No political movement relating to Iran that has relied on the support or sponsorship of the U.S. or that has based itself in the U.S. can or will have any role in shaping Iran’s future because the U.S. nexus will render such a movement illegitimate given that the U.S. deliberately created, financed, armed, trained and brought the Taliban to power in Afghanistan (with the Saudi’s assistance); and then, the U.S. let the Taliban run wild for many years, while the Taliban caused unspeakable atrocities to civilians and even caused damage to Iran through many negative side-effects, including (among other things) drug smuggling, arms traffic, and millions of war refugees. Does anyone expect the public to believe that the CIA, the U.S. President, and both Houses of the U.S. Congress had no idea what the Taliban was doing for all those years?
(1) Political movements with a nexus to the U.S. :
This clearly means that any movement with a U.S. nexus will never be acceptable to the Iranian people, and that includes everything from the Rajavi movement (MEK) to Reza Pahlavi – They are all non-starters. (Note: The point is not intended to judge Reza Pahlavi's father or grandfather - it simply makes a categorical point. Reza Pahlavi is in the U.S. and draws his support from there. Iran requires home-grown leaders free from foreign pressure and influence. My personal opinion is that Reza Khan did a great service to Iran by bringing about the downfall of the Qajars, but his grandson springs from a different and unacceptable context.)
(2) Human Rights:
The Taliban – a CIA pet program – and all of the massacres and rights abuses they committed automatically renders suspect all drivel about human rights emanating from the U.S. Government. Human rights is a subject that is fair to be concerned about, but can you believe that a government or nation that brought you the Taliban and put them in power has the audacity to pontificate about human rights and lecture others? It would be comical if it weren’t so tragically true.
(3) U.S. Government Media:
Why don’t the programs ‘Parazit,’ VOA, or Radio Liberty / RFE (all of which are U.S. Government owned media outlets) feature stories about America’s direct and longtime sponsorship of a genocidal terror organization or the U.S. practice of meddling in the political affairs of other nations if they really care about the free flow of truthful information? Shakhsiat-e bad of the highest magnitude is the U.S. role in creating, supporting the Taliban and letting them run wild for years. Let’s see them make a Parazit show on that subject and beam it into Tehran.
(4) Democracy, Freedom & the U.S. Government:
The U.S. cares about “democracy,” “freedom,” and “liberty,” right? The next time any U.S. government official makes such statements about “democracy,” ask that the coked-out Arab Sheikhs with their fleet of diamond encrusted Mercedes cars that rule Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, and multitude of other longtime U.S. “friends-&-allies" are present for the U.S. speech on these “important standards and values.” The fact remains that concepts like “democracy” and “human rights” – when uttered or sponsored by the U.S. – are nothing more than manipulative and hollow rhetoric for securing America’s foreign policy objectives and lining the pockets of its elite. The U.S. has no issues in propping-up tyrants and autocrats when it makes Americans better off.
Videos requested:
All videos showing Maryam Rajavi, Reza Pahlavi, or any member of a political movement that seeks a leadership position in Iran speaking-out about the U.S. role in bringing the Taliban to power are encouraged; Please put the video link in the comments section and show us what these candidates for leadership positions have said about the U.S. role with the Taliban. If such speeches don’t exist – particularly in light of the fact that the Taliban has had direct and harmful effects on Iran – one has to wonder why. “Ms. Rajavi, Mr. Pahlavi, You want to lead a country but weren’t willing to speak out about the U.S. bringing terror and drugs to your nation’s border? Really?”
* The people of Afghanistan, are also of Iranic origin, speak a common language, and share other Iranian traditions. Before that territory was named "Afghanistan" it was Iran's province of Greater Khorasan, which the British took by force from Iran during the Qajar era.
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Informative site on US Military activities ....
by ILoveIran on Fri Mar 23, 2012 07:25 PM PDT//www.infowars.com/afghans-u-s-created-and-fu...
on the first line, to make it accurate
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Fri Mar 23, 2012 05:57 PM PDTNo political movement relating to Iran that has relied on the support or sponsorship of the U.S...... can or will have any role in shaping Iran’s future because the U.S. nexus will render such a movement illegitimate. If that were true in the past, then the IRI would not be in power today.
I would change to:
No political movement relating to Iran that has relied on the support or sponsorship of the U.S...... can be good for the people of Iran or serve their interests, if the USA continues down the path it has been on since supporting khomeini and helping to create and secure the IRI. However, if the USA finds itself in a position that for its own survival and due to the competition created with respect to the newly emerging alliance between Germany, the EU and Russia against the USA it is forced to mend its alliance with secular Iranians to deny Russia and China total control of the caspian resources, which the IRI has given them, then the USA will have a major role in restoring freedom and justice for Iranians, which they originally stole in 1979.
On Awareness is key
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Fri Mar 23, 2012 05:25 PM PDTMullahs don't even know why the usa both wants them/loves them and smears them. Nothing causes Iran to go backwards more than religion in government. Hopefully within the mullahs enough of them will move over and start a process of getting Islam out of government and returning the shah before it is too late and Iran is lost. For now there is little to no chance the USA will support RP over mullahs, this is to harm Iran the most, in a sense RP is the USA's captive and that is very sad for people that love Iran with understanding. The USA will keep mullahs and lastly will opt for war down the road and after a war the usa will never support RP or a united Iran. Though war is many years away.
ILoveIran the smearing of iranians is necessary to
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Fri Mar 23, 2012 05:10 PM PDTcontain the development of Iran. According to the 1970's plans of the USA, Iran, the middle east and North Africa are to be run by religous people they arm so they can use that to suppress and Stifle them, the wars and weapons sales are not possible without these muslim brotherhood, taliban, IRI, Alquaeda goons. Sadly we are not far from being Africanized/decimated and the desire for Power sharing / democracy is the tool they use to decieve the masses. In Libya there will be no democratic path, it is not the real goal. In syria if they wanted democracy they would not have hald the opposition be armed sunni extremists like alquaeda. Parazit by definition is not really for Human rights of Iranians either, though they are the only thing Iranians have to wake them up and to get them to realize the real stench of the IRI, which is mostly concealed from Iranians within even the system. So despite being patsys/used, they are ok. America is a master piece of inhumanity really, using peoples real needs to manipulate them in order to then be able to decieve them to their death. The solution, is the people of Iran need to take matters into their own hands and without USA get rid of mollahs with least fighting and bring back what they know for sure puts Iran and her culture first. The whole process will be dangerous. If mullahs had a brain between them they themselves would invite RP back to Iran and remove themselves from government, but they livedby the gun and so they are only prepared to die by the gun and not go peacefully.
on RP suspicion...
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Fri Mar 23, 2012 04:50 PM PDT"casts a serious shadow over anyone that has been reared and nursed by the US government. At a minimum, it raises suspicions. "
Not at all. After his grand father was murdered by the Uk for putting Iran First above himself, and after MRP with a few of his most trusted were poisoned to death by the CIA for never allowing Iran to be treated less than, its a given that his family values are exactly what iran needs. There is no suspicion, it is a true fact he can't do or say a thing that he is not allowed to by the USA, this is a given, all this changes when he is on his own soil, surrounded by his own hand picked team. I'm sure like his father we may see a few murder attempts until his security comes up to par and unlike his father he will not let down his guard to be poisoned by an ally now that every single countries actions with respect to Iranians is crystal clear, from usa to uk to russia to china to eu. If Iranians gained wisdom from 1979 the future is without limit and Iran could in 50 to 100 years be like a Japan/UK story. If not, Iran will become like the democratic republic of congo. 1000's of trillions of dollars of natural resources and not an educated person or even a govt in control.
Awareness is key
by ILoveIran on Fri Mar 23, 2012 04:32 PM PDT... if Iran had created the Taliban (which it didn't) ... Parazit would never have let us hear the end of it ..., but because the US created, sponsored, and armed the Taliban and said nothing while they slaughtered tens of thousands the US government is portrayed as saintly while US and Israeli owned and influenced media outlets look for other things to smear Iranians with.
ILoveIran unlike a ice berg which reveals 9% of itself
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Fri Mar 23, 2012 04:35 PM PDTMany are not aware of even 1/10 of 1% regarding Iran/the USA and its policies, the citizen is only useful if he is masochistically clueless and misinformed in a democracy like the USA. So In a Democracy like the USA they focus is on the intellectuals with respect to misinformation and infact the more well read they are the less the understand. There is no difference between War and Business, Healthcare and Business, Pharmacy and Business, Insurance and Business in the USA. This is a tragedy and at the very root of why the USA and its capitlalism without a leash or regulation is the #1 threat to the World. Iranians will not judge RP while out of power, a leader who needs to focus on getting back to Iran alive. Today staying alive is really #1 for him and #1 for Iranians. RP is a great leader like his father not because he dueto his qualifications alone, but because he represents a team of the secular patriotic Iranians he surrounds himself with or will surround himself with as the opportunity arises. For now All of Iran has fallen off a cliff for 33 years now as a result of the situation RP finds himself in not being able to guarantee even his own life, while also being the lawful King of Iran.
Iloveiran: How are you
by vildemose on Fri Mar 23, 2012 03:59 PM PDTIloveiran: How are you and IRI going to stop America?? Do you live in London?
A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
Iranians will have learned from their mistake,if they are aware
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Fri Mar 23, 2012 03:58 PM PDTof your point, "This clearly means that any movement with a U.S. nexus will never be acceptable to the Iranian people." After all Khomeini was a leader of a movement with a US Nexus and he and the ignoramouses that support the IRI are the worst enemies Iran has ever had. While IRI takes an anti-USA approach, the USA adores them and benefits so much from this that they want mullahs for iran who do the best job at keeping Iran weak and backwards. Personally I would put most iranians in the clueless category and I am not so optimistic they are aware regarding what an enemy the USA has been for Iranians in first betraying the late Iranian government & then in bringing the mullahs to power and finally in keeping them there at all costs despite the better alternatives available to the USA. I enjoy your Pro-Iran iloveiran approach, If we can work together as a people in flushing the IRI down the toilet together & restoring freedom & justice, then this will prove that iloveiran is a real sentiment, not just another ploy.
Reza Pahlavi ... speeches not given
by ILoveIran on Fri Mar 23, 2012 03:59 PM PDTA good family man, like RP, is to be commended for his personal qualities vis-a-vis his family. But the amount of historical US misbehavior regarding Iran's politics and intermeddling therein, casts a serious shadow over anyone that has been reared and nursed by the US government. At a minimum, it raises suspicions.
My own gut feeling (and that's all it is), makes me think that if the US created and supported the Taliban during the time of Kurosh Kabir or Dariush Kabir, these leaders would have said something about it. For those seeking political leadership positions over 80 million people, like Reza Pahlavi, the failure to condemn US sponsored drug smugglers and suicide bombers on your nation's border (and indeed among your own people given that the people of Afghanistan are tied to Iran by culture, language and ethnic makeup) is untenable for many.
Excellent points, disagree with your conclusions
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Fri Mar 23, 2012 03:37 PM PDTon "This clearly means that any
movement with a U.S. nexus will never be acceptable to the Iranian
people, and that includes everything from the Rajavi movement (MEK) to
Reza Pahlavi – They are all non-starters." & On they are all non-starters...Not all of the truth with respect to RP, The USA betrayed and killed RP's father and put all its support and money behind khomeini. If RP can change US policy away from being criminal neo-colonialist towards Iran and her people and towards making the concessions necessary to mend an alliance with Iranians in a peaceful way then this would be a patriotic act. The Points you mentioned are 100% true, though the conclusion lacked undertanding. Politically and morally RP's approach and goal are Noble, he is not the cause of America's failures to mend its alliance justly. The traitors here are the IRI/mullahs who the USA loves and supports because they suppress Irans progress, human rights, freedom and peace, which we enjoyed with the pahlavi's only, that is really why the USA wants the mullahs and cannot attack them and will prevent israel from attacking mullahs and other also other terrorists like rajavi. RP is the only representative of the Iranian people who's family and self acts within the bounds of the law and not outside it. This is essential for Iran if we are to restore a country moving towards achieving the goals of Freedom and Justice for All.