Soosan Khanoom

Thanks Rea

I hope it's not taken as if I'm a bit of a misanthrope.

I talk to God(ess) all the time, yes ;-)

And She has quite a lot to say. You can also talk to Her if you want. 

The quote is an old, old one. I saw it for the first time years and years ago written on a bathroom wall while I was still in highschool and obsessed with the brilliant German!

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May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Zoroastrian prayer

Chapeau, Escape !

Some people can say a lot using very few words. La preuve!

Aryana, dear!

Interesting quote...but not original!! It seems that god has lost its creativity...or worse his originality....I never expected him to get offended by one of his creations...because anyway if He is god, then he is the one putting these ideas in Nietzsche's mind...:-)

BTW, where did you see this quote? 

Do you have a special connection with god? Does he talk to you sometimes? Has he published a new book recently where he writes about Nitezsche? I'd be interested in buying this one! But wait....As much as I remember you kept arguing that he hasn't written his last best seller ...:-) 

How do YOU know? 

Come on, Aryana! Don't be shy...Reveal your sources..:-)

Az.

God is dead - Nietzsche

Nietzsche is dead - God

Say's MAN!!!!!!!!!

  That's WHO!! 

or some

The first law in Biology

The first law in Biology states ,

"The structure goes with function "

There has to be a mind behind the creation ...... call it whatever you wish 

Thanks to rest of you as well for taking your time and commenting....   whether agree or not  !

Great post, Divaneh jan!

You should be kidding with your id choice! The basic IQ classification has different category of "divaaneh" (idiot: (0-19 IQ) Imbecile (20-49) and Moron (50-69 IQ)...But I think you are mostly between 120 -140 IQ, or highly intelligent category!!

Plus, I would love to have a copy of your new version of Quran! Mine somehow seems more adequate for the below 70 IQ!

divaneh

That is low man. Now you are fighting dirty. Discredit the book all you want but not through such mean and ill-intentioned sarcasm. Do it the Humane way, not that i am recommending it though, if you must.

Thank you everyone for

Thank you everyone for reading and commenting.   

>>>>>>>>>>> 

Datis ,

Thanks a bunch for giving me a break.... 

Hoshang jan ,

I take your recommendations to heart although I may not be agree on the Quran thingy with you.....

My dear Divaneh, 

I love your choice of verses.  

Mehman Aziz.....  you make me smile... the remake is so cool ......  thanks for the music  : )   

Thank you Soosan Khanoom

I was delighted by that example and can offer some more evidence that god taught the laws or gravity in Quran far before Newton. You have to excuse my poor translation.

Have they not looked at birds above them who have opened their wings. No one but god keeps them up there who can see everything. (67:19)

This is definitely about god protecting birds from gravity or they would fall on the ground and there would be no bird left. And it's not only gravity, look at this one.

And god created every animal from water. Some of them move on its belly, some walk on two feet and some walk on four feet. God creates whatever he wants (24:45)

I think this one teaches evolution far before Darwin claims it to be his idea.

Said whether an old woman like me with an old husband would give birth? This is bewildering. (11:72)

Artificial insemination, what else? You see everything is in Quran we only have to find them before kafirs beat us to it every time.

Maryam jan

What response?

Azarin is making a classic argumentative fallacy by appealing to authority. I don't care that Stephen Hawkings is a modern authority on physics. I find his arguments beside the point and rather shallow. He is not a philosopher or theologian either. Besides what exactly is his argument, anyway? I don't see much of one, really.

But arguments for the existence of first causes always lead nowhere because they are situated on the wrong level of demonstration IMHO. I can prove to you the existence of the Spirit and I won't use arguments. I'll let you experience It for yourself. 

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May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Zoroastrian prayer

Modern belief in God

seems to be stemming more out of alienation than anything else.

And by alienation I'm not just reffering to Marx's notion, but also the psycho-analytical version, such as Lacan. The latter locates human alienation not only in our fragmented social being , but also in the very language we use to communicate/distort things to each other.

Does anyone remember that song by John Lennon: Imagine.

Imagine, if there was no alienation, no need for God or any other superior being!

Soosan Khanoom:

Soosan Khanoom: Read Jewish Philosopher Maimonides' writings and books:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maimonides

Stephen Hawking can't use physics to answer...

//www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/sep/03/physics-science-theology-universe#post-area

The gravitation  and

The gravitation  and Einstein's theory or relativity are both disucssed in Torah...Einstein did study the Torah.

Mohammad just copied what was already in the Torah.

Khanoom jan, why so defensive?

Sossan Khanoon aziz, two short recommendations from your humble servant, if I may:

1) Get yourself a copy of National Geographics map of the Universe. Yes, this IS THE MAP OF THE UNIVERESE. It's an amazing piece of geographic mapping, outer space, and then tell me if you think there is one/there could be one single cause behind this thing we call, the universe.

2) When you're in mood for something really refreshing, read some Espinoza. All those other books, torah, bible, koran, are just so outdated.

And have a great weekend, cheers

-Hoshang

Creepy Blog

Creepy comments.

Maryam

Good afarin to Azarin.

Datis

Wasn't he who said: "Punctuation is for Donkeys" ?!!

tanx for liking the post!

Azarin

Good response to Aryana.

I give you a break!

Soosan Khanoom - I give you a break!

Mehman - I always thought it was only Khomeini who could go on for ever without using punctuation; you kicked his arse! Nice post by the way:)

LOL

And to think all that great poetry I keep posting on fb still hasn't convinced you :-) I have other ingenius methods of proving such big question issues, and you should know me better than that by now.

See you on fasadbook. It's more fun over there anyway ;-)

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May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Zoroastrian prayer

Aryana "joon"

Oh dear...please don't get me started! First of all, we supposedly don't know each other (wink wink)...so please don't "joon" me and act more seriously!

Second, Hawkins is an authority in the field no matter whjat you can claim. And the extent of today's physics has nothing to do with the physics at Newton's time or even Einstein's. My comment was a direct answer to the bloggers funny quote from Quran. And I was just teasing her..:-)

 Kidding aside, everyone knows that god is not a scientific concept. The same way you can't dismiss it you can't prove it either. But I am kind of amused to see the religious people fuming...they take everything so seriously! And you're not an exception!

Of course I know that you're dying to prove the existence of god based on some obscure branch of your Bhuddist/Hindo/Islamo/Judiasm/christian/etc./sufism, but I'm sure you should have known me by now. I don't buy it.

See you on fb, Az.

God(head) *is* the Universe

Azarin joon, FYI, Einstein and Newton both were believers in a higher Cause. Newton studied Kabbalah and Alchemy alongside his science, and Einstein's avid interest in Indian metaphysics is well known. Stephen Hawkins is not in either Newton's or Einstein's league. The guy has never impressed me much. Anyway, the God of the religious believer and God of the philosopher-metaphysician are practically two different Deities.

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May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Zoroastrian prayer

Relax! Hawkins is not for you..

Funny blog! It was pretty entertaining to see someone so out of her element! I guess the science of physics is not your field of expertise. Please don't worry if you don't get Hawkins, or Einstein...I am pretty sure that you don't even get Newton...;-)  

Actually ...

All kidding aside ;) - ! ... I was told by a dear friend of mine who is a Hindu, that he knows from reliable sources (!!!), that the Universe was created by the God Vishnu, while a lotus (flower) is emanating from his navel ... :) - !

And, that each time Vishnu opens his eyes, a new Universe comes about, and that each time he closes his eyes, that Universe diappears and gets destroyed :) - !!!

Well, go figure :) :) :) - I guess as good as Einstein, etc., etc. :) - !

soosan khanoom

you have a problem with scientists who believe in god (or bible) if their findings confirm what's in the holy book.  and you have a problem with scientists who don't believe in god if their findings contradict what's in the holy book.  i can talk about other problems such as scientists believing in god even when their findings contradict a holy book and vice versa but it seems you already have many problems.

asimov and einstein may be great physicists but i wouldn't hold my breath when they offer opinions ouside of their expertise.  but that's just me. :)

Sousan Khanoom

The fact is that the development of the universe from the big bang until now could be explained by mere scientific cause and effect relations and even though human science would not be able to explain every single details due to the lack of progress in scientific data it does not mean that there is no scientific explanation but as to the fact that there must be an external cause for the creation and sustenance of the universe or the first form of matter I should say that this is beyond the knowledge of man in his present state of mind hence it is not possible to be proven yet you might take it as a possibility albeit remote like imagining a monster exists with 3 heads behind the zagross mountains and quoting some mountaineers who have actually seen the monster it is possible but with very remote probability or credibility same with god in scientific terms hard to prove yet intuition and personal feelings give you a feeling that the possibility of one omnipotent creator is not that remote which you might be justified but can not prove take care good night and have a nice and punctuated weekend khosghel khanoum abrou kamoun cheshm assali sousan khanoum.

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