We are truly unique people

We are truly unique people
by Cost-of-Progress
07-Apr-2010
 

After being on this site for a few months, these are the categories of posters that yours truly has observed:

- Monarchists

- Centerist Seculars (want this filthy anti-nationalist regime to become just a bad dream... want true democarcy, do not care who is in power as long as it is FOR Iran and the betterment of her people)

- Shameless IR goons (blatant show of support for the regime, probably dropped on their head when they were young....;-)

- Closet Islamists (These species are most puzzling; claim they hate the regime, but show no signs of wanting change, plays the blame game)  

- Garden variety poster/blogger not satisfied with anything, blame everything on others, definitely not a monarchist, apparently not pro-mullahs either......does not know what he/she wants, but does know that he/she should argue over your stance on issues. (this group shares remarkable similarities with the Closeted Group above, but deserves its own category).

Muslim by decent, raised in not so religious families, but cannot let go of their ties with religion, no matter how tenuous, but acknowledge the severe short-comings of a theocratic regime.

I probably missed some, but I think these are the core groups.

This is great news for anyone who supports the status quo in Iran 'casue this tells them that unity is practically non-existent among us Persians. 

Now, back to bashing each other and any possibility of political salvation.

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Free

Cost,

by Free on

For hypocritical phonies like Ayhab, it's "antellectual" not "intellectual." Everything else you said is right on the money.

 


Cost-of-Progress

Ah...the intellectual speaks

by Cost-of-Progress on

dude, it is the mentality of folks like you, the self proclaimed islamic intellectuals (an oxymoron) that helped pave the way for the theocracy and the systematic deconstruction of Iran. Now you come on this site fully utilizing your two-blog quota everyday preaching about your love of Iran (from afar) and how this is bad and that is good for Iran.

Who are you to decide what's good or bad for anyone? You can  exercise your right to free speech, which incidentally, is lacking in your islamic eutopia... that, which you've been doing. We all know where you stand, OK? Others have a right to their say as well.

I've never seen any suggestions as what the "intellectual's" remedy might be for our ailing nation.....so, what do you say professor?

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capt_ayhab

Gents

by capt_ayhab on

Just FYI, I am working on  two stories that you children are gonna love.

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you guys essentially destroyed Iran's chance for lasting democracy in
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Free

Ms. Davar

by Free on

"Many of us are, self-righteous, pathologically individualistic  and stubborn." 

How true, stubborn that is, and individualistic! That's why we do so well in America, land of individualism. As far as stubborn, I have maintained for a long time that instead of a lion on our national flag, we should have a donkey, which is also a very stubborn animal.

I hope we can set aside our differences and stubbornness this one time so as to save our abused and dying motherland, which has been getting raped by reprehensible, perverted, thieving, murdering, sandle-wearing mullahs for 30 years now.


Free

Cost of Progress

by Free on

Here's where I believe you're wrong. Iran will most likely never experience the chaos of Iraq or Lebanon, for this simple reason: Reza Shah planted the infrastructure of modern Iran so firmly and efficiently in place that it will withstand any major crisis, short of possibly an invasion.

If you're a student of the 1979 revolution, the one thing that stands out without being talked about very much is how remarkably FLUID the transition was from Taj to Turban. We went from Bakhtiar to Bazargan to Khomeini in amazing speed and efficiency. That's because all of the operating governmental beaucracies, from Reza Shah's time, were firmly rooted and quite stable by 1979, and all that really changed was the faces of the people (from shaven to beards). The country, to this day, has Reza Shah's footprint (governmental apparatus) in place, and it will stay firmly in place, in the event of a revolution.

Even a possible invasion, which is highly unlikely under Obama, would not change this fact, I believe. The modern Iran that was structured by Reza Shah will save us in the end. Conversely, Iraq had none of this stability and governmental structure under Saddam Hussein, or its previous rulers, with all the coups and incestual infighting every few years following the ouster of their fictional Hashemite monarchy in the 1950's.

Mind you, Iraq as we know it came into existence in 1921 with a stroke of a colonial pen (the British) after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Believe it or not, the British even tried to get Farman Farmanfarmaian, a powerful and skilled Qajar politician at the time, to become Iraq's first King, once his chances were lost in Iran, thanks to the Pahlavi Dynasty! 

Iraq is not a real country, and neither is Lebanon, which was also created after WWI, and gifted by the British to the French, for their help against Germany. In fact, the French suffered far more casualties in WWI than the British, who not only instigated the war for oil and the destruction of a potential rival (Germany), but were wiley enough to force the French to fight the Germans while 1,500,000 British soldiers (an ungodly number for that time) moved into the middle-east to fight the Turks of Ottoman fame, but more importantly, to secure the rich oil fields.

Point is, Iran has been a REAL country for over 2,500 years. We are not a thing of fiction as are most of the countries in the middle-east (including Israel), and as such, there's a high level of structure and modern foundation that will most likely carry us through the most turbulent of times.

 


minadadvar

Cost of Progress

by minadadvar on

Yes.  Many of us are, self-righteous, pathologically individualistic  and stubborn. 


Cost-of-Progress

Dear Hamvatans

by Cost-of-Progress on

Thanks for reading and your thoughts; some replies:

masoudA: yes, but I am still puzzled why we are the way we are. the country is all but gone yet people have the audacity to indirectly protect the status quo. What part of "Iran is in deep trouble" don't they understand?

mina khanoom: I agree with you whole heartedly. However, what you see here is hardly various political views being expressed, but self-serving agendas and vandeta. We Iranians have a hard time seeing past our own little hang ups and complexes. if we don't want it, then it is no good for anybody.

Free: I am trying to share your optimistic views cause I like them to come true. I am afraid that if/when the mullahs bite the dust, there'll be chaos in Iran with the remnants of the regime trying to reclaim the country. I'm talking Baghdad and Beirtut combined with bombing and sabotage.

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IRAN FIRST

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Free

Cost of Progress

by Free on

is right, however. All of this animus most certainly hurts the movement against the rapist mullahs, and yet, we all know that the movement cannot be stopped, not after what happened last summer.

The mullahs are clearly a part of Iran's past, not the future. It's just that simple. However, some of us, including a great many mullahs, just don't fully appreciate this fact... yet.

History is on our side, with or without these despicable hezis in the closet. Freedom has qualities much like water. It has the power to crack through the hardest of rocks. The people of Iran, a vast majority of them, want this very natural right, freedom, and they will crack open this regime, come hell or high water, pun intended.

After the massive loss of legitimacy in last year's election, the rapist regime has been dealt a mortal wound, from which it won't be able to recover. However, the rapists will not go away without a fight, but clearly, their salad days are behind them, and a great many regime insiders know this to be true or there wouldn't be as many defections in every segment of the regime apparatus, including the basijis, scientists, and the army (something that used to happen routinely in the final years of the Soviet Union).

Without a semblance of legitimacy, it's impossible to govern over the long run. They know this fact too, that's why they're itching for war. The end is near, so please do not lose hope. That's what the despicable closet hezis are counting on. In fact, that's their ultimate goal. In the final analysis, closet hezbollahis are like flies (bloodsuckers) that feed on a dead carcass, i.e., the IRI.

They just don't know any better.


Free

masoudA

by Free on

writes, "Some are college students who have left Iran not looking back, and can use the extra money."  

Some are college professors too. Some of these closet sellouts, who barter away their homeland -- their motherland -- in the service of stale ideology, or in some instances, for cold cash, are the worst kind.

What's reprehensible and revolting about these characters is that they live in the lap of freedom and democracy in the West, soaking up of its liberties and luxuries, while knowingly condemning 70 million Iranians to live under tyranny, all along knowingly promoting dissention amongst the opposition, thus furthering the cause of the rapist, anti-Iranian regime in Tehran.

These people are not only depraved, but traitors of the highest order.


minadadvar

Dear cost of progress

by minadadvar on

Having different political views are actually very normal.  Dealing with our differences in a positive way, is the real problem. 

Lunch break is over.  I have to leave!!


masoudA

Great Post

by masoudA on

Closet Islamists (These species are most puzzling; claim they hate the regime, but show no signs of wanting change, plays the blame game)  

These are the most dangerous - and too many of them.   They are not attached to Iran or Islam.  Many of them post "professionaly" - cheap handouts of about $500/month - I am guessing based on my experience in other mediums not Iranian.com.    Some are college students who have left Iran not looking back, and can use the extra money.   Most of them have very little connection to Iran or not even Iranian.   Lately we have had more than usual.