Curious Joe

Organized religion is about $

On that note, I heard the funniest observation today about the nature of capitalism and democracy which reflects in a round about sort of way to this subject. Capitalism with democracy is like asking for virginity with prostitution :) 

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May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Yasna XXX 9

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What do you expect CJ? Without hypocrisy you can't have organized religion. Without organized religion you can't manipulate, gain & control.

Moral equivocation or twisted correlation as posed by some comments here is sign of a manipulator, guilty soul, or weak mind; And always two of three.

Just ask those who push to build a mosque in ground zero using the democratic argument, if they are cool with a pagan church across the street, GLBT bar to the immediate right of the mosque and a pork butchery on immediate left.

Oktaby

Fesenjoon

   I don't approve of either societies, not the islamist nor that of America's and many of the west's. What's so hard to understand?

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

curious joe

where do you draw the line for what is acceptable vs unacceptable behavior?  if everything is supposed to be tolerated, then aren't you advocating complete anarchy?

You nailed it, Niloufar

I invite folks to watch the Southpark episodes which make fun of Richard Dawkins.

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May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Yasna XXX 9

curious

despite the anger, the core message speaks to many of us. but this is not about religion alone. all concepts are man made. atheists too can be very religious and intolerant with their ideological beliefs. we all have our utopias or gods. some have even caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands in the name of democracy and/or christ and/or nation, but in actual worship of oil. others will slaughter children and rape whole villages of women for the sake of diamonds. it's a glass planet.

Have you considered...

That all religionists deep down are actually uncertain about the core of their beliefs which is why they have to externalize and impose their beliefs on everyone else.  It is not just the Jews, Christians, Muslims, Mormons and Scientologists either (whom you instance). The Bahaís here on IC, who everyone pulls the red carpet for, are as bad, if not worse, in their intolerance as everyone else you mentioned.

I am a believer but an eclectic one who follows his own Way. If the Divine is absolute and omnipresent, then it stands to reason that all beliefs about It are by definition flawed and as such all the religions and ideologies are a prison leading away and not to It. If the Muslims poured wine over their prayer mats, the Jews broke the mitzvot and the Christians realized their notion of Christ is a veil to Truth, then maybe they would continue not  to impose these untruths and flawed partialities on everyone else either.

That said, all these faiths (excepting Mormonism and Scientology, which are cults) have other dimensions to them besides the mainstream one.

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May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Yasna XXX 9

Dude when you realise

That they don't give a sh*t what you believe either,maybe you will see yourself in your own mirror.Then you can progress to understanding..

it's the opium of the masses, anyway.

You didnt need to write a whole blog about it. One sentence would have done the job. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

ever heard of Paul Dirac?

He's the greatest physicist since Isaac Newton that Britain has ever produced. And here's what he said about the blog's topic:

"If we are honest, we must admit that religion is a jumble of false assertions, with no basis in reality. The very idea of God is a product of the human imagination. If religion is still being taught, it is by no means because its ideas still convince us, but simply because some of us want to keep the lower classes quiet. Quiet people are much easier to govern than clamorous and dissatisfied ones. They are also much easier to exploit. Religion is a kind of opium that allows a nation to lull itself into wishful dreams and so forget the injustices that are being perpetrated against the people. Hence the close alliance between those two great political forces, the State and the Church. Both need the illusion that a kindly God rewards—in heaven if not on earth—all those who have not risen up against injustice, who have done their duty quietly and uncomplainingly."

here we go again...

Here comes ParthianShot with his anti-American babble again.

Dude, stop cheerleading for the akhonds.

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Is that true?

average women here is basically expected to act like a slut, without any dignity or shame

I agree, but but but but buttt....

 But know that whoring a women (like what you do in America and the west) is as bad as forcing them to wear a ninja suite. I live in the U.s, and I see that the average women here is basically expected to act like a slut, without any dignity or shame, and whenever she actually stands up for herself and refuses to do such things, you call her a femenist and try to shun her out of society. You American and western men are hypocrites too.

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

I'll bet Joe wishes he could

I'll bet Joe wishes he could waltz around in public with no clothes on wherever he goes, too.

But hey, that's hypocrisy for ya, right? lol 

Be quiet Onslow and take your filthy

fingers off my by Royal appointment keyboard.

Good Post Joe

As one who does believe in God - let me assure you, ......you are far closer to my god than any true believers of the ongoing religions.   If the God I know (the collective wisdom of the universe) ever approaches you - you will know it - but religious freaks are waaaay to involved with the BS being sold to them in the name of religion.  If they want to remain stupid that is fine with me too - but the minute they start IMPOSING we must ahow ZERO tolerance.