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Baha'i Faith: The Sinking Titanic
04-Oct-2012
Bahai Faith – the harbinger of a United World, Unity of Mankind and New World Order is presently suffering from the same ailments that it was supposed to remove. Differences are galore and individual ambition to rise in administration hierarchy is apparent. Much as the Universal House of Justice (UHJ), the central governing body of the Bahais at Haifa, Israel, would try to cover this weakness, the internet (and not the Bahai Faith) has made the world smaller and informative. As the happenings in the Faith spread through internet (blogs, facebook, emails and web-sites), the reality of the present status of Faith stands exposed.
An analysis of the information available reveals following fronts where the Bahai Faith (read Bahai Administration) stands with its hand in shame :
1. Bahai Administration – Indeed the functioning of all Administrative bodies, headed by the UHJ, have become a centre for nepotism and mal-practices. Elections are controlled and manipulated. The present axis of evil at the UHJ is Farzam-Faredon-Payman, all with Persian background and LOYALTY. Indeed the control is so strict that any sign of difference in opinion is crushed with negative publicity of the individual daring to express his opinion. Shameless propagation is apparent before key elections. Bahais who have lived with Bahai values and idealism towards the advise of the founding father, Bahaullah, are side lined as being irrelevant, non-progressive and negative. There is a virtual moral collapse due to this approach by administrative bodies. What more evidence is required about the spiritual status, when even the numbers related to devotions held, classes conducted and seekers induced into the Faith are manipulated and inflated!!!
2. Bahai Campaigns – The grossly inflated news about teaching campaigns have only 10% truth. Those few that venture for such campaigns are doing it more to justify their place in the Faith than with true devotion. More time is spent in story-telling, singing, dancing and partying than the spread of the Faith. At the end of the session, the contact(s) get an impression that the Faith is more like an NGO or a Social Club than a Faith with a serious message. Also contributing to this failure is lack of knowledge of those who set out for such campaigns. They are so distant from knowledge of History and the Faith principles that they mumble their own interpretations. On occasions, the message conveyed by different Faith members contradict, making the campaigns look mocking. All these campaigns are announced in publications, as grand success, just for the sake of competing with a neighbouring assembly and to satisfy individual egos.
3. Motivation of Local Assembly Members – The Local Spiritual Assemblies (supposed to be the key link in the administrative system linking individuals belonging to a local community with the central UHJ, are occupied by such members who cannot meet regularly even once in two weeks. The priorities are their professions, their families and their excursions. The average attendance of LSA members in meetings of LSA is 50%. The efficiency of the system in plain terms is reduced thus by 50% (100% attendance is seen when certain dignitary happens to come on inspection visit!!!). The effectiveness of the remaining 50% can be gauged when one sees that most members present come late. The LSA meetings start atleast 45 minutes after schedule, but ends on time in another 45 minutes. The meetings include lavish snacks and gossiping of members of community as hidden agenda and balance time for the official agenda.
4. Independent Investigation of the Truth and the Internet - A principle which underlies all campaigns stops after a seeker has entered the Faith. Now he has to digest only what is fed. Thanks to the internet, such Investigators of Truth, can access to several nagging questions like – Was the faith left sans guardian (without a Guardian) by the founding fathers? Is it true that the Bahai Faith does not have sects? What is the ideology of other sects? If the Faith has come to remove differences, why is there a ban on interaction with other sects of the Faith? If the Faith encourages upliftment of women, why are they denied position in the UHJ? Indeed with a click of a button, several embarrassing truths emerge. The Faith and its administration have failed to curb the impact of internet on minds of the Faith members.
5. Failure in Court Cases – Attempts made at censuring different schools of thought and sects have miserably failed. With each court verdict, not only is the Faith retreating several steps but also facing an embarrassing exodus of Faith members. One doubts the wisdom of the administrators in challenging differences of opinion, use of “Bahai” word by other sects and Guardians of other Bahai sects, when the founding fathers had always preached tolerance and restraint. In today’s democratic society, filing such cases appear primitive. It makes one wonder, if the Bahai Faith is really a religion of the new era?
6. Conduct of Bahais – The morality and conduct of not several but most of the Bahais, some of them include important personalities and Councellors, leaves a lot to be desired. Some have been arrested on grounds of false travel papers and forged documents, some have been nabbed on espionage charges and others on flouting laws of the land.Most of the counselors have a divorced life. Eloping has become almost a law and not an exception. Faith. Extra-marital affairs are common (and for certain position-holding individuals legalized by the Faith), consuming alcohol has become a habit and is publicly displayed and divorce on the rise. One can imagine the rot when such behavior is gaining prominence in the small numbers that the Faith presently has.
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It is a shame that due to this the Faith has been banned in several countries. Their moral class teachers are arrested, Ruhi activity is look with suspicion and the Intellgence services of various countries have opened a special cell to monitor the activities of Faith.
7. Excommunication – The height of intolerance is ex-communication of those sincere Bahais who have stood-up to challenge the present situation. They are termed as traitors of the Cause and Breakers of Covenant. Their administrative rights are snatched and they are ex-communicated.Abusive languages for respected Bahais have become a common phenomenan in the letters of UHJ. Threat of being Excommunication is almost a routine affair of UHJ. So demoralizing is the situation that we find numbers in other sects of the Bahai Faith rising day by day while UHJ dominated Faith continues to dwindle in numbers.
The above are sure signs of downfall! The Bahai Faith will decrease in influence in next few years, and this is irreversible.
The Sinking of Titanic of Bahai Faith is immininet
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The Southern Poverty Law Center
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 03:36 PM PDTBelieves - and not just regarding Fred - that a whole host of discussions over many years, and especially the attacks on individuals (many of whom have now left or been blocked), may in fact constitute hate-speech and that contributors to this site may have in fact committed hate-crimes against certain individuals here. Lines have been crossed. One example is that where one contributor had his place of work contacted by one of the other contributors here.
That said, you have no evidence of anyone here, particularly myself, inciting violence against Salman Rushdie. Calling a novel he wrote 'crap' is not hate-speech or inciting violence. Having contributors allege defamatory things about other posters which are not true, such as what nosratmahallati has now done on multiple occasions here and others have done before him far worse, is another matter entirely. You, yourself, are also on record having crossed several lines.
The admin is welcome to block me. But this now is the enth public occassion where they have been put on notice about the egregious infringements to people's legal, civil and human rights occuring from this website on a regular basis with the admins nor webmasters/owners doing anything to rectify it.
Does the admin board think
by vildemose on Thu Oct 04, 2012 03:23 PM PDTDoes the admin board think hate-speech against bahai and inciting violence against pharmaceuticals, salman rushdi, etc.. are equivalent to Fred's blog and sometimes harsh criticism of Islam and poltical Islam??
All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir
Soosan Khanoom jaan
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 03:11 PM PDTAs you and I know quite well, talk is cheap. The people here talking the talk, do not walk the talk, which is why they presently have two organizations chasing after sites and groups perpetrating hate-speech and online hate-crimes after them investigating this place.
Cough it up...Reality-Bites
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 03:09 PM PDTYou ain't got nothing. And you know you ain't got diddly squat too.
BIA textbook strategies implimenting false innuendo and attack do not constitute evidence. But since you insist on playing that game, you have denied being a Baha'i here although many, many of us know you to be one, and not only a card-carrying member but also a taskforce member of the Baha'i Internet Agency specifically assigned to this site.
That aside, like I said to Onlyiran and Dr Mohandes, if you people did not control the levers of discourse on this site and censor people, manipulate and manage perceptions to your own benefit and those of your masters in Zionistan, you and I both know that single handedly I can wipe the floor with all of you ten times over - which I have. This also explains why you people are so psychotically paranoid looking over your shoulder believing every single critic is one of my aliases. That says it all! I haunt you people and have scared your whole multi-billion dollar organization senseless. So wipe that poo-poo grin off your face, mack. In the real world, without your being able to manipulate anything, I would eat you and all of your friends here as a pre-breakfast snack.
Exactly Sean-k.... Right on points
by Soosan Khanoom on Thu Oct 04, 2012 03:06 PM PDTThose people who keep nagging should instead just learn how to deal with this blogger or simply ignore him rather than run to Ayatoallah Admin like bunch of crying babies and seek his death Fatwa . ... Each time a poster shows up that does not suit them, they gang up on him till admin block the guy. And these are the ones who keep preaching about the freedom of speech , democracy , etc.
PF joon, don't fret fella
by Reality-Bites on Thu Oct 04, 2012 02:54 PM PDTIf you are so concerned about court standard evidence, you can always sue.
It doesn't exactly take a genius to figure it out. Your style of writing, your pompous pretentions of wannabe intellectualism, your spamming of the same drivel over and over.
The very fact that you spend so much time blowing your electronic load on IC (just look at the sheer number of comments you've posted since re-registring) in a desperate bid to ease your inner turmoil fuelled by your hatred of Bahais and receive validation from anyone who cares to comment, are all tell-tale signs.
What can I say? You're just too easy to spot.. like an unpleasant odour.
Clearly?!
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 02:46 PM PDTDo you have any evidence that would hold up in a court that I am MaryamJoon? Don't be so sure about your hand me down certainties from the BIA. They could come back and haunt you.
PS - Nima Hazini's real, legal name is Wahid Azal. And Wahid Azal never claimed to be a prophet. He claimed to be a Mirror. You can see for yourself in his published works that he has not used the term "prophet." Only the Baha'is have claimed this and the Baha'is have claimed many thing which are not true. But if people can believe the mythos around a complete charlatan of the 19th century whose ship is fast sinking, then Wahid Azal can claim whatever he wants as well in the 21st. Besides, Wahid Azal is far better looking than a man who looked like an Iranian version of Rasputin.
Nadeem Khan
by Reality-Bites on Thu Oct 04, 2012 02:35 PM PDTIf Bahais are sinking then why concern yourself so much about them? Let them sink and be on your merry way.
While PF is clearly Maryamjoon, Wahid/Nuri-Azal, Tabrazin, Freethought etc (real name Nima Hazini - who, I think, once declared himself a "prophet" no less), I don't believe Nadeem Khan is PF.
At least PF posts comments about other topics from time to time. Nadeem Khan's sole purpose on IC seems to be about posting comments on Bahais, whom he obviously resents intensely. What's more, I'm not sure if Nadeem Khan is even Iranian. Perhaps can enlighten us on this.
Regardless, cleary both gentlemen are obsessed by the Bahais whom they resent so vigorously.
RE: Why does the IC allow
by Sean-K on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:44 PM PDTبه همون دلیل که میزارن فرد اسرأیلی هر چی میخواد به ایرانیها بگه و یه
خروار دیگتون با هزارو یکی آی دی هر چی میخواین به مسلمونا بگین. اگه
خوبه واسه همه خوبه.
khan,joon, khanoom are on the real sinking ship
by Waders on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:43 PM PDTThe sinking/stinking ship of the schitzophrenic cult.
So glad you are not on this "sinking" ship :)
by faryarm on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:37 PM PDTSo glad you are not on this "sinking" ship :)
and thank you for your deep concern.
regards
faryar
Can you prove it, Azarbanoo?
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:29 PM PDTNot by hearsay from friends or acquintances, but by cold, hard verifiable scientific data.
On the contrary
by Azarbanoo on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:21 PM PDTI have heard a lot of IRANIANs are conveerting to Bahai faith. Just a news I have heard many times.
vildemose
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:22 PM PDTI am not Nadeem Khan nor am I MaryamJoon nor am I Soosan Khanoom, nor etc.... I am not like you reps of the Lobby here on I.com who use a dozen handles each to make it appear as if there is traffic on the site when day in, day out it is basically the same people posting under multiple user IDs managing perceptions.
I am Trita Parsi and Iraj Khan, didn't you know ;O)
Why does the IC allow
by vildemose on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:16 PM PDTWhy does the IC allow this to keep on going day after day? Now he is using another username; kadeem khan...This place must in desparate need of traffic.
All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir
Mehrban
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:11 PM PDTBoosss :o)
OI
by Truthseeker9 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:11 PM PDTI think in the link I posted about one of Maryamjoon's blogs identity of MJ was on it. That I think is why it was deleted. I didn't know at the time.
Au contraire, mon amie
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:09 PM PDTThe projection is all your own, would ye but know it ;o)
The allegations regarding your handle(s) appear to stand on their own merits, my dearest Pinocchio. Be that as it may, the site IranianFacebook.com is not operated by me.
I admit it.... Masters of/in schizophrenia
by Waders on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:06 PM PDTI do a lot of BIA BOROs to make a living and unlike some big bruzed egos most arent gettin nocked off course by a few schitzophrenics who eat and breethe mohoomat.
Wish i was sipping on some of that whachumakol it tea, collecting check down under. But hey some of us actually got a usefull education and can do real work to put food on the table.
Now the basiji brothers could use your services to put the bazaries in their place, dont belive me ask Haldol Khan.
No Wahid, I think you're projecting your own paranoia
by Onlyiran on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:02 PM PDTHere's let's do this via an example, which not only shows your paranoia, but also your pathological lying about not being the various user id's on IC.
In reponse to your hate blogs on IC under user id "MaryamJoon," I posted a blog entitled "A Note of Thanks to Our Baha'i Freinds." In response to that blog, you, on one of your own hate sites, posted this comment, IN RESPNSE to my blog directed at MaryamJoon (which you deny being):
wahidazal66
September 23, 2012 at 4:09 pmHere is a pathetic example of Haifan Baha’i dishonesty in action.
The so-called (lame) rebuttal to this missive was composed by the IC alias Onlyiran. Now look here:
Iranpress watch recasts IC article
//www.iranpresswatch.org/post/9148
Iranpress Watch is, of course, a hokey Haifan Baha’i outfit that is basically a two-man show. About Iranpresswatch
//www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Iran_Press_Watch
Adib Masumian’s account on IC
//iranian.com/main/blog/adibm
Ahang Rabbani’s account on IC
//iranian.com/main/member/ahang-rabbani-0
That leaves the identity of Onlyiran to be either a) Adib Masumian, b) Ahang Rabbani or e) one of a handful of individuals associated with Iranpress Watch; in other words, a card-carrying member of the Haifan Baha’i organization. Even when they lie with a straight face these people give themselves away. To wit,
So, first you accuse me of being a few people (i'm none of them) and then you say, under your own name, that you're posting the comment as a response to my blog directed at MaryamJoon's blog.
See, in Persian, we say "doroghgoo kam hafezeh ast". This premise even applies to pathological liars such as you.
Because it is a guessing game :)
by Mehrban on Thu Oct 04, 2012 01:12 PM PDTPF, I never thought you were Maryamjoon, nor did I believe Maryamjoon was Nur or Wahid. But I think there is a good possibility that PF is Nur and Wahid ;).
Because this is a guessing game
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:47 PM PDTWhich has become also a game of revolving chairs that btw you folks yourselves initiated, and given this it has moved from being lame to being a fun game to play.
I am not Nadeem Khan. Nor am I MaryamJoon (who has been blocked). But the _narrative_ insists that all critics of a certain organization based in Israel are the same person.
Like Pavlovian dogs, the response to any criticism of this organization on this site is exactly the same - i.e. shoot the messenger and then accuse them of being the same messenger which they thought they had shot before (but which keeps resurrecting in their minds over and over and over again through infinite aliases), and so the cycle goes on and on - and hence why I am here to oblige.
Admit it, without me this place and the whole of the paranoid universe you BIA folks inhabit wouldn't be half as interesting or fun! I make your game and your pay cheque every month ;0) Hopefully you have learned something in the process...
dissociated personalities make strange bed fellows
by Waders on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:42 PM PDTbut it is expected. Fear of titanic will drive the 2 into each others arms.
Mobarak agha
Wahid, if you're not "nadeem khan" why do you respond
by Onlyiran on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:41 PM PDTon "his" behalf?!!!
This is really getting old: you post a blog under one of your user id's and then respond and attack everyone under another. Example: MatyamJoon and Frashogar.
Yaaaawn...REALLY...Yaaaawn..
Get a life, a job, a partner, or something to get you off from behind a keyboard 24/7, with your various hate sites, hate blogs, etc.
And you are BIA
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:32 PM PDTNo matter what handle you come up with. The enemies of Iran are many: including a certain organization who has constructed the Hanging Gardens of Babylon in the most expensive prime real estate on the planet in an occupied country. Now if telling the truth is hateful, so be it! I am in good company :) You and your kind, on the other hand, are on the wrong side of history.
Schizophrenic forces!!!
by Waders on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:29 PM PDTthis blog is an example of what schitzophrenic parvary does to ones brain.
stock up on haldol, khanoom,joon,khan....
MaryamJoon
by religionoutofgovernment on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:25 PM PDTYou are hateful no matter what name you use. The sole enemy is Iran is the Rapist regime with its supporters including NIAC and MaryamJoon with all his other names!
Attack the messenger
by Peacock_Feather on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:10 PM PDTHoping the message will go down with him. It may work for a while, Ali Najafi, but not forever.
What are you talking about?
by Ali Najafi on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:08 PM PDTNadeem --
I typically don't read your pieces, because I find them highly inaccurate, biased, and hateful. I am open-minded and always seek other perspectives, especially those that differ from my own understandings. However, I have to say that your hatred for Baha'is has clouded your analysis regarding the religion.
One can always hold a magnifying glass to any religion and find imperfect people. However, this piece reminds me of all of the manipulative and hate-mongering propaganda that comes from the IRI and its agents.
Ali