Piyalechi

sara yashil

So funny, What you said, brought back so many good memories from high school. I had 3 friends from Kozestan ( due to war their families moved to my home town ), we were inseparable, and my fourth best friend was not only Armenian but he stater very badly. Sara, thank you. Apology accepted. 

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Pedro I apologise

Pedro I apologise as my intention was not to personally
insult you. But I find your racist attitudes highly offensive.

Racism & bigotry
makes me angry.  

I see no difference in your statements (that would be especially offensive to Iranian Arabs) then the cruel discrimination by the Iranian regime
against eg Bahais.

sara yashil, Thou ought not .....

 Why attacking me for my DICTATION. Why so much anger towards your uneducated fellow Iranians? You are not my farm nor anyone else here on this site.........

Unlike you, not all Iranians in diaspora is a graduate of Harvard, majored in English literature, nor could some most of us afford to, unless off course you are one of the few recipients of endless Iranian blood money from the islamic rapist regime. I truly hope not.

Nevertheless, you are not going to gag anyone expressing their opinion because they are not ivy league graduate. Next time you fly in an airplane, remember me, Because if we were all English majored, you wouldn't be off the ground flying in comfort.  Have a crumpet and a cup of tea, then, look into enrolling back at Harvard for an anger management courses.

Goodness!........ so hard, checking grammar and spelling when writing in eengllissh. OOPS.....

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odd view of Secularism

1979 revolution is not replicable. But your view of a Secular democratic state is at odds with the reality of the current world. Just considering e.g. all western nations that are deemed a secular. In these nations non-elected religious leaders are not allowed to influence political decisions. But religion and national beliefs continue to have huge influence on political debate as is the case in the USA.

Mousavi & Karrubi have stood with people at huge cost to their families and themselves. No other leaders have been able to unite young Iranians like Mousavi & Karrubi. Try and find answers to some questions? Why do the young in Iran Chant Yah Mehdi Sheik Mehdi and Yah Hossein Mir Hossein?
In captivity Mousavi & Karrubi have become symbols of courage resilience and fortitude. I as someone who was born after the revolution have never had   such empowering leaders.

Hypocrisy

The reason the green movement will not succeed in a political sense is because it is split. You can not propagate for separating religion from the political sphere and at the same time yelling "Allah Akbar" (no matter what you mean in your heart), it's contraproductive. Either you are for a secular society, or you are against. You can not use false idols  as a shield, the truth will sooner or later come out, this is also the case with Mousavi and Karoubi, they will have to answer to actual factual matters at the end...

This sort of redefinement of the green movement is extremly important to take place now, or it will be the case of the 1979 revolution where one group took power in its own hands and got rid of the other groups, even though they were protesting together a year earlier... 

ignorance and bigotry

By your diction   I can tell that no language is native to you.
What is it with a lot of the Diaspora? that can neither speak English or Persian?

The only poison i know that stands against Iran and democracy is ignorance and bigotry.  Luckily the vast majority of Iranians are young educated and find attitudes like yours laughable.  

Iran is the proud Arabs of Khuzestan to the lyrical Persians
of Shiraz. Iranians may choose to be Moslems, Armenian, Jewish, Bahais or atheists
if they chose to be.

But what will make us democratic is if we stand up against your
kind of ignorance and bigotry.

sara yashil

Ok Missy, If you have poisonus plant growing in your back yard and you know this plant is not native to your area, while it is harmfull to your children and pets, would you just go out there and water it and nurish it? the answer is NO! 

arabic alnguage and islam is not native to us, try to feed dog food to a sheep. 

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You have the same logic of

You have the same logic of a mulah... they have been trying to reprogram iran for 32 yaers too.

This just shows

how much harder we have to work to eradicate the trash added to our beautiful peace loving culture and language. Don't give up so easily. If Mullahas left the country today, it will take about 3 decade to clean up their mess and requires billions of dollars to just clean up. However it will take another 30 years to reprogram all the effected barains and substitute good words, good thoughts and good behavior with evil words, evil thoughts and evil actions.

Has anyone heard this before?

CHEEP THINGS ARE NOT GOOD....... GOOD THINGS ARE NOT CHEEP.

"ANTIDOTE"

Here at IC. there should be  constant notes, reminders, articles ( ANTIDOTE) to increase awareness to substitute alahoakbar and other arabic/islamic words with meaninful beautiful Persian slogans.

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Golshifteh & Allah-o-Akbar

Also ask why Allah-o-Akbar resonates with a generation young Iranian like
 Golshifteh Farahani

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HLL_l2rysk

Ask why a person like her outside Iran has chosen to
sing this?

and you may get some clues about the generation of young Iranian who
outnumber you and the tyrants who try to rule over them

Ps See Shahid Mohammad Mokhtari

See Shahid Mohammad Mokhtari two months before he died. He was killed only weeks ago try and see him as as he was not as you want to see him.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5CYrUyKgFU

The problem is that you are as bigoted as they very people you
profess to be fighting.

They would love to ban Nouroz and you would love to ban Alah-o-Akbar. You are both playing a losing game.

They want an Iran that can only exist in the squalor that is
the Beiet-Rahabary.

You want a pretend sanitised Iran that you can put on your
mantle piece (display cabinet) at home to show your non-Iranian friends...

who as
hard as you try may always think of you as a rag-head

imaginary Iran

I am Iranian i love Persepolis i love that Isfahan Mosque,  Masjed-e Shah, I love Charshanbeh Souri, I love the ash Nazri that our neighbour brings over at Moharram. I love Googoosh and Sousan kouri and  i love it when shajarian sings the Koranic verses Rabana as my grandmother gets ready to break her fast.

When did any of last go to Iran? 1979? I’m not religious.  but I know that the vast majority of Iranian are.  Forget about Iran and just live in this imaginary concocted LA Iran floating on the clouds of the ruins of Persepolis.

Persepolis is truly a majestic place and it represents a history that we should all be proud of. But Iran a lot more too. Islam has been the main religion in Iran for 1400 years and I can’t think of a more Iranian name than Ali or Hossein.

To say that these names are not Iranian is like a new age hippie who says that they will call their kids only ancient Celtic names like Alpin or Beolagh... as all other names  came to Britain via Roman invaders. Well fair enough. But you are just like that new age English hippie an oddity and in the minority amongst your own people. Hossein and Ali are as Iranian as is for instance Peter is English that has both Greek and Latin roots.

This disconnect is why for 32 years no one from the so called exiled opposition has been able to unite the people until now. Until a brave cleric karubi and a man called mir-hossein came along. Just try and call a few young people back in Iran and talk to them. Ask them what they get out of crying Alah-o-Akabr.

Pedro I also love Ey Iran . It was written by a great man with great Iranian name who later became a professor at Tehran University. His name was Hossein Golgolab. 

I am Iranian i love Persepolis i love that Isfahan Mosque,  Masjed-e
Shah, I love Charshanbeh Souri, I love the ash Nazri that our neighbour
brings over at Moharram. I love Googoosh and Sousan kouri and  i love it
when shajarian sings the Koranic verses Rabana as my grandmother gets
ready to break her fast.

I agree,

Get rid of Alahoakbar, Ya hossain, and other Arab names please. Get on the roofs and sing EY IRAN, or your favorite Ghomeyshi song for heavons sake. what the hell is wrong with us, haven't the eslamist tourtured, rape, killed  enough of us IRANIANS in the name of alahoakbar. what the F.... is wrong with us.

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Why do the street demonstrations seem to be going nowhere?

Why have the demonstrations against the Islamic Republic yielded little more than more martyrs and imprisoned souls so far?

To me, the answer is because the critical or overwhelming masses of Iranians are still sitting at home, of course.

And why is that?

Maybe because they keep constantly hearing and reading religiously tainted slogans by people who are supposedly fighting against the theocratic tyranny.
 
Maybe because people want the religion to have absolutely no part in the politics of the future Iranian government, if there ever is going to be one…

Or, maybe because, like I said before, trying to fight an Islamic theocracy by chanting "Allah-o-Akbar" is about as logical as trying to help an alcoholic kick his dependency on alcohol by discussing it during beer drinking sessions!...

Noush...

SLOGAN OF DEAD END

If there is serious movement against the regime must put all the slogan related to Regime a side, otherwise we are not so serious and that is why some people in Iranian and western countries are spreading the word that Iranian are not ready for democracy yet. Marg Bar Khamenaie + Iran + Irani + azadi + hokomat e Irani. nationalisim is what they hate not ALaha Akbar. our nation is Religious people because they have never questioned why is that they have to pray 5 times and they never question why thier religion spreads hate instead of peace, why is killing is welcomed in Islam, if some one had a understanding of the religion that so much they love, would never pray 5 times a day nor will they beat themselves in ASHOURA.

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هر چند که ما موافقیم که اینگونه باشد بر همان میزان که نویسنده این بلاگ می‌گوید اما این امر را عملی‌ نمی‌دانیم.

بسیاری از مخالفان که در ایران به سر میبرند..افرادی مذهبی‌ هستند و احساساتی مذهبی‌ دارند،حال ایشان حق دارند و یا ما... این مهم نیست ! مهم این است که هر کسی‌،با هر جور عقیده و ایمانی که دارد با دیگری متحد شده تا اسلامیون رادیکال و افراطی را از بین ببرد،هر وقت که در مملکت آزادی عقیده برپا شد آن وقت آینده حکومت ایران به رفراندوم رسد.

نباید سعی‌ کرد که فعلا با این حرفها از راه به در شده و تفرقه بینمان بی‌ افتد !

Every single time there a chant of " Allah o Akabr" that's a

violation of human dignity and human rights in Iran.

CAN NOT FIGHT A THEOCRACY WITH THEIR OWN LANGUAGE AND RELIGION. Perhaps the past 32 years hasn't taught us enough.

People on the roof tops should be chanting AZADI, not allah o akabr.

Iranian people need to develop and augment a non-religious language, culture, social discourse, free of all backward, conservative, values and points of view.

There is absolutely nothing wrong....

with tapping into people's religious feelings as a means of overthrowing the islamist regime. It'd be like taking the weapon out of the bassiji hand and blowing his head off with it, if you get my drift....

No wonder

No ownder we are still stuck, you are so out of touch and are swiming in your own reality. I am assuming next you will say, go to streets and shout "marg bar islam". 

When was the last time you were in Iran? It has been said over and over again, bala beri-payeen beyay, Islam is it in Iran and No movement will successed there during our life time, if Islam is excluded from it. Few of my relatives in US who drink wine with dinner, fast in Ramedan and don't miss their daily pray (all five of them) have always given me the look when I question Islam. Now go an place that in Iran.

Check the Balatarin site and you will see responses you have gotten with your great (NOT) idea.

I can not agree with you More

We need to cleanse our PARSI language from Arabic Garbage.

Allah o Akbar death to Farsi!

If onyl other Islamic phrases such as "Inshallah", "Ya Ali", "Ghoran Ghassam" and "AMshallah" can be removed from the Iranian vernacular. There are many patriotic Iranian schollars who are revising the Persian language trying to find the Persian equivalents to Arabic words. Farsi is a corrupted language and needs to go through a thorough revision in the same way Bismarck tried to remove as Much Latin syntax and Latin derivative words as possible and susbtituting them with pure German ones. Pahlavi or Middle Persioan should be encouraged in schools and newer geenration of Iranians will learn a purer Persian in the same way many children in the state of Israel speak fluent Hebrew in schools putting their parents and relatives to shame because  most of them speak Yiddish and other Eurpeanor Sephardic langauges which are a corruption of Hebrew and languages of their adopted countries.

Death to Farsi (an Arabic corruption of "Parsi"). May the Persian langauge live forever.  

الله اکبر

 Islam is a political religion. It can't be confined to personal matters. Deal with it accordingly.

Never increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

الله اکبر!

نکته کلیدی

به نکته کلیدی ای اشاره کرده اید،  سالهاست معتقدین چشم باز دین اسلام به این امر واقفند و مخالف جدی آن.

از این گذشته متاسفانه بکارگیری واژگان دینی در ادبیات سیاسی ایران، حتی در میان سکولارها،  جا خوش کرده و باید در پالایش آن دقت بیشتری شود.

بسیار مطلب بجایی نوشته اید، دست مریزاد، پیاله همیشه پر و پیمان باد.

Allah not so Akbar

I hope we can stop this Allah o Akbar business too. I don't know another people so attached to a slogan they honestly don't believe in! It's simply become a habit to yell Allah o Akbar to protest against tyrants or declare victory. But the fact is that it's out dated. How many of us are THAT religious these days to be inspired by Allah o Akbar? We're over it. Let's move on to more relevant things.