Several days ago I announced in a blog my very unhappy decision to leave this website permanently, and the word I used to explain myself was pain. Pain caused me by three very close friendships here in shambles, which I simply could no longer bear. Qumars Balourchian (Q), wrote a blog asking me to stay, and the word that made me re-think my decision was need He said this website needs me.
And he isn't the first person who's told me this, but the difference was that, while Q is someone I deeply, deeply respect and admire, he's also someone I don't know that well here. So I was very surprised and very very moved by his gesture. And so I began to re-think.
And then came other kind and supportive people, old friends and new. And then there was the usual handful of hateful, sadisitic comments from those deeply disturbed people we all have to somehow endure. Along with some ambivalent ones, which seemed to all implicitly or explicitly characterize me as a"Drama Queen."
Well, I am often dramatic and I sometimes act like a Queen Bee, but I am not a drama queen. I do not compulsively create disruptive situations in order to attract attention. This situation is dead serious for me, and I would not have used the word pain lightly. nor would I have in fact even remotely considered for five minutes leaving this website were not the situation dead serious. Because quite frankly I've devoted my life to this website since last year. (And why, you may be wondering, would anyone other than Jahanshah do that, and my provisional response to you is, why not?).
So here is my decision about what I'd like to happen: I will remain here for two weeks time during which I will write several blogs and one article that I really feel are important, some I've been working on for a while, others new, and also hopefully consolidate my new relationships with some of the people I've just been meeting because of my other recent hiatus (yes, related...). After these two weeks I will leave for a minimum of two months and when I return, I will place my major focus on the political work I used to do here last year, which I would characterize as helping out in achieving complete Truth and Reconciliation among the various political factions in our little blogging family--an initiai goal. (I know, I know, a whole bunch of you are rolling your eyes right now and thinking what a grandiose, pretentious bitch, and you know what? You're no longer of concern to me. So roll away). Needless to say, I'll continue to write poetry and satire as well.
That is what I hope for. Unfortunately, in order for it to be able to happen, I'm afraid I need to write one more blog, because an aspect of all this needs to be much further examined if I am to be able to return. So I have to ask the people who've stuck by me these past few excruciating days to hang on just a little longer and keep an eye out for this next blog. Because I'm gonna need your support. Meantime, thanks to everyone who's been here for me, from the very bottom of my right now very bottomless heart. But I do have to give some special thanks to American Wife, Souri, and Kouroush Sassanian.
And as for Q....well, Q, if you hadn't forced me to face that Quintessential Question--who benefits really from my leaving permanently if I need the website and some on it feel the website needs me?--Q,...I'd've been gone tomorrow a.m. with my account deleted and my computer blocked as I'd requested of Jahanshshah in that first blog. And I can assure all of you that once having done that, it would've been for good.
Qumars...I...
Rosie
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TO ALL: The uspport I siad I would need on a blog to come is
by Rosie T. on Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:18 AM PDTnot needed. I consider the blog I posted on democracy (Song of Myself) to Jahanshah reminding him of the values we share and used to discuss together to be that blog. I consider that bog finished. When I speak of balance in moderation to him in it, it is because of excesses I've observed and been told about by others which I have always written to him about, and also excesses to me.
It is by now such a public secret that the third person who makes it so hard, and MOST hard, for me to be here is jj that I can't possibly see what harm there is in posting this post. Thanks again for all your supposrt. I am leaving in a week and a half, as I said, for an extended period of time and I HOPE I'll be able to return. That's all I can say for now. No comment here needed. If you want to support me in ANY way in this VERY difficult time, please read my new blog (of course unfeatured) On War, This Website and Moderation. Thanks again, Robin
No, Realist, it doesn't sound cold.
by Rosie T. on Thu Jul 17, 2008 08:21 AM PDTIt sounds realistic.
My leaving or staying is one issue. What precipitated it is another. They are related but not the same.
You already explained that you're busy. So that's the explanation.
I don't even expect you to answer this. You already explained that you're busy.
Best,
Robin
My ignorance
by Realist (not verified) on Thu Jul 17, 2008 04:54 AM PDTAs a result of my participation in this site's and other similar Iranian and non-Iranian sites' discussion forums, I have developed a touch-and-flee relationship to threads where exchanges become unpleasantaries aimed at hurting the messaenger instead of opposing the message.
Because of my busy schedule, I only open threads:
1) from people whose work I've read before (and liked)
2) that involve politics
3) that have an interesting title
So I actually don't know what has gone before to cause your decision to leave the site. I know that it sounds a bit cold, and I'm sorry for that.
Souri, Sereen, Realist, JJ
by Rosie T. on Thu Jul 17, 2008 08:22 AM PDTSouri, I know you'probably going to tell me no, I don't have to, but I think I do owe yu an explanation for what happened on Q's blog. So I am going to write one to you. But it has to be private. As you know I have been owerwhelmed so Just give me a few days. But I really do think I'm over the hump now. (In case you don't knoiw, that means when you overcome an obstacle, when the worst is over, a hump is like a little mound--a very small hill-like camels have humps on their back). :O)
Sereen,, Realist That's a good point. I should judge whether I stay here or not based on the quality of my writing, much of which I know is excellent (although I do agree with WIFE, I have a problem with verbosity because of the way I think. But there is a very serious back story here, a personal one, where the personal and professional are hopelessly intertwined in a way that is very very painful for me. That is why the people who don't know me or don't like me are calling me a drama queen. But it's definitely not true. I
Realist: I think you and I have had several interchanges, buit they happened before I took my first recent hiatus (related to the same personal issue that still affects me).So maybe you just don't remember. or maybe I think we had exchanges just because I've read your posts a lot. In any case I too like your writings. A (sometimes cold) dose of realisticness is always helpful and most of the time you provide this.
Sereen, I can't understand why your account was blolcck, i know your writings, ed.I thinnk jj is probably following all this anyway so now that you've divulged it I want to pursue it in a separate post because I am shocked. I hope you don''t mind. And as I continually try to remind people this website is PREDICATED upon free speech and giving a FORUM, A FORUM, of EXPRESSION for Iranians and those who care about them. Therefore iranian.com HAS to be a communal process especially since the institution of blogging. Otherwise it isn't what it claims to be and all is lost. It Then it is no longer a democracy, iit is a javidocracy.
JAHANSHAH,
WHAT IS THE POINT OF PROCLAIMING FREE SPEECH WHERE THERE IS NO DEMOCRACY???? JJ, last your when I used to post literature mostly poems on your submissions a lot ,I posted from Walt Whitman about democracy. You were very moved. You said I had captured your purpose, your mission by posting it. I will repost it here to remind you of your mission. YJahanshah, you are a civil libertariana and free speec advocate, moree passionate about it than most because of your Mohammed years.. JAHANSHAH you HAD to institute moderation against your will because you had no other choice. So it's VERY hard for you to find the middle ground and the see-saw tips in the opposite direction. You NEED communal imput in these matters to stay true to your true mission. I have been trying to talk to you about this for months. BUT YOU NEVER LISTEN TO ME ANYMORE. x
Robin
To be or not to be
by Realist (not verified) on Thu Jul 17, 2008 01:25 AM PDTDear RT
Your contributions please some people...and displease others, the two cancelling each other in the long run.
At the end of the day the deciding weight on the scale will be your own (dis)satisfaction with your writings. Writings that are pretty intelligent and challenging at times.
I've had a brief exchange with you and to me it seems you are a witty, and charming writer. So keep up the good work and most important of all do it at your own pace.
Regards, Realist (Meybokhor_Manbarbesuzan when I feel like logging on)
touchy
by American Wife (not verified) on Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:15 PM PDTtouchy touchy
:-)
Dear Rosie
by sereen90210 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 09:00 PM PDTsereen.com/befree.html
Salam
I saw your last comment to me but my account was banned for somereason so i made new one lol,,,,I thought i will not come back either but I had message and had to pass it to save life.
Remember eveil won in 1979 becouse people were illiterate's
in Usa eveil won in 2000 and look 911 was inside job and country went to war to 2008
Eveil can win and people loose everything over night.
King Solomon's wisdom is usually recalled in a famous incident in which
two women came before him with a baby, each claiming to be the mother.
Solomon ordered the child be cut in half, and by observing each woman's
reaction determined the true mother.
Atrue
man who love his nation and people will never go to war, Exposing his
people to Depleted Uranium and Cancer Remember that. US Media did not
Care nor President G W Bush.
Nevever give up always post you blogs and try to educate people as if you let the illiterate's win then we all loose,
Dear Rosie...
by Souri on Wed Jul 16, 2008 07:09 PM PDTAs I said before, you are a strong girl and I support your decision on this topic, no matter what.
On another note, although I usually ignore the ignorant, but this time I must thank American Wife, for her remark. Coming from her, this was a complement to me.
Rosie So what? I might click
by AnonymousTheMrs (not verified) on Wed Jul 16, 2008 06:36 PM PDTRosie
So what? I might click again on your next one. I admit. But I also like to watch accidents on freeways and other train wrecks.
It's entertainment.
There's Something I Think I Have to Clarify Again for You Guys:
by Rosie T. on Wed Jul 16, 2008 04:53 PM PDTI SAID I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO RETURN IN TWO MONTHS MINIMUM AND I SAID I NEED TO BLOG ONCE MORE SO THAT THIS WILL BE ABLE TO HAPPEN AND I WILL IN A COUPLE OF DAYS AND PLEASE LOOK OUT FOR THAT BLOG... it's important...(I know, Wife, you got it, I got you..)
now who wants to place bets on whether those two lovely little fishies downstairs swim secretly into that blog and read it????
Wife, Ebi, KS
by Rosie T. on Wed Jul 16, 2008 04:44 PM PDTWife, The Carole King Tapestry did not go unnoticed. Believe me. I don't feel in pain at all any longer, I feel very strong. Happy, I don't know. But strong.
Ebi, since you are the king as attested by your recent blog, if you call me Your Majesty, i must be the Shahbanouhanshahbanou. I like it. I like it very much. :o)
KS, yes, I pray with my legs and all my limbs all the way to my wrists and sundry other body parts and organs...and I remember the first time you ever said that to me but I bet you don't...it was on jj's Coming Home blog the day of his return from Europe and he asked you what it meant for some reason and you translated it into English and you said you finally forgave him for the Khomeini years because this website gave you so much but also caused you so many painful memories (I paraphrase all this)...and then you said maybe were ready to forgive everyone...maybe, and oh ks if you contact me at my contact button..would you do that for me? for your rosie?
Fish: Who cares?
by Rosie T. on Wed Jul 16, 2008 04:06 PM PDTThe people below you who I care about care.
Du-uh.
That was a no-brainer.
Rosie
Rosie. I invented this genre
by AnonymousNC (not verified) on Wed Jul 16, 2008 03:00 PM PDTRosie. I invented this genre and even I know when it's time to chill!
WHO CARES??? Believe it or not, the world DOES NOT revolve around your blogs on this site. And your incessant fight for the freedom of Iran (for which every Iranian is greatful). Your belief in the Internet to connect us Iranians (and a few clingon kharejis such as yourself) is bringing me to my knees.
GO OR STAY BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP UPDATING US EVERY 2 HOURS. SHEEEEEESH
This is not drama, it's madness and you my dear are NOT a queen.
I swear to God I'm saying this with love. Take it easy. You matter very little, even to you FRIENDS who say otherwise. This is the internet. Not high school.
And it's turning into a disease.
Your majesty !
by ebi amirhosseini on Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:06 AM PDTWe are pleased with your decision!!.
best wishes
I respect your decision
by Kouroush Sassanian on Wed Jul 16, 2008 01:09 PM PDTI respect your decision Golgolan. I should say I am glad you intend to stay, as you are the only one that prays with her legs and admits it.
P.S. American Wife knows not prayers with her legs for she knows not me! :-)
Hmmmm....
by American Wife (not verified) on Wed Jul 16, 2008 09:15 AM PDTI'm not sure how to take "special thanks" while associated with Souri... don't know diddly about Kouroush. Jeez, I quoted Carole King... I thought it was an honor...:-).
Now, if it had been Dylan, you'd KNOW you were in high cotton.
Irregardless, I too am done with this subject. I wish you all the best in whatever you decide. I'm familiar with pain myself. It's exhausting and crippling. I've stared into the abyss and seen the reflection of my soul. I'd rather not take a peek into someone else's. Respect doesn't necessarily equate to like or love.
I wish you a healthy soul and a happy mind. Take care.
Q, I intend to refres and advance my Persian with materials Ebi
by Rosie T. on Wed Jul 16, 2008 08:49 AM PDTkindly referred me to for my level, which is intermediate, and readi and researchi materials and topics on Iran recommended to me by my political friends here with whom I intend to continue to maintain contact with off-site via e-mail and phone., as usual.
And naturally living my private and professional life. As usual.
Robin
Yes?
by Q on Wed Jul 16, 2008 08:35 AM PDTQumars...I...
?
It's good. I like your plan. What will you do in the two months?
I DIDN'T SAY I WAS STAYING FISH OH
by Rosie T. on Wed Jul 16, 2008 09:13 AM PDTI SAID I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO RETURN, NOT STAY, BECAUSE IT IS THEWISH OF MANY PEOPLE I RESPECT HERE, BUT ONLY UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THAT I UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO CREATE YET ONE LAST BLOG TO ADDRESS THEM.
Now, you are a fish. I don't think you can wear glasses in an aquarium. Can you possibly get magnifying goggles so you can read better?
Oh, and btw Oh, my name is not "she". My name is Robin Jayne Goldsmith and my screen name is Rosie T., and I am also sometimes known as Roxane.(Roushan).
Roushanam,
Rosie.
OH
by I knew!!! (not verified) on Wed Jul 16, 2008 06:27 AM PDTNOOOOOOOOOOO, she is staying!
I will not click on you anymore, and this is true ,unlike your goodbys.