It is getting tiring to read if we support our country, then we are regime supporters. Do we say to you that you are a US or West apologist?
Let me say several things:
(1) Our people, especially those who live in the West are namak nashnas.
(2) Our people, especially those who live in the West are khasis and Moftkhors.
(3) Our people, especially those who live in the West are the ones who left before or during the Shah (most are monarchists or MKO type individuals).
(4) Our people are exposed to Western propaganda on a daily basis.
(5) How many of you have returned to help Iran? (vacation visits do not count).
WHO are you to question what Iran does??? Do we question what America does? Do we need permission from the West before doing anything in a sovereign nation?
Regarding civilian airplane parts, even Russia or China buys Western parts. This applies to medicine. The West is taking our raw materials for almost pennies on the dollar and selling back to us and other countries goods with enormous profits. Remember, Science and Technology has no boundary. Iran is sharing its knowledge with other countries. Many Americans have access to Iranian latest medical technology.
I am for exporting NO raw materials to the West. How do you like that?
Iran cannot make everything by itself from scratch. But if it is in the forefront of a given research that demonstrates that it is capable of producing anything. As for the missiles, when the strongest war monger in the world wants to attack you and they are jamming every signals except those which are beamed through VOA into our country, what do you suggest us to do? Defend ourselves or invite greengos to come in?
Many Ey-ranians have witnessed how the US has destroyed Iraq and now Afghanistan. Iran also has been hurt through illegal sanctions and other means (especially Ey-ranians who are paid by CIA to work against us).
I am not Ahmadinejad supporter nor voted for him, but you cannot blame everything on him or the regime. What you see the U.S. is doing is NOT about Ahmadinejad what he said or did. When Khatami was the President (the man who is supporting Mousavi) he did everything the US asked, but what we get? Read:
On January 15, 2003, a full-page advertisement appeared in the New York Times (page A19): “150 Members of U.S. Congress Declare Support for the People’s Mojahedin (PMOI), Call for an End to Iran’s Terrorist Regime”. This advertisement contained the names of only 6 of the signers of the “Iran Statement”: Democrats Bob Filner (California), Sheila Jackson-Lee (Texas), Edolphus Towns (New York); Republicans Lincoln Diaz-Balart (Florida), Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Florida), Tom Tancredo (Colorado). Former Attorney General John Ashcroft, an MEK supporter while Senator, raided Jafarzadeh’s home to take boxes of documents. In July 2004, the American government recognized each terrorist as a special person under the Fourth Geneva Convention and required the American military to protect America’s enemies.
While this group in Congress refused to reveal the names of the other signers of the Iran Statement, 5 of the 6 supporters of the MEK takeover of Iran have signed as sponsors or co-sponsors of the Iran Freedom Support Act.
In summary, the boogey man Al-Qaeda is no one other than your Uncle Sam.
//www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/02/who-cut-the-cab/
After two underwater cable cuts in the Middle East last week severely impacted countries from Dubai to India, alert netizens voiced suspicions that someone — most likely Al Qaeda — intentionally severed the cables for their own nefarious purposes, or that the U.S. cut them as a lead-in to an attack on Iran.
Iran has come a long way since cowboy days of Reagan, I suggest you keep up with the news and not gossip about supporters of the regime. We are Iranians who will do anything regardless of who is in power to prevent our people from getting hurt when another country attacks us. We will defend our country as we have for thousands of years. We are Iranians.
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Indeed Javadagha
by marhoum Kharmagas on Mon Feb 08, 2010 09:08 AM PSTThis is what the Jewish liberal, George Soros says:
"I am not sufficiently engaged in Jewish affairs to be involved in the reform of AIPAC; but I must speak out in favor of the critical process that is at the heart of our open society. I believe that a much-needed self-examination of American policy in the Middle East has started in this country; but it can't make much headway as long as AIPAC retains powerful influence in both the Democratic and Republican parties. Some leaders of the Democratic Party have promised to bring about a change of direction but they cannot deliver on that promise until they are able to resist the dictates of AIPAC....."
the majority of people understand that Israel runs the U.S. gov.
by Javadagha on Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:00 AM PSTTo sum up what I started: I agree with Nur-i-Azal, however, I would not use his strong language.
Let me add few more comments: If Iraq has become a good country, why bushtheliberator don’t you go and live there? I will never forget how Iraq’s national museum’s content was emptied and now they are displayed at London and New York Metropolitan museums. USA will NOT leave Iraq, Iraqi’s are not better off.
Our people, especially those who live in the West, deny about government spies, and no freedom of speech. Freedom of speech does not mean to criticize Iran. Specially when the US government has spent millions of dollars for this purpose. I think the majority of people understand that Israel runs the U.S. government and NO one can criticize Israel. I remember more than 100 people who lost their jobs when I worked in the U.S. for their disagreements either with US government or the establishment. I wish I had time to find some of these cases. One was in Colorado, one in Chicago. I think one of them is Finkelstein:
//www.gilad.co.uk/writings/finkelstein-says-no-to-crocodile-tears.html
As the replies to this blog demonstrate, our people are good at ridiculing and name calling those who are doing something positive for our country. In general, our people are self-centered, ignorant, and moftkhor. They change their jobs, countries, wives or husbands more often than they change their underwear and are opportunistic people.
The Iranians who think they are intellectual bother me to the point that I think they have become like Reagan or Bush, that if you do not condemn IRI (now Ahmadinejad), then you must support them. Our people choose a country where they can get the most from it, very selfish. These moftkhor people do not realize illegal US sanctions are hurting our people. If replies to this post were different, then I would be surprised, but I am not. Our people have not changed, thus Iran is in this condition.
Screw AmeriKKKa, F*&@ the IRI, lump the MKO,...
by Nur-i-Azal on Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:31 AM PSTAmeriKKKa and its glutonous consumerist driven way of life/greed is the root of all the problems that Iran, the entire region and much of the rest of the world faces today. It is an Imperial Empire like all the others before it and it has done great evil in the world whether to the Indigenous peoples it colonized, those it brought as slaves, or the rest of the world it has screwed blind!
The IRI is an imposed totalitarian catastrophe that is equal to and in some cases far outpaces in catastrophic scope the Mongol invasion of Iran. This regime is not Islamic (and never has been) and it is not Iranian either. It was manufactured by powerful think-tanks and the Bernard Lewis' (adhu bi'Llahi min ash-shaytan ar-rajim) who manufactured green belt theories and imposed it on us 1) in order to destabilize and destroy the Soviet Union and 2) because the West feared the military/political/economic potential of Iran had the Shah's great civilization project reached its conclusion and Iran become a true power house in Eurasia.
The MKO are a lunatic fringe of misled leftwing has-beens who were unwitting pawns of the great game that brought Khomeini and his totalitarian Islamist wankers to power.
Marg bar Amrika, Death to the IRI, down with the MKO! Power to the meek!
Javadagha ,one more easy question.
by bushtheliberator on Sun Feb 07, 2010 08:07 PM PSTWhat country ended the dictatorship in Iraq, where there is now freedom of speech, and elections where votes COUNT ?
Javad
by Cost-of-Progress on Sun Feb 07, 2010 07:39 PM PSTYou DO NOT support your country, you support a regime that is anti country.
You guys are amazing. Do you really believe that it has to be a bunch of incompetent people claiming to be "rohaani" to make you feel independent? Are you blind to see what's happening in YOUR country?
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Javat Agha
by masoudA on Sun Feb 07, 2010 07:37 PM PSTOne thing you will never get is: I am not an American apologist - I a an American. You see the day this country gave me an education and a home - it became my home. Don't make a mistake - I am still more Iranian than you will ever be - I still put Iran first - but when it comes to America - I seek and breath interests of America, just as I do Iran's. Thank god these days - there are no conflicts between interests of the two - we both hate mullahs, and their culture.
Javadagah: Please do speak
by vildemose on Sun Feb 07, 2010 06:21 PM PSTJavadagah: Please do speak against US crimes. Many American do on a daily basis across America without being raped, tortured or killed whilst speaking against IRI gets you killed in Iran.
But please don't tell us that these tasks as either mutually exclusive or that one somehow makes the other one okay.
Whoever opposes the IRI is not...
by ahvazi on Sun Feb 07, 2010 01:19 PM PSTPro-American, they are pro-Iranian nation.
We are Iranians.
by Javadagha on Sun Feb 07, 2010 01:12 PM PSTZereshk, practice what you preach. Farsi is not a Persian word. I do not believe in any religion so I cannot answer your questions. Focus on the topic. vildemose, I agree with you, the USA atrocities do not justify IRI committing its own atrocities.
My family did not have much under Shah and does not have much under IRI. Female members of my family wear hejab and they do not like it except my mother. My family members are all nationalists. We will never trade Iran living in other countries. We are Iranians.
Americans think they are free. //www.opednews.com/articles/Liberty-Has-Been-Lost-by-Paul-Craig-Roberts-100105-429.html Being against IRI should not blind you from the illegal activities against our people. USA bribes other countries to go against us. USA is giving the diplomacy a lip service, the sanctions imposed on Iran are illegal. Referring Iran’s nuclear deal to the UNSC was a violation of the NPT.
Those of us who are nationalists will not stand to USA bullying us. We detest Eye-ranians either because of their paychecks or any other reasons support the USA. This has been the main point of my blog: We are Iranians.
Regime apologists are at it again
by mahmoudg on Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:59 AM PSTThey forget that the regime has for 30 years expressed itself in more brutal terms than both Hitler and Stalin put together. We only have Islam to thank for this, the only way to steer Persia back into mainstream so it can sell its raw materials on the world markets at profitable prices and be a responsible citizen of the world, so it can pick itself up from 1400 years of "Jehalat" and be like India, China and Japan is to bring about a regime change and throw the Islamic Republic into the dustbin of history.
javadagah: Did you just
by vildemose on Sun Feb 07, 2010 07:33 AM PSTjavadagah: Did you just figure out that the world is run by the rich and powerful imperialists and yes, not all Americans either? Didn't you read Chomsky? So, US imperialism justifies the IRI atrocities against its own citizen, thieving, plunder, corruption, inhumanity, immorality, mismangement, utter incompetence in governance, brutality?? Is that your argument??
Javot agha: What are you going to do about this big bad imperialist??? Is the IRGC going to defeat the "imperialists" with their flying boats???
Chemical companies making 800 products from oil was used as a ba
by Javadagha on Sat Feb 06, 2010 08:47 PM PSTThe questions which I asked are in relation to Eye-ranians and Iran. They have nothing to do with www.american.com or www.anyother.com (LOL)
Chemical companies making 800 products from oil was used as a base. Burning oil and gas is the easiest and least economical method. Other products: Kateera, gol-e-gav zaboon and other medicinal raw materials, Granite, Saffron, and more.
Thanks Q jaan for the great quote.
Q
by Miko on Sat Feb 06, 2010 07:42 PM PSTGreat video Kharmagas,
by Q on Sat Feb 06, 2010 07:09 PM PSTthanks for posting it.
I'm reminded of a famous Sinclair quote:
“You cannot make a man believe that which his paycheck depends on him not believing.”
Miko: actually that claim was made by non other than the Shah himself in a few interviews.
1984 by George Orwell
by Fair on Sat Feb 06, 2010 06:10 PM PSTOne leader declaring an election divine and final without verification="democracy"
Same leader declaring war on the population="legitimate"
questioning election outcome = "war with God"
civilians asking for their rights = "subversives"
banning newspapers, arrest and torture of reporters = "free press"
rapist armed woman beating executioner with license to kill = "mainstream"
expecting one's universal human and civil rights= "hating"
fascist supporters= "non-exiles"
millions of peaceful protestors = "undercurrent"
unlawful imprisonment without trial, execution, rape, torture="law enforcement"
arrest without charge, trial without defense="judiciary"
deny people's right to express themselves peacefully="law enforcement"
posting propaganda and lies = "expressing one's self"
dissent="zionist, British, American neocon"
crashing airliners="technological accomplishment"
threatening regional governments with annihilation= "defense"
-Fair ( = "subversive" )
Questions to USA Apologists
by Javadagha on Sat Feb 06, 2010 05:43 PM PSTMarhoum jaan; thanks for the video. It is very powerful.
Questions to USA apologists:
(1) Why a country that went to the moon cannot make efficient cars (less dependent on oil)? Is it because of power of its military industry?
(2) What was the main reason to attack Iraq? The UN did not approve it but the allies (US, UK, and 8 US islands, and three other countries) attacked Iraq on their own. Why? WMD?
(3) Who was responsible for American financial melt down which spread to all over the world? Who were the thieves?
(4) Why Wall Street thriving while Main Street struggling? Have Ey-ranians been part of this thievery?
(5) CIA has put dictators into power, is this true? What if dictators get tired of doing what CIA tells them, then what happens?
(6) Is it true that CIA has a history of illegal activities including selling drugs, meddling in other nations elections and affairs? (hint: Iran Contra affairs).
(7) The U.S. and few of its allies have illegally gone against national interests of other countries to benefit ruling elites and big corporations? Are there any Ey-ranians part of this elitist group?
(8) The new EU President, who was APPOINTED said that he does not need to answer to the people. The EU Governing body makes the rules, and member states must obey them. What is the role of the UN? Keep issuing illegal sanctions against Iran?
(9) Why do you think the USA administrations keep devaluing the $$ by more bailouts, wars, and stimulus spending?
(10)What are the roles of Rothchilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, and the like in the above questions?
(11)Is it true that Senate passed a bill where police and the agents can enter your house without search warrants?
(12)Why is so that people cannot keep off their eyes off their children in America? People, especially women cannot go for a walk in major cities at night? Why porno industry makes more money than good businesses? Why an average American school child fails miserably in every exam compared to an Indian or an Iranian?
(13)More questions??????
Javad agha
by cyclicforward on Sat Feb 06, 2010 04:16 PM PSTYou are a low life that is selling Iran and Iranians for pennies. If you don't understand what has been happening for the last thirty years then I am very sorry for you. You are a disgrace to Iranian nation along with Sargord and a the rest of IRI supporters. I hope you all pay for your crimes.
I agree, Bavafa
by Sargord Pirouz on Sat Feb 06, 2010 03:26 PM PSTI take a lot of heat here on IC just because I am not a subversive. In fact, I would go so far as to say I am a mainstream non-exile.
For certain blind hating subversives, that seems to be too much for them to bear. I get attacked and accused everywhere. But I don't let it get to me.
I'm here to learn and express myself. The hate posts and comments offer me nothing, so I ignore them. They bounce right off.
agha Javd damet garm
by marhoum Kharmagas on Sat Feb 06, 2010 03:29 PM PSTI too don't like IRI's interlal politics, but I wish Iran/IRI continued success in keeping the U.S/Istraeli military corporate fascism out of Iran (watch this short clip if you get a chance):
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8
The fact of the matter is
by Bavafa on Sat Feb 06, 2010 03:04 PM PSTThe fact of the matter is that there are people on both side that their only intention is to create a divide. Accusing one as pro IRI when that person clearly is all against IRI, or vice versa?
And just to a few that just use negative language to debunk the pro IRI guys (I guess Sargord or Ghollam would be such) just shows your own lack of knowledge and weakness in your argument. If you have any thing to say against their content, say that but not JUST by cussing at him. Same thing goes for the other side, not all of those who are against IRI are for the West come and setup a camp in Iran or are blindly kissing the West rear.
Mehrdad
P.S. Now watch that just by this post I will be accused of both IRI and West apologist :)
what are you doing here?
by MM on Sat Feb 06, 2010 01:58 PM PSTand where is it?
Pennies on Dollar?
by Miko on Sat Feb 06, 2010 02:09 PM PST"The West is taking our raw materials for almost pennies on the dollar and selling back to us and other countries goods with enormous profits."
//www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=114126§ionid=351020102