What would you do if they throw on you til?!

so, tarsu

you heard that from a friend huh?  and where, might i ask, did your friend hear that.  no, don't bother.  i don't think there really IS a friend.  just another ship passing in the night dropping off a little tidbit of information intended to rile some people up.  good job, you must be proud of yourself.

D.  i agree with everyone who has welcomed you to IC and to calm and intelligent discussions.  i hope we see more of it. 

D, that is understandable but

D, I understand the point of wanting to make yourself understood and influence, nothing wrong with that. However, if it had been as simple as that, you would have also looked around enough to know that Iran's intention to "wipe Israel off the map" is a cynical fabrication. I am not even going to discuss it hear. You must have either heard the debates around it or if you have not (!) go and find out. In which case it would be more important, for the sake of peace and understanding of each other, than immediately contributing to this site. However, another issue is the fact that people like Zion and Mehdi Mazloom are repeatedly offensive and provoke counter-attack. This site has not been known for anti-Semitism or in fact anti-Israeli remarks, but since these provokations particularly in the midst of Israeli slaughter in Gaza, you would not be pleased to know that those who did not see eye to eye in relation to domestic issues in Iran, are all outraged by the sheer insensitivity, hostility, racism, callousness and sense of righteousness. This is not, my friend, good advertising for Israel or Jews. I have not see any indication on this site that people generally have felt Israelis are not "human", so they don't need education on that. It is rather the attitude of absence of concern for others humanity and suffering that has caused may to question the psychological health and the intentions of the people of Israel. If you care about your compatriots, do enter dialogue by all means, (Zion and Mehdi too) but do so not on the basis of provokation, Islamophobia, creating divisions based on hatred and racism, and introduce a human side. I for one, and I am sure many share this feeling, would welcome to see compassion and fairness, and fear war just as you do.

I have heard

My friend told me that Israelis are very similar to Communists of Russia and Nazis of Germany in to one. Is that true?
Also I have heard that the government will force them to read books that talks against Arabs or Palestinians? That was horrifying to hear. This hate will never end, so let's move on. I think they end up killing one another at the end. Thank God that we are not in that part of the world.

Thanks D.

Hope to see more like you in this website.

MM - #2

Man, i think you nailed it my friend. I'd much rather think outside the box and try to rationalize the extreme reactions as seen here. With a considerable dash of #1 and #3, i think it's fair to say that every iranian is unhappy and frustrated with the regime in iran. I don't think you were trying to imply in any way that iranians are stupid. rather, just the reverse. the majority of people here are extremely intelligent, educated, and most of all, PASSIONATE. about anything and everything...lol. i do admire you and "d" for attempting to present a different side, or view. i don't think anybody supporting israel is necessarily supporting their actions. i certainly don't. but that fine line of balancing a fair and open view towards the jewish people was ABSOLUTELY crossed and unfortunately, you and others are suffering the brunt of it. and by crossing the line, i am referring to israel herself. much more positive results could have been achived by a different tack, in my humble opinion. just as zion is her own worst enemy, israel has allowed herself to be the target of the world. and to you zion, i'm not trying to be ugly (because i know you don't care what i think) but a gentler approach would be helpful.

what IS a shame is that many people on IC feel that this site is off limits to anyone else with a differing view.

you know the old saying, you catch more bees with honey than vinegar.

anyhoo. good luck and keep your head down. :-)

Listen and watch

You will recall this voice someday:

//online.wsj.com/video/a-palestinian-father-a...

That's even more interesting

D

I appreciate your candor in responding my question. I have not seen any one of the other Israelis on this site come forward to say why they're here.

I would understand this to be a noble patritotic gesture from an Israeli person: going to different websites where "your side" of the story is not quite clear and trying to make a good impression on the members of that site to win sympathy for Israel.

That's great and could even be considered a positive course of action in PR.

Would you please take a look at the comments and the tone of the two other Israeli members of this site and tell me who in their right mind would show sympathy for either a member who puts Iranians down and insults and ridicules other members of this site who do not agree with her, or just read the previous comment from the more gentle Israeli contributor  who regrets to have come down hard on us and that he needs to grab us by the collar and shake us to tell us what he thinks the truth is...

Do you really think that these two members are doing Israel a favor here?

Don't take my word for it please. Go ahead and click on their names and see what their blogs and contributions have been so far.

Try to put yourself in the place of an Iranian who you want to win over. See if the insults and ridicules and name callings would convince you to sympathise with Israel or would you think: if this is what they do to me online, imagine if they had white phosphorus bombs and knew where I lived! 

You be the judge!

IRANdokht

Of course we care

As an Israeli: Of course we care what Iranians think. It's in our interest to show you our side of the story because Iran is funding organizations that later kill Israeli citizens and end up igniting wars you later blame Israel on. Iran suddenly one day decided that the "Zionist Entity" needs to be wiped out, and you're saying we should shut up and do nothing about it?

What good would it do if I go to a pro-Israeli site and start talking about the issue, everybody there already agree with me so what's the point?

I and others like me would rather expose some Iranians to the other side of the issue, one they might be viewing for the first time. I'm not naive enough to believe I'll be able to convince anybody, but even if some Iranians or other anti-Israeli/anti-Zionists merely stop thinking of Israelis as monsters and understand we're human beings with understandable motives for the things we do, even if you don't agree with said motives, I've achieved my goal.

Dear MM

you said:

Please, take a look at your own dirty laundry hanging in your own back yard before you pick at your neighbor's dirt laundry. 

Since you're here on iranian.com defending IDF's actions and telling us to take care of our own homeland first, I have to ask you why is it that instead of going to an Israeli or Arab website which is more in tune with your homeland and your issues, you're signing on to iranian.com and trying to convince Iranians that they're stupid and need to be shaken by the collars?(paraphrased there)

I am just very curious about that. How come an Israeli citizen needs to "educate" people on iranian.com when there are thousands of websites that are frequented by people directly involved with the region.

Why do you care what iranians think? Why do you put yourself in a situation that you have to "regret for having to be hard on some of you well educated individuals" ?

IRANdokht

Just relax will you.?

Ever wondered, why is it so easy to trigger Arab & Muslims in the streets of Arabia and Persia, then watch you dance?. Just relax for god sake, enjoy the humor with it.

Some of you so-called heart bleeding for the Palestinians. Ever thought the idea that, any idiot throughout the west, can come here and post a simple (and provocative) post, then watch you dance like...........you already know what.

Stop being so sensitive to every simple provocation. 

I have been on this forum long enough, and read enough of your posts to realize that, the whole Palestinian issue for many of you, is NOT to defend justice and fairness, rather an outlet to vent your own frustrations at the rigid religious and cultural system in which many you have been educated. True to that venerable Iranian "Taarof", many of you just PRETEND to care about the hated Sunni Arabs, who you loath and look at them down your nose. We the Israelis know this all too well, and can see through it. 

Using the Israeli- Pals conflict accomplishes 3 objectives for you. 1) Bashing Israel and the Jews is fashionable, politically correct, and safe subject to holler about. 2)  An easy outlet for you to vent your own fenestrations against the Islamic rigid and cultural system under which many of you live. 3) To declare to the world "see how "compassion I am".

If Arab and other Muslims really care so much about the Palestinians in general, and Hamas in particular,  why do you persecute them more then the Israelis do. Why your government refuses to offer a helping hand to these poor people when you come knocking on your doors? What happened to that venerable Islamic compassionate to help another fellow Muslim.

For for those of you heart bleeding Iranians, I like to know how did you react when Arafat and the rest of the Pals were supporting Saddam Hussein after he slaughtered a million innocent Iranian teenagers during the I & I war.? 

Please, take a look at your own dirty laundry hanging in your own back yard before you pick at your neighbor's dirt laundry.

There is no doubt about it, Palestinians ARE suffering. It is tragedy. Their own leaders are just as responsible for misleading them into the obyst, as the Israeli are. 

Why don't you spend some of your heart bleeding capitals and try helping the sufferings of minorities in Iran itself. And YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM REFERRING TO.

I truly regret for having to be hard on some of you well educated individuals. But sometime telling people the truth in their face, to wake them up to realities is the best advice one can provide.

Unfortunately many of you hate filled posters leave no other choice, but to gget up, shake you by the collars and tell you the truth in your face.

Ebi jan

That video clip was just so hard to watch...

:-( 

IRANdokht

aah how cute

Zions trying to say they are cool about criticism. We are all sure that there were no pictures or film they could just show as what they have done in the past a few years to innocent people (Lebanese and Palestinian civilians). Would Zions want a neighbor just like them?

Zions "think" and advertise that Hamas and Hezbullah hides behind the civilians and therefore it's "FINE" to kill all the civilians, since it's the "Terrorists" fault that democratic Israel is baby killer and rapist. How cute. Zions will get their respond, as time has shown, what goes around comes around.

Zionism is Terrorism.

Humm

The thing is, I simply won't give in to the spiels and shticks of an ideological mob. There's a huge difference there, but don't trouble yourself about it too much. That's the kind of thing you probably will never understand.

Well, people playing in the clip don't seem to understand as well.

I come to my conclusion: You're a genius, the whole world is wrong and you are the only one who understand. Clap clap clap

Explain

Marge said:

BECAUSE: zion=zilch

Appalling!

What a morbid culture! This shows that even in their sattire, Zionists are decietful and dishonest!

Why do you need to use an Iranian site to defend Israel?

It doesn't make the least bit of sense. Guess what, Iranians aren't the only population who hate Israel's policies. And this stupid video (yes stupid), doesn't make sense at all. Compare Paris to Israel in 2009?! HA. You act like these Palestinians have rights in Israel or are regular citizens. It's sick to even try to make the comparison. You must be a whirwind in the sack Zion. I say this as a fellow female. All this anxiety and aggressiveness about Israel. WOOeeeeee. I'm serious. The psych of these ideological wingnuts usually takes you to weird sexual places. But like peace in the Middle East....we can ONLY imagine. Love you Zion. Love you Long TIME because I'm Iranian and happy and snappy woohoo. Change! No more negativity. Stop trying to bring us down Zion. 

زایون

اشکال تو و امثال تو در آنستکه از تاریخ درس نگرفتید و در طی قرون گذشته بغلط تصور کردید که با پول و دلالی و شر خری و رشوه دادن تاریخ را به نفع خود تغییر خواهید داد.

اکنون تو و امثال تو ظالمان و بیرحمان تاریخ پشت حمایت سلاحهای آمریکا شمشیرتان بخون بسیاری آلوده است. ولی مثل گذشته روزی خواهد رسید که پوزه شما بخاک سائیده خواهد شد و دیگر آمریکائی نخواهد بود که از شما دفاع کند.

پرهیز کنید از این زشتی ها و آینده فرزندان اسرائیل را بخاک و خون نکشید. در خونخواری حدی نیست و اسرائیل بزودی در خواهد یافت که با سالی یک فیلم در مورد هولوکاست نمیتواند بروی جنایات خود سرپوش بگذارد.

boo hoo

boo hoo
poor little children of palestine...boo hoo cry cry
no one on this site mentioned darfour or Somalis killed by the droves and a thousand times of palestinian numbers by the hands of islamist militants...yeah lets spend more of Irans resources on Palestinians while there is such a suffering and poverty going on in Iran just so we can jump on the same band wagon as the rest of arabs and bang on the same drums...Great job by the IRI to divert attention from themselves and direct your anger towards Israelis, all over stupidity of religion and its believers
Jews Christians Muslims and all other religions are the cause of human suffering and now some Iranians have joined the bullshit of IRI through this website. Congradulations morans.
funny clip though !

What would you do if they throw on you til?!

Ebi aka Haaji

That was so lame "Mirza"

I was expecting something exciting and manipulative and all that. Ahh... .
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Haji, I do not "defend every Israeli's exaction". The thing is, I simply won't give in to the spiels and shticks of an ideological mob. There's a huge difference there, but don't trouble yourself about it too much. That's the kind of thing you probably will never understand.

Zion

You didn't get it ... Genius.

I'll try to reformulate my question - in slow motion for you.

Humm...

You're the only person (Zionist and others all mixed in) I know who ferociously defend every Israeli's exaction. Right? So, I was wondering if you were playing in the video to counter-balance what people there are condemning.

You AGAINST All...

Capice?

Attention begging nobody

That you are an attention begging nobody, who wants to feel superior as a jewish-jihadi, amongst the lesser races!

I have no idea "Mirza"

Why don't you tell us all what your detective brain has concluded instead? :-)

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Anonymous Fish, thanks and I'm glad you understood and liked it.

Right back at you GENIUSE

With your track record on this site; with the heated discussions going on for the last month; with the pain and suffering that even the most apolitical of us feel; who is the GENIUSE?

Couldn't you forsee this reaction? You one of the geniuse CHOSEN people? So why did you post it, you scheming rat?

LOL

Thanks Mehdi, it is a funny one. But look around you, the comments here are even funnier! Hey geniuses, this is a work of satire, it is an intelligent critique of Israeli policies. lol.
Then again, it is Israeli, has that star of david in it and for some, the knee jerk reaction to that overrides everything else. Doesn't it? ;-)

This is an insult to Jewish Comedians Worldwide. HUMOR?

A joke yes, but it's on them. Fools. Keep at this attitude. It's really worked out well for you guys! I can't wait for the fabulous PR bombs to start now that the outrage about the Gaza war is on. Oh what a market this war industry has become. Oh joy. Make money and laughter out of war. What a great world.

LOL: what's in a name?

Mehdi Mazloom? More like Yahdi Zaleem!

awesome job

too bad that some people just can't accept that you're human just like they are.

but i guess it's just easier to hate.

thanks for the humor.

maybe... one day.

zion, good job.

Israelis have a lot of sense of humor. great job

Zion,

You don't play in the clip? Your contribution to show how all people around the world are wrong, and you right?