New McCarthy-like Congressional hearings about Muslims in America

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Soosan Khanoom
by Soosan Khanoom
08-Mar-2011
 

One day shall come that being a muslim is a crime and you have to deny even being one to avoid jail.

What I am posting here and blogging about may actually make many Islam haters on IC happy and ready to attack as usual. I do expect nothing from these death to Islam crowd of IC. I should say do not even bother !!

I only ask those who cares , muslim or non muslim , religious or non religious ones to be a voice for the voiceless. Let it be written that at this time of the history the target is no longer Jews or Communists but it is " ISLAM "

New McCarthy-like Congressional hearings beginning this Thursday about Muslims in America

//www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/06/congress-...

Congress To Hold Hearings On Muslim Threat

Things may get worse, Rep. Peter King (R-NY), Chair of the Homeland Security Committee of the House of Representatives, is holding McCarthy-like Congressional hearings beginning this Thursday on the "Radicalization of American Muslims."

Quite a bit of the proposed witness list has looked like a who's who of Islamophobes,
and we Muslim Americans are holding our collective breath waiting for the fallout from these hearings.

We wonder: will we see more hate mobs outside our mosques or events due to hysteria being whipped up by these hearings?

It's certainly possible, and Muslims around the country are strategizing on how to respond to protect our faith community from more bigoted protests,
or even dangerous attacks on our places of worship and individuals.

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//www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/06/congress-...

A Minnesota Democrat, congressman Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to the House,

says that while it's proper to investigate radicalization, he thinks it is wrong to single out a religious minority.

"I worry about it," he said on the program. "Everybody I talk to worries about it, and we're concerned about the breadth of this."

He added, "It's absolutely the right thing to do for the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee to investigate radicalization,

but to say we're going to investigate a religious minority, and a particular one, I think is the wrong course of action to take."

On Sunday, groups opposed to King's hearings plan to rally in New York. President Barack Obama's deputy national security adviser

will speak on the administration's approach to countering domestic radicalization.

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The Muslim Family Response to Hatred

//www.huffingtonpost.com/kari-ansari/the-musl...

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Khanoom Soosan

by Doctor mohandes on

now to those Islam basher do not bother  with your hand picked verses of Quran and stop copying and pasting it  each time I show up ......  I know them all ........ I have read the entire books of all these three religions .... and if you are looking for violent verses and you happen to run out just search the bible ( new and old one ) and there you have it

You are Lying to tell me that you have all threee books of all religions. That is really the Biggest lie of this Freaking century! I guess sometimes when you let yourself go, You just go all the way ha?!!!

 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Roozbeh

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

Once islamist regime is overthrown, it's leadership and hardcore supporters tried and punished for their crime against  humanity,

That is the first requirement. As long as IR; Taliban; AQ  and the like exist Islam will be vilified. 

Over time muslims will be treated like other religious minorities and not a bunch of terrorists.

It took decades and a generation to get Islam so hated. In the 1960s Westerners had a romantic notion of Islam. Public figures  such as Cat Stevens were  becoming Muslim. Now after IR; AQ; and Taliban no one wants to be associated with it. Most Iranians in the West will not even say they are Muslims. Some are to ashamed; others just lost faith.

If Islam wants to survive it better get its act together. By going around and blaming the messenger they will not get there.They must stop complaining and start improving.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Islam did

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it to itself. Folks it is the actions of Muslims that has brought this upon them.  I would think that we shall see a movement to reclassify Islam. Not a religion but a cult. This will let the USA remove constitutional protection from Islam.

When you see what Islam has done to the West it is not a surprise. If it were not for Islamic actions we would not need all this airport security. No requirement for inspecting every single cargo shipped into USA. Do you know what that costs America?

Of course they should have hearings on the danger of Islam. In fact it would be insane not to. I thank King for making this move. In my view Islam should be treated just as it treats other people. How tolerant are Muslim nations towards non Muslims specially those not "of the book? What do they do with openly atheist people? What do they do if you leave Islam. My dear Muslims need to learn the hard way: action have consequences. Behave civilized or be treated as savages.

How about this:

  • Stop blowing things up.
  • Stop threatening others.
  • Stop your intolerance.

Then maybe other nations will start treating Muslims with respect.


Mash Ghasem

This hearing has already backfired on King

by Mash Ghasem on

But you still  haven't explained why you have posted comments in here directed to Iranian women that are just totally preverted. Isn't perversion a no, no in Islam.

You also haven't explained why more Palestinians have been killed by Arabs than jews?

And who died and made you (a preverted male) the spokesperson for muslims? and do get a life.


Soosan Khanoom

MG

by Soosan Khanoom on

I am not wasting my time on any one here ....... I am actually learning a lot from this new discovered Iranian community on web ......  I have no idea who is who and I have no experience much here on this site ..... I am starting to find my way through ... like Alice in wonderland .....

I do not see many like Nasrudin here ........  we need different point of views and that is what he brings ......I have not seen him insult Islam or any other religion ...... and i respect him for that matter

 Now in terms of his foolish questions of who lives where and what is the add etc ...... that pissed me off ..... but not more than any other here with their once in a while foolish remarks ....... 

I have found IC a place for the Islam bashers ......... who are willing to do anything to bring any conversation  in bashing the religion ........ and i found out that there is almost no one here having the guts to confront them for their foolish behavior ........ I lived most of my life in west and  have never seen such hate towards this religion as much as i see here .......  I am not saying not to argue your points ... I am not saying you should be a believer ... I just do not see any reason to be so fool to talk like that ...... they are suffering from certain syndrome and they need to be cured ..... otherwise all that hate will kill them ........ they seriously need some professional help ... even those who have been raped by church do not have such a hate in them concerning Jesus as these people have towards prophet .......    nothing they do or say will change the fact that the majority of people in Iran are muslim ......... and at least they can respect their own people ... but this is my last time talking about this issue ..... 

now to those Islam basher do not bother  with your hand picked verses of Quran and stop copying and pasting it  each time I show up ......  I know them all ........ I have read the entire books of all these three religions .... and if you are looking for violent verses and you happen to run out just search the bible ( new and old one ) and there you have it   

 


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Mollah

by Doctor mohandes on

I understand why you are working so hard.

You are carrying the weight for All the "absentists" . The ones whoseparvandeh was given to them and sent on their way.

Ya Hussain. Ya mir mccarthy.


Mola Nasredeen

Mashdi,

by Mola Nasredeen on

you wrote: "And who the heck is this lose"

With all due respect your spelling of 'LOUSE' is incorrect. You see 'lose' is a verb but 'louse' is an insect, I thought I had to correct it. 

I hope you forgive me for disrespecting you.  

P.S. by the way the Muslims Witch Hunt Hearings will start tomorrow in New York. Don't forget to pay attention and make your own contribution to put them evil American Mulims in their place.  


Mash Ghasem

Sosan, why you're wasting your time with this loser?

by Mash Ghasem on

This character is the most morally perverse, politically bankrupt, practically irrelevant charcter out here.

Few days back, he saw an avatar of a female bare shoulder, you wouldn't belive the kind of crap he posted, very pious muslim indeed. Sounded rather as a rapist in the wings.

For all his "advocacy" of Palestine, in his obtuse little world he can never explainor understand why more Palestinians have been killed by Arabs than jews?

And who the heck is this lose?  Per DM's observation " the range" of  his vocabulary is so primitive and pathetic  your read one, you've read all.

And everyone says he abuses his shotor.

Typical perverted, repressed, religious two bit punk.


Soosan Khanoom

Nasrudin

by Soosan Khanoom on

what are these craps?

why are you asking these questions? .............  who cares ?  they swear for what ?    

 


Mola Nasredeen

What

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is McCarthyism?

Joseph McCarthy was an American senator (a few decades back) who started a witch hunt in the United States.

"During the McCarthy era, thousands of Americans were accused of being Communists or communist sympathizers and became the subject of aggressive investigations and questioning before government or private-industry panels, committees and agencies.

 The primary targets of such suspicions were government employees, those in the entertainment industry, educators and Union activists.

Suspicions were often given credence despite inconclusive or questionable evidence, and the level of threat posed by a person's real or supposed leftist associations or beliefs was often greatly exaggerated.

Many people suffered loss of employment, destruction of their careers, and even imprisonment. Most of these punishments came about through trial verdicts later overturned, laws that would be declared unconstitutional, dismissals for reasons later declared illegal or actionable or extra-legal procedures that would come into general disrepute."

Thus congressman Peter King's actions against American Muslims is compared with Joseph McCarthy's action.

"P.S. Soosan khanoom, the reason he asks them these questions and 'all these crap' is because it's their level of intellect and understanding of the subject at hand. He has to lower himself to their level." Said Hazrate shotor.

 


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Simorgh and Molla

by Doctor mohandes on

Molla

Quit halucinating. Dammit. Told you go easy on that pack of pills. The pharmacist is about to throw a fit. No more f.. Refills.

You see. It is your obsession that has put your mind in a lockdown phase. No matter what happens you only see what you want to see. Like coming up with a string of Nonsense. You have a mind that is more dangerous and more reactionary that Charles manson.

Simorgh

I think Nutcase Christians right wingers take the prize in pushing their stuff and wanting people to seek salvation more than muslims . I believe the Mollah and Imams got nothingon Those pasteurs and reverents and ...


Mola Nasredeen

Now,

by Mola Nasredeen on

You raise your right hand

and swear on this holy book

that you'll be tellin the truth

the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Have you ever been a member of a Zionist organization?

Do you or anyone who you know is a member of a Zionist organization?

We need their names, their activities, their position, their addresses and where they work.

Now repeat: Help me God.


Simorgh5555

Mola

by Simorgh5555 on

Its simple. If Muslims in America are really concerned about being persecuted then they should keep a low profile, stop preaching about their religion and attempting to convert others to their religion. Better still, they should try to educate themselves about the Islamic death cult whose prophet married a nine year old at the ripe old age of 55 and ordered hands and heads to be cut off because the angel Gabriel told him to do so. 


Mola Nasredeen

You need to answer the question:

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McCarthyism style:

Are you or have you ever been a camel jock?

Are you or have you ever been a member of a camel jocks organization?

Do you know any camel jock?

We need their names and addresses, their position, and where they work.


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Molla

by Doctor mohandes on

You have no idea what Proof is let alone recognizing when someone is proving anything to you (which by the way i was not)

I lurk around here?? LOL ok you delusional boy.

You are a Known IC - shahrdar. Mr. mayor. Your reputation has already been established. Bloggers say Jump and you say how high. That is how much of a lurker you have been, But that is ok. Every one here has been on your tail and frustrating the heck out of you by debunking your BS one after the other and you are experiencing Third degree soozesh. So it is cool. I let you heal.

Hala hey vase khodet Kor kori Gher gherehkon.

PS. Oh wait. Did you Just call me a camel Jock??? What? You of all people who claims to be against racism and Bigotry???

Yeah I know You work!!! LOL You missed that spot on that table and there is a smudge on that lady's glass.

 


Soosan Khanoom

RB

by Soosan Khanoom on

Get your facts straight please ....... Muslims object to the actions of the extremists more than non-Muslims .....

The real question is who has helped these extremists to be such a loud voice in the world today?   

This has nothing to do with 911 ...... educated people in the U.S knew about the truth and prevent these prejudices to even have a voice. 

How is it that this is coming now a decade after that incident and after all those invasions and wars that the Neocon clowns performed? 

Now you are right U.S is the best Country to live in for people with different religions and we want to keep it that way by standing against any action that is suggesting that America should do otherwise   

 


Mola Nasredeen

First,

by Mola Nasredeen on

DM,

By your comments alone

you proved to be

just another bigot

a camel jock bigot.

P.S. Some of us have to work and make a living, unlike you who is lurking around here 24/7.


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Molla

by Doctor mohandes on

Get a LIFE, seriiously.

How ignorant can you be?? He is damn right there are way too many mosques in this country? How many churches does your beloved IR allows to be built in iran and what % of the population is allowed to FREELY and with no restrictions practice their own faith?? are you crazy or have you taken way too much Prozac today? You know that sh... Could have side effects.

 


Reality-Bites

Molla

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Going by the multiple comments you've already posted on this issue (and doubtless with more to come), you appear to be getting somewhat overexcited by this topic, so please don't take my following comment as any kind of slight to your faith.

First a question, does stating that there are too many mosques in a country (any country) automatically equate to "hate mongering"? if so, why?

Second, the 8 million Muslims in the US are not required, i.e. legally or otherwise, to "deal with" any bigots. In a country like the US where there is actually proper rule of law, based on a legal system which, while not perfect (but then neither is any other legal system), is independent and generally fair. Muslims can, if they should decide, deal with any bigotry directed towards them legally. Which is a lot more than one can say for minorities in many Muslim countries.

There are bigots in every country around the world, including the US. You can always find them, if you look hard enough. But the US (a country that I don't live in, btw) is certainly one of the better ones for minorities and that is precisely why I made my earlier post about why so many Muslims wish to move and live there.

If we go by the overreaction and hyperbole of the article here and elsewhere, calling this inquiry "McCarthy-like" and Islam becoming banned in the US, which infers life must be getting so bad for Muslims in the US, then presumably you wouldn't have the 8 million of your fellow Muslims living there with many millions more dreaming of joining them, would you?

The biggest terrorist atrocity on the US soil, by far, was carried out by extremist Muslims and in the name of Islam. Muslims, including those who have been granted US citizenship, have continued to plot attacks on the US soil. They would murder you on the spot for the perception of even the slightest offence to Islam (whether or not any offence was intended) and be deliriously happy about it. We are talking about hate-filled people who pour into the streets, screaming for blood and threatening to decapitate others simply for drawing a cartoon of the head of their faith, for crying out loud. You want bigotry? That's your bigotry right there.

Clearly there is a huge problem here, both in the continuing determination and ploting of the extremists to attack America and the silence/inaction of many law abiding Muslims to confront the extremism within their community. Just look your own reaction and Soosan Khoonam's to these hearings. You are not concerned about the poison of Islamic extremism and intolerance that has led to the hearings in the first place, but that Americans (in their own country, let's keep in mind) are holding these hearings at all.

There are people from many different faiths that live in America. Have you asked yourself why there are no hearings on Buddhists, Shintos, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Bahais, Taoists, Sikhs, Jainists etc? I'll give you a clue, the followers of these faiths are not actively trying to murder Americans, unlike extremist Muslims.

Of course no one should suffer from bigotry. Law abiding and peaceful Muslims should be no exception. But America has every right to hold these hearings when the threat it is facing is real and clear. If a group of extremists from a minority religion had smashed passenger planes into buildings full of innocent people in a Muslim country, killing thousands, you can forget about any hearings. Chances are, the members of that minority, including the innocents, wouldn't live long enough to protest their innocence, let alone be subject to any hearings.

Islam has a huge problem with the rising tide of violent and intolerant extremism within it. If you guys are the good Muslims and wish for peaceful co-existence, then you need to tackle this urgently and vigorously, instead of taking exception to every critical act/comment and yelling "anti-Islam bigotry" when non-Muslims object to the actions of your extremists.


Mola Nasredeen

A few notes...

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about Congressman Peter King

and his views about Muslims in America:

"In 2004, King claimed in an interview that "no American Muslim leaders are cooperating in the war on terror," and that "80-85 percent of mosques in this country are controlled by Islamic fundamentalist. This is an enemy living amongst us."

"The Council on American-Islamic Relations denounced the comments as "Islamophobic bigotry and the Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe called on President Bush to "condemn this latest example of hate-filled language"

Hatemongering Peter King believes "there are too many mosque in the United States"

So Soosan Khanoom, this is the bigot that 8 million American Muslims have to deal with. But he will have to confront a united front by the law abiding, peaceful, successful Muslim Americans.


Soosan Khanoom

How Do You Solve a Problem Like Sharia?

by Soosan Khanoom on

 

How Do You Solve a Problem Like Sharia? 

 

//www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-march-8-2011/peter-king-wants-to-investigate-any-american-muslim-who-is-not-actively-stopping-terrorist-plots- 


Soosan Khanoom

But Raoul1955 dear

by Soosan Khanoom on

 What is all these Shria law fox news craps ?

Hallal Meat = Kosher Meat

So you are suggesting Jews are next to go ......  ok now I can not take it ..... you have crossed the line ...... . you are obviously an Anti-Semitic ..... please be careful and be wise in your remarks !

 


Raoul1955

Here are the most

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Raoul1955

Soosan

by Raoul1955 on

I believe that we should treat muslims the way muslims treat non-muslims in those muslim-majority countries.

You write:
"...One day shall come that being a muslim is a crime and you have to deny even being one to avoid jail."

I certainly hope that one day our legislators will amend our Constitution to make it illegal to promote or be a member of any ideological group that promotes any type of apartheid, or worse yet, promotes the overthrow of our secular pluralistic democracy. And if such comes to pass, then promoting sharia [being a muslim] will be considered seditious and muslims have to be neutralized.

allah-akbar to you now.  :-)  


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Molla

by Doctor mohandes on

You wish you could hit a nerve and get me irritated. I will eat people like you up for breakfast buddy boy.

No i have not been called a camel jockey but i can see that by your "firebrand" methods and radical tactic and tart tongue, YOU will be the one who would eventually PUSHnormal peace loving folks, and aggrevate them to make that move. It always has and always will start with such behavior that you are displaying here: Fake advocacy. Kind of like keeping the fire going underneath the ashes. Yeah . that is the kind of person you seem to be!

You like to always talk a good talk But you have got no game since all you do is basically repeating the exact same word for word material that you write in every single blog and that is the way losers do it.

ELS

Regarding your suggestion in terms of deportation, You know i am sure there are some hard core dummies who would not mind at all, bundling all those muslims and Illegal aliens from Mexico into one package and as they say in their redneck accent : Put'em all damn Mexicans On a boat and send them all back home. Darn it!

But it would be a very difficult thing to do, even as Mehrdad suggest they try and come up with a solid definition, Because whether the Right wing idiots like it or not, Most congressmen and senator tend to err on the side of constitution and fairness. It has been proven time and time again.


Soosan Khanoom

Thank you everyone for

by Soosan Khanoom on

Thank you everyone for taking your time reading my blog and commenting on it ....... I may disagree with some comments here but as long as we agree to disagree then we should be fine 

and MG where R U ? R U back from jogging ? 

 

Peace to all of you  :) 


Soosan Khanoom

AMIR1973

by Soosan Khanoom on

what IRI did to Bahaee followers is so shameful and has no justification ...... but again that is iRI .. what do you expect? ..... on the daily basis they label even their own ex-leaders as " Mohareb ba Khoda " and jail or even kill them ...... I am agree with you on that 100 percent .......

But do not put your hope on American constitution either..... who knows what we are going to witness in the future .......  !  The neocons are willing to do anything and the last thing that they care about is constitution !


Soosan Khanoom

I agree Nasrudin .........

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I agree Nasrudin ......... that is one sure possible reason for it ...... 

Can you not see how they are dealing with Obama? Despite the fact that he keeps denying being a muslim ... these neocons bringing it up again and again

...... no one sees the trick behind this accusation ....... 

I once asked one of his opponents........ So what ? Suppose he is muslim ? what difference does it make? ......  He had nothing to say ...... absolutely nothing ........ 


Mola Nasredeen

Here is an interesting

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take on why the hatemongers of the Republican party are staging their demonization of American Muslims:

"Scholars point to a rising level of activism and civic engagement among young Muslims in America, distinct from religious extremism. They see more volunteering on political campaigns, voter-registration drives outside mosques and interest in civil rights, in contrast to older generations whose primary concern was U.S. foreign policy.

The founders and leaders of mosques are the ones driving this civic participation, said Sally Howell, associate professor at the University of Michigan-Dearborn and author of several books and essays on Arabs and Muslims in Detroit. "Their main motives are to make sure that their children are becoming good Muslims but at the same time becoming good Americans," Associated Press report on Yahoo.com

And so the bigots and hatemongers are very upset, they would prefer if Muslims stays out of politics and civic participation.


Soosan Khanoom

Back to the topic ....................

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The intent of this hearing is not to uncover any hidden truth. ............. seriously, does anyone really think representative Peter King's hearings will unearth information not already known to the intelligence agencies? .............. of course it won't.

This stunt will, however, generate even more racial and religious fear and hatred in a country that was once known for religious tolerance.............. men like Peter King would shred the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights in order to "save" America from U.S. citizens who follow the faith of Islam.

When asked about accusations by groups that he is a modern-day McCarthy........ King responded that he considers the attacks a " badge of honor." 

This moron is too stupid to know that McCarthy was an embarassment to this country and even accused President Eisenhower of being a Communist. 

Back in 1492, the Inquisitors considered attacks upon them as a "badge of honor", too..............

...... McCarthy chaired the House of un-American activities. ........ the current inquisition staged by Rep. King is exactly the same ....... an un-American activity. ...........It's a shameless display of religious bigotry and a shameful image to present to the Islamic world.