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09-Jun-2012
The six links below are to must see videos for anybody interested in understanding the larger context of what is going on with Iran, America, and Israel.
The first three links are for an astonishing comprehensive three part film called "The Power Principle" that presents an in-depth look at the American Empire and its roots.
In the first part, about eight minutes in, it covers the 1953 coup in Iran with some great historical footage.
//www.openfilm.com/videos/the-power-principle...
//www.openfilm.com/videos/the-power-principle...
//www.openfilm.com/videos/the-power-principle...
The two links below are an interview with Norman Finkelstein who is a survivor of the Holocaust and extremely well informed about Israeli behavior. After the links I've copy-pasted a couple of excerpts of the interview.
//www.democracynow.org/2012/6/4/norman_finkel...
//www.democracynow.org/2012/6/4/norman_finkel...
Finkelstein: "If you read Israeli historians now, people like Tom Segev, who I know you’ve had on the program, and Benny Morris, whom you’ve had on the program, they both acknowledge freely that right from—right from the beginning of the Israeli occupation, they both write, Israel was practicing torture of Palestinian detainees. And they just pass by it as if this is common knowledge. But in the—at the time, during the 1970s and 1980s, it was impossible to make that claim without being accused of being an anti-Semite or, in the case of Jews, being a self-hating Jew or just being crazy."
"But now, after the 1990s, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, B’Tselem, and they’re all saying Israel is systematically practicing torture. They estimate about 85 percent of Israeli—excuse me, of Palestinian detainees were being tortured by Israel. Human Rights Watch estimated that during the First Intifada between 20,000 and 30,000 Palestinians had been tortured."
"We want Israel to be held to the same standard as everyone else—enforce the law."
"And the law is pretty clear. You know, people say the law is nebulous, gray areas, ambiguous. No, the law is pretty straightforward. The settlements are illegal under international law. All 15 judges on the International Court of Justice said so. Israel has no title to any of the West Bank, Gaza or East Jerusalem. All 15 judges on the International Court of Justice said so. And the Palestinians have the right of return, or so says Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch."
"Just to take one other example, you are in the—I speak a lot on college campuses. And liberal American Jews, especially young American Jews, they’re very idealistic, as I’m sure you know from your own experience and your own family. They tend to be liberal and idealistic. So it’s 2006. Israel invades Lebanon. It’s the last 72 hours. The war is over. It’s over. Israel—the U.N. has passed a resolution finally. Condoleezza Rice is blocking it. The war is now over. And then in the last 72 hours, Israel drops four million—four million cluster submunitions on South Lebanon. Human Rights Watch did a very good report; it’s called "Flooding South Lebanon." "Flooding South Lebanon." Now, you’re young, you’re Jewish, you’re in a college campus—you don’t want to defend that in public."
"Or it’s 2008, 2009, Israel invades Gaza, and it drops white phosphorus, a substance that reaches 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit. It drops it on two hospitals: al-Quds Hospital, al-Wafa Hospital. You’re young, you’re Jewish, you’re idealistic—you don’t want to defend those sorts of things. It’s just impossible for you, especially if you’re a younger person. You haven’t yet become too cynical about the ways of the world. It’s impossible for you to reconcile your idealistic liberal credo, beliefs. And young people, as I hope you still remember, they tend to really believe what they say. There’s a certain depth of passion and commitment, conviction, honest conviction. They can’t reconcile that with the way Israel carries on. It’ not possible."
"The limit in the world today is what human rights organizations are saying, what the International Court of Justice is saying, what the U.N. General Assembly is saying. And there you have a complete consensus, apart from the United States and Israel and some South Sea islands. Apart from them, the consensus is clear. It’s a two-state settlement on the June 1967 border and a just resolution of the refugee question based on the right of return and compensation. That’s the limit of opinion."
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Netanyahu
by jmyt17 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 06:46 PM PDTHow sad we all can be and hurt each other without thinking.
To Reality Bites
by Mohammad Alireza on Thu Jun 14, 2012 08:13 AM PDTDouble post
we did that long time ago some 250 years ago
by مآمور on Thu Jun 14, 2012 07:52 AM PDTIran has no hostile intentions towards and would never use military
force against any country, including Israel (except if/when attacked
first),
The sole problem rests with Israel. Israel will not survive without going from one war to another, without all-time crisis, without prosecuting and engaging in terrorist acts against others
I wear an Omega watch
To Reality Bites
by Mohammad Alireza on Thu Jun 14, 2012 07:52 AM PDTIf I was to respond to your last comment properly I'd have to write a couple of thousand words so I'll try to keep it as brief as possible.
First of all I have no intention of defending the regime in Iran as it has many many faults, as does the regime in Israel, and the one in Washington D.C.
I don't know how old you are or what level of education you have but you obviously have a strong command of the English language so my response to your last comment is that you should broaden your "bigger picture".
If you go to this link to my last post for "Iran News: Condensed and Highlighted" you will find a list of Web sites.
//iranian.com/main/blog/mohammad-alireza/...
I don't know if you go to these sites or read the articles posted on them but I'd strongly encourage you to do so.
No, I'm not trying to convert you to leftism or whatever you want to call people that write about the situation in the world in great depth and explain it in a way that the corporate controlled media would never do, but do it as an exercise to stretch your "bigger picture".
For example, you list Chavez as one of the extremists or crackpots. Well, if you read the corporate media he certainly does come across as a crackpot and until just recently I also thought he was bit of a clown. Then I recently watched "The War on Democracy" by John Pilger and my eyes opened. You should watch this film and it's possible to do online for free.
The content of this documentary is so powerful and packed with so much information about what really has been taking place that it simply can't be dismissed as propaganda or whatever else you want to call it. Here is the link:
//www.johnpilger.com/videos/the-war-on-democr...
The reason I bring this up is because in actual fact the real bigger picture is the American Empire, a country that spends twice the size of the Iranian annual budget on its military! Five hundred billion dollars vs one trillion dollars.
And the primary reason Iran is being targeted is because it is independent of the tentacles of the American Empire. And of course it has a great deal of oil and gas and sits very close to 65% of the world's reserve of oil and gas.
Given that America has 5% of the world's population but uses 25% of the world's oil it has to spend so much on its military and plant 800 military bases around the world so as to protect this lopsided situation.
As for specific responses to your comment:
Iran is only in the line of fire of America and Israel; the overwhelming majority of the countries of the world support Iran's right to enrich uranium.
As far as being in dire straights socially I'd argue Iranian society is far healthier than America's. Look at the obesity in America! The number of homeless! The cancer rate! The murder rate! The largest percentage of the population locked up in its prisons than any other nation! The list of statistics and facts showing America falling apart is a very long one so I'll stop here.
I don't know what "civilized" world you are referring to. The one that incinerated two defenseless cities in Japan with nuclear weapons? The one that killed three million Vietnamese and drenched half the country in Agent Orange, which is still causing deformities? The one that used over 300 tons of depleted uranium in its weaponry in Iraq, which is causing leukemia rates in Iraqi children of 300% above normal?
And these so called "civilized" countries are the same ones that secretly shipped chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein, which he used in his missiles that were aimed directly into Iranian cities.
Today Iran has 100,000 living chemical weapons victims; chemical weapons that were sent by European nations and given export clearance by the U.S. State Department.
And let's not forget the drone strikes killing families attending weddings and funerals and which are being personally green lighted by Obama.
As far as Israel being part of the "civilized" world of which you are referring to I'll leave it to a Holocaust survivor to argue that case, Norman Finkelstien. The links are provided in the blog post above.
Regarding your assertion that Iran could end the threat of war by ending its threat against other countries: I assume you are referring to the Ahmadinejad speech where he repeated Khomieni's line about the regime in Israel disappearing from the pages of time. If you are then I won't bother to respond to this as many others have and done an excellent job of refuting it as being a threat.
Previously we reached an agreement that we both don't support Iran's military and financial support of Hamas and Hezbollah.
Yes, the regime in Iran is a clerical-military dictatorship and over the past decades has been demonized in the world's eyes but from the inside it’s a totally different place than from the outside.
When I first came back after a couple of decades in America my head was full of the negativity that most everybody has about Iran but after living and working here these past eleven years my views are more balanced.
Try to imagine an America where the fundamental evangelical Bible thumpers controlled the Congress, all the television and radio stations, the educational system, the courts, the police, the military, the banks, and 80% of the economy. And the White House had almost absolute control of all of the above. It would be a suffocating place to live and hundreds and thousands of the young would try to leave, as they are doing in Iran; 200,000 a year.
Now, consider that these Bible thumpers had greatly reduced the inequality between the haves and have-nots to the point that dire poverty did not exist. Only a few hundred slept in the streets as apposed to hundreds of thousands. Medical care was affordable and widely available, even free for those in need. Education was affordable and available for all, with 60% of university students being women.
What else has Iran going for it? It has become industrialized on its own to the point it is building tractors, cars, tanks, dams, missiles, rockets, machine tools, medical equipment, and most of its own oil and gas equipment. It is building submarines, oil tankers, and destroyers. It's even building helicopters and jets.
And life from the outside may seem dark and ugly but the family in Iran is intact. People actually care about each other here and even help each other. Twenty five percent of Americans live alone!
The young here may grumble but they can watch the latest Hollywood movies for a dollar per DVD, listen to any music they want for free, go to a gamenet and play the latest video game or buy the latest release for a dollar, and if they want to party they do and they are far better than ones I remember in the States.
And if they want to smoke some weed they can, or get themselves messed up on meth they can, and unfortunately many are. Meth has become a major problem. Seven years ago one of our workers overdosed on heroin. Just this past month I had to deal with two relatives of my employees who are addicted to meth. One employee has been off opium for the past two years and has got his life back but these meth addicts are a major problem. Iran did not have a meth problem until America invaded Iraq and my suspicion is that gang members that were recruited into the American military helped spread this, or maybe it was a deliberate program of introducing meth into Iran. It's something a good investigative journalist should look into because meth has become a major problem in Iran and it's going to get much worse.
I'm rambling and getting off the subject but it's very hard to see the real Iran given the demonization that has taken place over the past decades. And this demonization is not an accident as it is an orchestrated program to prepare public opinion for when war can be green lighted.
Those controlling the American Empire know that before they attack another country they must first get public opinion to support such an attack.
It does not matter if it is justified or not. Manufacturing consent is part of the war making process. And that's what has been happening since 9-11.
Iran has been made into a target and regrettably some Iranian-Americans have been fooled to go along with this sinister plan and they are oblivious to how they have been manipulated to the point that they voice support the bombing of their own country. And Iranian.com seems to have commentators that are either ignorant, or agents of the warmongers, or are simply too lazy to get informed and believe what they see on Fox News or the rest of corporate media.
When I say Iranians will bring change themselves it's because I see everyday how this regime is simply unable to cope. Corruption has become rampant and now reaches all levels of the government. There is an epidemic of incompetence that runs throughout all government offices. People have lost faith in the justice system as "party baazi" is now blatant.
When three million ordinary Iranians went into the streets of Tehran the end of this regime was announced and now it is a matter of time before it crumbles. Hopefully Iranians will succeed in bringing about change peacefully and without bloodshed, and I am optimistic that they will.
But what will screw this all up? A military attack by Israel or America. Instantly the regime will be revived and strengthened. So the road to change in Iran is through peace, not war.
So, you want us to believe
by Anonymous Observer on Thu Jun 14, 2012 07:45 AM PDTthat you're an anti-IR blogger / writer who lives in Iran and posts articles for Jeursalem Post?!!!! Really?!!!
Dude, if that was the case, the IR would have found and dragged you out of whatever hole you were hiding in, and you would have joined this hapless guy in Evin:
//iranian.com/main/2012/jun/hossein-ronaghi-maleki-prisoner-day
Look, you're not fooling anyone here. The IR has one of the most sophisticated intelligence, counter-intelligence and propaganda operations that has ever existed on this planet. They spend billions of dollars each year on such efforts. IR operatives come in all shapes and forms. From "arbadeh kesh" street thugs to Lebanese Hezbollah assassins to West residing, fluent English speaking fashion models like Hooman Majd, to pony tail wearing "researchers," to college professors, to peace activists, and yes, to bloggers and pundits who pretend to be anti-IR, but for "peace and justice."
Like Khers said, go tell it to someone who doesn't know your ilk.
MA
by Reality-Bites on Thu Jun 14, 2012 04:42 AM PDTNetenyahu is a bully and an obvious war monger. Criticizing him is perfectly legitimate. And sure the US always follows its own self-interest (why shouldn't it?) and doesn't really care about the plight of the people in Iran.
But you are missing the bigger picture and the more critical issue. The main reason why Iran is in such dire straights, politically, economically, socially as well as potentially being in the line of fire, is the naked and unrelenting hostility of the Islamic Republic over the past 33 years, towards pretty much most of the "civilized" world.
IR with its constantly aggressive rhetoric and actions has turned Iran into a pariah and extremist state. Save for the likes of Assad, Chavez, Kim Jung whatever and one or two other crackpots, no one else has any time for Iran.
The IR could end the military threat against Iran tomorrow if the "Rahbar" would clearly and publicly announce to the world that Iran has no hostile intentions towards and would never use military force against any country, including Israel (except if/when attacked first), and would stop arming, funding and supporting extremist groups all over the Middle East and would open up its nuke facilities for full and unhindered access to the IAEA.
But you know and I know that "Rahbar" is never going to do that, because he is not interested in pulling Iran out of danger. The Islamic Republic thrives on continuously making and having external enemies (real or imagined). This has been case for 33 years and it's not going to change tomorrow.
THAT is the issue you (and indeed all of us) should be addressing instead of going on about Israel this and Israel that.
Sherlock Holms
by Dr. Mohandes on Thu Jun 14, 2012 01:17 AM PDTPahlavi who?
What? are you talking to me? What?
To Dr. Mohandes
by Mohammad Alireza on Wed Jun 13, 2012 08:32 PM PDTBelow are your own words:
"Now you can breathe easier. wow. you have found one confessed bomb iran advocate...Mission accomplished."
In reference to Pahlavi Jr.:"But now that you insist upon it, and putting my feet to the fire for it Yup. I am for him."
"please keep in mind and don't forger to give a fair look at the objective of those who have advocated for a targetted and precision-oriented attacks on certain key and strategic facilities." Which implies you are in support of American military intervention.
By the way Pahlavi Jr. has announced that he is not in support of a military attack on Iran.
Mommhad Aka James Bond
by Dr. Mohandes on Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:16 AM PDTLOL
Are you mental or something?
That was never my option you crazy man. I never said bomb Iran they way you imagined it.
Yeah Mammad joon. Every one who happens to disagree with you defintely belongs to the sociopath category Right? Just like they are necessarily supporting a King, want a dictator and all the rest of your accusations.
You and your crazy fellow "majority" LOL. enjoy eating from the toobreh of the iri.
To Dr. Mohandes
by Mohammad Alireza on Wed Jun 13, 2012 08:56 AM PDTGetting a little flustered it seems doctor.
Your rant left out the demented option that even frothing at the mouth warmongers have taken off the table, and which you have already confessed to:
Bomb Iran.
And that places you within the 3% of the Iranian expat community according to a recent poll -- and maybe inside the sociopath category.
Mohammad Alireza
by Dr. Mohandes on Wed Jun 13, 2012 08:19 AM PDTNa nagerefram, Granted that talking to you is worst than banging one's head against the wall.
1- What is this will of the IRANIAN People you are referring to? How do you know for sure that is they all want? If there is a will, that means you lied before claiming that Oh...people don't know what they want. they don't know what democracy and rule of law is and the rest of redundant stuff.
2- I sound like one of them??? really? wow. I did not know you could read minds and hear the tone of voices. Are you a psycho then? But now that you insist upon it, and putting my feet to the fire for it Yup. I am for him. Anyone but these mofos. Hala khyalet rahat tar shod?
3- I know. I know they need tools. But you mr. genius. WHO is supposed to give these tools to them and how? How many times are u gonna repeat what the damn problem is without offering any solutions!! we all know they need tools. Duuuuuh!! External sources are in a position to provide them with the secure means of communications. They can also manuver around any sort of hurdle or block iri could and does impose.
4- Nabeghe joon. Who do you think guards them borders and watches what goes and comes across them like a freaking hawk? if you guessed irgc you guessed right. Yeah sure. Let's start the process. heck, why the F...not one for every iranian, why only 5 millions??
5- U are nothing but a dreamer. just exactly what people can do with all these technology? how will that bring about change? and what kind? particularly in a span of less than a year? Wow. Mamad joon. You sound like a dangerous guy. Can we call you Mohammad bond?
6- You still do not get it. That i was not even remotely suggesting installing a dictator. Your problem, which is a very deeply inherent and incurable one, is that you have a tendency to lable those who even slightly disagree with you... as in : U the dictator lover...U israeli....U jewish zionist US empire loving...
Sure. I pray that u will get your laptops smuggled into iran, and that people will be able to utilize the technology the way u are suggesting (LOL). In the meantime, stick that idea of your into a pizza oven with plenty of hot sauce on top and halesho bebar.
Your demented and conspiratorial mind is what creates the "they want another shah" crap. Not the people.
Oftad?
Mohammad Alireza
by Dr. Mohandes on Wed Jun 13, 2012 08:17 AM PDTNa nagerefram, Granted that talking to you is worst than banging one's head against the wall.
1- What is this will of the IRANIAN People you are referring to? How do you know for sure that is they all want? If there is a will, that means you lied before claiming that Oh...people don't know what they want. they don't know what democracy and rule of law is and the rest of redundant stuff.
2- I sound like one of them??? really? wow. I did not know you could read minds and hear the tone of voices. Are you a psycho then? But now that you insist upon it, and putting my feet to the fire for it Yup. I am for him. Anyone but these mofos. Hala khyalet rahat tar shod?
3- I know. I know they need tools. But you mr. genius. WHO is supposed to give these tools to them and how? How many times are u gonna repeat what the damn problem is without offering any solutions!! we all know they need tools. Duuuuuh!! External sources are in a position to provide them with the secure means of communications. They can also manuver around any sort of hurdle or block iri could and does impose.
4- Nabeghe joon. Who do you think guards them borders and watches what goes and comes across them like a freaking hawk? if you guessed irgc you guessed right. Yeah sure. Let's start the process. heck, why the F...not one for every iranian, why only 5 millions??
5- U are nothing but a dreamer. just exactly what people can do with all these technology? how will that bring about change? and what kind? particularly in a span of less than a year? Wow. Mamad joon. You sound like a dangerous guy. Can we call you Mohammad bond?
6- You still do not get it. That i was not even remotely suggesting installing a dictator. Your problem, which is a very deeply inherent and incurable one, is that you have a tendency to lable those who even slightly disagree with you... as in : U the dictator lover...U israeli....U jewish zionist US empire loving...
Sure. I pray that u will get your laptops smuggled into iran, and that people will be able to utilize the technology the way u are suggesting (LOL). In the meantime, stick that idea of your into a pizza oven with plenty of hot sauce on top and halesho bebar.
Your demented and conspiratorial mind is what creates the "they want another shah" crap. Not the people.
Oftad?
To Dr. Mohandes
by Mohammad Alireza on Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:51 AM PDTAs opposed to ignoring the will of the Iranian people and depending on the military forces of the American Empire to bring about change through bombings that will cause radioactive contamination of millions living downwind.
And we are to believe this will bring about a better society for the Iranian people? Yeah, right.
You sound like one of those fossilized monarchists who hanker for the good old days and have the delusion that a chap without one hour of work experience will somehow climb back onto the Peacock Throne and save Iran from the evil mullahs.
As far as coming up with a constructive plan for change I think what is required is to somehow give the essential tools that Iranians need so as to bring about change themselves.
The most important tool would be the ability to communicate securely.
This means being able to access all features of the Internet directly and not being forced to go through the connections that the regime has established.
There exists laptops with a small dish that allows both uplink and downlink connections; but not in Iran. Smuggling five million of these into Iran would be far more constructive than dropping bombs.
Or even more effective would be to come up with a small gizmo that would fit onto existing satellite dishes that millions of Iranians own which would allow secure uplink and downlink connections at broadband speeds.
A satellite could be perched above Iran to provide the Internet service for free. If this technology existed in Iran then I am certain change in Iran would take place within less than a year.
But the point is the American Empire does not want this.
They don't want to give the Iranian people the necessary tools for self-determination.
They want what you are suggestion; installation of a dictator that will make sure to advance American's national security interests.
They want another Shah. Gerefti?
Never going to happen
by Dr. Mohandes on Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:52 PM PDTSo sad to see that there are still people who tend to put the emphasis and hang their hopes on the will of iranian people to make something happen specially in an totally unspecified timeframe and deadline yet devote all their energy to address the changing "dynamics" as a result of the assertions of another mad man on the other side of the region.
Looking for something to waste your energy on? you have come to the right place and have found just the right issue LOL.
must be too late in london. you're mixing up your ingilishi :)
by mousa67 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 09:15 PM PDTremember, "this" user ID" is the "dumb cyber bassij". the "other user ID" is "clever"(LOL). i know, must be confusing having so many user id's. LOL
so are you going on a cruise ship with mamali joon to gaza strip to "defeat the zionsism"? make sure to take the pink gun & the barbie doll, and picture of the queen.
now, dont flag me you naughty girl.:)
LOL
dont copy off my hand
by مآمور on Tue Jun 12, 2012 08:33 PM PDT'toy gun' and color 'pink' are what I said here first!! come up with your own stuff, find your own country!! dont steal!!
Now behave yourself!! u would have my comments deleted too!!
I wear an Omega watch
To Reality Bites
by Mohammad Alireza on Tue Jun 12, 2012 05:51 PM PDTI totally agree with all the points you have raised in your last comment.
Below you will find my views on the Iran-Israel issue, which is a copy of an article that was originally posted on the Jerusalem Post site back in 2007.
//iranian.com/main/2012/jan/iranians-and-...
However, given Natanyahu's repeated threats to bomb Iranian nuclear sites the dynamics have changed and I think exposing Israeli behavior is important.
But you already puked
by Anonymous Observer on Tue Jun 12, 2012 02:28 PM PDTIsn't this "blog" a case of vomiting up IR's propaganda and diversion tactics in and of itself?
*****
Hello DM jaan -
Thanks my friend. Honestly, I've been too busy. I'll try to throw something together when I get a chance.
MA
by Reality-Bites on Tue Jun 12, 2012 01:29 PM PDTYou make too many assumptions about people. You don't know me, and you have no idea if I'm too lazy to investigate anything. So kindly desist from making yourself even more clueless than you already appear to be.
I know enough about US and Israel to have a pretty idea about those countries and how their governments operate. There are things I like and dislike about both. For example I totally abhor Israel's disgraceful colonization and ethnic cleansing of Palestinian lands, its disregard for UN resolution and international law and America's shameful and unquestioning support for Israeli's government's foreign policies.
However, the Israeli/Palestinian issue is none of Iran's business. It is for the international community to keep working to one day find a solution to this conflict. And if a solution never comes, so what? There are many other people/nations in as much misery as the Palestinians, e.g. the Tibetans at the hands of China, the Darfurians persecuted by the Sudanese, the Chechens by Russia, the people of Western Sahara by Morocco etc etc. I don't see the Islamic Republic (China and Russia's friend remember) beating its chest for all those other people, like it does for the Palestinians. The same goes for people like you.
As it's been mentioned before, the Palestinians don't even like Iran. They were cheering for Saddam when his military was bombing Iran. What the hell has the Israel/Palestinian conflict got to do with us Iranians, for crying out loud, especially when our own country is going down the toilet? I find this whole thing unbelievable, the IR shits on the Iranian people, while shedding tears for the Palestinians, and people like you join them in this ridiculous charade!
At least Israelis treat their own people decently. I'll bet many Iranians wished they were either Shia Lebanese or Palestinian, because that way they would receive better treatment by their own regime than they do now.
Anyway, to answer your question, and to reiterate my point that making assumptions about people you don't know is not a good idea, I'm totally against any military attack on Iran. What's more, I'm also against economic sanctions against Iran.
Why? Because of two reasons. First, in any attack on Iran it is likely that many innocent people will be killed. Likewise, under harsh economic sanctions it is the poor ordinary Iranians who are starting to suffer, not the fat thieving mullahs. Second, if war should breakout and innocent blood is spilt, it is likely to make people (even many in the majority that detests the IR) to rally around the regime and give it support. And that is the last thing I'd want to see.
Iranian people are already suffering enough at the hands of this regime, they don't need to more suffering. So, as much as I hate the IR and want to see it toppled, war and sanctions are not the answer. It is for the people of Iran to get rid of this regime one day.
Is that clear enough for you?
mohammad joon: why dont you come liberate palistinians?
by mousa67 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 08:41 AM PDTinsted of all these "long intestine" stuff?
since no flotillas are going israel way anymore, you can go on a cruise ship! on your way pick up mamooreh joon also from london. "he" has been trying to wipe me off iranian.com for about three months now. but remember that "he' gets see sick, needs fish & chips & pint of beer everyday. plus her bed sheets on the ship & her toy gun must both be pink.
LOL
mamooreh joon, honey, your written farsi is improving
by mousa67 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 08:26 AM PDTlet's see how your oral farsi is like. LOL
now go hold mamaly joon's hands whilst he is puking. LOL
Excuse me...
by Mohammad Alireza on Tue Jun 12, 2012 08:20 AM PDT...while I go and puke.
What a sad example of human beings you lot are.
Ma
by Dr. Mohandes on Tue Jun 12, 2012 08:15 AM PDTHala khyalet rahat shod?
Now you can breathe easier. wow. you have found one confessed bomb iran advocate...Mission accomplished.
lucky for you i don't have much time to read, otherwise...
AO jan
Good diagnosis as always. Been missing you man. Where have you been? need some sense , of the common kind, injected here into some people's minds, ASAP dude:))
in broken Farsi
by مآمور on Tue Jun 12, 2012 08:12 AM PDTاسرائیل باید از صفحه روزگار محو شود
امام خمینی
I wear an Omega watch
We should assume that Khomeini was Jewish too then
by Anonymous Observer on Tue Jun 12, 2012 07:58 AM PDTSince his last name was "Mousavi," i.e., related to Moses. Your quote below:
I am assuming you are Jewish given that you are using the name "mousa".
How about "Imam" Mousa Kazem, was he Jewish too?!!!
that right there shows that you're a paranoid, garden variety Jew-on-the-mind, 'I drank the IR Kool-Aid 33 years ago' nit wit. That, and your blog photo, which shows your obsession.
To Dr. Mohandes
by Mohammad Alireza on Tue Jun 12, 2012 07:57 AM PDTWell, at least you have come out in the open and declared that you are one of the bomb Iran advocates.
Then I suggest you read "Nuking Iran" which I wrote a few weeks ago. It concerns this so called "solution" through precision bombing.
//iranian.com/main/blog/mohammad-alireza/...
And here is another addressing the same issue.
//iranian.com/main/news/2012/03/02/conseq...
Anybody that is advocating bombing Iran and has Dr. in front of their name should add Mengele to their middle name.
Mohammad
by Dr. Mohandes on Tue Jun 12, 2012 07:28 AM PDTThen what IS THE SOLUTION?
I am sorry to be butting into the dicussion between you and Reality-bites but you seem to be constantly swaying in various directions.
You seem to know deep in your heart what the truth is, namely lack of effective and operational devices and methods through which people in iran can get together and bring about the change, Yet you refuse to accept any alternative sources who is willing to provide these tools. SO what are we supposed to do now? wait endlessly until by some miracle they are dropped on our laps by the gods up in the sky? who is going to take care of this huge issue if we refuse outside help?
Do you even think through or at least re-read your responses?
I applaud iranian americans who are for making something happen in the most decisive manner and are more than happy to put their money where they mouth is. Much better than the let's wait and see approach you seem to have adopted.
Making peace with this government is tantamount to longer years and perhaps decades of more suffering and more crap shoved down our throats. More misery in every way that you could think of.
You are being totally rediculous thinking that a group of israeli supporters really have implemented a great amount of influence in here. You just don't know the half of it.
Besides, next time you decide to dish some dirt on these hijackers, please keep in mind and don't forger to give a fair look at the objective of those who have advocated for a targetted and precision-oriented attacks on certain key and strategic facilities.
It is funny that this fact always, always, escapes the minds of you iran-interest lovers' mind. ALWAYS.
To Reality Bites
by Mohammad Alireza on Tue Jun 12, 2012 06:47 AM PDTIf you are equating Trita Parsi and I then that is a complement in my book as I think he has got it right.
As far as not indulging in "foosh daadand be hookomat" there are millions of others doing it so there is little point in joining in.
Times that I have spoken out against the regime and used extremely harsh words I've done so through a different channel.
But if you want to label me a hypocrite that's your right of free expression.
What you don't get however is what my primary objective is; to stop the war that has been on the horizon since 1979 but is now at our doorstep.
The Iranian people are innocent bystandards and it is simply wrong for them to suffer because of the behavior and stupidity of this regime. And what makes it even worse is that they have no tools to create change in Iran.
The most essential tools the Iranian people need do not exist: being able to communicate with each other without being spied on; the ability to meet and talk without fear; the ability to organize; the ability to freely gather and protest peacefully; these are the very vital tools we need in order to create change here but we don't have them. That's what is extremely frustrating and makes this whole situation so tragic. The Iranian people have zero control over this regime.
But you Iranian-Americans sit in the comfort of your freedoms and calls us regime supporters simply because we don't want to be bombed...... I am at a loss for words.
You are too lazy to investigate the true nature of the American Empire and have been fooled into assuming America wants to bring to Iran freedom, democracy, and the rule of law.....by way of bombing us...and you approve of this!
Most recently all sides seem to have reached the conclusion that using military force is not an option given the very high unforeseen costs. This is good. Next comes talking. And unfortunately those sitting around Iran's side of the table are agents of the regime. But at least war is taken off the table. So, then how does one make peace? That's the hard part. But it can be done.
Unfortunately Iranian.com has been hijacked by a small group of bomb Iran advocates who clearly are Israeli supporters.
This blog post was to bring this out in the open. A couple dared to show themselves but many have not. But they are lurking on this site and they have one central objective and that is to have bombs drop on Iran.
So my question to you is: Are you one of them?
Nice going there MA
by Dr. Mohandes on Tue Jun 12, 2012 06:30 AM PDTEh? just like that? You need to earn it brother. Work for it.
I, or rather we, have already seen your plan. Good job:)))
you're welcome by the way.
Alireza, just to address your response to my question
by Reality-Bites on Tue Jun 12, 2012 05:56 AM PDTTwo of your links in which you are critical of the mullahs are from 2008 & 2009. I'm guessing that was the period of the bogus election of" President" AN, when the brutality if IR was at its peak. This is when even some IR supporters (for a little while anyway) were critical of the regime's savagery. So, I wasn't going to search through all your posts, back to 3/4 years just to find one or two when you expressed your unhappiness with the mullahs.
Your more recent article from 2011 is more of an observation on Iranian mentality than a critique of the regime.
Regardless of all that, I won't call you an IR supporter. But I WILL call you a hypocrite! You continuously moan at people here and castigate them for calling you an IR supporter, and yet apparently it's perfectly fine for you to label them "Netanyahu foot soldiers"! A case of the pot and the kettle, if I ever saw one
More importantly, all your recent contributions here, much like those of the NIAC President (for life?) Trita Parsi are all about how the on-going problems between the Islamic Republic and the US (and Israel) is all the fault of the US and Israel. No mention of IR's "marg bar America" and "marg bar Israel" stance for over 30 years. No mention of the funding, arming and supporting of the Hamas, Lebanese Hezbollah and the Iraqi Mahdi Army to cause havoc in the region. No mention of how often the IR leaders have called for the destruction of Israel and forcible taking of "Quds" for the Muslims they give millions of Iranian people's money to. No mention of how many acts of terror behind which the bloody hands of the IR is at work.
The likes of you and Parsi make it sound like the IR had no problems with US and Israel at all and only wanted peaceful relations with them, but suddenly one day, out of nowhere and for no reason at all, nasty old US and Israel became hostile towards the peace loving, benevolent and humanitarian mullahs.
The plain fact why Iran has now become a potential target of attack, i.e. due to the unrelenting hostility of the Islamic Republic to the US, the West, Israel etc from the very beginning of its nightmare rule, seems to have escaped you, whether deliberately or not.
You might not be an IR supporter, but for all intents and purposes you might as well be one, because as far as I can see you sing the same exact tune.