bahmani

BoosBoos, Great List of Dr. Farrokh

Dr. Farrokh has been working hard to show the world Persian history and its enemies in his books & other publications.  I usually post them on IC when I receive them.  I am glad to see you are a fun too.

cyrus the great day

cyrus the great day

by vildemose on Wed Aug 24, 2011 01:31 PM PDT

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Every day is Cyrus the Great day if you're Iranian.  He's Abraham Lincoln of Iran.   

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He's getting worse on the optimism front as he gets older, he used to be a bit more hopeful. It would have been nice, if we could serialize the Persian translation of that novel here on IC. What I liked most about this novel is how Vidal reverses and turns around the dominant Western narrative of: Persians as barbarians and  Greeks  as civilized. He portrays Greeks as a bunch of pedophiles (to some extent true!), and very unkempt and dirty, as opposed to the civilized, world class Persians in thier fine fabrics and such. He published this novel,  a very positive historical portray of ancient Iran,  only a year after that hostage fiasco, and in the height of anti-Iranian sentiments in the U.S.

P.S. He has a novel for each historical period of U.S. from revolutionary wars,  to civil war, up to WWII.

Gore Vidal is indeed a great writer

But boy, he is a seriously miserable and negative person.

I'd even say he is arguably one of the world's greatest pessimists. Every time I listen to him talk and give interviews I end up getting depressed.

An American Narrative of Ancient Persia : "Creation" The Novel

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_%28novel%29

This novel has also been translated to Farsi as: Afarienes.

P.S. On a side note, Gore Vidal remains the number one, hands down, historical novelist of US.

The rewriting of Iran's history

Began the moment the Islamic Republic came to power.

Because of a mix of their hatred for anything associated with monarchy and the merest idea of nationalism and national identity, the regime's Islamists (who I distinguish from ordinary Muslim Iranians, many of whom oppose the IR) and sections of the so called intelligencia/intellectuals (whether liberal, lefty etc), have done everything in their power to denigrate Iran's history. 

They not only hold Iran's history in contempt and are working hard to revise it to fit their own particular view of the world, but they also hold in contempt the present day Iranians who dare say they are proud of their history and national identity. Typically, our history revisors offensively dismiss anyone who speaks well of Iran's history and the Iranian people's roots by labling them as having an "inferiority complex", or being "oghdei", or being "racist" etc.

And I say this as someone who is not a monarchist and holds a liberal outlook on the majority of issues.

"there can never be a second revolution"?

Your arguement would hold only if you believe that people Revolt due to "lack of cyrus and darius".

In fact the next Iranian revolution will be trigerred due to lack of jobs, proper housing, medoical care, decent food , social liberty & justice and freedom of speech...

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Why are you surprised?

This is what the Toudeh 'thinkers' have been trying to do since Erani. It is their strategy to defile and destroy all the efforts of modernists in Iran since the constitutional revolution. You are seeing the result of the unholy marriage of Shiitism and Communism. Enjoy the results.

Mr. Fozolie

You picked an interesting subject bahmani

Every Ideology that I can think of Religous Fundametalism, Democracy, Republicanism, Monarchy, Socialism, Captialism has a weak point, interms of something that is a mortal threat to its existence.

I think you accidently stumbled upon the one, that is the regimes kryptonite, which it does everything to suppress.

Irans muslim religion influences its culture and history, in some ways detrimentally, but Irans Culture and History encompass far more than Islam.  Past generatios would honor Islam as a form of tradition because it fitted in with being Iranian, however now all bets are off as Under the current scenario, there is no longer any reason to not defend the character of things that are larger than islam and diminish the character of the regime and its tenets. 

Mohammad was a Jew! That claim has higher probability of

being true than Cyrus being Persian/Iranian! 

On that note, not in a distant future there will be a day when every single Iranian within Iran and without would wish Israel nuked IRI!

Who is to blame for De-Iranicizing Iran

Your comment abstracts responsibility from the WIDE-range of groups involved (and that's dangerous): in case you missed it, I am putting a list of some of the usual suspects that have been pushing to De-Iranicize Iran below.  Of course that includes the domestic clowns in Iran that removed statues of Aryo Barzan and Persian historical figures ... but that's not nearly the entire list.  It's not even close: some of the "paid agents"  work for Israel, the Saudis, Turkey, and the Republic of Azerbaijan.   ----------------------  " by G. Rahmanian on Wed Aug 24, 2011 03:10 PM PDT An important blog, especially, when we are constantly witnessing the distortion of the facts of Iran's recent history by the regime and its paid agents."  ----------------------   

Dr. Kaveh Farrokh has also written extensively on the subject -- the culprits are usually panturkists, arab nationalists, and sometimes with Israeli helpers (though obviously not all "Jews").  Those are facts.  

Here is one of Dr. Farrokh's articles:

//www.kavehfarrokh.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/asghrazadehresponse.pdf 

Panturkism's Persephobic agenda:

//www.kavehfarrokh.com/articles/pan-turanism/

Saudi Wahhabism & Talibanism Against Persian Culture: 

//www.kavehfarrokh.com/articles/pan-arabism/ 

European Hired guns of those that wish to De-Iranicize Iran: 

//www.kavehfarrokh.com/articles/nordicism/ 

Petition Against Jona Lendering - who is NOT a trained historian but has sought to denigrate Iranian history.

//www.gopetition.com/petitions/jona-lendering-anti-iran.html 

Evan Siegel's criticism of Brenda Shaffer (a former Israeli military officer) who attempts to harm Iranian & Armenian history.  

//www.kavehfarrokh.com/articles/pan-turanism/evan-siegels-review-of-brenda-shaffers-book-on-iranian-azarbaijan/ 

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Online Groups Dedicated to Preserving Iranian Heritage:

//www.facebook.com/pages/I-hate-Pan-Turkists/108849869206769 

//www.facebook.com/pages/Biz-Azəriik-və-Azəri-İranlıdır/115517008519720

//www.causes.com/causes/241707     ..... (Rumi wasn't "Turkish")

Radcialization

I have been pretty critical of Islam and still am. It is not my favorite rather opposite. But I am thinking that West has been behind its radicalization. We did have much less radical versions of Islam in the past.

But ever since the Carter Presidency Islam was radicalized. It was a deliberate attempt by Zbigniew Brzezinski to generate a force against Soviets. He did not give a *** about Muslim people. Just wanted to free Poland at the expense of Muslims.

Yes Islam has all the makings of a radical religion. But it did not have to be this way. Jimmy Carter funded and promoted radical Islam. The result of which is now being seen all around the world. In particular the overthrow of the Shah and creation of the Mujaheddin in Afghanistan. These two actions led to IRI and the Taliban. Now with Libya; Iraq and Egypt going radical the process is gaining momentum. This is a policy that West will regret. 

I was hoping Obama would be different. That his intelligence will keep him from promoting this sort of thing. But I was wrong. The Libyan constitution is proof. Why does it have to be based on Islam as its first article?

Why do Muslims have to mix religion and politics. With the full support and active promotion by the West. I know Ghaddafi and Saddam were bad people. But when USA took over Iraq it could have given them a secular government.

Now with NATO support they are replacing Ghaddafi with AQ! I know he was a bad guy but he did willingly give up his nuclear program. He sold the oil to West. Why do they want to make yet another radical Islamic state!

A Very Important Blog!

An important blog, especially, when we are constantly witnessing the distortion of the facts of Iran's recent history by the regime and its paid agents. With regards to our country's history since a few decades ago, "Khob hatman dorost migeh" is being "force-fed" on a daily basis, on this very site, as well. It's gotten to a point where even some well-meaning individuals repeat regime's revisionism as the basis for their arguments!

Where are you? Koja'i baba

No disrespect meant, but the West imposed Khomeini and Islamism on Iran as well. They did this also as a social engineering method to ultimately destroy moderate and alternative non-Islamist Islamic discourses.

This guy is the fruit of western policy for Iran

Another name for it is the Africanization of the middle east.

And Iranians response to it has been beneathe pitiful, to quote my favorite author, because we are divided by propaganda based history and not unified.

Our lack of unity and cooperation comes from the same technique this guy is using to rewrite history.

This guy believes that reading only one book is the key to

the perfect life whatever that means.

Just read the Koran and forget everything else.

The Jews and Christians are our enemies, and if we long ago had a long and tolerant civilization that celebrated these people then that history must be wiped out.

Socrates,

Ignorance leads towards all evil

Knowledge towards all good

Which is why seeing individuals interprete religion fundamentally, leads thoughtful people to the conclusion that all religions and their teachings are not just anti-social, but are themselves works of pure evil.

This is part of the reason the West loves Islam for oil rich countries, nothing could help them achieve their primary goal of creating poverty and backwardness to easily rob them and control their development or lack of.

The tool they use is our natural desire for democracy and freedom, while amplifying the dictator/tyrant/despot/repression card, but in practice they leave us all with a Sharia based constitution and clergy calling the shots.  Which is far worse.

And our ANtellectuals go along with it like patsys every single time.

Just watch what they will do to Libya, if they can remove Qaddafi, and after a civil war comes to an end.  The west is so serious about imposing Islam, that it is willing to go to war to impose it like Iraq and now Nato in Libya. 

cyrus the great day

"Whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither, in my opinion, is safe." Robert Browning in 'Ceuciaja'

Dear Tabarzin

You may be right but please do not generalize. By the way that is why I was getting into arguments with Freethought. He kept using French philosophers are "marja" instead of reason. I have a library of over 1000 books at home. I buy on the average 2-3 books a week. It is hard to read them all. But at least I could use them as reference. Yes we should read more and not use others as reference. 

I agree with every single word of this post

Kudos Bahrami: Great post.  I agree with every single word.  (And I'll be posting a follow-up).  It angers me greatly to see  someone try to De-Iranicize Iran.

Dr. Kaveh Farrokh has also written extensively on the subject -- the culprits are usually panturkists, arab nationalists, and sometimes with Israeli helpers (though obviously not all "Jews").  Those are facts.  

Here is one of Dr. Farrokh's articles:

//www.kavehfarrokh.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/asghrazadehresponse.pdf 

Panturkism's Persephobic agenda:

//www.kavehfarrokh.com/articles/pan-turanism/

Saudi Wahhabism & Talibanism Against Persian Culture: 

//www.kavehfarrokh.com/articles/pan-arabism/ 

European Hired guns of those that wish to De-Iranicize Iran: 

//www.kavehfarrokh.com/articles/nordicism/ 

Petition Against Jona Lendering - who is NOT a trained historian but has sought to denigrate Iranian history.

//www.gopetition.com/petitions/jona-lendering-anti-iran.html 

Evan Siegel's criticism of Brenda Shaffer (a former Israeli military officer) who attempts to harm Iranian & Armenian history.  

//www.kavehfarrokh.com/articles/pan-turanism/evan-siegels-review-of-brenda-shaffers-book-on-iranian-azarbaijan/ 

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Online Groups Dedicated to Preserving Iranian Heritage:

//www.facebook.com/pages/I-hate-Pan-Turkists/108849869206769 

//www.facebook.com/pages/Biz-Azəriik-və-Azəri-İranlıdır/115517008519720

//www.causes.com/causes/241707     ..... (Rumi wasn't "Turkish")

//www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=87736981168    .... (Persian Gulf) 

تبریک به همه انقلابی ها

بابا من که بیخودی نمیگم قادسیه دوم - اینها از صد تا عرب هم بد تر هستند - نه میراس حالیشونه نه تاریخ. یک مشت دزد پفیوز روحانی ارواحه خیکشوون . ضرری که این کثافات ها به iیران زدند با همون حمله عرب ها یکی است.
من به تمامه انقلابی ها تبریک میگم - خوب ریدید به ایران.

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IRAN FIRST

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He is a S o B.

He is a  Bastard who does not know himeself and think other people in Iran are like him! 

People need to read books

And lots of them and on a variety of topics and in multiple languages. The problem with contemporary Iranians is they don't read enough on their own and want to rely on the expertise of self-appointed authorities. This is a criticism that is pointed at both Iranians inside Iran as well as those in the diaspora. A well-read and well-informed public is a threat to such pseudo-scholarship (nay, a threat to any totalitarian state) because it would pull the podium right off this guy's feet. Unfortunately the majority of people would rather spend their time in other ways then actually pick up a book and read on the topic this guy is ignorantly pontificating on.

Right now the regime has outlawed Nezami Ganjavi. Why isn't there a mass outcry about the banning of one of Iran's greatest literary figures? Answer: most just don't care and herein lies the problem.