می بخور، منبر بسوزان - مردم آزاری نکن

If you pay the way

count me in, otherwise talk is cheap.

way too many revolutionaries in this site, in words only of course.

Shazde - Another Bulls Eye

You done it again. Right to the heart of the matter. With all none-freedoms you mentioned, I would add an express one:

What happens to you, if you're an athiest and state so. I bet even some IC participants have to consider that before deceiding how to react, let alone IRI. 

Mamane-Omid

Shazdeh

You've got a mighty pen there. I know you can do better, so do it ! 

PS. It's not up to us, non Iranians, to write. We just follow the ride. ;o) 

لطف دوستان زیاد

Mardom dear: they are perhaps trying to destroy the West from within, e.g. like some sort of sleeping cell??

AI: thanks, you are too kind.

Divaneh jan: Sepaas for your extended list and good obeservations. One day, IRI will add to those freedoms and may even become another Somalia, Ensha-al-Shaytaan!

Rea dear: Here is the flute ... if you can play better, be my guest;-)

Love the picture ;o)

As for the rest, I'd like to see something new, original.

More freedom

Shazde Jan there are plenty of other forms of freedom to add to the list and in support of the comment by the freedom loving IRI supporter:

- The freedom to spend the oil revenue and national wealth in any form that they wish without any accountability.

- The freedom to make up the number of votes instead of counting.

- The freedom to decide what god wants and force it on people.

- The freedom to kill and rape.

- The freedom to confiscate people's property with different excuses.

The list of freedoms enjoyed in Iran is endless.

I love your blogs Shazdeh!

Good Stuff.

Dear Shazdeh,

What I cannot catch is why if IRI is the epicenter of freedom on earth, these IRI lovers are all parked in Hell (the West)?

Dear Red Wine

I have just checked that message. It is magnificant. Please post it on I.C. - people will love it.

Thanks for your kind attention to my petty request.

not me, Jesus has saved me

I wanna have all the vices of the world in my finger tips, and I already have them.

best and excess of everything.

Then  Jesus will save me from my sins, or imam 12 for that fact.

I am SAVED, oh lord I am saved,  no worries.

mc coy

let's put a referendum  first   IRR   OUT (na ye kalameh kamtar,na ye kalame bishtar).       

the only real democracy will be in pulgatorio as Dante put it in his divine comedy  and its called  INFERNO!!  ENTERATE.            Maziar

"God is a Reasonable entity"

Indeed.

But even a reasonable God won't forgive those who have reduced him to a"commodity".

It's a divine blessing for me to have people like you around, Shazdeh.

Brother Khalifeh

Thanks for your book reference.

As for the "watch and the watch maker" logic, you can refer to the rebuttals provided by e.g. Kant and Russell (//www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0415325102).

Logic cannot prove or disprove God. More importantly, such a "proven" god cannot be God anymore! Faith in God belongs to the realm of spirituality, not logic or science. It is something that we feel, not something that we see or can prove with senses or logic.

For example, I believe in the God of Life and Reason, with no proof and no need for a proof whatsoever. That God keeps me almost sane and secure in a humane belief, and sometimes guides me in what I do. I don't talk to him and he doesn't talk to me. I don't believe that he has "talked" to anyone, or scribed any books or edicts, other than the reasonable book of life.

But I believe that God is within all of us at all times; is what we refer to as the being or Life. I also believe that God is a Reasonable entity, one that we can feel its presence through our ability to reason. But we cannot, or even need not prove its being, by our ability to argue.

My pipe dream, VPK

I like your political model. My ultimate wish, however, is living in a truly democratic society.

I have never lived under a democratic regime, all my life. Iran was and is a political dictatorship, and here is run by a financial dictatorship.

Real McCoy

Not just monarchy and IRI. I am not an expert in writing referendums. If it ever gets to it I like to see a Secular Democracy. Personally I favor a parliamentary system with proportional representation. With a PM that has the power and a figure head president. All elected for terms between 2-6 years. Maybe an upper and lower house.

One thing I don't want it any vetting of candidates. No more disqualifying people just because someone in power does not like them.

I handed to you Sargord

You are an emotion-less supporter of Islamic rapist republic of masjid-o-mostaraah, you and people like you in Iran are killing with out any emotions and you asking why people of Iran are filled with emotion after 31 years of Rapes and killings, I guess we should get use to it as you are. 

"One like Benross wants"

Choosing between IRI, and monarchy? With no other option on the ballot?

Sargord

Lets assume the referendum 31 years ago was valid (which it was not). Does that mean that for the rest of eternity IRI gets to be in power? Most of Iranian people were not even born there. Must they suffer for the stupidity of their parents? How about a new referendum?

Seriously I challenge IRI and its supporters. How about a new free and internationally supervised referendum. One like Benross wants.

Excellent as always. I

Excellent as always. I would add a 4 more items to the list.

1. Free to be a pedophile and marry 9-year old girls

2. Free to stone women and men

3. Free to line your  pockets with oil revenues and Iranian national wealth and invest in Canada or Dubai.

4. Free to stay unfree and ignorant

sargord

point taken. i did know that, but didn't think of it, and it is true.

 i suppose it is all relative; at the height of refugee intake the condition of women in afghanistan was much worse, and personal safety of women in iraq is among the worst. and i bet even now the health and technology situation in iran is much better than iraq as well as afghanistan. it's all relative.

you are right to give credit where it is due.

however, (as i continually insist about my own country) i also think that rather than rest on laurels and settle for 'ok' or 'better than the worst', one ought to strive for the ultimate, and in the case of iri at a minimum to do away with tenets a-f. at least in the opinion of the blogger and of many of the commenters on this thread.

of course i cannot speak for them or their opinions, but merely my impression of them.

and so, i maintain what i said in previous comment, and add that paidar iran's comment is very cleverly put.

shazde

i enjoyed your blog and the artwork. this character was either making a joke or he meant that iran is "the freest nation for clergy to kill, rape and plunder." 

also very astute observation by iran paidar.

Shazde Asdola Mirza Jan

I sent you a thing in your e-mail,please check it.

Thank you .

قدیمیا خوب گفتن

چوب رو که ور داری، گربه دُزده می‌ترسه...

Is this a response to a

Is this a response to a comment I made on another blog? If so, you've misquoted me. (No surprise, given this emotional rant of a post.) What I said was a revolution and democratically installed form of governance already took place 31 years ago. Do you dispute that? If you do, well no sense arguing with you: you're either ignorant or simply blind with hate.

humanbeing, that's an excellent suggestion! But you know what? In the case of the Islamic Republic of Iran, there have actually been millions who have signed up for "green cards" and have immigrated there. They have come from Afghanistan and Iraq. Yes, millions. And even though its been a burden, and the accommodations not exactly perfect, the Islamic Republic did it based solely on humanitarian grounds.

Brother, VPK

I hear you my brother. The well of superstition, and heresy has an emergency climbing system; if you look down, you'll see it. We are all brothers, and sisters after all. Some fortunate enough to be led, some misled. Allah will save us all Insha Allah.

BTW, brother VPK, whenever, you type my name in its abbreviation, watch your fingers very carefully, please!

KR

• What is this brother thing anyway?
• I put an Imam in the well last night myself and pulled out the rope. How did he get out? Did you pull him out! If so DON'T do it again. I need to keep up my Prophet image. The Imam was a part of my prophet act. Now please be a good KR and quit messing up my act will you?

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yolanda khanoom  that rule during Ramazan can easily be broken with a CRISP $ 5.00 bill for food or $20.00 for a 6packs delivered to your hotel room and the rest billed to your tab, telling you what I experinced in mamlekat Islami pakistan......

and I heard is the same in Iran;Hopefuly you will visit FREE IRAN and none of those rules will exist.           Maziar

Oh brothers, there is no imam in that well.

Your thoughtful comment then, might give rise to the doctrine of "Evolution of God". There is a not-so -bad book with the same title.

Since I only assume you are in Canada, I post this link.

In my mind there is one thing  for sure: It's hard to believe that if you throw all the parts, and pieces into the air, a Rolex® will eventually fall down into your hand.

What else can I say? What else can I do?

Dear Khalifeh

I don't have any problem with agreeing to your premise that "Shia is a sect based on fallacy, superstition and heresy", if only you would consider that:

Islam itself is a crazy sect, based on a distorted version of the old and dumb Jewish religion!

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It is very sad! I hope the person, who said Iran became free 31 years ago, read this blog! I wanted to see if I can survive over there....but I can't even get thru #1.....I have to eat every meal, everyday, and every month, simple food is OK. I will definitely find a chance visiting Iran ('cause people are great and there are many beautiful historical sites), but it won't be during Ramadan! It is too hard!

Thank you for your list!