Wednesday
May 16, 2001
* Boy, was I wrong
Okay. I think Iranian.com is trying desperately to prove something to
the readers who objected to the article "Bahram".
I saw the piece "Missing
the Point?" which featured a truly classy (I am being sarcastic
here) poem by Iraj Mirza (I don't even want to get into "Dariush",
right now).
I tell you what; why don't you guys start publishing nude pictures regularly
with a weekly centerfold, and change the site's name to IranianPlayboy.com,
and just get it over with? Certainly your material is up for it. Man oh
man, you will be so sophisticated and modern then..., you wouldn't believe!!!
Furthermore, you'll be "cool" too!! Isn't that what you guys are
trying to be? Sophisticated, modern, and cool....? Boy, was I wrong about
The Iranian.
Sam
EDITOR'S REPLY: "Missing
the Point?" -- Iraj Mirza's poem on chador -- was featured in iranian.com
in 1998. Is there really no room for writings about sex and sexuality that's
not offensive to you? Is there nothing between Playboy and the Koran? Are
you okay with Michelangelo's statue of David? Or the Greek Aphrodite? What
if an Iranian creates a similar staute of a nude Iranian man or woman? Would
that be vulgar? Or would that be art? Are you saying that only "Bahram"
and "Dariush"
and "Iraj
Mirza" are worthless, trashy, pornographic, junk? Where do you
draw the line between the sublime and the obscene when it comes to sexualtiy?
-- Jahanshah Javid
* What does "Nothing" really mean?
For a while now, The Iranian, along with its new look has adopted
"Nothing is sacred" policy. Although it sounds good to most of
us who are sick and tiered of censorships, self-imposed or otherwise, but
what does "Nothing" really mean? Can one submit a letter full
of hate and insult to what is dear to the most? Can one submit the most
graphic (or porno graphic) picture to The Iranian? Would it be published?
I would (like to) think not. Probably because the editor of this online
magazine has a set of standards, both professionally and morally, that forces
him, or I should say, allows him to pick and choose what he thinks appropriate
for this site. The same is true for any public forum, be it in print or
any other form.
Based on what I have been trying to say about the standards, I don't
find the Nooneh's witting appropriate for The Iranian. I read The
Iranian to be in-touch we the rest of my fellow Iranians, to get informed,
to offer my opinions, to be entertained, to be challenged, to disagree,
to get nostalgic and to think. "Bahram"
and alike does not belong.
It's not a question of good or bad writing; it's not a matter of morality;
it's like, for instance, having Pamela Anderson's naked picture in the business
section of your daily paper. It doesn't belong. It makes it hard to suggest
to a sixteen year old iranian.com is where she could learn about Iran and
Iranians. It makes it hard to choose >>>
FULL TEXT
Ray Irani
* Aberoo nadarin?
The Iranian used to have some level of class in what it published.
Now it seems like any chert-o-pert that is submitted is being accepted as
long as the author is Iranian. The "Just Breathe" series are shallow,
as are the shorth stories by Nooneh. It is as if these Iranians have no
sense of dignity. Yezareh sangini ro hefz konin baabaa....aakheh een daastaanhaayeh
birapt yanni chi? Aberoo nadarin? Pure nonsense.
Roxana Samimi
20 years of age
* Stop reading
For those of us who are living in the Western Hemisphere, i.e. America,
we have what the United States government calls amendments, which give its
people certain amount of rights and privileges. The first wondrous amendment
allows each and every person in the United States, citizen or not, to have
the freedom of the press and speech. We also have the right to ignore or
the right to grievance, to put it legally.
If you do not like what Iranian.com publishes, by all means stop reading.
I understand that you can find some the articles offensive and maybe not
suitable for minors (or adults), but we cannot ban or forbid certain literature
because we, or some of us, do not feel it is appropriate.
On the other hand I appreciate Iranians from all over the world expressing
their thoughts and feelings. Relationships for Iranians is a social issue
that we, like Nooneh, have to face one way or another -- either in real
life or through a fictional essay. Why not?
We have the freedom, a natural law forbidden in Iran (must always remember
why we fled that country in the first place) to express ourselves. Why should
Nooneh's atricle or any other be banned?
I feel very connected to Iranian.com and I acknowledge it as a successful
internet magazine. Those who agree with me know that it is nice and comforting
to connect in a unparallel universe with journalists.
I did not understand what Nooneh went through exactly, but I commend
her for her writing technique. She should continue to write and prosper
as an author.
Farzaneh
PS. If you do not want you kids to read porn or other sexually explicit
materials, have them home-schooled ;-)
* Sick, explicit, Western sexual behavior
I think your sexually
explicit material is disgusting. I used to read your materials and had
bookmarked your web site in my favorites. I also had recommended your web
site to couple of friends. What a mistake. But in the past couple of weeks
your explicit sexual materials have gone too far. It is a shame that instead
of trying to learn the science and technology of the West we had chosen
to get involved in sick, explicit, Western sexual behavior. Please take
me off of your mailing list.
Alireza Bakhshi
* Rejecting traditional values
This is about publishing erotic stories in your sites. Please read my
arguments against publishing those stories:
I used to recommend your magazine as a SANGIN Iranian magazine on the
web, with an attractive design and a collection of good stuff. When I saw
these erotic stories on your web site I thought why did you put out these
odd and un-matched stories. I can not find a reason for that:
1- At first I thought maybe because of the artistic values of these stories?
But these are AABGOOSHTI and boring stories. They are not stories written
by Sadegh Hedayat or something.
2- Maybe you are succumbed to the idea of openness. Let me emphasize
that there is no such thing as a neural position. Openness does not mean
that you are neutral. each of us have a standing on different issues and
we tolerate different opinions on different issues to different degrees.
Being neutral is not scientific or logical , it is an illusion. All of us
have preferences consciously or unconsciously. Publishing erotic stories
is rejecting some traditional values. You can not be value-free. but you
can be unaware of your values. Let's be conscious and selective about our
values >>>
FULL TEXT
Hassan S. Dibadj
* Bahram great, Dariush crap
I am under the impression that there may be a point in publishing Nooneh's
second story ["Dariush"].
However, no matter how much I think I can't come up with any other than
competing with Playboy magazine story section (if the section is still around!).
It is sad to see a start as great as "Bahram"
ends in a futile nothing-but-sexual crap like "Dariush".
Hezar_Mazhab
* Thank you
I just want to thank you guys for the new erotica
section ;-) I was very happy to see the second
story by Nooneh (Bahram's
author). I love her stories and appriciate her writtings. Thank you again
for your great website :-)
S.A
* Penguin women
First, thank you very much for paying attention to cultural points and
news of our dear country, IRAN. But there is a point that I regret too much,
and unfortunately it was the first issue of your magazine that I ever saw,
showing some women
with chador near the sea.
I must say that it is quite offensive to show our women in such a situation,
and showing them like penguins.
Please change this page with some beautiful thing from our country. If
you want to protest about something find a better way to express it. None
of my friends find it beautiful in any case. I hope you will succeed in
your way.
Farzaad
* Funniest I have read
This piece is the funniest I have read in a long time ["Bahram's
cousin"]. I am still laughing while typing. Thanks to the author and
the publisher. The laughter is also right at the face of the original piece
which was called Bahram, I think. The sarcastic tone of this one is fantastic.
Thanks again.
Bardia Saeedi
* Government vs. people
Regarding the recent opinions by Bahram Rajaee ["Look
in the mirror"], I think that the difference that we need to make
is the difference between the Iranian people and the Iranian government.
The Iranian people are a peace-loving people who after a rough 20th century,
would like to move on to join the international arena as an equal counterpart
of other countries. The Iranian government, however, is still being run
by a bunch of thugs who should be brought up on charges in an international
tribunal.
Regarding Israel's previous actions, just like any other country, it
has made is share of mistakes in the past. However, considering that it
is surrounded by neighbors that are looking to destroy it at the earliest
opportunity, it has behaved a lot better than most other countries, in similar
circumstances, would have.
Afshin Youssefyeh
* Bright female olaagh
Just wanted to send you a note of commendation and appreciation for writing
up the article in the Iranian entitled "Cover
your donkey". The article truly brought a smile to my face, and
sitting in the university Library right now, I chuckled to myself, noticing
a few heads turning to see what brought on this sudden burst of laughter.
I appreciate individuals such as yourself who see the humour in the things
they read and take the time to analyse and express their point of view,
and share it with others. Thanks for making me laugh!
I recall a humorous TRUE story about the boy and the donkey as I was
reading your article, which I thought I'd share with you. In fact, just
a few days ago, a friend who was a first-hand witness to this remarkable
event, told me how in one of the remote villages in Iran, this "dehati"
boy, perhaps out of desperation, or even wanting to compete with the male
donkey (hehehe), had forced his manhood into the female donkey. But, shock
horror! The female donkey had locked on the boy's Dinga-ling, and the poor
boy was stuck and couldn't get out of her.
Apparently, the whole town was watching this bizarre drama, some wailing
in disgrace, others cussing at him and some laughing hysterically like there
was no tomorrow! lol. Unbelievable, that's all I can say.
But, you know I am impressed, really impressed with the female donkey
(khar), who was bright enough to teach the boy a lesson. Wouldn't expect
it from a humble olaagh, would you? lol
Rosi
* Awaited Savior will save your skin
The drama "Time
to re-appear" by university students is really in a bad taste.
The Imam of the Time is made into a joke. If you have commented on Imam
Khomeini it would have been tolerable. But, be aware that the Imam of the
Time is Hujjat of Allah on earth. Because of Imam-e-Zaman you are breathing.
This is the reaction of haraam intake that you people are promoting such
thing. You can not ever succeed in making the earth better. Only his re-appearance
(zohoor) will solve the problems of humanity. The Awaited Savior will come
and save your skin.
Allahuma ajjil le waliyekal hujjat ibnil hasan
Razi
* Bahaullah schizophrenic
I read this email about Bahais. and it was full of nonsense ["The promised one"].
Hey, if you accept Islam and Mohammad and the Koran, then you must know
that it is clearly mentioned in the Koran that Mohammad is the LAST prophet
sent by God and there won't be anyone after him. And the Bible announced
the coming of Mohammad, not Bahaullah.
Bahaullah was not a prophet, he was just a schizophrenic with his delusions
and hallucinations and some naive people believed him and follow him. I
have seen people like him in psychiatric hospitals who claim to be prophets
and talk to God. But we know that they just suffered from hallucinations.
Perhaps if these people were born a thousand years ago they also would be
called prophets now and had followers.
Cyrus
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