Hooray for Freedom Before and After Expression!

OK Ramin...I mean Ramon

Hamvatan, release some of your anger either at the gym or read a good book and chill !!!! Ramin? Come on.......That'so Daahaati and old school. Ramon sounds good, doesn't. I mean come on you could say you're from Madrid, Spain.

Demented Despot

A grim-faced Ahmadinejad sweated out intense grilling from university President Lee Bollinger and hordes of others in the audience who demanded answers from him on his dangerous rants.

"You exhibit all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator," Bollinger said to cheers from the 800-plus people packed into the auditorium. "I feel all the weight of the modern civilized world yearning to express the revulsion at what you stand for."

The educator accused Ahmadinejad of having a "fanatical mindset" and lacking the "intellectual courage" to answer the questions before him.

The pint-sized Persian president responded by whining that he was "insulted" during his hourlong appearance at the Ivy League institution, which has weathered a firestorm of protest over giving the Axis of Evil leader a platform to propagandize.

After Bollinger's accurate characterization of this monkey, all Ahmadinejad could do was invoke a passage from the Koran and steal a line from Rodney Dangerfield.

Ahmadinejad's incoherent rambling and confusing remarks that attempted to weave together biblical Adam's conversation with an angel, modern man's pursuit of science, the development of nuclear weapons, the Holocaust and the Palestinian refugee problem reveals a mentally and pyshologically disturbed and diseased mind who keeps repeating the same old tirade over and over again like a broken record.

It also shows that the man is detached from realties of the world and how he is viewed in the Western world. He is cluless as how they compare him to as little Hitler and how the Political Islam (aka islamofascism) he promotes and stands for for are despised and there is a global movement being formed against it.

All and all, it is a tragedy for Iran and Iranians to have this ignorant puppet as their representative. It is indeed a sad day in our history.

making a mountain out of a mole hill

Its fascinating, I check the news paper and this all the talk about. I am the last to say something good about Ahmadinejad but he said we do not have gays "LIKE" you, as in publicly professing to their gay/lesbian ness. So the number definitely appears to be smaller, any way the person asking the question could have asked a follow up.

Ramin, his 1 minute ordeal is key!

Ramin kahn. That 1 minute ordeal and the statement your Mr. Ahmadinejad made about gays in Iran, is indeed indicative of the dept of his denial and the fact that him and his Mullah masters live in the La La land of denial and deception (about eveything else he said as well). Okay, so he said some true things about the Palestinians as well (khob Palestine be ma cheh?) but since he is fundamentaly illegitimate, what is closer to the bottom line and reflects the true nature of Islamic Republic and this man is the sentence about the gays not existing in Iran. THERE ARE NO GAYS IN IRAN (how dumb can one person be?) And this man considers himself an academic?! (which is a total lie and I will get into that another time) I think you are the one who is missing the point here.

he really believes that,like so many iranians in iran

LIKE SO MANY IRANIANS WHO HAVE NEVER DISCUSSED HOMOSEXUALITY OPENLY IN IRAN ,I REALLY BELIEVED HIM WHEN HE SAID WE DONT HAVE THEM IN IRAN.HOMOSEXUALS NEVER GET ANY COVERAGE OF ANY FORM IN IRAN ,THEREFORE U CAN GROW UP IN IRAN TODAY AND THINK WOW THIS IS A WESTERN CULTURAL ISSUE, IM SAYING THIS BECASUE I LIVE IN IRAN AND THIS TOPIC IS SO ALIAN TO PEOPLE ,EVEN SUSPECTING PARENTS NEVER WANT TO DISCUSS THIS ,THERE IS SUCH STIGMA ATTACHED TO THE LABLE OF HOMOSEXUALITY .THIS IS IN NO WAY CONDONING AHMADINEJADS VIEWS BUT RATHER A GLIMPS INTO THE SOCIETY ..OH BY THE WAY I DIDNT KNOW ISRAEL HAS BECOME A PART OF THE UNITED STATES ,MUST BE NICE TO HAVE ONE OF YOURE STATES ALL THE WAY IN THE MIDDLEEAST ,

From a 2hour+ debate/speech,

From a 2hour+ debate/speech, all you could get was the minute ordeal about how there are no gays in IRAN???

Jesus Christ, you dumb as Iranians are even worse than those trigger happy Americans, but oh well since you are living amongst them and calling yourselves Italian, and telling others that your name is Bob and not Babak, well what should one think of you traitors!

Nazanin  You think the

Nazanin

 You think the IRI needs help for embarassment? Claiming we don't have gays in Iran speaks for itself.

Besmellah-e rahman e

Besmellah-e rahman e rahim,

When the prophet Mohammad was fuc*ing 9 year old girls, he was actually thinking about a hairy arab ass, his cousin. Not only he was an inbred, but a homosexual inbred. That is why all the mullahs every where, but particularly in that hot bed of intellectualism QOM have lots of 12, 13 year old boys doing simple "chores" for them. khomeini was obsessed with deviant sexual behavior.
I did not see anyone insulting the prophet, calling him a pedophile and homosexual is the truth.

what homsexuals?

what homsexuals?

IRAN, IRAN They will always be after YOU!!

kimia yar

 Looking from a distance, I feel Iran is like an orphaned child.  No mother to protect her, No father to defend her. Iran is struggling to prove to the world that it exists and it is quite capable. 

Iran will always be the topic of the day.  (een dastan edameh darad!!)

Kimia-Berkeley

Ahmadinejad Is Right

There are no homosexuals in Iran -- they are all currently on a speaking tour in the US that includes Columbia University and the UN.

Even if that happened...

...you know he'd just claim they are all CIA agents there to embarrass the IR...

Why Perpetuate Hate?

The root of hate speech towards homosexuals is due to a lack of education and a lack of tolerance. Religious zealots from all religions promote homophobia, however insulting the Islamic prophet is not helping anyone, its just the same hate speech now directed towards something else. Plenty of Gay Moslems out there living with their faith, as are Gay Jewish people, and Gay Christians.
Educate and teach tolerance, don't perpetuate more hate and violence.

Breathtaking Maltreatment of Ahmadinejad in NYC 091707

Dear Iranian.com:

I have no idea how to contact the President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Could you help? Below is the letter I would like to write him. In short, it ends up being an invitation for him or some representative(s) of the Iranian government to speak at Berkeley City College, Berkeley, CA. Mr. Ahmadinejad would receive a much warmer reception in this part of the country and I can almost guarantee that though many students here disagree with the status quo in Iran at the moment and probably with some views of Mr. Ahmadinejad on certain topics that he would be treated with far greater respect due him that he was not afforded on his visit to New York City today, September 17, 2007 much to my embarrassment as a United States citizen.

Dear Mr. Ahmadinejad:

I would like to express my regret and sorrow at the barbaric way that you were treated by the Press Club International in New York City today, September 17, 2007. Was the questioner a CIA representative or what? Your treatment by the president of Columbia University was even worse. I was horrified by your experience and am very embarrassed to say the least. These same querrants, I can guarantee you are not even beginning to try to ask difficult questions especially in such a disrespectful way of those far more culpable for world geopolitical destabilization, such as the leadership of the United States or of Israel itself at the moment. These querrants were maybe scapegoating their frustration at perhaps being afraid to ask their own governments such tough questions. You were, I believe, correct to infer that the questioners’ mindsets and lines of questioning might have arisen more from conditioning and less from critical consciousness based in logic—my words.

I am a resident of the State of California and am a gay man myself. Of course as a gentlemen with a plenitude of self respect, this means that I absolutely disagree with the barbaric capital laws in Iran specific to gay men, of which you have no less or more concentration in actual population than in any other country. Whether or not you say or believe that there are gay men, lesbians, etc. in Iran, is completely immaterial. We are everywhere whether or not you like it. However, It would never enter my mind to treat you the way you were treated today in New York City, even with your diametrically opposing viewpoint on human rights or any other issues. Your treatment there was unacceptable and I think most truly educated people’s values of treatment of invited guest speakers were crossed if not trammeled altogether today. You deserve better because civilized people simply don’t treat people as you were treated. Iran itself, you were correct to mention in not so many words, is an educated nation of refined people with diverse and respectable values and are good people who wish to live in peace. I believe this. I have friends who have lived in Iran, as U.S. citizens and I know people in my past who have traveled there. All U.S. citizen visitors I know who’ve been to Iran have been delighted to travel there. I have one acquaintance who was a single women who actually rented land in northern Iran over a year or two some years ago. She lived alone and was always treated with dignity and respect. I have Iranian acquaintances here in the U.S. and am always impressed by their refinement and high degree of education, genuine warmth and civility in all respects. Of course, I would never expect anyone or everyone from any nation to live up to any such ideal of deportment, but I’ve never met an Iranian that has contradicted this positive impression of Iranians in general to date.

I suggest in future visits to unfriendly American United States audiences that you could use specifics of United States current domestic policy barbarism in retort during debate. I am not sure if you did mention the following as I only heard about three fourths of the Press Club talk you gave this morning (Pacific Time). However, you really could have mentioned the United States incarceration rates of huge and growing numbers of its own citizens. It is the highest proportion of citizens of any nation on the planet (official or unofficial numbers) in jail or prison at greater than 2% and growing rapidly as the United States heads, probably, toward martial law after yet another false flag operation on United States soil, again orchestrated, not by Muslim anyone, but by this nation’s own greedy, megalomaniac and paranoid power elite. Also, in the United States, an additional 5% of the entire population is somehow otherwise non-voluntarily involved with the corrections system here but not incarcerated. That’s a total of 7% and growing of the US total population (not just adult) that is somehow in trouble with the government. I think, please correct me if I’m wrong, the incarceration rate in Iran is under 0.1%, right? I know for a fact that the United States imprisons one of four people on the planet incarcerated at any given time. I wonder, again, where are the hard questions for the power elite of the United States and Israel? In fact, unfortunate for United States citizens, the old USSR never imprisoned officially or unofficially (in reality) any more than the United States currently imprisons.

I’m not saying that I agree with your form of government in Iran. I’m, again, only saying that you are a very intelligent, educated man who is extremely well spoken and I really wanted to hear what you had to say. I was offended by your treatment. I hope that you can someday forgive us as a nation and come to the West Coast of the United States and speak at an institution here where you will receive the utmost respect that you deserve because if we are civilized that would mean our values should be about giving you respect—just because that’s the right thing to do.

I’m not unaware that you are a former head of the Iranian secret police. I understand that you understand what was going on today in New York. Questions and obligations of questioners were to benefit the state status quo. Had actually educated people without a status quo supporting or fascist political agenda been allowed to interview you, you would have, of course, have received the utmost in respect as a statesmen and as an educated man who I’ve never seen act out yourself in any impolite or inappropriate way in any press event anywhere. Our own government is far more inappropriate in most circumstances and if the United States weren’t the worldwide military arm for first world capitalism, our representatives’ behavior in public discourse would certainly be more punitively scrutinized and criticized and in that case, appropriately.

I want to say that the most important thing I received from your message today was that you are very sincere about wanting to avoid a United States or western world invasion of Iran. I don’t know if you mentioned the fact that current United States military activities in Iraq using so-called depleted uranium weapons and other military toxic substances in use in Iraq by the United States et al are likely already permanently contaminating Iranian water and other environmental/natural resources. I don’t know why you haven’t brought that up in the international community. Maybe you have and I haven’t learned this yet from the United States media. Such a bone of contention would be valid. I understand that diplomacy and titular or hierarchical leadership is a very complex activity and I do not presuppose to understand why or why you did not mention this or that point in your own or in Iran’s defense. I think you would find that there are many, unfortunately not a majority due to the hegemony of brainwashing here from our CIA controlled corporate media, of Americans of the United States who agree that the United States and Israel are the terrorists now in the Middle East and specifically most egregiously in Iraq. I believe you understand that plans are well underway and nearly complete for an all out air offensive against Iran with possible plans for eventual occupation of Iran cum Iraq. I know that this would be much more difficult in Iran; but the pain such an attempt by the United States would cause people in Iran and all over the world is something that you are courageously and skillfully, despite nearly impossible odds, working very hard and sincerely to avoid. Despite the near blackout level of censorship by the United States CIA controlled corporate media, there are still many who are aware that Israel is an apartheid state and regional state terrorist and that Israel wishes to continue enjoyment of it’s basically military based economy thanks to United States unrestricted military “aid”. Israel and its Mossad (created, of course, by the CIA) is also involved because of a wish to have greater access to water resources that do not belong to it. This would be status quo as Israel already gets 75% of its water from land it illegally occupies in the Palestinian West Bank. You have my respect in these matters. I don’t agree with the offensive glib hypocrisy of the party lines in the United States regarding Israel.

Our Press Club, Ivy League and A-List University leaderships would do far better for the world to as vigorously inquire of the United States leadership hierarchy, and hopefully with far less disrespect in presentation of such queries, about its role in world geopolitical destabilization. We hear no such disrespect afforded the grossest mass murdering genocidal parasitical terrorists of the U.S. powers that be. I don’t recall Iran practicing empire building for the past 100 or more years with 10’s of millions being murdered to expand capitalist markets. I enjoyed your understated retort hinting at the United States installation by the CIA of the “Shah” in 1953. The lack of logic in the questions you were treated to today is breathtaking in scope. Again, I offer my apologies for your maltreatment.

I also make a sincere request for you to appear at an educational institution that I can almost guarantee would receive you with appropriate respect and enthusiasm unlike your most unfortunate experience of this morning, September 17, 2007. You seem very approachable and I believe due to your being a very well educated and a gifted orator you would make the most fascinating speaker. I don’t sincerely believe that anyone of your stature would ever come to speak at our humble community college here in Berkeley, California; but I would be honored to help arrange such a visit should you ever be in the region. The good students and excellent instructors at this institution that I attend as a student are a collective body of the utmost diversity economically, culturally and racially. We have students from Iran here. We have had speakers from Afghanistan and have also had scientific and academic groups using science and engineering to question the official U.S. versions of 911 who’ve spoken at nearby institutions—such as, UC Berkeley. I believe you could avoid rhetorical attack from the leadership of our institution (a weak attempt at humor on my part).

In any case, I wish you the very highest and best in your stated, and I believe you’re very sincere goal of preventing further imperialist expansion into Iran and into other nations of the Middle East and Asia. Thank you for setting such a high standard and example of civilized behavior in your skilled, calm and courageous response to inappropriate behavior of questioners and illogical lines of questioning this morning.

Very sincerely yours,

Frank Willis Snapp III
Oakland, CA

All pictures of gays hanged in public in Iran are out

All pictures of gays hanged in public in Iran are out.

Public debate about MA in US and entire world is also great for Iranians in Iran. Many issues such as women, gays, dictatorship,freedom of speech and more can stop backwardness and replace it with global democratic values in Iran and hopefully in entire ME region.

It is all for the best. The best thing could happen to Iran is happening.

Long Live Iran

Mohammad himself was a homo

What I call "Momo the Homo" was a homosexual and a figher and not a Prophet or saint. Throughout the millenia stories are abound that the Mullahs have been abusing young boys and "lavating" with men, so what else is new. This doctrine called Islam was founded on homosexuality and must be abolished from the face of the earth.

You know that won't happen......

You know that won't happen while he is in New York. Instead, there will be a parade with Ahmadinejad sitting on Khameni's lap where they announce that they have been a couple for the past 3 years. Then they'll apply for asylum in the U.S. and move to Massachusetts so they can legally marry. They will adopt a couple of Cambodian kids, become best friends with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, and Madonna will convert them to Kabbalah.