World Baha'i Statistics

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World Baha'i Statistics
by Ravian Bilani
20-Apr-2010
 

Recently two articles posted on net effectively analyzed exaggerated Baha’i census. One “Exit by troops”
(//www.angelfire.com/ca3/bigquestions/troopsex...) and the other “Three types of Baha’i census of India”. (//bahaicensusindia.blogspot.com/)

The first article is a very moderate view of the author, whereas the second article “The Three Type of Baha’i census of India” is much deeper analysis supported by documents authenticated by figures.

The common point in the two analyzations is the fact that one reason for this huge discrepancy in Baha’i census is that, no one is ever removed from the membership rolls unless they write a letter to the National Center renouncing their belief. So a person who becomes disillusioned and simply drifts away can remain on the rolls indefinitely. Once a Baha’i then always a Baha’i even after his death.

There is another opinion by Mr. Larry Rowe who believes that “The gross exaggeration of world Baha'i membership numbers is meant to placate all those who have been promised entry by troops for the past 80 years. The gross exaggeration of the number of actual Baha'is in India goes hand in hand with the inclusion of tens of thousands of people who signed declaration cards in North America in the past 20 to 40 years and that was it; they never truly became Baha'is they simply put their name on a card like you would on a Zellers card and never followed it up. Also the many others who signed declaration cards but who have become inactive and no long believe in the Baha'i faith or have actually joined other religious communities but have never taken the time to resign and have been addressing unknown for many years.”

Well I feel that the real cause for such a huge exaggeration in Baha’i census is much deeper and that is ‘well planned strategy of Baha’i administration centered at Haifa to show to the world high acceptability and success so as to claim that Baha’i Faith is one of the major religions of the world. It can be considered as the thirteen unwritten principle of Haifa based organization. All the counselors, ABMs assistant and members of LSAs are trained to work towards achieving this goal. The one who is more expert in this exaggeration is promoted much higher in the Baha’i Organization.

The Ruhi book courses are just to collect the addresses and to claim these are Baha’is. False stories are fabricated that the whole world is just dying for doing Ruhi books and to be converted. Whereas the fact is that many countries have deported Baha’is for proselytizing children and Junior youths as young as fifteen years and in many countries the Priests have warned the baha’is not to do any moral classes with Christian children, they may do it only for Baha’i children.

There is virtually no Baha'is in continental Europe. Very few in Holland, similar in Spain, Germany and France, fewer in Italy. From a demographic point of view this may as well be "zero."

The Baha’is claim to be about 5,000 in the UK but who knows what that means, and it is not a lot anyway. Likewise the CIS countries have very few Baha'is. Almost none in China. So, with Europe, Eurasia and China out of the way, where are they?

There are 60,000 adult Baha'is with good addresses in the US, 12,500 in Canada. These are addresses only! It means the aim of Ruhi Books courses are implemented very successfully. Actually they are not more than 500 in US and same number in Canada

The Middle East is likewise very small. Mostly Persians who married deceitfully Arab women’s without giving their Baha’i identity and then claiming their Baha’i children as citizen of that country.

There are 2,000 at most in the Arab world mostly Iranian pioneers. There are less than 30,000 registered Baha’is in Iran. Maybe 200, mostly Iranian refugees, in Turkey.

Not more than 1500 in Pakistan (mainly former Hindus, mainly rural peasants). About 500 in Bangladesh.

There are 300 in Thailand. There were 400 in Vietnam before the revolution, but few are likely to remain. There are very few, then, in all of Southeast Asia. There are only a few hundred in Japan, and a similar number in Korea. East Asia is a wash.

All that is really left is Latin America, sub-Saharan Africa, and India. 2.2 millions are claimed in India but the official census of Government of India say the exact number of Baha'is are only 11,324. Indians like to 'join' things, but go on being Hindus.

The claim of millions of Baha'is in Latin America is also fake. Mexico appears to have almost none. Columbia and Bolivia may have few hundreds each, to my recollection, but that is not the same as millions.

The biggest community was Uganda. But it has been greatly disrupted in the last 2 decades by war and dictatorship, and one doesn't know how many are left.

The Baha’i movement contains no potential for growth. It has only vertical potential of growth in terms of different sects originating in small time of 160 years. (www.sectsofbahais.com). The 7 million reported to Encyclopedia Britannica by someone in Wilmette or Haifa is.... wish-fulfillment rather than a solid social science statistic. This high exaggeration also points towards a high level of frustration which is developing amongst members of Haifa based organization. At any point of time the Baha’i population in the World is not more than hundred thousand (0.1 million).

Baha’i Faith is essentially Persian dominated organization. It is no where near Christianity. It is not the fastest growing religion, it is not the most widespread religion after Christianity. Yes it may be the most comfortable religion, well then that is not a religion.

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no spelling mistakes

by sag koochooloo on

... just a Bahai keyboard.

 


Nur-i-Azal

Because the Persian keyboard on this computer I am using

by Nur-i-Azal on

Is utterly f-ed and I need to get me a new computer very soon, and because of this I couldn't be bothered fixing any incorrect spelling due to the fact that it is time consuming to do so!

That said, answer the question anyway, molla-loghati jun. Be-haashiyeh naravid o dasht-e-Karbalaa! Javaab bedid. Chera?

 

BTW I am all ears on how to fix a standard Windows XP Persian keyboard that keeps skipping letters or gives incorrect letters, or sometimes none at all. This happened as a result of an HD crash about a year ago. I've tried installing and reinstalling XP several times over, redoing all the settings from scratch, and still the same thing happens.

 

Ya NUR


farshadjon

...

by farshadjon on

سوال اساسی این هست که چرا یه نفرنمی تونه 2 تا جمله ساده را به فارسی بدون غلط بنویسه    

عیال = ایال

 ضرب المثل = ضربمثل


Nur-i-Azal

A question

by Nur-i-Azal on

اگر حسین علی‌ نوری موعود و نجات دهنده کل عالم بوده و هست، چه
شد که نتونست حتّی خاندان و آل و عیال خود رأ از جنگ و جدال و نزاع و تفرقه
نجات بده؟ این یک سوال اساسیست. لطفا جواب بدید. 

مگه ضرب المثل نداریم "کل اگر طبیب بودی بر سر خود دوا نمودی"

یا نور


i am a bahai too

HAPPY RIDVAN!

by i am a bahai too on

Eid Mubarak! HAPPY RIDVAN! JOYOUS RIDVAN!

Even Monsieur Bilani's perseverant falsehood can't impede the growth of the Baha'i Faith.  In my local area there are about 230 Baha'is, with 25 new Baha'is this past year. Two of them were born Muslims who realized the Promised One of All Ages has come to free humanity.  That is indeed a comforable thing. Maybe RB sounds so desperately unhappy because he can't resolve his attraction to the Faith. 

BTW - there are easily four times the number of Baha'is in my local metro area than the figure RB claims as accurate for US membership.

Faryam, let's celebrate the Holy Day and pray for this poor man.

 


Cost-of-Progress

Ideologies

by Cost-of-Progress on

Religions are schools of thought (OK, perhasp thought is an overstretch) but the essence of religion is to fill the void where there's no government - or more precisely, where there WAS NO government.

You cannot legislate morality through religion.

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IRAN FIRST

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farshadjon

Mr. Bilani

by farshadjon on

What a genius you are!

You have discovered another cheating from Bahai’s right here! Yes, it is not 150 years, good for you!

Bahai’s again twisted the statistics to manipulate the facts and you nailed it again, Mr. Smart! They don’t have any future, because their foundation is based on violence!!!

You got to be kidding me!!

I think that you are high, so I don’t continue!

Here is the example of violence from Bahai’s:

//www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=17539


Ravian Bilani

Not 150 years

by Ravian Bilani on

167 years. Today is 13 Jalál, 167 BE.
How this blog is an attack? How come it is "Desperate" and "Meaningless". It is full of meaning but you Haifan Baha'is do not like the truth to be published. What is false here?

This is a fact, that Baha'is have no future because the foundations of this cult is based on Violence and Cheating. You can fool some innocent people but not many. Intellectuals like themselves to be called as "Covenant Breakers".


faryarm

Desperate ....

by faryarm on

Keep writing these Desperate and meaningless attacks... 

where has it achieved for you..and those before you in the last 150 years, except

discredit and oblivion.  

To what result?

Ultimately People will judge Bahais by their individual actions and its transforming power to loving productive individuals who serve society. 

If the Bahai Faith has no future, then what are you so worried about?

faryarm