Defending Iranian Democracy

Mola when you're losing the argument

You lie.You've made up lies to justify the terrorist's.Over exaggerated to the point where it is just a lie and think that you have a point.You're in a bubble of denial.

Of course a liar would believe that the constitution and the ACLU will help them in supporting enemies of America.Good luck with that buddy.It's my right to burn your book,we've never stolen your 'gold' and having your 'women' raped is very rare.Really odd how you suddenly care about your women being raped when it is nearly the law to do so by the people you defend.

You're such a hypocrite Mola,how do you live with yourself? Consciousless?

کار هر خر نیست خرمن کوفتن

When all else fails

when you see you're losing the argument

you open  your handbook and go through it to find the solution and you get to Rule # 1:

"Demonize and convert them into a demon

Dehumanize and deprive them of their human qualities

to Win"

You've ended up chosing "Demonization, Dehumanization and name calling" over logic against your opponents.

Hece, Kare Har Khar Neest Kharman Kooftan. 

Thanks to ACLU who belives:

//www.aclu.org

and US Constitutiont for protecting us from Bullies like you

Don't cry

Don't waste your confused crying to me the price you terrorist's pay for attacking my country.

جنگ هفتادو دو ملت همه را عذر بنه

  چو ندیدند حقیقت ره افسانه زدند

So, according to you

your religion

christianity is better than Islam

hence

invading their land

burning their book 

taking their gold

raping their women

is OK because your God is better than their God 

?And you call them terrorist

Mola

Just admit it: You are anti-Christian aren't you?

Irrevelent Distractor

 What are YOU escaping from? The Reality of Islam? You never will as I pointed out to you when you go outside,open your eyes up.You are living proof of the difference.You're in a Christian world.And yes I believe Christianity is the best Religion in the World.It may shock you too,I am certainly glad for the Crusades Mola,Civilization would still be in the Dark Ages had Islam prevailed.
 I don't know what you could mean what am I escaping from? I have replied all your copy and paste from a site I have already read.Do you expect to go over the whole site with me? And when you say do I need more 'Proof's,just what is it you are trying to prove Mola? That Christians had some wars a thousand years ago? I've been trying to tell you that it is Irrevelent.
 You've accused me of calling Iranians terrorist's everyday.Why are you so paranoid Mola?
 You keep running away from my question to you,whats the difference in our civilization's? Need more time? Like forever to figure it out?
 

شماها مثل

شماها مثل اینکه حالیتون نیست

آقا جون، برای این مولا نصرالدین فقط یه چیز مهم هست و اون هم سر قدرت موندن بابا جون و عمو جون و پسر عمو جون و پسر دایی جون. ملتفت میشید یا نه؟

همین مولا همین فردا میتونه یک ضد اسلامی بشه که رو دست همهٔ شماها بزنه، مادامی که کمک کنه بابا جون و عمو جون سر قدرت بمونن.

این ملّا با زرنگی داره فقط وقتتون رو تلف میکنه. حالیتونه؟ دو زاریتون میفته یا نه؟ حالا هی‌ با این بچه آخوند بحث کنید.

(مولا جان، قربانت شوم ببخشید ها، یه هو به وجود بزرگوار شما بر نخوره ها. شما فقط یادت نره سلام مخصوص منو به عمو جون برسون. باشه؟)

What

are you Escaping from?

I understand you're a christian who believes christianity is the best religion in the world.

You obviously don't like it when I show you the blood dripping swords of the christians throughout the history up to this day. Christians have killed millions of other Christians just for belonging to a different branch of this religion.

Do you need more proofs and links or you had enough?

Iranians hating Iranians

  Don't hate the haters right?

  Don't speak of the Atrocities of Islam or the Inhumane conditions given to Iranians.

Or you will be a 'Iranian hating Iranians'..

Don't lower your Iranian pride to admiting -something has gone awry in Iran.

Or you will be a Iranian hating Iranian..

Islam in Iran : GOOD,GOOD GOOD!

Tell it your Islamic Terrorist buddies

  Last Week
 Jihad attacks:31
 Dead Bodies : 101
 Critically Injured: 115

 Last Month Feb 2011
 Jihad attacks:134
 Countries:20
 Religions:5
 DEAD BODIES: 565
 Critically injured: 1058

ISLAMIC Terrorists have carried out over 17007 terrorist attacks since 9-11
(Don't worry about it Mola,focus on the Christians 500 years ago)

2011.03.31 (Charsadda, Pakistan) - A Holy Warrior detonates in a crowd of people, sending at least twelve souls to Allah.
2011.03.30 (Mogadishu, Somalia) - Fundamentalists fire randomly at a soccer match, killing a journalist.
2011.03.30 (Jos, Nigeria) - Fulani raiders attack a college and murder two Christians.
2011.03.30 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Five family members are murdered in their own home by suspected al-Qaeda.
2011.03.30 (Swabi, Pakistan) - At least a dozen innocents are torn to shreds by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2011.03.29 (Tikrit, Iraq) - Islamic militants invade a government building and go room-to-room shooting and blasting unarmed employees, leaving over fifty dead.

ALWAYS MY SOURCE:

//www.thereligionofpeace.com

...

Don't be hating!

Mola the Lonely Camel

  Why does like the majority of everybody here hate you?

And

Let's see

What Torah, the holy book for Jews say:

God punishes children for the sins of their fathers, unto the third and fourth generations.  Punishing a child for the sins of their ancestors is not very just. Exodus 20:5&34:7

God endorses slavery. He even set up laws as to how slavery was to be carried out, and goes as far as Okaying beating them.  Exodus 21:2-6

God sanctioned the selling of ones daughter.  How can any being tell another to literally sell their child into slavery?  Disgusting!  Exodus 21:7

Exodus 22:18  God orders the death of witches, sorceresses and anyone who practices magic.  Sadly enough, this verse was justification for the Inquisition.

Exodus 32:27 God ordered to be killed, 3,000 Israelites for no greater crime than worshipping a golden calf.  I don’t know about you but death is a pretty harsh punishment.

Leviticus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents and death for adultery.  Gee, with these types of laws the population should be almost nil by now.

Once again god is a homophobe, or at the very least, a bigot.  Leviticus 20:13

Handicapped people must not approach the altar.  Leviticus 21:16-23

Leviticus 26:30 “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shill ye eat.”

Leviticus 27:28-29 God ordered and allowed human sacrifices.

Numbers 16:27 God buries alive Korah and his family.

Numbers 16:35 God killed 250 Levite princes who disagreed with Moses’ leadership. He was so bloodthirsty that he wanted to slay more until he was talked out of it.  Later he put a plague upon 14,700 Jews who thought there was something wrong in killing 250 princes.

Numbers 21:1-3 God utterly destroyed the Canaanites at Hormah as a favor to the Jews.

Numbers 21:27-35 God abetted Moses in utterly destroying the Amorites at Heshbon - “…the men, the women, and the little ones.”

Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people including children and women.  To top it off he commands that the virgins be saved for later raping by Moses’ soldiers.

Deuteronomy 3:3-7 God ordered Moses’ army to “utterly destroy” 60 cities, killing all the women and children within!

Deuteronomy 7:12 God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations.  He even adds, “show no mercy unto them”.

Deuteronomy 20:16 God orders that we kill everything that breathes in the cities that he gives us for an inheritance

A bastard can’t attend church “even to his tenth generation.” As if denying an innocent child rights to worship isn’t cruel. Deuteronomy 23:2

Mola

Do you have a job? Give up. Many Iranians here could not give a hoot about the Old Testament or the New Testament. But since you are on the topic try not to focus on what the Churxh of Christ did which was evil but the acts and behaviours of their prophets.

Jesus said turn the other cheek and love they neighbour as yourself.

Mohammed slept with a nine year old, beheaded an entite tribe because the Angel Gabrield told him to do so in a dream; raided caravsns ; beheaded or sold into slavery males of his enemies and married their women. Compare that with Jesus Christ. 

Try to find one fault with Jeses Christ and I will find you a dozen with that of the death cult, Mohammed.  

The

peace loving religion showing love towards other Christians:

Religious Wars

//articles.exchristian.net/2002/10/how-many-people-have-been-killed-by.php

Next time please quote your brainwash source thank you

  //www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1137511050

And I'm sure you know mine Mola,it's far more UP-TO-DATE

 //www.thereligionofpeace.com

Now again,the difference of your civilization and mine is what?

WHO were the 'enemies' the 'slain' the 'dead'?

  They were mad killing Islamists who were enforcing their dominance over those lands,killing ALL INFIDELS..

 Why is it their identity remains hidden in your quotes? Why isn't it obvious to you that we all know the 'Enemy's of the crusades? the so called 'Victims'?? Sure,you feel sorry for these head chopping murdering filth.

 You should think twice before continuing the aggravation of the crusades..But you don't.

And

The Crusades and Crusaders:

Crusades (1095-1291)

• Semlin/Hungary 6/24/1096 thousands slain. Wieselburg/Hungary 6/12/1096 thousands. [WW23]
• 9/9/1096-9/26/1096 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then Turkish), thousands respectively. [WW25-27]
• Until January 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered (number of slain unknown) [WW30]
• After 6/3/1098 Antiochia (then Turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000 slain. 6/28/1098 100,000 Turks (incl. women and children) killed.
  [WW32-35]
  Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's] tents - save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60]
• Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/1098 thousands killed. Because of the subsequent famine "the already stinking corpses of the enemies were eaten by the Christians" said chronicler Albert Aquensis. [WW36]
• Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (Jewish, Muslim, men, women, children). [WW37-40]
  In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude."
• The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished." [TG79]
• Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in all of Palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". [WW41]
• Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. Thousands of heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45]
• Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148]

Could I even ARGUE against Islam in the ME? NO!!!!!!!!

  Would this conversation even be possible in your land you consider to be of the same tolerance as Christian civilization?

 The answer is NO!

You will LOSE in a childish TIT-FOR-TAT debate

 In fact I would say Car Wrecks driven by Christian's accidently killing Muslims has been more a 'idealogical' than the faith.

 You've yet to quote the New Testament and given me copy and paste from a Muslim brainwash site of Anti-Christ scum.

And you know it of your brainwashing religion which you must think noone else can read.

 Now answer my question the difference in your SURROUNDINGS in a Christian world which you don't appreciate and frankly are nothing but a grotesque addition to our tolerance to YOU,and your Middle Eastern Islamic pile of Dung with no tolerance.

The

peaceful, loving Christians

throughout the history:

  Mola   Don't tell me

  Mola
  Don't tell me you think Muhammad thought of those ideas himself? In Islam is both good and evil,as was in the Old Testament.Truth is,Muhammad took a Tora and went into a Cave.Then he re-wrote it with a nest of Bats,came out and thousands of Muslim's flocked...
 It is exactly these verse's that Muhammad brought back after Jesus Christ had amended them.Which the Lord predicted a False Prophet as Muhamad would do.In a sense I think the Lord has a sense of humour because now here you are,doing exactly as he predicted.He must have had you in mind thousands of years ago :)You really are special..He also said Christians would become Martyr's which seems to be trending just now as well.This has been a very nice recent addiction to the world's Religious evolution..
 But you, Not only believing the Jews still practice these quotes (without proof except the quotes themselves) lump Jewish belief in with Christian because you know not what you speak.Then you have to nerve to advocate Islam which actually does practice these verses,with plenty of proof you will always lose this argument due to reality of the Islamic world..Now this is where your anger derives.That before by comparing Islam to the Torah may in someway justify Islam.No,Nothing has compared to Islam since the Mountain of Skulls.Sorry there was no Jizzwa to pay,so you received a Mass Genocide onto the blame of your Religion.
   Unlike in Islam,Looking at the context you admit you have taken these quote from makes all these difference as well.These quote's that are taken (1)from a time of revenge when the Jews had escaped slavery and were returning to those who occupied their land,and (2)of a time when stupid human beings were worshipping pieces of rock's and other ridiculous idols like sun gods.(another idea taken to the Hilt by Muhammad).
 
 Additionally a point that can only be missed by those who don't want to know the truth,is the only quotes presented in the Old Testament as the original words of Gods are of the Ten Commandments.

 You've come to the conclusion that Moses and the Jews being told of taking of Midian women to be -raping.No I conclude unlike your,that that verse meant- Don't kill them,take them and raise them as your own.I don't believe Rape is in anyway even exaggerable in the Old Testament.I need far more evidence than that,I have never gotten that impression.
 But Like a Camel who constantly see's Mirage,you see what you want to see.Naturally...
 Anyways the most final proof of the Hypocrisy and vulgar ingratitude is running to a society that has evolved from the Christian belief,yes the very belief I read here being ridiculed over and over,whilst reaping it's reward.The Belief which is so bad you choose to go live in the society that is a direct product of Christianity.
 GOD FORBID that you  understand your surroundings,where it's origin's are (except for the negative you see so brightly)
  It's hard for me to believe you are a Iranian or have even visited the Middle East,Because these differences are so apparent in everything.

 From what you can eat,
 what you can wear,
 who you can marry,
 who you can kiss,
 how your hairstyle is.Just off the top of my head.(pun intended)

Finally for those that do not believe there is a differenhce,Has it EVER occured to you how our civilization's evolved to be so different?I presented this question in a blog before which was unanswered.

When you can answer this,I will trust you all know not only where you came from,but where you are AT.Until then,there is no evidence.

 Your surrounding does not change because of what is inside your head.It overwhelms me that people have the 'audacity' to make these claims of similiarities in Christianity and Islam.If I were to accompany them on one of their trips in the outside world,such as walking downthe street,talking to a person,talking a LOOK around etc. I could make the point minute after minute of the obvious obliviation you live.

Soosan you (and your teachers) are revising history

Thank you Iranfirst. Here are some more links for our good revisionists: 

1. Sahih Bukhari was a moslem scholar from the 9th century. He is one of the most well known and respected moslem scholars among moslems. Here are extracts about Aisha from his most famous book:

5:58:234   5:58:236  7:62:64   7:62:65,  7:62:88

2. طبری   Yes OUR own Tabari! The Persian moslem scholar and historian of the 9th century. Sorry no links, but go buy his book. They sell his book even on Amazon. I have included the Volume and the page numbers where he refers to Aisha being nine years old when married to Mohamad:

Taarikhe Tabari, Volume 9, Page 131

Taarikhe Tabari, Volume 7, Page 7 

3. Khomeini frequently used Tabari's work in his own books. Here is one example in which Khomeini references Tabari with high regards:

//www.irib.ir/worldservice/imam/speech/21.htm

4. Ayatollah Montazeri (yes, our own Montazeri!) defending and justifying Mohamad marrying a nine years old girl:

//old-islam.blogspot.com/2005/04/6.html

No amount of revisionsim can change and alter the true facts.

And

The bible say:

Death for Adultery

    If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

    A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions

    Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.  (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers

    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Thanks

  Guys (and girls) I had to work on that comment for awhile

...

Tommy Boy, you're a bit more up in your Sunday School than I thought. But as that song goes : the fundementals remian the same, they used to love Goats, now they love young boys. And I'm not just talking about the Catholic Church, but also all those Rabbis and mollahs that adore young boys.

Our own Mola here, me thinks, is a Camel lover!

So, not much has changed; organized religions are as corrupt and meaningless as ever: goats have been replaced by young boys, and I still can't go to sleep having a virtual conversation from Tornto with a retired Fireman from NY, what's wrong with this picture?

Escape: I think this is the

Escape: I think this is the first time you have written something informative and educational. Yes, many muslims don't understand Christianity or Christians and they don't even bother because they are told, theirs is the best religion because Mohammad said so.

Thank you Escape for Clarifications and History

Thank you for Clarifications and History, very informative.

Muslims are just grasping for anything in ANY religion at ANY time (Whether practiced or not as such), to excuse barbaric actions of Mo and criminal laws in Islam as ordered in Quran (that are not changeable by time). Muslims enforce barbarism that does not exist and is not practiced in any other major religion TODAY. Muslims don't see the criminal actions of Mo (in attacking and killing the innocent, raping the slaves, forced conversions, child-molestation, breaking threaties,...), and actually use them as good examples, to be followed!

Stop Quoting Old Testament assuming it's the belief of Christian

  Stop quoting Old Testament verse's assuming it is the belief of Christians.You Misunderstand and every Christian know's it is so.Jesus Christ amended those verses you like to bring up,apparently you don't understand why a Christian is called a Christ-ian...Christians went against those verse's you like to speak and were the enemies of Jews for doing so,as breaking Moses' Law.

Actually The Exact point of difference came after the Death of Christ,Christians had to discuss their teaching agenda.The book of Act's is where the evolution of 'Tolerance' was forged...

Acts 10:34-35
Religious tolerance in Christianity

(34) Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism (35) but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

This is why Christian's can eat Pork without sinning (For Christ's sake)

Acts 11:9
“The voice spoke from heaven a second time, ‘Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.’

//youtu.be/NlPpMvEZzzg

The Early Christians were Jew's still stuck in Jewish tradition's that were hard to break from even after Christ.The Law of Moses required Circumcision which separated those Noncircumcised.A important meeting took place which shaped our world,to discuss accepting those Gentiles.

Acts 8       God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

Mash Ghasem Islam is the only remaining Barbaric religion

All other major religions have adapted to civility. Its only Islam that in 21st century insists on stoning, beheading, cutting limbs and lashing and putting women in bags by force.....

Muslims still want to do what terrorist Mo did (Jihad), which is mostly criminal and against other people's Human Rights. They are NOT allowed to reason and change this barbaric cult