Vasspaan

Hello Glenn, Please dont take seriously...

Please don't take Mr Nima Hazini AKA Wahid Azal, NUR AZAl etc etc. Seriously, as his hatred, and bitterness have consumed him and have driven him to become an obstinate anti Bahai devoted to his own ego ,opinions and a 24/7 online anti Bahai campaign.

Whatever, save your koombaya tunes!

First, I don't know you from Adam and I have never visited your blog. If a similar question has come up before, it is because this question remains unanswered and it is a crucial question needing to be answered. Iranians are autochthonous nationalists and the very soil of the motherland is considered sacred. Baha'is are globalist internationalists and so do not believe in this. As such Baha'is cannot by definition uphold any kind of loyalty towards Iranian nationalism, and so by ideological implication constitute a 5th column where the overall national interests of Iran are concerned. Period!

Second, based on your name, you are not an Iranian so you have no stake one way or another on this question. Kindly stick to your own noteworthy issues of national import wherever you may be and kindly keep away from ours. A century and a half of meddling by you Anglo-Europeans in our affairs with your condescending patronizings (when you people are generally more clueless than anyone else) is quite enough, thank you! Look at the mess and problems you people have generally created in the world with your incessant meddling: problems that have come back and bitten yourselves in the backside in the end.

As far as demagoguery goes: when there are thousands of political incarcerations and prisoners of conscience inside Iranian prisons as a result of last summer's post(s)election fiasco, to mobilize millions of dollars in PR and advertising over 7 individuals who are being treated relatively humanely, while you people say absolutely nothing about the real HR abuses happening right now under the IRI, is the paragon of demagoguery. And it is this sort of thing that sticks out like a sore thumb showing that you Haifan Baha'is don't give a damn about anyone else but yourselves, and it is here where Iranians at least should be weary of your agendas so when this accursed regime finally does fall we know who to treat with kid gloves and so not repeat the mistake of 31 years ago.

As far as the official Bahai website is considered, kindly go lump that site where the sun don't shine!

Ya NUR

Nur, I believe, visited my blog

Based upon my research, I believe "Nur" visited my blog, //glennfrancosimmons.blogspot.com/, which has as its title "One Planet, One People, Please!" in Persian and Esperanto, which I believe led to his post on Iranian.com.

While I, as a Bahá'í, believe in a united planet, please do not associate me with "globalization," which has so many different connotations as to render it useless to use in discourse unless it is defined.

While I do not believe the slogan came from the Bahá'í Writings, I, as a Bahá'í, believe in what "One Planet, One People, Please!" represents, demeaningly referred to as a "platitude" by Nur.

I believe, and stand to be corrected, that the slogan of "One Planet, One People, Please!" came into popular use in the early 1980s in America. I remember purchasing a bumper sticker with the slogan.

Its popularity was enhanced by Seals & Crofts' very popular song, "One Planet, One People, Please!", which was enjoyed by millions of people, not all of them Bahá'ís, by the way.

A humble patriotism is not nationalism, nor is a person not ascribing to the malignancy of any nationalistic creed unpatriotic. On the contrary, Nur. Look at what nationalism has brought to Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Stalin's Soviet Union, Mao's China. Death, destruction and mayhem.

Perhaps Nur would like to visit my next post, on another blog of mine, //dayspringsofglory.blogspot.com/, regarding nationalism, which should be finished by May 1 or 2.

Nur, thank you for visiting my blog, which I believe you did, based upon my trackbacks. I appreciate any hits I receive from Iran and elsewhere, but you and other readers should know that my blogs, as they state, do not speak for the Bahá'í International Community, for any other Bahá'í, etc., so please bear this in mind the next time you visit my blog.

Demagoguery, making use of popular prejudices and false claims, is something the world could sure use a lot less of.

We are all one family, Nur. We are all children of God. I hope that you can see the light of unity as it envelops humanity's blessed future, as promised in all Holy Scriptures.

Nur, to assist you, here is the official Bahá'í International Community's Web site, where official Bahá'í views, writings, etc. can be read: //www.bahai.org/.

Bankrupt and Bitter...

Bankrupt, Bitter and now Desperate as ever, you have shown all along in all your rants Nima,

wahid, Nur,Azal....

The Mullahs used this decades ago, to somehow accuse Bahais of being unpatriotic...

what does this desperation show but your utter lack of honesty and decency in trying to mislead people.

sad shame... 

Faryarm

Not to worry, Gavazn

Gavazn,

Not to worry, there are many (millions, actually) Baha'is "guilty" of not being "Iranian enough" since the majority of "declared" Baha'is in the world far exceeds the number of Iranian Baha'is.

A benefit the Faith has achieved is an informal kind of "ambassdorship" for things culturally Iranian. Most Baha'is have experienced Iranian food, music, poetry (and that oh-so-delicate sensibility of manners). I have seen many who were unexpectedly touched by the experience of Iranian culture transmitted by the Baha'i friends through hospitality and kindness. With all my heart, I believe Baha'u'llah represents the high arc of Persian culture. This is why the Faith has already encircled the globe and produced a profound sense of harmony among its incredibly diverse membership.

Oh no, "I am a bahai""

He's trying to start an argument. You've fallen into his trap - to say you're not Iranian enough or patriotic enough. Here we go ...........

celebrated with exuberance

Let not a man glory in this, that he loves his country; let him rather glory in this, that he loves his kind.

The Earth is but one country and mankind its citizens.

Let your vision be world-embracing.

- Baha'u'llah

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Yes, Nur, this is precisely what we mean. 

Baha'is celebrate all nations and places on the earth with exuberance. The above quote means that no nation should exalt itself over another nation. No national, ethinic or racial identity should cause our relationships to become prejudicial against others. This takes nothing from national identity or pride of origin.

Let me say again, differences among people are celebrated with exuberence by Baha'is. However, the importance of identifying with the rest of humanity, (i.e., "the world") means we should, in spirit, transcend borders and boundaries through our natural good will,especially in times of peril and need.

"That he loves his kind" includes loving Iranians, includes you, Nur.