FG

Irena

I completely disagree so I agree to disagree.

Reality check, Frashogar, is

..... that Russia is utterly corrupted, from A to Z. That applies to their media as well.

But let's agree to disagree.

PS. Rea, short cut for Irena, is how they call me. 

Rea

People from "your country" speaking about Russia, RT, Putin or democracy and hiding under aliases really need their own reality checks. RT is a private owned news corporation and as far as I am concerned has more credibility than the entire Western corporate media combined.

Frashogar

First, Syria is much more complex than a X-ian nun.

Second, RT is about Putin's spokesmen. They don't report, they simply write what Bachuska tells them to.

Third, personally, am sorry to see Syria falling apart. Saw my own country going thru the same thing. Devastating.

Assad shoud've negotiated at the very beginning. Too late now, too much hatred, there's no return. 

Christian nun on the situation in Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyKo0wWns0Y&feature=player_embedded

Here is your answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsEkzai2Yuw&feature=relmfu

Frashogar

Referring to Syrians, mainly. 

As for myself, I also think he should go. If not for other reason, then for the fact that by his refusal to negotiate at the beginning of the uprising he caused chaos and bloodshed in the country as well as dangerous radicalization of what had initially been peaceful and legitimate demonstrations.

 طبق گزارش

 طبق گزارش وال استریت ژورنال از قول یکی از کارمندان تور مسافرتی، همه کسانی که در این کاروان سفر میکردند یا عضو سپاه بودند و یا بسیج.

دلیل این سفر در اوج یکی از خشونت بارترین دوره های وقایع سوریه روشن نیست. ولی افراد آشنا به این سفر گفتند نظر باینکه مخالفان مسلح درگیر نبرد قاطعی با ارتش در حلب هستند این عده از اعضای فعال سپاه و بسیج ، ماموریت آموزش نیروهای سوریه در زمینه روشهای مقابله و سرکوب شورش را داشتند.

این مساله قوی ترین استدلال را برای دخالت تهران در جنبش ۱۷ ماهه سوریه ارایه میکند و میتواند هر چه بیشتر جمهوری اسلامی را در منطقه منزوی کند و خشم همسایگان عرب ایران را علیه حمایت تهران از بشار اسد برانگیزد.

آژانس مسافرتی ثامن الانُمه تنها در خدمت اعضا سپاه و بسیج و خانواده های آنها است و بر روی مردم عادی ایران باز نیست. این شرکت همچنین از شرکتهای فرعی گروه صنعتی ثامن الانُمه بزرگترین گروه متعلق به سپاه است که تحت تحریم قطعنامه شورای امنیت سازمان ملل و تحریمهای وزارت خارجه آمریکا، به دلیل نقش و ارتباط آن در برنامه های تولید موشک و اتمی جمهوری اسلامی است.

فعالیت و منافع گروه ثامن در دامنه وسیعی از تکنولوژی، دفاعی و امور بانکی، تا بیمارستان و انتشارات و تور مسافرتی، گسترده است.

یک عضو سپاه در داخل ایران گفت دولت تهران کمکهای تکنیکی و آموزشی در سوریه را در هفته های اخیر افزایش داده است و افزود اعضای سپاه برای آموزش دادن و آشنا کردن نیروهای سوریه با جنگهای چریکی به روش جنگهای سپاه با کردها و گروههای جدایی طلب مرزی بلوچ به سوریه سفر میکنند.
این منبع گفت نبرد حلب بعنوان مثال یک نمونه کلاسیک از این تاکتیکهای سپاه است که ارتش به جنگجویان اجازه پیشرفت به مناطق اطراف را میدهد و آنگاه از زمین و هوا به آنها حمله میکند.

//ir.voanews.com/content/iran-syria-hostages/1476581.html

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

Iran defends Assad

‎

Tehran will today host a summit of Iran-friendly foreign ministers in an attempt to wrest the international focus away from calls for Bashar al-Assad to step down. 

Western diplomats have dismissed the conference as an attempt to divert attention away from bloody events on the ground and to preserve the rule of Assad’s brutal regime. 

Syrian rebel commanders say they have lost control of the strategic Salah al-Din district in the northern city of Aleppo after a government offensive. 

Such wonderful, humane, forthright, freedom fighters & champions

of human rights are the Saudi/Qatari sponsored Wahhabi al-Qaeda terrorist FSA opponents of the Assad regime! With freedom fighters such as these one is assured that Washington, London, Riyadh and Doha are truly the purveyors of "democracy," "rights" and "liberty" the world over: //syria360.wordpress.com/2012/08/07/fsa-death-squads-execute-and-hang-a-shiite-child-in-damascus/

NOT

Rozbeh, of course Assad will go.... duh !!

the question is at whose expense?  and  of course Iran is next !!  But, Iran is not going to see a day of freedom ... it never had in the past and it never will !! 

You can continue enjoying reading these breaking news !  

I am out of this blog !! 

FG

Thanks for the updates. Really appreciate your input ... 

 اینها عرضه

 اینها عرضه ندارند مشکل مرغ را توی مملکت حل کنند بعد رفته‌اند از سوریه تا از سقوط یک جنایتکار دیگری مثل خودشان جلوگیری کنند. بدبخت‌ها نمیدانند که با این کار خودشان را درگیر همه کشورهای منطقه کرده‌اند. همه سازمانهای اطلاعاتی غرب در سوریه فعالند و تمام تحرکات مزدوران خامنه‌ای را ردیابی میکنند و اطلاعات عملیاتی را دراختیار ارتش آزاد سوریه قرار میدهند. این ازگل‌ها حتی عرضه جنگهای نامنظم را هم ندارند. مثل گله گوسفند با اتوبوس رفته‌اند آنجا و زرتی افتاده‌اند توی دام دشمن!
بهرحال این بلند پروازی حکومت اسلامی دارد کار دستش میدهد. بقول یک سیاستمدار معروفی: بحران سوریه درواقع باتلاقی است که جمهوری اسلامی تا خرخره در آن غرق خواهد شد.

//mollah.blogspot.com/2012/08/blog-post_7.html#comment-form

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

Guys, Gals, Relax! be peacefull towards FG!

Sink deeper into that chair, take a deep breath, have a cold drink, and consider yourself as lucky for not being a "retired bassiji on a pilgrimage"!!!!!

Asad will go. Just as sure as Khamenei and his  filthy, corrupt islamist republic will, regardless of what FG, you, or I write here.

"Rather than go around the

"Rather than go around the world looking for new Hitlers to destroy, perhaps we should remember the words of Sinclair Lewis: "When Fascism next rears its ugly head, it will come in the form of anti-fascism."

And if you are interested in History

please check out "Afghanistan 101" ...  it is easy to pass ... an easy A ... good for your GPA ..

LOL  

Well ... so far the right-wing propaganda in the U.S

under the BiBi's watch ( which you so happily are spreading)is more qualified for your Hitler's propaganda comparison than my 2+2 logic. After all they are fighting Russians !! lol

Furthermore, don't you think that the hitler card has been sooooooo much overplayed?  Time to come up with something new!

Soosan: I never said "you remind me of Hitler."

What I did say is: "You remind me of Hitler's propagandists who claimed the Allies should back them because they were "defending the world from the Bolshevik threat."  (quoted exactly!).

I stand by that land will demonstrate right here how closely the Nazi propaganda argument resembles the one you have set forth. 

THE NAZI PROPAGANDA LINE AS PROVEN FACT: A HISTORY LESSON  

It was a position Goebbels trumpeted prior to and during World War II as historians can attest.  Even as the Russian army surrounded Berlin in April of 1945 the Nazis insisted that the West should change sides and save them as "a bulwark against the Bolsheviks."

Inside his bunker Hitler shouted at his generals and insisted the all was not lost because the West would see--at the last minute--that it needed Nazi Germany.  He even believed that the Soviet and western armies would clash when they met.  

A major advocate of this position was Heinrich Himmler who even sent a "peace mission" with such an offer to the West.  The offer was totally ignored, of couse.   By this time, news of the amazing extent of Nazi crimes, had become available to western leaders as troops advanced.

HOW IS YOUR POSITION NOT SIMILAR? 

You argue that the West (and apparently Iranians as well I assume) should stand by Assad--regardless of his crimes--because he is protecting us all from the Islamist threat.   Do I state your thesis correctly?  I have no intention to cheat here via "straw man argument."

IF YOU OPPOSE KHAMENEI HOW WOULD YOUR POSITION MAKE SENSE?

I'm sure virtually every Iranian on this site would agree to the following:

--that Assad's downfall would be a massive blow to the IRI and to its Hezbollah ally in Lebanon whose members are believe to have aided Khamenei's head-cracking of Iranian protestors in 2009.  

--that Khamenei has done everything he can help Assad stay aflot for the above reason.

--that the ruling mullahs are currently in a panic about Assad's plight.  

--that many Iranians would cheer Assad's fall even as the ruling mullahs would mourn it.  

--that Assad's downfall could inspire and embolden a similar uprising in Iran (which raises the question: "Why not slander Iranian protestors as "terrorists" and "thugs" as you have slandered Syrian protestors?"

--that if Assad did survive, he and Hezbollah would likely return a favor by providing Khamenei with covert assistance should Iranias rise up.

--that Assad himself has made use of the radical Islamists you condemn as foriegn policy proxies as in Iraq a few years ago.  (That raises questions about his present complaints, does it not?)

CAN'T YOU SEE THAT THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC IS BASICALLY A LIGHTER, RIVAL AND SHIA VERSION OF AL QUEDA? 

If you don't like radical Islamists consider that the IRI is a lighter, rival Shia version of Al Queda complete with social police and an expansionist foreign policy that makes use of violence and terrorism to achieve its goals.  Hence the covert schemes against neighors.  Hence the dreams of heading a muslim caliphate.  Where Al Queda's version would have its capital in Baghdad, Khamenei's would be in Tehran. 

The  IRI's use of external Shia minorities (Lebanon's Hezbollah, Iraqi militias, Alawites in Syria) as regime proxies copies another Nazi policy: the way Hitler appealed to German minoritires scattered throughout much of Eastern Europe.  The Nazi-flag waving movements destabilized neighbors internally.

Update from Aleppo -- Tails between hind legs

BBC News:

The Free Syrian Army (FSA) has confirmed it has retreated from Salah al-Din, a densely packed area of narrow streets on the south-west side of Aleppo, where rebel fighters had been heavily dug in.

"We have staged a tactical withdrawal from Salah al-Din," rebel commander Hossam Abu Mohammed of the Dara al-Shahbaa Brigade in Aleppo told the AFP news agency by phone.

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Tactical withdrawal = Tails between hind legs 

What I don't understand is why people condeming the "Arabic regime" in Iran have all of a sudden become so staunch supporters of these Al-Qaeda-run, Saudi financed Islamists? 

Rea

Are the lots of people you refer to Syrians or they those largely non-Syrians associated with the Qatari and Saudi regimes or even certain seminars which teach, among other things, to small groups of Syrians and non-Syrians the works of Gene Sharp from places like Serbia?

Also Rea, Talking about IRI is irrelevant here

Read some of the links that Vildemose has provided.   I do not think so what that is happening in Syria is anything short of what that happened in Afghanistan in 70s...  Ben Laden was a CIA agent back then... Remember?? 

Rea , FG is not reading my comments and concerns

 and in return he tells me that I am reminding him of Hitler....   but, then, It is my comment that gets deleted.   Double standard !! Is it not ??? 

Now , exactly what is it that he is telling us?  

Besides, what is it that he is telling us that Fox news has not told us already? Of course, I do not expect more of him or many bloggers here and I am not surprised at all ... 

Perhaps,  I should not give a damn either !! 

Lots of people

.... would like to see Assad go down and pay for what he's done to his people.

And he'll go down eventually, no doubt about it. No Russia or IRI can save him, it's too late. Neither they care, imho. They're already looking for new alliances. 

The mil $ question is the post-Assad Syria.  That is, if there is going to be Syria as we know it

@Soosan, greets.  FG is not spreading B/S, he's just reporting what's all over the place.

To Soosan re: Al Queda

You remind me of Hitler's propagandists who claimed the Allies should back them because they were "defending the world from the Bolshevik threat."  Your propaganda line is identical. 

Yes some Islamist radicals are indeed in Syria NOW but they were not until relatively recently.  They still constitute a relatively small portion of the opposition though more will tend to arrive the longer Assad hangs on.  So let's put the blame for that where it belongs.  

They wouldn't be present at  all had Assad, Putin and Khamenei decided to slaughter the populace from a distance and trash whole neighbothoods.  Whose decision was that?  

Originally ALL the opposition fighters were defectors from the army or civilians disgusted by Assad's tactics of sniping at peaceful demonstators.  Yet even then you and your our favorite dictators portrayed the resistance as "bandits" and "radical Islamists" which was not the case.  Did it occur to you that many Syrians. like many Iranians, may not like dictatorship and don't need Al Queda to motivate rebellion?

Had Putin pulled the rug under Assad, he'd have fallen before this undesireable help arrived.  

If the West had helped the rebels the latter wouldn't need to look elsewhere AS A MATTER OF SURVIVAL.

With Assad determined to kill everyone who wanted real democracy (a demand that has zero to do with radical Islam), the FSA put it correctly: "We're FORCED to take help where we can get it even though we know we are importing a problem we'll have to confront afterward."   

I'd say the best move afterward would be to encourage the radicals to move on to Lebanon, Iran, Russia or other regimes (Iraq) friendly to the IRI,  Sweet boomerang justice, right?   The Syrian people owe these guys a dose of their own medicine, right?

WOW ... Priceless !! LOL

" Al-Qaeda fighters, however, may help improve morale. The influx of jihadis brings discipline, religious fervor, battle experience from Iraq, funding from Sunni sympathizers in the Gulf, and most importantly, deadly results. In short, the FSA needs al-Qaeda now "

Thanks dear Vildemose for the link. 

  Council on Foreign

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

From: Juan cole

 Army for the military operations in their city, rather than blaming Damascus for responding heavy-handedly. So far, from what we can tell, that hasn’t been the case, and more and more of the country has turned against the government as it has become more and more brutal. On Tuesday, the Prime Minister defected to Jordan. If you are a dictatorial regime, you never want to hear the phrase “the prime minister defected.”

Likewise, the rebels were able to capture 48 Iranians, likely intelligence advisers masquerading as “pilgrims” to Shiite holy sites in Damascus. Iran has now confirmed that they included ‘retired’ members of the Revolutionary Guards.

The assault on Aleppo shows that the regime’s armored division, commanded by Maher al-Assad, the brother of the president, is still intact, loyal and capable. It remains to be seen if a regime facing crumbling internal support can hope to lift itself by its bootstraps, depending almost entirely on its tank and artillery capabilities.

On Tuesday, the regime had renewed its assaults on rebel-held neighborhoods in Damascus, Homs and Rastan, bastions of the largely Sunni resistance, killing, according to dissident sources, over 100 persons. Near Homs, a rebel group attacked an apartment building and killed 16 persons, including Alawites and Christians, in what appears to have been a sectarian massacre. Some fear such atrocities are the future of the country if the civil war grinds on.

Max Weber distinguished between power and authority. Power derives from force or the threat of force. Authority is the likelihood that a command, once given, will be obeyed. Bashar al-Assad still has plenty of force. What seems apparent is that his authority throughout the country is declining daily

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

3 sources say FSA won a surprise one-sided victory today

Even so, other reporters will have to confirm the reports, though in the first case below we already have one independent source outside the FSA supporting its claims.

Al Jazeerah's reporter on the scene says the the military has been completely pushed back by Free Syrian Army fighters.  Here's a video on that:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IODVknGxCo&feature=player_embedded#!

Another Free Syrian Army source who has spoken to the AFP:

"For an hour and a half, the Free Syrian Army has staged a counter-attack and reclaimed three streets out of five seized by regime forces," rebel commander Wassel Ayub told AFP by phone from the northern city.

"We staged our counter-attack after 700 fighters arrived from the southern neighborhood of Sukkari, Bustan al-Qasr, Shaar and Hanano,” said Ayub, who heads the Nour al-Haq Brigade.

These reports tie in with another I recently posted here from the Guardian though it's report also came from an FSA spokesman.

 ENDURING AMERICAN ON ITS SIGNIFICANCE

A military defeat of Assad forces in Saleh el Dine would be completely unexpected - and devastating to the prospects that the city could ever be retaken. As we pointed out earlier (see update 1256), Assad has the largest tactical advantage in this area of the city, an area that also poses the greatest threat to his military bases in southwestern Aleppo. If this news is true, it is one of the most surprising and important victories of the Free Syrian Army so far in this conflict.

And now, the caution - these reports are still unverified. Within hours we will likely have reporters back in the district, or at the very least we'll have video evidence of the events. Also, we don't know if the Assad military is planning for a second strike on the district. Despite our analysis that the Free Syrian Army is much stronger than many think it is, and despite evidence of a severely weakened Assad military, a fight in Saleh el Dine plays to all of Assad's strengths. This is a "David and Goliath" moment, and frankly we're still struggling to believe that such a one-sided victory is possible in the district.

 Syria: The Battle for

 Syria: The Battle for Aleppo Begins as Rebels Retreat

//www.juancole.com/2012/08/syria-the-battle-for-aleppo-begins-as-rebels-retreat.html

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

Iranian people once supported mullahs against shah

and they are still getting rid of the mullah problem over there.  Tell the master planners in the Washington and Tel Aviv that as far as I concern they can go to hell ...

A change should come from within untill then what we have now in Iran is much better than what that's cooking in the oven  by the master planners!!!!