War with Iran in Numbers

Mohammad Alireza
by Mohammad Alireza
15-Dec-2011
 

Those that are in favor of war with Iran or those beating the drums of war should look at these numbers. For Iran they should most likely be multiplied by 2 given that Iran's population is twice Iraq's.

Population of Iraq: 30 million.

Number of Iraqis killed in attacks in November 2011: 187

Average monthly civilian deaths in Afghanistan War, first half of 2011: 243

Percentage of Iraqis who lived in slum conditions in 2000: 17

Percentage of Iraqis who live in slum conditions in 2011: 50

Number of the 30 million Iraqis living below the poverty line: 7 million.

Number of Iraqis who died of violence 2003-2011: 150,000 to 400,000.

Orphans in Iraq: 4.5 million.

Orphans living in the streets: 600,000.

Number of women, mainly widows, who are primary breadwinners in family: 2 million.

Iraqi refugees displaced by the American war to Syria: 1 million

Internally displaced [pdf] persons in Iraq: 1.3 million

Proportion of displaced persons who have returned home since 2008: 1/8

Rank of Iraq on Corruption Index among 182 countries: 175

If you want the source for these figures you will find them on www.juancole.com

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bushtheliberator

number of Iraqis living under dictatorship= 0......Iranians 70M

by bushtheliberator on Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:47 PM PST

  Iraqis have maintained their territorial integrity, and suffered about one-half of one per cent dead ....but here's no reason to assume that Iran would be nearly so fortunate.


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AMIR1973

Islamist terrorist regime in numbers

by AMIR1973 on Thu Dec 15, 2011 08:21 PM PST

- Rank among countries in infant mortality: 115th or 155th (depending on the source)   - Rank among countries in life expectancy: 103rd, 108th or 132nd   - Number of executions annually worldwide: Number 2   - Number of executions annually per capita: Number 1      

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Roozbeh_Gilani

mohamad alireza: be careful with your sources.

by Roozbeh_Gilani on Thu Dec 15, 2011 04:17 AM PST

Mr. Juan cole, the respected US academic, the man on his data  you have  based your blog, is well known for his solid support of Lybian uprising and Nato led military intervention on behalf of Lybian Revolutionaris, which led to final downfall of Gaddafi and his utterly humiliating killing by Lybians.

Should we then conclude that in your opinion Lybia model is good and Iraq model was bad, or something else?

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


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hirre

Numbers again...

by hirre on Thu Dec 15, 2011 05:58 AM PST

I don't beat the war drums, but you have to put every number in perspective...

For example:

Over 38 000 people die each year in Iran.... In road accidents....

Over 200 people are executed in Iran every year (at least)...

Continue with the numbers for drugs use, trafficking, corruption etc and you will easily get the impression that Iran suffers from a war, which is not the case... Bad government is just as bad, if not more bad, because wars usually end earlier than bad governments... 

Let's not be so quick to judge Iraq, come back in 20-30 years and then judge Iraq (compared to if someone like Saddam would continue to rule for that long). For comparison, see Turkey (although they have not had a war) 30 years ago and now...

These countries who are democratic now have shed blood, 60 million people died in WW2, more than 5,5 million i great germany alone, 2,2 M in Japan, ~1M UK/US and so on... That's the price they payed for a better future and now we argue about future hypothetical number of deaths in one country!?


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