Covenant

covennt you are so cheap to beahve like this

god bahaola did never took sword in his holy hands. this is fake. May HE deal with you.

Zulfaqar110

Thanks for the information. It seems that 'Ali Sina' is very likely a Baha'i and that is sad to hear. I think that all people, including the people of Iran should be educated about all things, whether it's about Muslims gone astray (for example leadership of IRI) or Baha'is gone astray (Ali Sina and the likes of him) or anybody else gone astray.

The life of all people, has always been under the influence of political religion. Religion is not going to go away, but I hope when people are educated, Muslim, Baha'i or anyone else, they can see better and make better decisions.

I noticed your comment about the 'anonymous' user. It seems that the user 'darius' is just using an old picture of 'unregistered' users. All users on this site are registered.

And who fends for you, Basiji Faryar (=Waters)?

Are you involved in collective fending? Everyone fends for themselves, genius. Get out of your molly coddled Baha'i cage, open your eyes and see it for yourself.

The only stones being thrown are at fascists like you, your Zionist handlers and your murderous mullocratic counterparts in Iran!

DEATH TO THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC! DEATH TO THE UHJ!

Anonym. Yes, Ali Sina is a Baha'i doing taqiyya

Yes, the person hiding behind the alias Ali Sina and the website faithfreedom.org is indeed an Iranian-Bahai living in Canada. In 2002 when I started to post to the old Jebhe Melli board (Mr Masoud Kazemzadeh here was there at the time, he might remember the incident) I found a whole plethora of posts by Ali Sina there where he was outright and quite unashamedly lauding Abbas Effendi as the greatest figure of the 20th century. When I queried him as to why as a claimed secularist he didn't chose Albert Einstein, Nelson Mandela or even Ghandhi, but Abbas Effendi, he went quiet and then when I pressed the matter further he and his goons began attacking me over there in identical terms as I and the other Baha'i naysayers here are now being attacked. I then went over to his website faithfreedom.org to initiate a dialogue and found that the Baha'is there were getting an inordinate amount of preferential treatment from Ali Sina, and that anyone who attempted the same sort of deconstruction of Bahaism as was being done to Islam over there, would soon find themselves run out of the site.

Towards the end of 2003 I obtained a private email from a correspondent who had likewise been kicked off faithfreedom.org for questioning its then outright pro-Neo-Conservative and ultra-Zionist political platform, claiming to me to know who Ali Sina was in real life and that Mr Sina is in fact a Baha'i. I pressed the individual to give me a name, but they refused and then stopped writing me altogether after I pressed the matter.

This pattern of doing taqiyya by certain rabidly (even fascist) anti-Islamic Baha'is is one we even witness here in the person of Faramarz Fatteh and similar aliases. Most non-Baha'i Iranians can't detect what's going on at first. But ex-Baha'is such as myself have a nose for such duplicity and we see it from miles away. The project that Ali Sina represents also fits the Haifan Baha'i agenda because the Baha'is have a stated objective of one day turning Iran into a theocratic Baha'i state which they call the Baha'i Commonwealth. In order to accomplish this task they see their first goal as to first discredit Islam and Muslims - or any facet of Islamicate civilization, for that matter - by associating and lumping everything under the rubric of Islam and Islamic with modern Islamism and fundamentalism. In this scheme even Sufis and Isma'ilis are their target, as I first found out to my utter shock and horror on Ali Sina's site. In other words, we are talking about kulturkampf, i.e. the term the Nazis designated when justifying their attempts to completely Aryanize Germany. What's going on here and with Ali Sina is precisely what this all is, kulturkampf.

I agree that many individual Baha'is are good people just as many Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists are good people. Note I was raised and grew up in this community until before my 25th birthday when I formally withdrew from it, in disgust and, yes, there are countless good, well-meaning people amongst them whom I have extremely fond memories of. The problem is the Stalinist groupthink of the organization itself, especially its leadership apparatus and those who represent it in any capacity (like the buffoons here), not to mention the corrupt political culture driving it all which turns otherwise good people into completely blind monsters and dangerous ideological ignoramuses of the worst sort. The mentality of the organizational Baha'i cadre is not unlike the Hezbollah of the early years of the revolution and the current supporters of the regime.

But that said, the Haifan Baha'i organization is a cult and does have a sinister political agenda which I don't believe anyone in good conscience can remotely support. Also note that anyone who remotely criticizes (even politely) this agenda is subject to a barrage of the most malicious (sometimes even downright criminal) abuse imaginable, where the Baha'i attackers will stop at nothing.  I have seen many good people damaged by thisand I have made it one of my goals to stop these people in continuing such behavior by exposing them far and wide. As such with blind, ideologically driven individuals such as these one is no longer in polite company, but in a war with often opportunistic and extremely dangerous fascists.

Please read this article on Sourcewatch on the Baha'i Faith and follow its links.

Finally, to the anonymous poster: My agenda is to combat Fascism and Stalinism in whatever form it manifests itself: Islamic, Baha'i or otherwise. This agenda also entails that people like me are not going to sit back and see another repeat of the past 30 years in Iran whereby one group of tyrants are replaced with another. That is my political agenda as well the agenda to keep alive the flame of Iranian esoteric spirituality (whether in its pre-Islamic, Islamic or post-Islamic forms) from those whose explicit agenda is to extinguish this flame for the cause of their own selfish power-lust  and self-aggrandizement, be they the IRI, the MKO or the Baha'i UHJ!

p.s. BTW how come there is an anonymous poster at all? I was under the impression that this feature was no longer operational on iranian.com.

DEATH TO THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC! DEATH TO THE UHJ! 

Zulfiqar110

I have read the total lies and evil words of 'Ali Sina' and his supporters starting several years ago. I didn't know that he was a Baha'i. Are you certain about that?

There is a sense that a strong anti-Islamic drive exists in many Bahai's (especially the ones from Iran and other parts of Mideast) for many reasons.

I personally have stayed away from this confict because of what I had heard that IRI has done and is doing to the Baha'is. One can not support that.

If it becomes clear that some Baha'is are fabricating lies about Islam in a large scale to promote their own religion, then they loose credibilty. A good example would be exposing the vile 'Ali Sina' if he is a Baha'i or even supported by them.

Convenant is entirly free to print as he likes. My suggestions to him had only two reasons. One, there are Bahai's who are not actually bad people and might be hurt, and two, if Covenant confronts people in a non-insulting way, I am sure his words will be taken more seriously in the eyes of neutral people.

zulf, not everyone with a Sibil is your dad

You are abandoned in this world to fend for yourself, what a punishment.

and here you are throwing stone at everybody.

by Zulfiqar110 on Sun Aug 09, 2009 01:00 AM PDT

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Mr.Zulfaqar110

As I remember , few weeks ago ,youposted a video  ,including a very 

high definition photograph  of Mr.Kadivar   in this site.I also remember asking  you, if you and Mr.Kadivar(  an Iranian preacher who in that video was supporting The Green Revolution) are the same person.Having said that, I assumed you posted that video to show  solidarity for  tolerance and for  other school of thoughts.

I am just wondering if youare also another self-promotor for your own personal cause in this site or amongst the Iranian.

Cheers

Anonym

Dear friend,

Baha'i literature is full to the brim containing the most vile, hateful invective and the worst slander against its numerous and incalculable ideological enemies. I invite you to look at the online career of the Iranian Baha'i resident in Canada and writing under the alias Ali Sina to see the depth to which insult, slander and invective is launched self-righteously with utter ignorance and with completely deliberated misrepresentation against an entire tradition by these cultists. Covenant's post is harmless and the insult is implied not overt. What these people allow themselves, and are allowed to get away with, far exceeds anything this blog overtly or covertly imputes to a satanic idol (bot-i-ahrimani) that needs smashing into infinitesimal pieces and then some more.

More about the Con Man Husayn 'Ali Nuri from his sister & others

Tanbih al-Na'imin

 Tazakurat al-Ghafilin

Pasukh Nameh-ye Mirza Mustafa Katib be-Zayn'ul-Muqarribin

Vaqaye Rastin-i-Takur-i-Nur

Kitab-i-Qahir

 Kitab-i-Siraj

Dalil-i-Mutahayyirin

Baha'is Letter regarding Subh-i-Azal in Baghdad

Fasl'ul-Kalam

Hasht Behesht

For Adib Masumian about the CON MAN

//iranian.com/main/blog/nur/bahai-hezboll...

All prominent supporters of Subh-i-Azal who withstood Mirza Husayn
Ali [Baha'u'llah]'s claims were marked out for death, and in Baghdad
Mulla Rajab Ali "Kahir" and his brother, Hajji Mirza Ahmad, Hajji Mirza
Muhammad Reza, and several others fell one by one by the knife or
bullet of the assassin...As to the assassination of the three Ezelis,
Aka Jan Bey, Hajji Seyyed Muhammad of Isfahan, and Mirza Riza-Kulli of
Tafrish, by some of Beha's followers at Acre, there can, I fear, be but
little doubt...the passage in the Kitab-i-Aqdas alluding (apparently)
to Hajji Seyyed Muhammad's death...proves Beha'u'llah regarded this
event with some complaisance...On the murder of one Aqa Muhammad Ali of
Isfahan in Istanbul by one Mirza Abu'l-Qasim the Bakhtiyari  [Browne quoting the words of Mirza Husayn Ali Nuri Baha'u'llah addressed to the latter, states] "O
phlebotomist of the Divine Unity! Throb like the artery in the body of
the Contingent World, and drink of the blood of the Block of
Heedlessness for that he turned aside from the aspect of thy Lord the
Merciful!"

E.G. Browne A Travellers Narrative Written to Illustrate the Episode of the Bab, volume 2, Note W  (Cambridge: 1891), p.359, 370 & 363.

At first not a few prominent Babis, including even several "Letters
of the Living" and personal friends of the Bab, adhered faithfully to
Subh-e Azal. One by one these disappeared, most of them, as I fear
cannot be doubted, by the foul play on the part of too zealous Baha'is.
"Companions" (as-hab), Mirza Riza Kulli and Mirza Nasr'ullah of
Tafrish, were stabbed or poisoned in Adrianople and Acre. Two of the
"Letters of the Living," Aka Siyyid `Ali the Arab, and Mulla Rajab `Ali
Kahir, were assassinated, the one at Tabriz, the other at Kerbela. The
brother of the latter, Aka Ali Muhammad, was also murdered in
Baghdad....

E.G. Browne. Tarikh-i-Jadid or New History of Mirza `Ali Muhammad, the Bab, (Cambridge: 1893), reprint: Amsterdam, 1975, pp.xxiii- xxiv.

See also,

Baha'i Assassinations Pt. 1, Pt. 2, Pt. 3, Pt. 4, Pt. 5, Pt. 6, Pt. 7, Pt. 8, Pt.9, Pt. 10 & Pt.11 

&

S.G. Wilson BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION

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About Adib Masumian

DEATH TO THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC! DEATH TO THE HAIFAN BAHAI CULT!

Covenant

The Baha'is consider these types of representations of their prophet as a bad thing. May I suggest not to post similar blogs like this in the future? If you have questions or doubts about their religion, you can confront them in a non-insulting way.

Again, this is just a suggestion and you are free to do as you like.

To be with nice and beautiful women is not a bad thing.

If you are between a lot of nice flowers; is it a bad thing. Are these beautiful women are creation of God and to be with them does not mean that you have sex with all of them.  Like a father between his daughters. And this pictures is not a real picture. You are a teacher and take a picture with all your beautiful students; is it a bad thing?  As long you do not cheat the people and be a nice man and woman; you could be with a lot of nice handsome man or women.  Unity and Love(not sex and selfishness). 

wow

 نعم ،نعم،، وليکن مشاهده ميشود که اين نسوان عفيفۀ بالغه ،جميعأ خيلی بالاتر از نه سال دارند. انتخاب اين آقا مکروه است

Go con somebody else

Go con somebody else :-))

Mr. Fozolie

Persian cats?

All those girls are American and asian, not Iranian

Yes, but you used a specific label...

...which has specific connotations. You called him a con man, synonymous to con artist, who perform scams in attempts to obtain money by unlawful means. Where did he rip people off or scam them? With what sorts of pyramid schemes did he trick oblivious people? More to the point, what exactly did he "con" people out of? I'm just wondering whether you're trying to call him an opportunist, a thief, or something else entirely. Did he use his religion (or perceived station, as you referenced) to gain power? Where is the evidence of that transitory power, if so? Remember that, in his youth, Baha'u'llah could have been a vizier like his father if he was indeed after political power or clout, but this was a position he expressly rejected.

Using specifics will no doubt help this dialogue reach a point of understanding and brush away vagueness.

Fozolie

Do tell us how someone who was once regarded as the "father of the poor" in Mazandaran and was exiled for 40 years was a con man. I'd like specific examples.