Ravian Bilani

You spoke too soon, Al-boz

You have no prima facie evidence that Abbas Effendi's services were humanitarian. This was a post facto narratival fabrication by you Baha'is. The British themselves say that they bestowed this knighthood on Abbas Effendi for his services rendered to their government. Who are you to second guess them?

My presence here is your scourge! Let's just say it keeps a certain balance in the universe.

Wahid Azal 

The services rendered were humanitarian and to...

...the impoverished masses in Palestine which was under British rule.

Your absence here is not missed !

Alborz

Abbas Effendi's services rendered to the British government

"Sir 'Abbas Effendi 'Abdu'l Baha had travelled extensively in Europe and America to expound his doctrines, and on the 4th of December, 1919, was created by King George V. a K.B.E. for valuable services rendered to the British Government in the early days of the Occupation."

Reference :
PALESTINE

EDITED BY : HARRY CHARLES LUKE, B.Lr1r., M.A.

ASSISTANT GOVERNOR OF JERUSALEM AND
EDWARD KEITH-ROACH ASSISTANT CHIEF SECRETARY TO THE GOVERNMENT OF
PALESTINE

WITH AN INTRODUCTION BY
The Right Hon. SIR HERBERT SAMUEL, P.C., G.B.E.
HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR PALESTINE

Issued under the Authority of the Government of Palestine

MACMILLAN AND CO., LIMITED
ST. MARTIN'S STREET, LONDON

Find Peace

All:

No matter what disinformation gets placed up here,
these are the facts:

1. There is no Baha'i community in Israel because Baha'u'llah commanded His followers not to make one there. Baha'is do not teach the Baha'i Faith in Israel. All the Baha'is who live in Haifa are there as volunteers from around the world and their stay is temporary.

2. In the late 19th and early 20th century there were Baha'is living in what was then Palestine (they were descendants of the original exiles from Iran), but Shoghi Effendi, the only Guardian of the Baha'i Faith, asked them to relocate and they did.

3. Presently, any person, including an Israeli, can become a Baha'i. However, Israeli citizens in order to enroll in the Baha'i Faith have to leave Israel and go to another country to perform this enrollment.
I met one such person who did exactly this.

4. To become a Baha'i you can go online and go to the Baha'i website of the country in which you live in and ask for help in becoming a Baha'i. (This however, is not true for Iranians, where the Baha'i Faith originated). If you live in the US, you can find most local Baha'i communities in the phone book and simply call them.

A person is considered a Baha'i if they believe in the Teachings of Baha'u'llah and agree to observe the laws of the Baha'i Faith. There is no conversion process or qualification.

If you are reading this message, please be aware that the blogger, "Ravian Bilani" is not a real name but is a play on the name of a well-known Baha'i scholar. It looks as this "Ravian" or "NUR" or "Covenant" (along with other "non de plumes" here) all belong to one individual who appears to be posting misleading information about the Baha'i Faith.

So sorry, "Ravian, "NUR", or whoever you are. Words cannot harm this sacred cause. I hope you will overcome your impulses to prevaricate and find peace.

Let's Start Teaching in the Holy Land

The only way of salvation for Jews is to accept the Bahá'í Faith. (The Guardian of the Bahai Faith - Shoghi Effendi)

The Bahá'ís should certainly Endeavour to establish further contacts with your Jewish fellow-citizens, as their spiritual destiny is assuredly very bright. The age-long sufferings and tribulations which the Jews all over the world have so cruelly experienced will be terminated during the Bahá'í era, as they will be gradually led to embrace the Faith which, indeed, constitutes the only means of salvation to their race." (Letter of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, September 22, 1937)

رقیبان ازلیِ بهائیت، نخستین مروجان نظریه‌ توطئه

رقیبان ازلیِ بهائیت، نخستین مروجان نظریه‌ توطئه

//bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home
Made in Nur & Co

اما این اتهام از کجا سرچشمه می ‌گیرد؟ ریشه‌ اتهام ارتباط بهائیان با خارجی‌ها چندگانه است.

در دوره ‌اولیه‌ دیانت بهائی، شاخه‌ های مذهبی همسایه‌ آن مانند "ازلی‌ها" تیر این اتهام را به سوی بهائیت روانه کردند.

آن ‌گونه که خانم مانگول بیات در کتاب "نخستین انقلاب ایران؛ تشیع و انقلاب مشروطیت 1909-1905"
(Iran's First Revolution: Shi'ism and the Constitutional Revolution of 1905-1909)

آورده است، ازلی ‌ها که در جنبش مشروطیت فعال بودند و از نظر مذهبی رقیب بهائیان به شمار می ‌رفتند، کوشیدند تا با جا انداختن برچسب "ارتباط با خارجی" حقانیت و اصالت دین بهائیت را به پرسش بگیرند.

ازلی‌ها پیروان میرزا یحیی نوری، ملقب به صبح ازل، جانشین محمد علی باب، بنیادگذار آیین بابی، بودند و در آغاز به ضرورت جهاد و براندازی مسلحانه‌حکومت قاجاریه باور داشتند.

میرزا حسین‌علی بهاء (بعدها بهاء الله)، برادر پدری میرزا یحیی نوری بود. پس از مدتی میان دو برادر بر سر جانشینی پدر اختلاف و دشمنی عمیق افتاد. بابیان به دو شاخه‌ ازلی‌ ها و بهائی‌ ها تقسیم شدند. گروه‌ ازلی‌ها دیری نپایید و فروپاشید، اما بهائیان تا به امروز در سراسر جهان روی به گسترش و فزونی نهادند.

از سوی دیگر، بر پایه‌ آنچه در کتاب "بریتانیا و انقلاب مشروطیت ایران 1911-1906؛ سیاست خارجی، امپریالیسم و مخالفت"
(Britain and the Iranian Constitutional Revolution of 1906-1911; Foreign Policy, Imperialism and Dissent(
، نوشته‌منصور بنکداریان آمده است، ارتداد شماری از یهودیان به آیین بابی و بهائی و نیز گرویدن شماری از انگلیسی‌ها به بهائیت، بدگمانی‌ها در باره‌رابطه‌بابی‌ ها و بهائی ‌ها به "بیگانگان" را افزود.

گفتنی است که از آغاز پیدایش بهائیت، شمار فراوانی از روحانیان شیعه و پیروان ادیان دیگر مانند زردتشتی به این دین گرویده ‌اند.

CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

Start HERE (SourceWatch): Baha'i Faith

 SECTS OF BAHAIS: A Taxonomy of Baha'i Sects //www.sectsofbahais.com/

&

See documentary film by independent Israeli film maker Naama Pyritz: BAHA'IS IN MY BACKYARD

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US NSA (National Spiritual Assembly of the USA) vs OBF (Orthodox Baha'i Faith)

Recent court victory by the Orthodox Baha'is, and the suit brought by the Haifan Bahai organization against them:

Judge's decision

**Appellate hearing (Feb 2009) (listen) ***

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BAHAI Tactics & Techniques - CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel, Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite, Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence, Harass... etc., etc....  CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

1. As far as possible they hold back from responding

2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning ignorance

3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues

4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,

biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to the main issue exposed)

5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,

i.e. shoot the messenger

6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed and supporting the bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais

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The THEORY OF BAHA’I LYING & EQUIVOCATION

See Susan Stiles Maneck,

WISDOM AND DISSIMULATION IN THE BAHA’I WRITINGS: The Use and meaning of Hikmat in the Baha’i Writings

Quote

"In many cases hikmat calls for the apparent suspension of a Bahá'í principle in order to ensure the protection of the Faith."

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BAHA'I ADMINISTRATIVE IDOLATRY & STALINISM

QUOTE

"We don't want to be like those people who want to see God with their own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we have been given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of the House of Justice and listen through the ears of the House of Justice." - Bahai Counselor Rebeque Murphy

To hear this section of her talk (click)

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BAHAI NOTIONS of FREEDOM of CONSCIENCE according to EX-UHJ member DOUGLAS MARTIN --  Monday, September 23, 2001

//www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/DMartin.htm

 "We have inherited a dangerous delusion from Christianity that our individual conscience is supreme. This is not a Baha'i belief. In the end, in the context of both our role in the community and our role in the  greater world, we must be prepared to sacrifice our personal convictions or opinions. The belief that individual conscience is supreme is equivalent to "taking partners with God" which is abhorrent to the Teachings of the Faith." 

//www.bahai-library.org/talks/martin.watson.html

NOTE especially, S.G. Wilson,

BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION The Muslim World vol. 4, issue 4, 1914

&

BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS DECEPTION The Muslim World, Volume 5, Issue 2,

1914-1915.

See as well, BAHAISM AND THE BRITISH

NOTE

//www.bayanic.com [CLICK tab BAHAISM]

==CAUTION NON-BAHAIS==

The comments of NSA Member are misleading and inaccurate.

The representation made by NSA Member are incorrect and misleading.  There is no Haifa LSA !

Bahai's in Israel: The Baha'is in Israel are not a community, and have never been one.  They are all there as volunteers and live within the context of either being members of administrative bodies or care-takers of Baha'i Holy sites.  In fact their status is recognized as such by the government of Israel.  They are all "guests" and have come to Israel for the expressed purpose of serving for a finite period.  None are Israeli citizens nor can ever become one for the specific reason that the state of Israel is entirely made up of Jewish immigrants and Palestinians.  It should now be clear as to why Baha'is have voluntarily chosen to limit their status to that of "guests".  This declaration was made at the time of the inception of the state of Israel and was reciprocally accepted and turned into an an agreement. 

The wisdom behind this status is well understood and accepted by Baha'is and any representation contrary to this is a sign of either being uninformed or malicious intent.  I certainly hope that it is the former.

Anyone that is interested in learning more about the Baha'i Faith can contact the Baha'is in their community which are readily found either through their websites or the telephone book.

Alborz

Baha'i holy places in Haifa!

//www.bahaipictures.com/

You want to become a Baha'i

Emely T. just visit the Baha'i Center of Haifa.

We do not enroll new believers at the Shrines or BWC as we are not allowed by the Israeli Government to do that. We are in agreement with the Government of not converting the Israeli citizens in S.O.I. to Baha'i faith, If you are not an Israeli Citizen you can contact the LSA of Haifa which is having its center in the Old German Quarters and sign the card there and become a registered member of the faith. Your Baha'i Identity Card will be mailed to your address.

We pray to Baha'u'llah to remove this obstacle of enrolling new believers in the Holy Land.

Thank you Ravian for your service to the beloved faith of God.

These Are Photos of "Mini Israel", Not Baha'i Gardens

Dear scb:

You are so right! The Baha'i gardens are famous for their beauty.

You probably know that the pictures "Mr. Bilani" uploaded to his thread are photos of "Mini Israel," a tourist attraction near Jerusalem. That's why the details in the photos he uploaded are not as lush as the actual gardens.

Even if "Ravian" (or whoever the heck he really is) is jealous, spiteful or plain out of his mind, you are right. He is doing the Baha'i Faith a great service. I'm not a Baha'i, but when I look at pictures of their Gardens, I think about becoming one!

I have some friends who came from India who are Baha's in Texas. They are always seem so cheerful and happy! How do you become a member?

The gardens were very elegant when I saw them a few years ago. The Baha'is don't charge people to visit the gardens because they are dedicated to God. I've seen them, no photo could do them justice. So much color and form!

You can see the website for "Mini Israel with all the various Holy Places of Israel in miniature(including the Mosque of Omar)at ://www.minisrael.co.il/home_en.html

Poor Mr. Bilani is Jealous of the Baha'is Green Thumb!!

This is so untrue as to be laughable!!

Poor Mr. Bilani will never learn, the more you defame this Faith, the more it will spread and grow. The Baha'i Gardens were named one of the nine wonders of the modern world and are newly name and recognized as UNESCO World Heritage sites. They should be seen to be believed.

The Baha'is Gardens in Haifa and Akka get an average of 12,000 visitors A DAY!!

There is a fabulous new website sponsored by the International Baha'i Community at:

//www.ganbahai.org.il/en/
Learn all about these exceptional gardens.

In the best tradition of Persian gardening, the design of these gardens are astoundingly spiritual.
Poor, benighted Mr. Bilani must be jealous. So sorry, Ravian!!