October 29, 2001
* Deeply concerned
Dear Senator Feinstein,
On October 18, 2001 one of your esteemed colleagues, Senator Orrin Hatch
(Republican of Utah) submitted Senate Res. 173 calling upon local and federal
law enforcement officials "to work to prevent and prosecute crimes
against all Americans, including Iranian-Americans." This resolution
draws attention to the contributions of Iranian-Americans to U.S. society
and condemns bigotry against them. Thanks to your vote and that of other
senators this resolution passed by unanimous consent. However, now, it is
with much dismay that we read in the press about a draft bill, proposed
by you and Senator Jon Kyl which will bar students from Iran from entering
the United States. Needless to say, at the very least the Iranian-American
community is confused by such a contradictory action and deeply concerned
about it as well.
Iranians and Iranian-Americans in the US form a vibrant, peaceful, and
law-abiding part of the American nation, and stand resolutely in condemning
acts of violence and terror. There has never been a terrorism case in the
United States involving an Iranian student or immigrant. There is also
no doubt about the magnitude and importance of the contributions of Iranian
students in the US to advancement of science and technology in this country.
We, as professors and scholars of Iranian heritage, bear witness to this
fact and are proud of the achievements of Iranian students, as all those
seeking the best for this country should be.
Iranian students who apply for student visas to the US already go through
a rigorous 5-6 week long security check before they are granted permission
to enter the US - as opposed to the near instantaneous granting of visas
to students of many other nations. Furthermore many Iranian parents and
students have a high regard for education in American universities and will
be disappointed and disheartened by such restrictions, especially at a time
that calls for more dialogue and understanding among all nations. The draft
bill proposed by you and Senator Kyl will not only have no effect in limiting
the flow of potential terrorists to the US, it will harm US interests in
the short and long run, by preventing the best and brightest of Iranians
from entering this country - where many who receive advanced degrees stay
and make contributions.
In the words of Charles Vest, President of the Massachusetts Institute
of Technology, speaking about this year's Noble prize in Physics, "This
award reminds us once again of how incredibly important it is for our nation's
universities to keep their doors and their campuses open to those wonderful
people who come to the United States from many other nations around the
world to build the tremendous intellectual and human community we have."
We are sure, that as an elected official, you have no desires to damage
this country's competitive advantage in science and technology as compared
to the rest of the world. Your constituency, which includes large numbers
of Iranian-Americans and even larger numbers of professionals in the high-tech
industry, will not approve of such draconian measures.
And we urge you once more to consider the facts - that Iranians and Iranian-Americans
form a highly educated, motivated, vibrant, peaceful, and law-abiding part
of this nation - before putting your signature down to this bill. It is
our hope that you will seek the best interests of this nation, and not propose
or support measures that hamper US national and economic security and vitality
- to which Iranians and Iranian-Americans make significant contributions
on a daily basis.
Sincerely,
Board of Directors
Association of Professors and Scholars of
Iranian Heritage
cc: Senator Jon Kyl
* Iranians should react
I agree with Parveez Shirazi ["Why
silent?"] that Iranians should react to the recent initiative by
Senator Feinstein to make life even harder for Iranian students in the US.
Moving away from political honesty and common sense, the Senator seems
to have elected the path of demagogy. Forgetting that the perpetrators of
the recent tragic attacks were overwhelmingly from "friendly"
Arab countries (Saudi Arabia, Egypt) she has chosen to administer another
easy blow at the usual and familiar demons: Iran, Iraq, Lybia,...
I recently sent her an email. You can also express your opinions to her
by going to her web
site and leaving a message.
Afshin Afshari
* Walking on clouds
Dear Naghmeh, ["His
royal lowness"]
The problem with you is that you are Harvard educated (nothing bad about
it, mind you). But that makes you blind to the aspirations and wishes of
ordinary folks. You are engulfed in your bookish ideas that take you away
from hard reality. Ordinary folks neither want your advice nor understand
your high ideals.
What you are saying in your very long article is to satisfy yourself
and the likes of you. If you just walk down from your high lecturing podium
and take a few steps on the hard ground, most probably you may be able to
see the things ordinary fellow Iranians do. Walking on clouds takes you
nowhere.
One more thing. Since when have we become so sophisticated, educated
-- distinguishing right from wrong -- to really be able to choose a utopian
government you envisage for the future of our beloved land? Did the so-called
revolution do the job in such a short time? Then I should say ALLAH O AKBAR!
SOBHAN ALLAH!
Best wishes & regards,
H. Hakimi,
Norway
* No guilt whatsoever
While, I cannot agree with the thrust or the conclusion of the article
by Naghmeh Sohrabi ["His
royal lowness"], I did, regardless of the inappropriate title that
does nothing to enhance the piece, find her robustly argued case against
Reza Pahlavi to be interestingly provokative. I believe that much of the
points presented by Ms. Sohrabi are assertions which require a response,
since they are being openly discussed amongst various groups of Iranians
who share an interest in the future of their country. However, it is not
an essential pre-requisite that we should all end up agreeing once any such
debate is conducted.
As someone who has been a political activist for the past two decades,
with roots in the previous regime, I do not categorize the re-establishment
of a system of constitutional monarchy in place of the current obscurantist
regime as "retrograde". This is a topic that must ultimately be
addressed by the Iranian nation as a whole. Indeed, the likes of Ms. Sohrabi
must be given the opportunity to argue their case -- as must everyone else,
but in the end it is the will of the majority that must prevail. If Ms.
Sohrabi chooses to criticize Reza Pahlavi for not giving people the credit
they deserve for having become a "critical and aware polity",
then she should not in turn preempt the very same people by adopting a somewhat
condescending posture as regards to a potential choice that they may wish
to exercise.
The majority of other points made by Ms. Sohrabi are ones that have commonly
been made by those who have consistently opposed Reza Pahlavi and the option
he presents for the future of Iran. While, I respect their objections, which
at times go beyond logic and enter the realms of emotions, I find them to
be shallow and irrelevant to the types of issue confronting our nation at
this time.
Ms. Sohrabi must understand that the new generation of Iranian constitutionalists
-- not monarchists -- who are probably around the same age category as she
is herself (not her father's generation) feel no guilt whatsoever about
what transpired in 1953 or 1979. This is based on the solid belief that
if one political constituency was responsible for causing the revolution,
then all other political constituencies bear a similar responsibility for
serving as a stepping stone for the brutal theocracy that has blackened
the reputation of our country and brought so much damage to our people in
the course of the last 23 years.
Moreover, there is no desire on the part of the movement which is being
spear headed by Reza Pahlavi to turn the clock back to the past. Indeed,
the restoring the monarchy is not even on the political agenda advocated
by him and Iranian constitutionalists. What is being advocated is the replacement
of the current system with a secular democracy for which a new constitution
will be required.
The drawing up of a new constitution will require elections for a constituent
assembly that will then debate the future form of the country (i.e., republic
or constitutional monarchy). Reza Pahlavi has offered to use his unique
position as an internationally known personality to lead a "unity ticket"
for the attainment of this objective.
However, neither Ms. Sohrabi nor anyone else is obligated to join this
campaign or to accept his leadership. What we can strive to achieve, irrespective
of our feelings, is the kind of constructive political discourse that will
allow our people to make an aware and accurate assessment of the various
arguments that are advanced.
Given the experiences of the past two decades, we must put an end to
the whole process of hurling mud at one another, and concentrate more on
the important work of establishing a progressive secular democracy that
respects the human rights and dignity of all Iranians at all times.
Mehrdad Khonsari
* We should just be patient
I really enjoyed Naghmeh Sohrabi's piece on Reza Pahlavi ["His
royal lowness"].
I agree with her that those Iranians who are putting all hopes on the
son of the former Shah are dead wrong. I understand the older generation
being nostalgic about the Pahlavis, but the truth is that one just can't
trust them. The coup of 1953 brought the Shah back to power and destroyed
the hope for democracy in Iran for decades.
Whether we want to believe it or not, Iran is now slowly going toward
democracy. Most revolution go through phases. It's true that during the
past 22 years Iran has been ruled by religious dictatorship, but it is just
a phase. In its first stage, the British revolution went through Cromwell's
dictatorship before going back to the autocratic rule of Charles II. Only
after 40 years through the glorious revolution an effective constitutional
monarchy was established.
In France, the revolution went through a period of terror. Then Napoleon
took power before the previous dynasty took over again. But they did not
last either. The country went through the revolutions of 1830 and 1848 before
a new fragile republic was formed under Louis Napoleon Bonaparte. He became
an emperor in 1851, but eventually his defeat in the hands of Germany ended
the monarchy for good in France in 1871. Therefore, it took France more
than 80 years to establish an effective Republic.
My point is that we should give the revolution in Iran a chance to go
through its proper phases. Maybe it will take decades, but the revolution
will succeed in the end. But bringing a former son of the Shah will only
slow the process. He just can't be trusted. How do we know he will not make
the mistakes of his father and destroy every hope for democracy in Iran
for a long time?
Based on the examples of the former Pahlavis, one should know better
than to trust Reza. His grandfather's rule was established in the Majles
Moassessan, under the constitution. Dr. Mossadegh tried to warn the country
and while he praised Reza Khan as an effective leader, he warned the people
of his authocratic nature.
Mohammad Reza Shah was not even half as strong as his father, but due
to his ties with the West he established an even more harsh atmoshphere
than his father. I am not trying to down play the Shah's accomplishments.
I think he did try to modernize the country and he kept us in peace for
25 years, something that Khomeini and his unwise and illogical policies
failed to do.
But Reza Pahlavi is the son of that father. He might say now that he
wants democracy, but in the long run he can't be trusted. I think we should
just be patient and wait for gradual change in Iran instead of putting our
hopes on a person like Reza Pahlavi.
Ali-Reza Kasra
* Popular vote is the only way
Naghmeh Sohrabi's piece, "His
royal lowness", seems quite contradictory to an educational background
possessed by someone of her calibre. Her research and studies regarding
her country seem to have been concentrated on a century other than the one
we're living. It's more than obvious that the opinions she has expressed
in her essay spring not from actual modern socio-political events in Iran,
rather from personal dispositions.
She has criticized Reza Pahlavi for stating his disregard for the election
process exercized by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The fact that the process
of reform is an impossibility within that system is another matter. However,
she seems to believe that the elections, at least were a legitimate platform,
where citizens were enticed to play an active role in their country's political
blunders. She is unfortunately misguided by the number of voters that took
part in those elections and seems to think that the counted votes represented
desire rather than desperation.
I personally would like to see the outcome of the elections if an actual
secular-minded democratic candidate were given the opportunity to participate.
Surely, she does not think that the choices provided for the people represented
any other idealogy OTHER than that of the Islamic Republic. If I were to
be deprived of nutrition for weeks and all of a sudden had a choice of eating
a dead cockroach, or a dead cockroach covered in chocolate, of course I'd
choose the latter.
The Iranian people have chosen the chocolate covered dead cockroach twice
already and are now desperately seeking for more choices. And this time
they've taken their ambitions so far as to demand for the German Chocolate
Cake (with no cockroaches).
Naghmeh has also openly expressed her discrepancies with a possible referendum.
She seems to think that the Iranian people should not even be given the
choice of monarchy regardless of what shape they're in. And again, we're
back to those same limited options and perhaps she would provide for her
people a more motley bach of cockroaches this time around. This is proof
why someone like Reza Pahlavi would be a perfect leader for a referendum
project. Because he has clearly adapted the true notion of a referendum
pointing clearly to the idea of "popular vote".
There is also the same old argument of "well, what has he done for
the past 22 years?" Normally this question is asked by those who have
actual resentment toward the royal family anyway. But, since I'm truly
impressed by Naghmeh's educational background, I believe that she would
gladly consider a legitimate analysis.
Let's see here, the man left Iran when he was a teenager and has obtained
foreign education. Now, if he were to stay in Iran, of course we'd not
be discussing this issue either way, for he would more than likely so not
exist. He has enhanced himself through academic means and prepared himself
for future service to his nation.
I'm sorry but speaking on national television in the defense of his
people and separating them from the filthy deeds of their government IS
indeed service to his nation. Risking the lives of his family and himself
with the IRI's dirty track record of overseas assassinations is indeed service
to his nation. Or did you expect him to lead an opposition group at the
age of 20 so that you could scorn him for his lack of education, the fact
that he's too young and inexperienced. Either way, he is set for prejudgement
as a result of his father's mistakes.
I'm not necessarily an advocate for monarchy nor am I trying to inveigh
Naghmeh's idealogy. However, I believe that our generation has learned
that their fathers made a big mistake, that personal vendettas don't mix
with politics and that a popular vote is the only way to socio-political
relief.
Maybe she just doesn't like the Dalas Cowboys.
Reza
* Royalist propaganda disturbing
Thank you so much for posting your article on Iranian.com ["His
royal lowness"]. It was a very intelligent and informed look at
both the current and previous political situations in Iran.
As an American born Iranian, it also disturbs me to hear a lot of propaganda
from Royalists here in the United States. I'd call the Islamic Republic
less than an ideal government but to go around saying the Shah's Iran was
flawless and on the road to greatness is absurd.
Unfortunately on Iranian.com I read a lot of articles that come from
a reactionary point of view. For instance anti-Islam essays that read more
like impulsive rhetoric written in a fit of rage than poltical commentary.
For myself, I am not religious and do not feel religion has any place in
government, but it is the manner in which their arguements are presented
that disturb me most. Your article however, was very eloquent and very amusing.
Your level of intelligence and education about surrounding the matter is
quite clear. I hope to come accross your name again.
Best,
Stig G. Helmer
* Heard enough of "roshanfekran"
I am getting tired of hearing people like Naghmeh Sohrabi putting down
monarchy and in particular the Pahlavis ["His
royal lowness"]. I mean, it is because of these know it all, so
called "roshanfekran" that our country is in such a state that
it is in now. These are the same "roshanfekran" who marched in
their thousends in support of Khomeini and his savage and brutal collabrators
in order to overthrow the Shah.
Instead of them admitting to their mistakes and confessing that they
are not that "roshanfekr" and apologise to the Iranian nation
for their actions which have helped to destory our country, they still go
on slagging off the monarchy and belting out the same shit out of their
mouth which destroyed our country in the first place.
In fact, what I want to know is if monarchy is so bad and you are so
in love with republic system why don't you get the hell out of your safe
haven in whereever it is and go back to Iran. Meanwhile, for the sake of
the rest of us Iranians who have suffered enough already as a result of
actions and comments by people like you, keep your thoughts to yourselfe,
because we have already heard enough of people like you.
As they say, actions speak louder than words, so why don't you just get
lost back in Iran and live the life that you so much desire.
Farzin
* Appalled by the denial
My many thanks to Naghmeh Sohrabi for "His
royal lowness". Especially the "Khejalat kesheedee?"
part! I just couldn't stop laughing bitterly at the extent of historical
denial you found and pointed out justly in the royal family mindset. So
he hasn't heard of the revolution and any other major events in Iran , at
least not in his website? Great!
I am 29 and moved to US from Tehran about a year ago and I am just appalled
by the denial or intentional ignorance some people here show in regards
to what has happened and is happening in Iran.When in Iran, it wasn't very
hard to see who and how many writers and artists and other people are trying
to make positive changes in the very limits of IRI even at the expense of
their own life.
But here out of Iran due to a lack of a genuine public sphere for Iranian
immigrants, it is so easy to come to believe that it would be the task
of power-hungry revengeful Reza Pahlavi to be our savior and our next political
leader. While his being power-hungry is understandable on Nietzchean terms,
but hiding it effeminately by (ab)using Western democratic dicourse is the
most deceptive and disgusting thing he can do to the very nation he aspires
to lead.
I will always admire your disenchanting articles specially for my generation,
who someday in Iran would need to have an opinion about him and people like
him with similar claims. I just hope that some day there would be a radio
or TV here other than the "reactionary ones" (what a good term)
for the people like you.
Again my many thanks,
Khashayar Beigi
Denver,US
* Overly optimistic towards IRI
I read your article on Reza Pahlavi and thought it was most excellent
["His
royal lowness"].
However, I don't agree with your somewhat overly optimistic treatment
of the current government of Iran and it's questionable accomplishments.
Having lived through the time before and after the revolution, I assure
you had the populace known how their revolution would be subjugated by the
religious mollahs, they would never have risen up against the Pahlavis.
So what you have now is merely a slight moderation of a larger betrayal
of the people of Iran. Now they are pretty much helpless. It is unclear
how the government would react to a more liberal election result. I bet
they won't accept the result. Something has to break the spell. Anything,
even the return of a less than exciting Pahlavi is better than this.
It is important to not forget, that this government has become the most
brutal in Iran's history, having killed outright and imprisoned more of
it's own people than any other before it. For that they don't get off so
easily in my book. I certainly wouldn't praise them for being stupid and
occasionally losing control over their stranglehold.
Bruce Bahmani
* Youth responding positively to Pahlavi
Naghmeh Sohrabi ["His
royal lowness"] does not like Reza Pahlavi's sweatshirt and does
not find his background, his qualifications and his leadership qualities
comparable to the other "thinkers" that she knows (and may be
she will be kind enough to introduce them to us, one day).
One wonders, why is it then that she is alarmed at the thought of monarchy
returning to Iran? Could it be because she has realized that the same millions
of Iranians (particularly the younger generation) who voted for Khatami
(that she appears to promote as one of her "thinkers") are now
responding positively to Reza Pahlavi's call for "non-violent resistance",
and that there is a very real chance that the people of Iran may vote for
the return of constitutional monarchy in a free referandum?
Ms. Sohrabi seems to find it hard to understand how people may want monarchy
in the 21st century, but fails to justify how she finds the DEVINE RULE
of MOLLAS in Iran acceptable, in the 21st century?! Is it because mollas
have superior pedigree, better intellect, higher qualifications or, perhaps,
more fashionable sense of "sweatshirt" (more to her taste)?!
Best regards,
Maral Beheshti
* Iranians are NAMAK NASHNAS
Ms. Sohrabi is the typical "modernist", "educated"
Iranian ["His
royal lowness"]. The kind of individual who believes in having
a "creative" approach to finding a solution to Iran's management.
She wants us to forget the fact that Iran is an ancient country with a
complex social structure, and an even more complex ethnic and cultural mix.
She wants Iran to be operated like Texas or New York. YES!!! Let us treat
Iran like a corporation, and change its management, and when it performs
better we shall have an IPO in the USA where she lives.
We Iranians are NAMAK NASHNAS. Every time I read or hear someone criticizing
the Pahlavis I thank GOD that YOU and people like you are in ghorbat. I
become glad that YOU suffer when the Americans call you "f----ing foreigner".
STAY THERE.
Just to make YOU and people like YOU happy... the Pahlavis shall not
return. Not because YOU do not want them back or the Iranians for that
matter. It is because the US and Britain do not want them back. YOU and
I have no say in this just like we had no say in the so-called "popular"
movement in 1979.
Truly we are NAMAK NASHNAS. And for this reason we are punished daily
with the mollas. This is what we deserve, a bunch of rulers that treat
us like animals, and dissolve us in acid tanks to get rid of opposition.
Just a silly example is the Azadi Stadium that we take so much pride
in. Built in the early 70s by this "measly dynasty" that strikes
fear in every team that enters it. Or the railroads that connected Iran
together. Or the universities. Or the removal of the hijab and giving
women rights of education and work. Just for YOUR record, Saddam feared
this measly Pahlavi so much that even when the Shah was still alive in exile
he did not dare attack Iran.
I do not want the monarchy back in Iran because we do not deserve it.
We deserve Massoud Rajavi, and Pistachio Rafsanjani. Face it!!! This
is what YOU, and creative people like you brought to Iran. Namak Nashnas.
Suffer, and stay and get buried in the U.S.
As for "YOUR GENERATION... speak for yourself... you need a lot
of learning to understand the deep rooted need for a monarchy in Iran.
Meanwhile enjoy California, and then when Iran changes for the better you
may have it on a plate.
Zal Bameri
* Can't people will a monarchy?
Sohrabi has done her homework ["His
royal lowness"], but what is exactly wrong with a monarchy? Are
all societies capable of having a democracy? Can't people will a monarchy?
There are many more questions, but it would be nice if she started with
some constructive comments.
Arang Keshavarzian
* Wrong, ignorant
Most of the arguments in Naghmeh Sohrabi, "His
royal lowness" are erroneous, wrong, stupid and ignorant. And
I don't have time to write about all of them one by one. So I just concentrate
on one point.
She defends the elections in the Islamic dictatorship, and then she even
drops lower and defends the Islamic Republic's constitution. Reza Pahlavi
was indeed very accurate to state that the Islamic constitution is the only
constitution in the world which is not based on popular sovereignty.
You don't have to be a genious to work this out. In Islamic Republic's
constitution Vali e Faqih and the unelected mollas have all the power.
You can read it in theory and see it in practice. I don't understand how
Ms. Sohrabi can not see this.
Then comes her funny statement: "Statistics on the elections show
that in the 1980s when there WAS this kind of pressure on people to vote,
the number of people who voted in elections was still less than the 20 million
votes Khatami has gotten each time."
In the 80s the number of TOTAL eligible voters were less than half of
today, that is less than 20 million. The only reason Khatami has got more
NUMERICAL votes than others in the past is that the population in Iran has
doubled in the past twenty years. Otherwise the percentages in all the so
called elections in the Islamic Republic have always been more or less the
same, and in line with all other Banana republics!
Regards,
Babak
* Never professed return to monarchy
Once again, as a non-monarchist, I have to come forward and defend Mr.
Reza Pahlavi against other non-monarchists such as Ms. Sohrabi who have
chosen to attack Mr. Pahlavi, the person, rather than his ideology, political
agenda and ideas ["His
royal lowness"].
Ms. Sohrabi utterly discredits the works of many Iranians who work tirelessly
to provide an alternative television program to Iranians in Iran. She carelessly
calls their efforts "gibberish" and "reactionary".
I would like to know how long she has spent watching an Islamic Republic
program to know what propaganda and gibberish really is.
At the beginning of her article, Ms. Sohrabi contends that Mr. Pahlavi's
supporters and indeed Mr. Pahlavi himself, profess a free society where
Iranians can choose their destiny in a democratic manner. However, she
soon begins to resort to innuendos telling us how she thinks Reza Pahlavi
wants to bring monarchy back to Iran! As far as I know, Reza Pahlavi has
never professed the return to monarchy. Please do not muddy the argument
just because you don't like the man.
Ms. Sohrabi begins to tell us how she hates his web site. How he is
not supporting charities. My answer is, so what? I ask you, how is that
relevant to Mr. Pahlavi's political agenda? Please allow me to remind everyone
that Reza Pahlavi is not running the Red Cross. His agenda is to unite
all of us against these backward rulers who have hijacked our homeland.
Ms. Sohrabi seems to be upset that Mr. Pahlavi has called the Iranian
revolution a catastrophe. She seems to have a hard time admitting that
we Iranians made a grave mistake listening to an old backward man who belonged
to the dark ages. She goes on attacking Mr. Pahlavi for criticizing the
elections in Iran.
This is really mind boggling to me! Out of 200 people who applied to
become the next president of Iran, only a handful was deemed qualified to
run for the office. In her view this can be called an election!
Ms. Sohrabi seems to be upset by the fact that Reza Pahlavi has indicated
that he wants to lead Iranians to a non-violent national uprising against
the mollas. She indicates, "I"m curious to know why exactly he
should lead it and not anyone else?" Whom are you exactly referring
to when you state anyone else? I would like to know. Give us some names
please.
Please don't get me wrong. We all should be critical. But, I also think
we need to be accurate and provide alternatives as part of our argument.
Mr. Pahlavi does not have to get involved in Iranian politics. He is married,
wealthy and could spend the rest of his life enjoying his kids. However,
he has chosen to make a difference.
I respect him for that. In my view, as Mr. Pahlavi has indicated himself
on many occasions, the underlying slogan in the future Iran must be "democracy".
The form of government that democracy takes shape in, is rather secondary.
Twenty-two years ago, Iranians opted to vote for a form of government,
rather than securing the ideals of social and economic freedom. We must
not make the same mistake again.
As a thirty something, I can relate to Reza Pahlavi. He advocates a
modern and free economic system. A free society where people have the right
to choose. Mr. Pahlavi supports a non-violent movement, something that
I dearly cherish. Above all, Reza Pahlavi advocates unity among all Iranians
no matter what their political philosophy is. We Iranians desperately need
to be united now.
Ali Sarshar
Seattle
* Drive to Qom in half the time
I just wanted to say Marhaba! vaghe'an barikala. ["His
royal lowness"]
My thoughts exactly, but better written than I could ever express. I
spent 10 years of my life in Iran under Shah's regime and since I left,
I have gone back to Iran several times. The last time was a month ago; I
traveled for a week straight and saw things that never existed during his
reign.
For instance, we owe many of the new freeway systems of the country to
the mollas. Instead of driving in two-lane old roads, you can drive to
Qom in half the time on the bozorgrah. Anyway, people need to open their
eyes and see beyond superficialities. Aghl beh cheshm nabayad basheh.
In any case thank you and keep up the excellent job.
MM
* How harder could it get?
Somebody once told me "in the 1978 revolution an intelligent fleet
of uneducated mollas defeated a fleet of educated but unintelligent intellectuals."
Come to think of it that is a simple but meaningful statement. ["His
royal lowness"]
Well, many years have gone by and many atrocities have taken place in
our motherland and the turban headed and bearded men are still ruling us.
Meanwhile we claim to be the so-called Persians who as ever before are trying
to separate ourselves from the dominated Arab-Moslem Middle east.
It is so sad to see all the current organizations are trying to conform
with the current reforms of the so called moderate mollas and not put into
consideration that, it is still the hardline (Taliban alike) clergy who
is running the Shaw. It makes me wonder how a nation (Iranians) can be individually
so successful and not uniform an a society.
The European Union has already confirmed these bearded creatures and
is treating them as a business partner, which is highly expected of a business
organization. Business does not consider any aspects of the human sufferings.
It is cash money that counts. With American government and the imposed Iranian
government relationship is like a hidden affair. It does also make me so
amazed that we are still bitterly blaming the previous government of Iran
for what is happening now.
We should take a moment and think how was it possible to change a government
in1978 and not possible now. Are we talking about loosing lives and hardship.
How harder could it get? Could it really be worse than loosing our dignity,
self pride, respect, freedom and basic human rights, etc.
As far as standards go the Islamic Republic of Iran is not that different
to the Taliban regime and us Iranians not too different from the poor Afghans.
The only matter that we are really good at is boasting about our past history
and what we can individually do.
Well, as a reader of iranian.com who has read so many point of views
in the last couple of years and I have come to the conclusion that not only
the Western world is supporting the ruling bearded men of Iran but also
so many of our outside Iranian organizations. Please do not get me wrong,
truth hurts.
Finally as an individual who has spent many years outside Iran but also
inside for long periods, I would like to urge all of us lets think again
and see how we can paralyze the ruling disliked mollas of Iran and bring
about a sound economy and politics not only to Iran but also the whole region
where we are located.
The last couple of weeks crises that have taken place in the name of
football is a good beginning. All we now need is a leader who for once ignores
the present push by Europe & US to make something out of those mollas
in order to achieve their goals in Afghanistan. Let's do what we have to
do and not be fooled by others or not betray our country.
Let's not repeat the history over and over again and keep blaming others
for our lack of political intelligence. Well the grounds are fertile and
people are looking for outside support. Who will it be. Can be anybody but
please no more religious organization since everyone is sick & tired
of this religious concept ( I mean Mojahedin Khalgh).
Let's hope nature is in our favor. Let's join our voices and share our
common goals rather pin pointing our differences. We Iranians deserve much
more on this planet.
RK
* Staunch supporter
I am a staunch supporter of His Imperial Majesty Reza Pahlavi and take
objection to your sending me such unsolicited material, which are offensive
to any Iranian in his right mind. ["His
royal lowness"]
If you do not remove me from your list immediately, I will contact my
Internet service provider.
Good Day,
Vitt
* Results of boring beliefs
Religion is used to justify people's political agendas which most of
the time have nothing to do with the ethical foundations of the faith ["Anthrax
of the masses"].
If it was Them, Al Quida, they claim to be Islamic. Protestant verbally
assaulting Catholics in Northern Ireland claim to be Christian. Of course,
they are not really Christian, they are not really Muslims, as they subvert
and distort and ignore the fundamental tenets of their faiths. The problem,
in a nutshell, is that if you are allowed, and encouraged, to believe in
God, on the basis of your upbringing and psychological needs alone, you
can believe in anything.
I do not think religion allowed Protestants to attack Catholics and vice
versa is Northern Ireland, it did not enable them to justify their hatred:
faith spawned that hatred. Then, the Twin Tower terrorists and the authorities
that restrict, maim and imprison their citizens, and the Northern Irish
combatants, and the Chinese bent on the destruction of Tibetan Buddhism,
and suicide cults, female circumcision, Catholicism-catalyzed Aids, ploy-religion
"holy" sexism, "devout" homophobia, "sacred"
racism, and the Hindu assassin of Mahatma Gandhi, the Sikh murder of Indiana
Gandhi, all the usual suspects are not an anomalous scum mutated from
the mass of good worshippers, but predictable results of the beliefs that
bore them.
In my inner most feelings, my brightest intuition, my deepest direct
connection to the world, I knew that faith, as a methodology, as a way of
making decisions, is a quivering parasitic monster, a sick and malignant,
intellectual self-destructive cancer in the mind of humanity. No argument
necessary. I have faith that faith is wrong. My belief alone is undeniable
evidence. And therefore it is so, not just in my mind but actually so; faith
is bankrupt. It is not even the case that faith is used merely to justify
what people want to do anyway.
Re Liable
* No better, no worse
Regarding Setareh Sabety's article on secularism: ["Anthrax
of the masses"]
While I am a full-on secularist and I believe that religion as a whole
is used as easily as - -if not more easily than -- other ideologies (and
I count the neo-liberal "shock-theray" recipes among the more
apparently virulent fascist, Stalinist and Zionist versions) to mobilize
murder and oppression, I don't think that Islam is necessarily any better
or worse than any of its non-, mono-, or poly-theist counterparts. It's
just that as Iranians we have a visceral experience of Islamism as a means
of repression and exploitation.
That said, I disagree with Setareh's assertion about it being better
living in Sharon's Israel than in Hamas's Palestine. Even as a feminist
who recognizes the ease with which Islamic edicts lend themselves to sexist
and gender-repressive measures, I cannot condone the kind of widespread
repression and murder Israel exercises in the Occupied Territories, nor
would I want to be a silent accessory to that.
Having said all that, I think Moji Agha's constant refrain of comparing
Setareh to the Taliban is absurd [Blame
blindness]. Let's get real: voicing an opinion -no matter how disagreeable
(and I find her opinions far from disagreeable) or strident -- is nothing
like the practical exercise of repression. Setareh -- even if she gets
on a rooftop and screams against religion -- is NOT comparable to the Taliban
because she does not have the kind of political, military, and practical
power a state or a para-statal organization such as the Taliban have.
She wasn't supported by CIA money, or the Pakistani secret service, she
hasn't murdered hundreds of thousands of innocents , she hasn't repressed
women and contributed to their murder through medical and financial neglect,
she hasn't forced people of other religions (specifically Hindus) to wear
badges as if they were Jews in Nazi Germany and she hasn't lined up members
of other ethnic minorities in a desert and shot them dead in a row.
In fact, to compare her voicing of her opinions to the kind of repressive
measures Taliban exercise is an attempt to silence her rather than engage
her arguments and it reminds me of those times in recent Anglo-American
history where anyone remotely on the Left was silenced by being called a
Stalinist - or the other version of it: anyone demanding civil liberties
in the USSR was called a bourgeoise!
Laleh Khalili
* Only the dead have no religion
Another religion hater, unthinking, babbles on ["Anthrax
of the masses"]. A religion is only a "system of beliefs",
even an atheist has a system of beliefs, anti-god, that's his religion.
One who reads horoscopes and believes them, goes by them, has a religion.
One who goes by the animals to tell him the weather has a "system
of beliefs", or religion. Only the dead have no religion.
Jerry Jonas
* Problem is mankind itself
So Ms. Sabety is now blaming religion... "Anthrax
of the masses", was it? She is amazed by "all this God talk".
She laments the chauvinism of religion. And having read Machiavelli, she
admits "I am all for military intervention".
I would suggest to her that she first lament hypocrisy, especially her
own. A few weeks ago we were witness to her heart warming story of how she
had proudly bought her first American flag. Of course, waving the American
flag is not chauvinistic (and certainly a show of conformity may help maintain
the health of a Middle Easterner's teeth).
After all, religion, not nationalism and greed, was the root of world's
most devastating conflicts... that is if you exclude Rwanda, Iran/Iraq war,
Vietnam, Cambodia, almost all Latin American civil wars, not to mention
those other minor conflicts like the 1st and 2nd World Wars.
Ms. Sabety needs to better understand the human psyche. The problem
is not religion, it is mankind itself. Religion is just another tool to
use people, along with nationalism, etc. Through million years of social
evolution, Humans have developed a need to belong to a social group.
It is this need that is manipulated by a few to control many more. If
one is pragmatic, one accepts and advances this cause to ones own end (as
in Machiavelli). If one is idealistic, one rejects all forms of chauvinism
and subsequent conformity.
Ms. Sabety cannot sit on both sides of the fence. Let me put it another
way, if dead civilians are collateral damage, then the term applies to all
victims, including the innocents of Sept 11. If they are not collateral
damage, then why advocate a military intervention?
And by the way Ms. Sabety, where was this terrifying strain of anthrax
developed? Could it be the secular state whose colors now decorate your
porch, and whose soldiers and military leaders you bravely urge on to the
plains of Afghanistan?
K.Khalili
* Mani and Mazdak: reformists
I read the letter from with great intrest. In his comment about fundementalism
he equates Bin ladin with Mani, Mazdak ["Bin
Laden not an aberration"]. With respect to my fellow Iranian ,this
is a total misinterpretation of history and is not supported by facts. Mani
and Mazdak were actually reformists who represented that strata of Zoroastrians
that had been disenchanted with fundementalist Zoroastrian priests (mogh
ha -- magies).
Mani and Mazdak are comparable to Martin Luther who opposed fundementalism
in Christisnity and protestant church is the result of his struggles. How
could one call Mazdak a fundementalist when his ideology is very liberal
even today? Because of the deep rooted religious believes in Iran thoughout
the history ,the carriers of the torch of freedom appeared from within the
mainstream religion.
Bin Laden strives, in his conviction, to reassert fundemental of Islamic
faith, wheras Mazdak struggled to change Zoroastrianism in very drastic
measures. Our dear friend is well advised to take into account the socioeconomical
causes of Mazdakism / Manechism.
Similar popular uprisings of Iranians during Islamic era against Arab
domination are recorded by the leaderships of Abu Moslem, Babak, Maziar,
and Afshin to name a few. I think our friend owes an appology to Mani and
Mazdak for equating these great thinkers and heroes with a fanatic madman
such as Bin Ladin.
With warmest regards,
Iraj
* Refresh your memory
Dear Setareh, ["Anthrax
of the masses"]
You say: "When all is said and done, for all this blood shed in
Palestine and bombing in Afghanistan and Anthrax up the noses of mailmen,
we have Muslim fundamentalism and bin Laden to blame.For all this unbearable
mess we have their notion of Islam to blame..."
It seems to me that you have no clue about the root of problems in the
Middle East. Have you not heard of all the atrocities of the US foreign
policy in that region... If you want a reminder, please read the numerous
articles written here and in other places... Here are some points to refresh
your memory:
1. Supporting oppressive and dictatorial regimes, such as those of Jordan,
Egypt, Saudi Arabia...
2. Stopping any effort by the people of those regions to establish a
democratic government... the best example in Iran with the overthrow of
the government of Dr. Mosaddegh, and the most important is the Taliban
regimen and Bin Laden himself.
3. Supporting even the biggest blood suckers like Saddam , during the
Iran-Iraq war. Just a reminder that more than 1 million Iranians were killed
and almost 1 million were crippled. There are evidences now that the Anthrax,
was given by CIA to Saddam to be used against Iranian people in that war.
The very same anthrax , that is being used now to attack the innocent postal
workers here in the US.
4.The most important of all, if the unconditional and full support of
the Zionist regimen of Israel. You are blaming Islam as the cause of all
the problems, without mentioning that Israel is also committing all the
crimes in the name of Judaism.
You need to know that the crimes that have been committed by the foreign
policy of America in those regions and in other parts of the world would
have lead to "uprising " of the people... REGARDLESS OF THEIR
RELIGION. People of any religion or ideology, will not tolerate oppression
any more... there is rise in the global consciousness.America needs to admit
that its foreign policy has expired....
Tonight, I will pray for the children of Afghanistan and Palestine who
will be killed...
Mojgan
* Real culprits
Dear Setareh, ["Anthrax
of the masses"]
Thanks for your good article. Yes, as you may agree, the problem is the
forces that create god and religion and alike. I remember in the 50's and
60's when Ali Shariati would come from Paris to Mashad and we would get
together at their home or at Taher Ahmad Zadeh's place. Ali would always
emphasize on the "Zar, Zoor Tazvir" triangle at all levels (from
the village kadkhoda, gendarm, molla to the country's Shah, army, and aytollahs).
I am sure you would say it much better than I can that it is those who
push the balance toward ignorance (by misleading masses etc) who are the
main culprits. The super greedy, super rich of the world who only see and
try to amplify the ugly side of human beings, spend billions through the
media to mislead us.
The truth is that the US is so powerful, so advanced that if we use our
positive and constructive forces in any of the areas of art, humanities,
science, technology etc., the world would far more admire the efforts of
the majority of us in this great nation rather than hating us due to our
destructive foreighn policies over the decades. Remember? ... Zahmati mikesham
az mardom e naadaan keh mapors.
I thank you again for your valuable efforts.
Mohamad Navab
* Real bullshiters
In the Anyway section I saw a certain Rose
Parvin proposing a global solution to our problems. I understood why
it is put in the Anyway section. Nevertheless some psychologists and psychiatrists
are real bullshiters.
Mrs. Rose Parvin's website not only confirms what I think but also it
is tragic to see how much people can use the weaknesses of people in distress
to expand their own ideologies. I sometimes wonder what we have learned
from our experiences in the 20th century.
Regards,
Darius Kadivar
* Shattered hate
Dear, dear, Wonderful sir,
Your website has just now saved me from a lifetime of anti-Arab sentiment.
I will not bore you with the details, but my reaction to recent events has
included a mounting racism and cultural fear/hate, which your glorious existence
has completely shattered. I am in your debt.
Allan
* Jer nakhorin
Ehtemaalan az aksi ke tu sitetun gozaashtin ["Angylina"]
manzuretin ine ke begin kheyli openin. Movaazeb baashin kheyli open nashin
ke yek dafegi az vasat jer bekhorin
Heyfe site be in ghashangi nist ke in chizaa ro behesh ezaafeh konin?
Bin Laden
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