My other half loves this track but doesnt know the name of the song or the album it comes from. I have searched and searched through so many sites listening to hundreds of tracks and I cant find it. Its begining to drive me mad... Im geting obsessional. I want to surprise him, so cant engage his help.
This is the youtube video which is all Ive had to go on.
Many thanks
Javaneh
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یک سوال
م.هوشمند (not verified)Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:52 PM PDT
با درود به دوستان این سایت، من میخوام نظر خود رو در باره ترانهها و آواز سنتی ایرانی بیان کنم. برای من همیشه این سوال بود که چرا آهنگ و ترانه سنتی ایرانی غم انگیز هستند. ریشه این مساله چیست، علت چه بود و چیست که ما علاقمند به افسردگی هستیم. هدف من یافتن جوابی برای این سوال است و قصد و نیت بدی ندارم. من فکر میکنم گوش دادن به اینگونه ترانهها روح انسان را کسل و حالت بیرمقی و افسردگی در شنونده ایجاد میکند. یک حالت قربانی شدن، ضعف در برابر زور و پناه به افسردگی و پنهان شدن پشت آن است. خواهش میکنم نظر خودتون را بیان کنید. شاید من اشتباه میکنم. ولی خیلی مایلم بدونم ریشه این نوع ترانه، شعر و آهنگ کی و از کجا شروع شد. امیدوارم خاطر کسی را آزرده نکرده باشم.
Thanks all!
by Jaleho on Fri Oct 31, 2008 08:16 AM PDTJavaneh, actually trying to nail down the exact CD with that particular song on it, I did a quick review of some of my old Shajarian stuff, and got lost in their beauty and forgot your question :-)
The new ones are so great that I had forgetten how wonderful was his work with Niakian and Andalibi.
Now that there are so many fans around here, let me give a recommendation of a favorite that probably many of you already have. After his great "BAM DVD" which is a #1 must have, I believe, there is this new set of double DVD with a new set of people. I got it from Iran, it is from Summer '86 in "bozorgdasht Saadi". The collection has two DVDs, one is called "Sokhan eshgh", and the other is called "ghoghaye eshgjbazaan". Sorry for not writing in Farsi, I though Javaneh might be interested in a Christman gift idea for her husband :-)
WOW .. :)
by javaneh29 on Fri Oct 31, 2008 02:49 AM PDTyou guys have been fantastic. Thank you all so much to everyone that contributed here. Its been a real problem for me and Im so grateful.
I have followed all of the leads up and have downloaded those that I can. And Ive sent an email to your friend Mr Ahad Chamn Ara Majid just to make sure I have the right track before I buy it.
Ebi ... thanks so much for all the leads. Im so sorry to say yes after a while, ie after listening to hundreds of tracks, they do sound simular to my ear. Dont forget im not irani and this music is difficult for me to understand. Shame on me. I am familiar and enjoy listening to much of shajarian's music but this type is for a more cultured ear than mine!!
Abarmard .. thanks for the words .. I dont read farsi but I will give them to my husband.
He is going to be so happy if I have managed to find it .. thanks to you guys.
daste shoma dard nakon
Ghorbunet shoma
Javaneh
و جان کلام .......
MajidThu Oct 30, 2008 11:19 PM PDT
سینه مالامال درد استای دریغا همدمی
دل ز تنهایی بجان آمد خدا را همدمی
چشم آسایش که دارد از سپهر تیز رو
ساقیا جامی به من ده تا بیاسایم دمی
آدمی در عالم خاکی نمیآید بدست
عالمی دیگر بباید ساخت وز نو آدمی
..............
در حریم عشقبازی امن و آسایش بلاست
ریش باد آن دل که با درد تو خواهد مرحمی
May be I should stand corrected !
by Majid on Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:56 PM PDTThanks to everyone for some refreshing breeze from HOME!
I think I'm getting too old now...LOL
You know! memory is the second thing to go, I forgot what the first one was ! "Bar pedar e har chi taghvim e la'nat"!
I was just trying to help a hamvatan as best as I could, but Abarmard made me "khejel" with the lyrics and other friends with links...LOL
I guess everyone else is right on the money exept me!
That album, if I'm not wrong AGAIN!...LOL was provided exclusively thru the Master himself, and he denied any help or offer to get it produced or marketed, his logic was....(I'm trying to do a census as who still values the value) ! that's what I've heard from one of his very close friends.
Thanks again good friends.
The name of the album is
by Abadani (not verified) on Thu Oct 30, 2008 09:36 PM PDTThe name of the album is Asstan-e-janan. In [dastgah]sure. The piece is Dashetestani-Kord bayat. It was performed in a semi-private setting in Iran-Italy Cultural Association in Tehran in 1982 (during The War). The lyric for the entire album was picked meticulously as it could be, plausibly, argued to be a protest of then Iranian government policy against music. Bayat Turk, Dashti, Kurd-Bayat (all seb sets of Dastgah Sure) were performd. His first performance after the revolution was Sepideh(in Mahoor) right after the Revoltion (Summer of 79) with Sheyda ensamble, which concert was canceled the after the first night. So one couls say that this is his first concert without Sheyda ensamble. The Zarb by late Farhang-Far is at its best.
Shajarian - Astane Janan
by ebi amirhosseini on Thu Oct 30, 2008 09:10 PM PDT//www.persianhub.org/downloads/shajarian/76/2581/download-shajarian-astane-janan/
My finding about the song
by Abarmard on Thu Oct 30, 2008 08:28 PM PDTباباطاهر
آلبوم آستان جانان
دلا از دست تنهایی به جونم
ز آه و ناله خود در فغونم
شبان تار از درد جدایی
کره فریاد، مغز استخونم
عزیزون از غم و درد جدایی
به چشمونم نمونده روشنایی
گرفتارم به دام غربت و درد
نه یار و همدمی، نه آشنایی
غم عشقت بیابان پرورم کرد
هوای بخت، بی بال و پرم کرد
به ما گفتی صبوری کن صبوری
صبوری، طرفه خاکی بر سرم کرد
فلک کی بشنوه آه و فغونم
به هر گردش زنه آتش به جونم
یک عمری بگذرونم با غم و درد
به کام دل نگرده آسمونم
نمیدونم دلم دیوونه کیست
اسیر نرگس مستونه کیست
نمیدونم دل سرگشته ما
کجا میگردد و در خونه کیست
مو که افسرده حالم، چون ننالم
شکسته پر و بالم، چون ننالم
همه گویند فلانی ناله کم کن
ته آیی در خیالم، چون ننالم
خوش آن ساعت که یار از در، در آیود
شب هجرون و روز غم سرآیود
ز دل بیرون کنم جان را به صد شوق
همی واجم که جایش دلبر آیود
مو آن آزرده بی خانمونم
مو آن محنت نصیب سخت جونم
مو آن سرگشته خارم در بیابون
که هر بادی وزد، پیشش دوونم
به صحرا بنگرم، صحرا ته بینم
به دریا بنگرم، دریا ته بینم
به هرجا بنگرم، کوه و در و دشت
نشان از قامت رعنا ته بینم
دلی دیرم که بهبودش نمیبو
نصیحت کردم و سودش نمیبو
به بادش میدهم، نش میبره باد
در آتش مینهم، دودش نمیبو
سری دیرم که سامونش نمیبو
غمی دیرم که پایانش نمیبو
اگر باور نداری سوی من آی
ببین دردی که درمانش نمیبو
بود درد مو و درمونم از دوست
بود وصل مو و هجرونم از دوست
اگر قصاب مستم واکره پوست
جدا هرگز نگرده جونم از دوست
نصیب کس مبو درد دل ما
که بسیاره غم بیحاصل ما
کسی بو از غم و دردم خبر داشت
که داره مشکلی چون مشکل ما
به آهی گنبد خضرا بسوزان
فلک را جمله سر تا پا بسوزان
بسوزم ورنه کارم را بسازی
چه فرمایی، بسازی یا بسوزم
مو کز سوتهدلانم چون ننالم
مو کز بیحاصلانم، چون ننالم
نشسته بلبلان با گل بنالند
مو که دور از گلانم، چون ننالم
Free download
by ebi amirhosseini on Thu Oct 30, 2008 06:33 PM PDTJavaneh Jaan:
Bidad & all his other albums:
//www.persianhub.org/downloads/shajarian/76/2594/download-shajarian-bidad/
Good luck
Javaaneh Jaan
by ebi amirhosseini on Thu Oct 30, 2008 05:14 PM PDTThanks to Majid,All the info is here & you can listen to it :
//www.umahal.com/album/2436.htm
Found it! WHEW...LOL
by Majid on Thu Oct 30, 2008 05:16 PM PDTAlbum......."Bi daad"
//www.musicboxla.com/shbidve.html
I just finished talking to Mr. Ahad Chamn Ara, @ Music Box store in Westwood Blvd. Los Angeles California "Tehrangeles"...LOL
They have it in stock , here is how to contact him...
www.musicboxla.com
(310) 473-3466
If I can be of more help let me know
Javaneh Jaan !!
by ebi amirhosseini on Thu Oct 30, 2008 04:07 PM PDTsimilar?
//www.rhapsody.com/mohammadrezashadjarian/theabuataconcert/dashtestani
//www.mtraks.com/artist/m_r_shajarian/track/563553-dashtestani/
Guys ..thanks
by javaneh29 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 03:31 PM PDTMany thanks to you all.
Abarmard we have sere eshgh and is not that for sure.... I know it well and even if I didnt recognise it my other half would! I thnk it sounds simular, but many thanks anyway.
And Majid and Ebi I think you are right but I cant find anywhere to download it from now! Im such a PAIN I know but any ideas. Have tried all the usual sites like iranianmp3, persianhub, iranproud. ????
Javaneh
Javaneh Jaan !!
by ebi amirhosseini on Thu Oct 30, 2008 03:15 PM PDTcheck this site,it has all his albums with details:
//www.umahal.com/person/12.htm
good luck
Dear Javaneh
by Abarmard on Thu Oct 30, 2008 02:48 PM PDTThis is a great song from the album Ser e Eshgh:
سر عشق
...
by Red Wine on Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:28 PM PDTShajarian is not bad ... I still prefer the old school .Thank you ma'am for this.
Javaneh
by Majid on Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:01 PM PDTIf I'm not wrong this was the first album he produced after revolution, I hope I'm right in this, the song is called "Dashtestaani" from the album "Sheida'ee"
Hope it helps.