عموجان

Poor lion, he is just sitting waiting for his subsidy check

I like lions they are not political or religious just symbol of independents, braveness, pride, liberty and power. From kingdom of animals we should pick one as symbolof nation also to show our respect for nature.

If you go back and look at old architecture, painting even in history and story books you will find that lions always had a special place in Iran’s history only Pahlavis put it on the flag.

As you  see I didn't put him on the flag, just nearly showing reflection of him. When IRI is gone (not if) people of Iran will decide what they want on their flag but I am sure lion will be one of top name on the list not Arabic calligraphy or what ever that thing is in the middle of flag now (what is that thing any way? Look like symbol of explosion)

Jenob Sragord, I am sorry I should have said (Arabs move on) not IRI

Have you ever thought of calling Dr Holakouee to see may be he could help you?   

I see the usual juje fascists are playing "interrorgator"

like they see people they admire do it on TV.

If I wasn't so bored, I'd chuckle. Another useless waste of time, exposing the severely damaged psychologies on IC.

Why do

people waste their times arguing with this SP? I mean do you really think you have any chance of getting sense out of him? If you do then you are wishful thinking. 

I never reply to his posts anymore because I have better things to do. Like clean up the cat litter! At least that accomplishes something.

Who cares if one's family was someone. Who we are is what matters not who are family was or is.

Hajminator Jan and Simorgh Jan

Ayval, vaghaan khoob goftee keh beh een fakr man ham nayoftadeh boodam.  Een badbakht pas haman hojatoleslam Geronimoye khodemoone hala:)

Simorgh Jan please don't expect much of a real answer from this person who is so confused he doesn't even know where he is from.  First when it suits him, he aligns himself with Iran (but cannot connect at even the most basic level with any Iranian).  When this sad truth becomes clear, he jumps and hides behind America, whose sworn enemies he proudly and shamelessly supports.  And when he becomes completely desperate, he starts saying he is racially superior to Iranians because he is a "native son" of America, when he is at most 1/4 American (whatever that means) so he can feel better about his pathetic self.

But in the end, the truth is crystal clear- he is nothing more than a stateless fascist terrorist, if you will an American Hezbollahi just like John Walker Lindh was an American Taliban.  Except Walker Lindh wasn't a hypocrite, and he actually went and lived among the Taliban and put his money where his mouth was, instead of riding motorcycles in california advocating the rape and torture of Afghans by the Taliban.   This guy won't even denounce the taking of American hostages (a declaration of war on the US) by his beloved mullahs, nor will he support the rights of the Iranian people, and he justifies the imprisonment, torture, and rape of Iranian civilians by his terrorist masters.  He "accepts the Islamic republic of Iran for what it is socially, politically", when he has absolutely no clue what the country of Iran is, nor what it means to be Iranian, and zero understanding of Iranian culture.  The only thing he accepts is a terrorist Hezbollah regime, which has no connection to Iran whatsoever.

Chee begam azeezam, een beechareh yeh badbakhte beevatane, mesleh ye boteh keh reesheh nadareh va harja baad meevazad beh anja bordeh meesheh. Az yeh hamcheen mojoodee vaghaan cheh meesheh entezar dasht ghorboonet...motaasefam

Sargord

I was wrong about you, calling you  a mozdoor of IR. I do not think you are a paid agent. Please accept my apology.

However, I find your support of the criminal gang in Iran reprehensible. I sense, like any member of human race, you would  like to be accepted and respected... and for multiple historical and ethnical factors, you choose to spend time here. Your  background leads you to take positions that pour salt on wounds many Iranians have received in the hands of the Islamic government.

Happy holidays

Ebi jan,

Ghorboon dahanet, be in mass'aleh fekr nakardeh boodam. 

In Sargord hey migeh man Native American-Irooniam vali na iroonia doostesh darnd na amrica-iha!! Hala fahmidam chera :)

Sargord bayad yek sorkh-pust rishoo basheh yeh chizi beyn Geronimo (Chiricahua: Goyaałé, "one who yawns") va Ahmad Khatami. Zood tar migoft, lol.

Delavar

What you say reinforces my argument about how pitentially dangerous people such as Sargord are as mouthpiece for th IR. 

His fundamental argument is this: Any Iranian who opposes the regime  and still hold American citizenship, pays taxes, votes and contributes to society is an exile who cut and run to 'his country'. 

He believes that since his Iranian-Azari family have been living in the USA for many years he has precedence over all 'newer' Americans by virtue of the fact that he is a 'native'.

Not only is his definition of native completely incorrect but by his rationale a native American (sorkh post) or any other American with Apache or Sous heritage would be able to outrank him on how 'American he is' because their family have been on this land farlonger than Sargord has.

Apart from that and his dodgy politcal leanings the man is a joke. 

Sargord

Ok. Let's say that you are not a lier. Ok. Your Grandparents are American. Let's say that you don't even have any Iranian genes or lineage. I'm still not surprised. Given the fact that you have been supporting the Republic of Islam in Iran and what they do in Iran i,e Terror, rape, stoning, torture and you still support them, that implies that you are an American like those who supprot the taliban, Hezbollah; people like the shoe bomber, or and a few who support the Taliban, Hezbollah, or any crazy Jihadi  are just a few and  handful that the public should watch out be aware of. People like you can not and should not be trusted.

Amen to that.

Mehrdad

pedar jadesh ham az korrey

pedar jadesh ham az korrey merikheh.  misheh 1/32 koremerikhi.  hala mitooneh ba tasalot darbareye har mozooee dar kahkeshan sohbat koneh.

jaryane shotor morgh shod...

Simorgh Jaan

 Sepaas,Khodaa ro shokr ke hanooz ye zareh savaad daaram!!

fekr kardam alzaaymer gereftam. 

Ebi aka Haaji

Ebi Jan

Daghighan manish hamine! Sorkh pust. In aghaye Mark mikhad kelas bezare bege man emrikayee hastam vakli shoma nistin. Fak or familesh az hamun Rashte mast! Ha Ha. Hala bare hame 'Native Amerian shode'

Hajminator & Simorgh jaan

 man bisavaadam,begin bebinam,aaya Native American ya'ni Sorkh poost!lol

Ebi aka Haaji

Sargord

Verbal diarrhoea (English spelling!). 

. I should point out that I make a point of advocating from the America
perspective rather than Iran. There's probably exceptions but usually
this is the case. The reason is simple: I live in the US. Who am
I,--someone that lives in the US--to judge how they go about life?
That's what I mean when I say I accept Iran for what it is, politically
as well as socially. 

What an earth does this mean? Do you condemn the embassy take overs or not? I don't understand. When the US embassy was attacked in Kenya did you condemn it or do you seek to know the terrorist movements first? When the trade centres and the Pentagon were  attacked did you need to be satisfied first how Al-Qaida 'thinked and went about life', first? 

You claim to be American by nationality and allegiance first  and Iranian by heritage.

Simorgh

I'm sorry, I'm not understanding you. Are you trying to argue that my Native American family has been wrong for centuries about its roots and cultural identity? That's bizarre, Simorgh.

I thought I answered your question about the US embassy takeover. I should point out that I make a point of advocating from the America perspective rather than Iran. There's probably exceptions but usually this is the case. The reason is simple: I live in the US. Who am I,--someone that lives in the US--to judge how they go about life? That's what I mean when I say I accept Iran for what it is, politically as well as socially. Who am I to say otherwise? Really, voting in Iranian elections is as far as I can go in terms of applied advocacy. I'm granted this right as a citizen based on paternal lineage. Beyond that, I can offer opinions. But notice how most of my opinions are grounded in American references.

Anyway, sometimes it isn't easy being both American and Iranian given the tortuous 32 year history. But there are some personal rewards, as well. And dual-citizenship is one of them, to be sure. 

Haj

But no one seems to pick up on his bogus I am a "native American son" and "my family were here since the ice age" crap. He has to learn that he is no more American than the naturalised Iranian 'Exile'  or FOB immigrant who decides to settle in the USA.

People like Sargord Mark are more dangerous than you think. They are smart ass agents of the IR to try and sell the IR from his 'American' point of view. He should be denounced with the same zeal as he attacks Fred. 

Baba vel kon Simorgh,

In yaroo loulou ba har-chi bishtar assabaniat, bishtar charge misheh - mageh nemibini?

Sargord,

With our olive skin, we 'true' iranians are labeled more attractable than repellent.

It should be somehting else ... Good idea you had, ask your mom (lol) and come back tell us the truth.

Sargord

I heave not missed out on posts and I relish exposing (and rather succesffully, if I may say so) your fake family roots to America.

Here is a  online dictionary definition for you:

A member of any of the indigenous peoples of the Western Hemisphere. The
ancestors of the Native Americans are generally considered by
scientists to have entered the Americas from Asia by way of the Bering
Strait sometime during the late glacial epoch.

This is the view also shared by the USA Diplomatic mission trade mission:

//usa.usembassy.de/society-natives.htm

YourAzari/Iranian routes are NOT scientifically American.By this I mean you are no more American, or entitled to use the words "native son" of America than the other 'exiles' you condemn.

Also, as an American, your allegience should be to the USA and to no other country - words said by you. Your civic duty would be to defend your territory and then question the polices of your government and not 'I wouldn't have done it'. - Mayvbe you should learn from your nephew!

I'll ask you again: Do you condemn the taking over of the embasy. Yes or No?

lol w/Haji

"Good American genes." Oh, that's a good one, Haji. I gotta tell that to my mom when I see her over Christmas. 

Yeah those were some tense days back in early 2002 for those of us with olive skin. I will say this, though, the airport workers were especially professional in trying to reduce the tension. Not an easy task with all the woodland camo BDUs and M-16s being toted about.

Sargord,

Native American or not, you have to admit that neither your grand pa nor your mom weren't able to transmit the "Good" american genes to you. You know, the ones helping you to be assimilated in the American society, those which won't provoke panic when you enter an airplan while traveling to Hawaii...

Simorgh

Unconventional? Criminy, Simorgh, you're an Iranian immigrant in the UK. I don't expect you to be familiar with social aspects of the American southwest. And I don't think you're sincere in learning about it. I have posted links to photos of my maternal American grandfather and great grandmother on another thread. They're pretty obvious. If you missed it, sorry about that.

Yes, my paternal grandmother was Azari-Iranian and my paternal grandfather was Persian-Iranian.

The US embassy takeover? Not something I would have participated in, no. I will say this, though, President Carter was warned about blowback from letting the puppet stooge into the US. Really unfortunate he did so as the blowback capsized his reelection and we were unfortunately saddled with Reagan for eight years. 

Not so fast Sargord.

Native American grandfather? I seem to rememebr your definition of 'native American' was unconventional, to say the least. You have stated your heritage is Azari-Iranian.

Please clarify what you mean by native American? 

Even those exiles you routinely condemn all have American certificates. So what?  Those exiles have REAL American wives and children. 

Finally, I'll ask you again: Do you unreservedly condemn the US embassy takeover by terrorist thugs in 1979? As an American why do you shy away from the question? 

This is the fourth time I am asking you this question.

'Yes' or 'No'. 

Simorgh

Gee, I'm devastated. You mean my 102 year old native American grandfather whom I've known all my life isn't mine? And my American mom isn't mine? And my American aunts and uncle weren't mine? And my American cousins aren't mine? My American birth certificate isn't mine? It's all been fake, all these years?

LOL.

C'mon, Simorgh, it's okay to disagree with me. But this kind of thing is ridiculous. What's the deal anyway? Are you jealous or what? 

Sargord

I have totally exposed your bogus claims that your family in America has been living there 'sice the icea age' - unless of course, Azarbaijan or Iran are in north America.

Secondly. You still refuse to answer the question despite the fact that you boast loving America: Do you or do you not condemn the takeover of the US Embassy (American territory) in 1ran in 1979 unreservedly. 

You have lied that your nationality and allegience is American and not Iranian. Where do you stand on that matter? 

Just admit you are a complete FAKE

Simorgh

Don't take my word for it, Darius is the one that often trumpets that YouTube clip of those resigned, younger demonstrators in LA who, following the 2009 election, had their demonstration hijacked by a bunch of old, crusty and smelly Lion-puss flag waving self-exiles. Maybe you're not familiar with that type, Simorgh, you living in the UK not LA. Myself, I wouldn't know--you got that kind in your neighborhood?

Sargord, did you say 'hijack?'

You Islamists are very fond of that word, aren't you?

Now that you've mentioned the word 'hijacking' I had asked you on two occasions now whether you, as an American (allegedly), condemn the hijacking of the US embassy in 1979 by terrorists  and whether this was tantamount to an act of war.

A simple answer would do. 

My, I'm so glad we're in

My, I'm so glad we're in "worth" shape. Lemme guess, you're one of those Lion-puss flag wavers that turns up to hijack demonstrations wherever there are Iranians holding up placards for whatever reason, right?