God & Religion

varjavand
by varjavand
19-Sep-2010
 

In his new book entitled The Grand Design, Steven Hawking argues that the modern physics has progressed to the point where it "leaves no place for God in the creation of the universe."  He says, “It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going.”  While this is not a new argument, since it is postulated by a world renowned physicist, it has become a sensational news attraction in recent days. Hard to fathom, but despite all the unraveling of modern sconce, people everywhere have still held on to their belief of God and religion are reluctant to let go of it. Even in a country like the US where hedonistic values govern almost every aspect of our lives, belief in God is as robust as ever.  According to a recent gallop poll, overall, 78% of Americans believe in God and 15% in a higher spirit. What is it that draws us to God and religion despite all the modern discoveries that seemingly negate their influence?

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Escape

The only modern discoveries

by Escape on Tue Sep 21, 2010 04:42 AM PDT

  I can think of is the recently found Missing Link between Man and Monkey.


//iranian.com/main/blog/shazde-asdola-mirza/monkey-has-landed


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Escape

The answer is spirit..

by Escape on Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:32 PM PDT

Does it really leave one so puzzled? I guess it would make sense to puzzle those who believe the universe 'popped' out of nowhere. But 'Uber' Creation' nonsense is certainly a dumber idea than believing in God.

“It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going.”

Let me finish the statement...'However it is certainly necessary to have the blue touch paper."


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varjavand

Salam Niloufar,

by varjavand on Mon Sep 20, 2010 02:02 PM PDT

Good to see your comments again, thanks. You are absolutely
correct. It is also fascinating to see many other plausible explanations
especially by evolutionary psychologists including human’s need to see a purpose
in everything, conforming to the norms of society formed on the bases of fictitious
kinship for survival, inherent predisposition to falsehood, and etc.


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Niloufar Parsi

salam varjavand khan

by Niloufar Parsi on Mon Sep 20, 2010 01:12 PM PDT

great question!

my suggested answer, in one word: fear.

fear of the unknown. and as the boundary of the unknown recedes, so does the reach of god. god should eventually lose to science. inshallah :)


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Dirty Angel

I have no idea

by Dirty Angel on Sun Sep 19, 2010 04:29 PM PDT

you see I figured out that there was something very fishy about *god* at the age of four!

But it might have something to do with patterns, placebo and security that makes some perverse human beings not be content with struggles with nature and diseases, but want to add gods and other demons to the mix for extra comfort.

 

"The paradox of freedom: sometimes people freely choose not to be free."


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reader1

God has nothing to do with religion …

by reader1 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:55 PM PDT

Religions are just ancient myths handed down from generation to generation and then packaged into faiths, rituals and traditions -  some with better packaging than others!  Hawking does not talk about religion but argues that God had no role in the creation of the universe. He previously suggested that  the Big Bang may have had a divine intervention but now he has changed his mind and argues that Big Bang was inevitable due to the law of gravity.


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varjavand

R2-D2

by varjavand on Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:45 PM PDT

Thanks for the information


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R2-D2

varjavand

by R2-D2 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:19 PM PDT

I watched this facinating program on C-SPAN2 (BookTv) this morning:

Debate: Does Atheism Poison Everything? with Christopher Hitchens and David Berlinski

It'll be re-broadcast tonight, Sunday, September 19th at 10pm (ET) -

If you miss the show on TV tonight, then you can watch it on-line at the same link that I have given above in a day or two -

P.S. The wit of Christopher Hitchens is amazing .. !

 

 


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Sahameddin Ghiassi

آیا دین های الهی قدرت و توانایی ساختن انسانهایی بهتر را دارند

Sahameddin Ghiassi
Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:54 AM PDT

آیا دین های الهی قدرت و توانایی ساختن انسانهایی بهتر را دارند

 یا آنان نیز بصورت اهرامهای فشار و حربه های برنده ای در دسترس شیادان و دغلان قرار میگیرند. اگر به تاریخ نگاه کنیم میبینیم که دین های الهی هم شاید بیشتر دردسر ساز بوده اند تا مشگل گشا؟  جنایات عظیمی که بنام دین انجام شد و پیروان یک دین دین دیگری را نابود کردند و یا زنده زنده در آتش انداختند تا همین کنون که بجرم دین دیگر داشتن و یا در خانواده ای با دین دیگری به دنیا آمده بایست یک زندگی سراسر رنج و عذاب را تحمل کرد و اجازه اعتراض کردن هم نداری زیرا مومنان به یک دین توقع دارند که شهید بشوی و غارت بشوی تا میزان دین داریت هویدا بشود.

هم اکنون هم در مثلا قرن بیست یکم بنام دین غارت میشوی و زندگی ات از هم راحتی پاشیده میشود. تازه اینها برای مومنان کافی نیست آنان کمتر را شهادت را ارج نمی نهند.  ما بایست از بچگی مشگل دین و ناراحتی های آنرا تحمل کنیم تا نوجوانی که دسته بندی میشویم و به نوعی خود  را جدا از مردمی دیگر به دین دیگر میدانیم. تا پیری که بایست هنوز هم با مشگل دین دست پنجه نرم کنیم.

بنام دین گروهی کشته و یا شهید میشوند گروهی از زندگی و کار ساقط میگردند و گروهی خانه و خانواده خود را از کف میدهند و بنام دین توسط دیگران غارت میگردند.  آواره  و  در بدر میشوند و مومنان یک دین همه این  کارهارا خوب و پسندیده می بینند. و مردم را به کشته شدن و کشتن در راه دین ترغیب میکنند.  چه بسا انسانهایی که بنام دین کشته شدند و یا به خاک سیاه نشستند. ولی خوب کسانی هم هستند که از صدقه سر دین به ثروتهای نجومی رسیدند و در خور خواب شهوت غرق گشتند.  خوب برای یک عده ای دین سبب راحتی و آسایش و ثروت و مکنت است و برای دیگران بدبختی  و درد و عذاب هدیه میآورد.  یکی در چهارشنبه پول گم میکند و دیگری پول پیدا مینماید.


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faryarm

The Question of GOD.

by faryarm on Sun Sep 19, 2010 09:30 AM PDT

This article provides some profounf food for thought.

Timothy Casey, in his opinion:

"Much as I'd like to dictate to you my favourite early Twentieth Century Baha'i idea that God is the power of attraction as it exists at every level of existence, it is probably more accurate to admit that God is the face we all apply to what is most important to us in life. Far from being right or wrong, our preferred beliefs about the nature of God say something about who we are. As it is natural for us to gravitate towards those who share our priorities and who at least in theory are willing work with us towards common goals, so do we gravitate towards those with a similar idea of God (IE: because the idea of God in itself defines to some degree our priorities). Perhaps this partly explains, the almost universal human need to win converts to a particular doctrine about God." 

see full article

//god.timothycasey.info/


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