who provided everyone with a phony certificate of a PhD from Oxford University. Except that Oxford University (nor by the way Dr. Kordan too) have any record of ever attending Oxford.

How freaking shameless?? No??

So lets see these are/were three of Iran's top ministerial posts. President, Interior Minister, and Minister for Science and Technology...with bullshit credentials.

Then we have Iran's current supreme leader Khamenei - who claims he is an Ayatollah; expect he has never written a resalah (theological thesis), and was never elected as an ayatollah by other religious leaders! He is basically a fake Ayatollah. He is not even what they call a Marja - someone the religious community has confirmed worthy of emulation! This is the SUPREME LEADER now, the grand leader of the Shia faith worldwide - with fake credentials.

Both Khamenei, and by the way also Khomeini are religious frauds. Khomeini too was never properly elected as an Ayatollah by other religious leaders. 

They are basically a group of lying, cheating, frauds. Mafia type bastards running Iran. And if they are doing it, then I suppose that makes it okay for everyone in the country to do it. They have been doing this for over 30 years.

So Bahmani - don't be surprised. The sh*t runs down from the top. Cleaning this house will be a real mess ...

aynak jan

What is an "S.T."?

Anahid, Faramarz you are both correct

  Some guys are intimidated by smart women, and of course some women would not settle for any guy that is not as smart as them.   But I would argue in general from survival of fittest view of nature, less smart guys would be better off trying to convince the smarter women to mate, in the hope of correcting the defective genes. By the same token, smarter women already gifted with good intellect, may seek more athletically inclined guys in the hope that the mix would provide a kid that is strong and smart, and that's perhaps where the opposite attracts comes from.

 But lets not drift from the subject here:

People not very smart, trying to pass themselves as smart by calling themselves Doctors, via phony degrees.   Dr.Ahmadi Nejad for instance, have just learned to switch from that dirty old rain jacket to a Sports coat.   Took him only 6 years to figure  out, what the source of smell is.

Rea Dear

I looked at my Tarot cards and you are the hottest thing available right now!

But wait till next spring and your prince will come!

Faramarz, tell me

Cup of turkish coffee, then you throw beans. Pretty please ;o)

PS. I have PhD in various domains.  From international economics to kitchen.

جنك هفتادودوملت!

Depending on the type of degree, an Honorary Doctorate can be as good a degree one gets by attending school. It seems that politics is playing a huge role in this uninformed debate. Learning does not necessarily have to take place within the bounds of an academic institution. There are individuals who have accomplished more outside academic institutions than many who have gone through years of academic studies. I knew a guy who never finished junior high school, but had read every book you can imagine and could talk your head off in politics, literature, art, sports, etc. I haven't seen or read anyone as well-informed as he was. Some years back, I met a 17-year-old kid who could speak 7 languages fluently and wrote a 60-page paper on world's economy in his junior year in high school. Does a degree mean anything to such individuals? I never asked them. But if it means something to someone else, so be it. By the way, I know a person who has received thousands of honorary degrees from universities all over the world. All three of them would laugh at the type of debates some supposedly intelligent Iranians get into day in and day out.

Sorry Faramarz, you still can be a relationship counselor

I am sure different relationship counselors can sometimes have different advice. Actually, I was half joking. You do have a good point and men open up to you more about this and tell you how they feel about this subject. So I am sure that is what you have heard. However, if a person does not have as her priority the marriage, and getting a PhD is more important, then that is a different story. Also, Soosan Khanoom can meet someone in university.

Thank You Anahid

And as I was trying to build a career as a relationship counselor...

Soosan Khanoom, you go girl. Go get that Phd

You build it and they will come :). Go after your dreams. Sky is the limit.

Soosan Khanoom

Thanks to Aynak’s post, I read your funny poem and went back and read your original comment. Here is my advice, if I may.

If you are hopelessly trying to fall in love and walk down the aisle, getting a PhD is the last thing that you want to do. It intimidates most men and as they say in real estate, “you are pricing yourself out of the market!”

You see, you don’t want to be the most expensive home in a middle class neighborhood! Buyers would go after the more affordable ones knowing that they are in a good neighborhood!

So this is what you need to do. You need to “dumb down” your resume, dye your hair blond and pretend that you don’t know a lot!

This way you will have many suitors and you will have the last laugh!

people should not put their PhD at the bottom of article

Sometimes I read articles from people that they analyze politics or write about an artwork or something and their article does not make sense or there are problems with it and I am about to write a comment, but then I see that they have listed that they have a doctorate in that field. So I think people use these titles so they can obtain an automatic acceptance frm the readers. It is as if they are saying to readers that they better believe in what the writer has written since she/he has a doctorate in that field.

In news articles I do not see people list they are a doctor

Not Dr Rice,

//www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/64445/condo...

Not Dr Kissinger,

//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...

Not Dr Thomas Friedman.

//topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsan...

However it is customary in research publicans they put forward,  to always use Doctor.

so reading Noam Chomskys research papers he uses doctor, but in his articles and views he doesn't.

Hope that these examples help clarify for some the point bahmani is making.

Re:Parham

If you look at Mirfetroos's page, it says "Honor" Doctarate.   Not Honarary Doctrate.   I think it is strange attempt to cover Honarary, it gives it a really funny tone.   Since then you see all the S.T's quoting this wiseman :) as the ultimate source of truth .

Soosan Khanoom

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Soosn Khanoom, now that was funny.   A friend of mine has gone that path and  says advanced degrees makes it even harder.  From some womens  view, now  with a Phd, they would not want to be stuck with a lesser educated man.   The bar is higher, but the potential pool smaller :)

Rozbeh

I am tired of you relating everyone and every comments one makes on this site to IRI , Its agents , its supporters , etc .. 

You keep deviating from the issues and bringing up topics that are not even related and besides we all know those things and should not be arguing about it anyway.. 

Rozbeh

I paid 6 million dollers and bought my Phd and I am planning to write my doctorate thesis on what you suggested that I am doing any way ... 

I am everything you say I am ........ HAPPY

Please next time save your time and your links ..... 

Soosan Khanoom; where did you learn to question people

like this?

At this rate, I'll be confessing to anything you want me to! 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Dear Rozbeh since you brought it up

Do you have a PhD? 

Parham /Rea - seen it more from France and Germany

.

soosan khanoom. First give me 6million tomans then I'll answer!

16شهريور :گزارشی از خريد‌و‌فروش پايان‌نامه در تهران؛پايان‌نامه فوق‌ليسانس ۲ميليون؛ دکترا ۶ ميليون تومان

قانون: سيران سعدی و رضا جميلی:زمانی داشتن مدرک فوق‌ليسانس و يا دکترا نشانه نهايت دانش و سواد بود. وقتی به کسی مي‌گفتند آقای دکتر، يعنی طرف کلی درس خوانده به دانشگاه رفته و برای نوشتن تز دکترايش چند سال زحمت کشيده است تا حالا برای خودش به قول معروف کسی باشد.
امروز اما از روی اين مدارک نمي‌توان با اطمينان، سواد افراد را محک زد. تعداد دانشگاه‌های مختلف بسيار زياد شده و پذيرش در مقاطع ارشد و دکترا هم چند برابر شده است به گونه‌ای که قبولی در اين مقاطع چندان سخت نيست. مي‌ماند يک پايان‌نامه که آن هم اين روزها نوشتنش يا بهتر است بگوييم خريدنش کار سختی نيست.

مغازه‌های اطراف ميدان انقلاب روزگاری فقط کتاب‌فروشی بود و بس. جايی که دانشجويان ترم آخر بايد به دنبال کتاب‌ها و منابع مورد نياز برای نوشتن پايان‌نامه خود مي‌گشتند. اين روزها اما پاساژها، بازارچه‌ها و زيرزمين‌های اطراف اين ميدان بازار پُررونقی است که در آن پايان‌نامه خريدوفروش مي‌شود. قيمت‌ها و کيفيت‌ها هم هر جور بخواهيد گير مي‌آيد.
«موضوع شما که مشخص شد، می آييد پيشِ ما. پروپوزالت را که نوشتيم و تأييد شد؛ يک پايان‌نامه 5 فصلی قابل ‌ارائه به استاد، برايت مي‌نويسيم. کفِ قيمتمان هم 1 ميليون 800 هزار تومان است.» اين حرف‌های يکی از مؤسساتی است که در کار نوشتن پايان‌نامه‌های دانشجويی است. قيمت يک پايان‌نامه ارشد بسته به موضوع آن تا 4 ميليون تومان هم بالا مي‌رود.

//www.roshangari.net/as/sitedata/20110907174259/20110907174259.html

Dear Rozbeh since you brought it up

What is your view on the middle east situation and how do you think it should be solved?   

Do you consider any rights for Palestinians?  Do you consider a permeant peace in middle east from which at least the future generations from both sides can benefit?   

Can you give me an straight and honest answer?      

just like I did couple months ago .....

"Move Over AIPAC: Building a New U.S. Middle East Policy." 

aynak

خیلی از جواب شما در مورد میر فطروس خندیدم! جالب توجه اینجاست که قاعدتاً این خلاصه از ویکیپدیا مآخذه شده بوده، و در این صورت، به احتمال قوی یا خود او یا از نزدیکانش این متن را نوشته اند!

The Good Doctors of IC

There are some good doctors among the contributers of IC who plainly sign their last names on top of their blogs:

Guive Mirfendreski, M. Saadat Noury, M. Kazem Zadeh, Mahvash Shahegh, Kayvan Tabari, etc.

در مورد دکتر میر فطروس

"در سال ۱۹۹۲ به همت «استاد احسان یارشاطر»، میرفطروس به یکی از برجسته‌ترین
ایران‌شناسان فرانسوی، «پروفسور ژان کالمار» معرفی شد و او با همین استاد
در مدرسه‌ی مطالعات عالیه‌ی دانشگاه سوربن پاریس، دوره‌ی «D.E.A»(کارشناسی
ارشد) را گذراند(۱۹۹۵)، در پایان همین سال، موضوع رساله‌ی دکترای میرفطروس
با نام «جنبش‌های اجتماعی ایران در قرن‌های ۱۶-۱۵ میلادی: جنبش حروفیان و نهضت پسیخانیان» از سوی پروفسور ژان کالمار تأیید شد، ولی این رساله، به علت «مشکلات جان‌شکار» و در نتیجه، کوچ‌های اجباریِ میرفطروس، فرصت ارائه و دفاع نیافت،"
خوب یک دفعه دکتر میرفطروس تاریخ رو از شمسی به میلادی تبدیل کردند که
زمان  این فعالیت های کاوشگرانه و متفکرانه یک وقت معلوم نشه .   سال ۱۳۶۲
میشه ۱۹۸۳ .  پس از سال ۱۹۸۳ تی ۱۹۹۲ ایشون در پارس یک رساله نوشته که اون
هم به دلیل "کوچ های اجباری   فرصت    ارائه و دفاع نیافت"!!!؟؟؟!!!! بابا من هم میتونستم به شما بگم، اگر کسی پس از ۱۰
سال معلوم نیست لیسانس گرفته یا نه، معلومه که بعد از ۹ سال رساله دکتریش
هم بجایی نمی رسه.   اصلا نام آوردن از افرادی مانند یار شاطر که به احتمال
زیاد از روی انسان دوستی یک ایرانی را به یک نفری -- معرفی -- کرده چه
ربطی به کیفیت کار جناب دکتر میرفطروس دارد-  و آیا این استفاده از نظر
اتیکت صحیح است؟(پس از اینکه ایشان موفق به Publish / ثبت کار خود نشده)

گیرم پدر تو بود فاضل از فضل یار شاطر و پرفسور جان کالمار -- میرفطروس را چه حاصل؟
و بلاخره ایشان -- همانگونه که به اطلاع  رسید، نه پزوهشی انجام داده که
موسسه معتبری حاضر به چاپ آن شده باشد، نه به تاریک خانه ای نور افکنده که
مردم را روشن نماید. حاصل کار این دکترای افتخاری از یک موسسسه درجه سه،
تکرار قیام ملی خواندن فاجعه ۲۸ مرداد و شورش نامیدن انقلابی است که توسط
خمینی و مردمی ناگاه به کج راه رفت.    آیا این دکترای افتخار (بقول
خودشون) در ماهیت با فرهنگی که از دکتری تفاخر و نه دانش را می جوید تفاوتی
دارد؟

من آدم بخیلی نیستم، اگر ایشون با این دکترای افتخار خوشحال بود ولی ضرری
به کسی نمی رساند، خوب کاری به کارش نداشتیم.   ولی ایشون دارد تاریخ را
تحریف می کند، و خواهان بازگشت به سیستمی است که مکمل سیستم کنونی است.   
مشکل دکتر های ما هم در همین است.

In Italy, for example

2 years of postgraduate studies is "dottore".

I've always thought is was silly to find people blogging here under PhD in 'so n so'. 

Does PhD next to your name make you more convincing ?

PS. average Italian dottore is 30 and works as a night time receptionist in a 2° hotel for hookers. ;o)