January 28, 2002
* I asked you not to publish rubbish about Pahlavis
Dear Mr. Javid,
Once I sent you a message via my very respected friend... asking you
as a correct publisher not to take side and especially not to put on your
site rubbish and nonsense comments about Pahlavis. ["Shah
bee Shah"]
Now I see that you are the real instigator.
As a faithful reader of your site I am deeply disappointed by your article.
You think you know everything and you are the most knowlageable wiseman.
So be it.
Abdol Madjid Madjidi
* Oon doreh o zamooneh gozasht
Dear Dr. Madjidi, ["Too
much, too fast"]
All I did was express an opinion. I do not think I know everything. That's
why I publish the grandest monarchist features and opinions one can imagine.
I do not agree with them, but I respect them and I BROADCAST them through
the internet. I let readers be the judge.
You, on the under hand, have no respect whatsoever for people's opinions,
except for those who please you and your cause. You think people should
either say nice things to you or shut up.
I will not shut up. Oon doreh o zamooneh gozasht...
Respectfully,
Jahanshah Javid
* Impartial publisher
Dear Mr. Javid,
Thanks for your response. What I would like to point out is the impartial
position of a publisher and the standard of a reliable site.
I do agree with you that freedom of expression has to be respected totally.
I personally am known to all who know me for my tolerance. I wanted to remind
you that your site is popular and it is worthwhile to keep it up at a good
standing.
Sorry for taking your time.
Good luck,
Abdol Madjid Madjidi
* That's what makes it fun
Dear Dr. Madjidi,
I'm human and I have opinions. Even though I am the publisher of iranian.com,
I don't see any problem with expressing my views as long as those who oppose
me are also able to express theirs.
A look at things published in iranian.com shows that pretty much everybody
-- and I mean every point of view -- has been represented. My views on the
monarchy or the Islamic Republic or ... will not stop me from publishing
things I disagree with. That's what makes it fun.
All best,
Jahanshah Javid
* Learn how to tolerate each other
Dear Mr. Javid,
It was quite positive that we could exchange our views about your site.
My only hope is that after such a sad period that our homeland has borne,
Iranians would learn how to tolerate each other and work together for the
sake of rebuilding their country and have a better future.
With best wishes,
Abdol Madjid Madjidi
* People must judge
I think that you should publish all other opposing views if we are going
to understand the true meaning of tolerance and democracy. ["We
are awake"]
No one in right mind would support the Pahlavi dynasty. However, they
were part of our history, and our job is to be critical about their role
in the Iran of 20th Century.
Thus, Mr. Kadivar's article, and similiar articles should be published
without any hesitation, or consideration. People, the readers, must judge
in the final analysis.
Reza Azarmi
* How dare you ridicule the declaration of Korosh-e-Kabir?
Dear Mr. Javid,
With due respect to you for airing your opinion so openly (Shah bee Shah),
in the first instance, I should also praise you for admitting clearly that
your self-interest comes before the interest of Iran/Iranians
( your own quote "I don't care that much about Iran, and especially
its politics, as much as I care about publishing").
Now you have made your position crystal clear. ["Shah
bee Shah"]
SO - for a man who has admitted to having had a privileged life
during the Shah's regime; then has revolted against that regime (for his
reasons!) and has supported the Islamic Republic, and has even changed his
name in order to appease his Islamic masters; and now has, apparently,
lost his faith in the Revolution and (even) Islam; AND for a man who DOES
NOT CARE ABOUT IRAN, how dare you ridicule the declaration of Korosh-e-Kabir?
If you don't care and don't know where you stand in terms of Iranian
politics, and if Iran and her history and glorious past does not mean
much to you, then how dare you pontificate about the vices of one system
and virtues of another for Iran and Iranians?
I have left the Islamic REPUBLIC of Iran and am now living in Europe,
in a country with constitutional monarchy, and I can tell you Mr.
Javid, when I think constitutional monarchy (especially in comparison
to many republics, including that of Iran), freedom does certainly
come to my mind.
The point is, as you yourself have confirmed, the Iranians of today are
much more politically-aware and are quite capable of seeking and holding
on to a democratic system, be it in the form of monarchy or else. So, now
that you do not care about their future, spare the people of Iran your advice
and leave the decision to them. I can assure you they will make the right
decision.
Best regards,
R. Sardar
* Fascination with cylinders and, columns
Next to "Nothing is sacred" please add "Everything Tongue-in-cheek."
I loved the "Shah
bee Shah" piece; it cracked me up, especially the stuff about
the cylinder. What is this national fascination with cylinders, columns,
and pillars? Some sites boast none (like bi-setun) and some make up for
it with forty columns (like in Chehel- setun).
All this must be an embodiment of the proverbial pastime of politicians
to favor the human rectal orifice with inserts that plunge deep (ta dasteh
foru kardan). Beware of those who market such products as the suppositories
of love, or enemas to rid us of corruption, which the Resolute Nation is
called upon periodically to experience at the hands of physicians claiming
the best of intentions in wanting to minister to the nation's ills.
Guive Mirfendereski
* Outcome is up to them
Dear Mr. Javid, ["Shah
bee Shah"]
I am sorry that you do not care for Iran. I understand that as editor
your first concern is to have people participate in this forum, but that
does not absolve you from "caring" - you can and should weigh
in with your beliefs.
As to Mr. Kadivar's report ["We
are awake"], he for once laid out the facts of the celebrations,
and also reminded us that we do have a history and civilization we should
not forget. In addition, he is right in reporting on the media, the British,
and the forgotten benefits such as schools, tourism etc. - that were
planned at that time.
Nobody remembers that Mrs. Parsa, a dedicated Minister of Education,
was executed by the Khomeini regime. Nobody wants to look at all the horrors
of the past 23 years! Everyone tries to give some kind of benefit to the
"moderates" of today's Iranian regime. Where is moderation except
by lip service?
As to Reza Pahlavi, what is wrong with his using his name recognition
to bring attention to what is going on in Iran?
A referendum by the people for the people is what Iran needs. The outcome
is up to them. The only criteria should be free elections, with an international
oversight committee to implement this.
What happens then nobody knows today, but it sure cannot get worse.
And that is my humble opinion, as an Iranian who cares.
Sincerely,
S. Samii
* King Kadivar
Here's three points for the letters section. Very good editorial by the
way. ["Shah
bee Shah"]
Soldiers in the Iranian army were ordered to grow beards for the kitsch
embarrassment and waste of public funds that was the shah's "celebration
of Iranian civilisation" in 1971. Why? So they would resemble their
ancestors as depicted in countless ancient stone carvings. Nuff said.
******
I don't think Reza Pahlavi should be king. Cyrus Kadivar should. He's
got a catchy name and hangs out in Paris cafes. That's enough for me. ["We
are awake"]
******
While we are on the subject, I have to share this email from my friend
in New York with Iranian.com readers:
"I went to Persepolis this Persian restaurant the other night.
my mom was visiting and god knows no one can go anywhere without eating
chelo kebab.
"Anyhow... I'm sitting there minding my own business when this
nose comes by my peripheral vision... and you'll never guess who it was.
Okay, don't try and guess I will tell you... it was REZA PAHLAVI!!!!
"He showed up with a bunch of the ex-pats... all of whom got there
before him and none sat down OR started to eat before he did... he is a
KING ya know ;)
"The funny thing is that no one even gave two shits he was there.
No one went over to say hi, no one really looked at him and no one sent
a bottle of champagne, and the owner didn't even really seem to give two
shits... but of course it's only a matter of days before he reigns again!
;)"
Peyvand Khorsandi
* That era is part of history
Dear Mr. Javid:
Mr. Kadivar's article was one of the most recent interesting pieces in
your site ["We
are awake"]. I don't understand why you are offering an apology
for publishing it. ["Shah
bee Shah"]
To me it did not "glorify" Pahlavis and was only an interview
report clarifying some facts. We like it or not that era is part of history
and we can not ignore a section of our history just because we do not like
it or do not agree with it. Journalists, despite their personal beliefs,
should be impartial on what they publish.
Thanks.
Ahmad
* New generation of Iranians
Wow! Baba damet garm. For a "disinterested" Publisher
you did one hell of a job with "Shah
bee Shah"! It took the words out of my mouth and saved me the
trouble of writing in to explain the same about confusing nostalgia and
justification for the past ("We
are awake" - which I did enjoy as good piece of oral history).
Please ponder the following or add it to the failures of democrats and
republicans in Iran. Why were the democratic aims of the revolution usurped?
One of the principal reasons was that there was no proper thought for what
came afterwards. We as a nation were so caught in the heat of the revolution
that no consideration was given for the future.
Those who came to question it were silenced by the need to keep united
but even well meaning people kept saying let's get rid of him or HIM (who
is now often called Ooon Khodah Biamorz by the same people) first
and future will take care of itself. Well it didn't.
Reza Pahlavi has picked up on the same politic of not talking substance
and has made unity his only motto. But be warned that it could later be
used to usurp hard gained freedom (and we had a 'referendum' about the Islamic
Republic as well). As an émigré, I can only hope that the
same mistakes are not repeated.
From what I have observed of the new generation of Iranians in Iran,
they are much more self-reliant and aware. For a pessimist I am actually
for once optimistic that they will not want another Guardian, be it Shah
or Supreme Leader.
I think it was Phillip Roth who said in one of his novels (American Pastoral)
something akin to the following : No delusions are more familiar than
those inspired by nostalgia. And now I shall await the barrage of
patronizing e-mails from Shah-Allahies.
Regards
Rostam
PS: I like the way you inspire these debates. Go on, keep making trouble.
Nothing should ever be sacred other than human rights.
* Not over yet
Mr. Javid,
I have followed your track from Jomhuri Eslami's Barnameyeh Aftab TV
days. I have seen you converting from a hard core hezb olahi to a do khordadi
to a democrat these days. I think you "Motohavel Shodan" is not
over yet. ["Shah
bee Shah"]
I am not going to argue to you about the form of future government in
Iran. I am happy to see that you have passed the Khatami era ."Band
nfetan ra az Khatami borideid".
I am asking you to trust the Iranian people. Let them decide their future
path in a free democratic "Referendum". Between you and I, I think
Reza Pahlavi stands a pretty good chance. I would love to see another Spain
in Iran. Won't you?
Be omid Azadi
BM
* Make sure the show is not stolen
I just finished reading "We
are awake" you posted about the Jubilant Jashn 2500 saleh and
saw a few of the photos on Irans slow internet connection. WOW what a story,
nicely written but a bit too longy. Would make for an interesting book
on how the party was put together, even a recipe for those who want to put
such bashes together.
And then read your response ["Shah
bee Shah"]. The begining way too funny. Enjoyed the humor,
and the end, your dead right Who yerns for yesteryears and plus one thing
lets say that Reza Pahlavi turns out to be a good guy there is no promise
the next one in line will. So its Republic all the way from us on the inside.
We just have to make sure that the show is not stolen when the time comes
and for that we need good organization.
But just wanted to say it was a good response on your part and keep up
the great work as a serious but fun loving open minded journalist.
Best Regards
SS
* Loved it
I'm only 17, my parents are both Iranian (father from Chaloos, mother
from Ahvaz) and was born in the United States. So bare with me if I show
any arrogance, I just love world politics and history but correct me on
anything I've said that is wrong.
I'm not exactly sure what these "democratic monarchists" want,
but in my eyes wouldn't it make sense to have a country more like Britain?
Where the government is democratic and the only role the monarchy plays
in it is a as a role model? I sure hope this is what these "monarchists"
want because democracy under a king is an oxymoron.
Personally, I loved Cyrus's article ["We
are awake"] for its cultural and historical benefits, also
for the fact that life was a bit better in Iran that it was now.
So to me, it would be nice to see Reza Shah come back to Iran, but not
as the leader of the country, just as its king, but until things change
in Iran I don't see that happening.
Hoormazd Cyrus Kia
* The aim of the celebration
I enjoyed reading the latest article "We
are awake" by Cyrus Kadivar. very well done article. The celebration
in the Persepolis was indeed a proud moment in the contemporary Iranian
history. The aim of the celebration was: to re introduced Iran to the world
community, as a country with long history and civilization, as an oppose
of just being a newly founded, dime a dozen country, drawn by colonial powers
with hand full of petrol dollars!
It is ashamed that the regime's opponents and western press used this
prestigious event to settle score! It is quite common for countries and
dynasties to hold celebrations to mark some important traditions or events.
When one considers that the current regime in Iran, spends over 100 million
dollars a year, on a shipisho hezbollahi terrorist in Lebanon and god knows
where else, which does nothing but to take Iran's name and image down the
tube, then any amount to resurrect a good image and name for our country
is clearly justifiable, specially if it is miniscule 22 million dollars.
Finally it was not 2500 years celebration that caused the revolution.
The two biggest factors that contributed to the events of 1979 were: 1)
Shah's relentless insistence in raising price of oil at the time that economies
of west were in heavy recession with no sign of recovery and more importantly
2) the concept of "Islamic Green belt" as envisioned by U.S and
it's allies to counter the soviet influence in the region and to de stablize
the U.S.S.R. This policy ironically has been pursued, encouraged and continued
until the recent tragic events in New York.
Only time will tell if there is a shift for a new policy!
Mr. Irani
* Stepping in
It is a brilliant idea that you stepped in regarding Mr. Kadivar. ["We
are awake"]
This is not so much about him and you guys not agreeing on one issue,
this is more about you to talk and express yourself while posting it on
Iranian.com so people don't have any illusion on whether you actually exist
or this Jahanshah Javid is just a fictitious character. ["Shah
bee Shah"]
It is always a good idea to have a picture(not really a physical picture,
but throwing something in, specially in Farsi) to associate with the person,
in this case you.
Hamvatan
* Thanks for the nostalgic apologia
The 2500 Anniv. celebrations occurred within a couple of years of the
establishment of the Rastakheez Party and abolishment of other political
parties in Iran ["We
are awake"].
Had the Shah been more interested in promoting a genuine multiparty sytem,
instead of lavish costume parties to impress foreigners and legitimize his
cult-of-personality foreign-intalled regime by associating it with the Achaemenians
of yore, then perhaps we wouldn't have the IRI today.
But thanks for the nostalgic apologia anyway.
John Mohammadi
* More true to character
In last paragraph of your piece ["Shah
bee Shah"], you wrote: "So be it. I don't care that much
about Iran, and especially its politics, as I care about publishing."
The sentence would have been more true to your character, if it were:
As much as I care about Iran, I am more thrilled with printing the truths
the way people see them and telling the stories without intentionally distorting
them and letting the chips fall where they may.
With best wishes,
Hamid Zangeneh
* REPUBLICAN means ignoring HISTORY?
Dear J.J.,
I read your comments on Mr. Kadivars article ("We
are awake") with amusement, since you are asking questions
the reply of which is already published on your own WEB SITE? today!!!!!
Please go to IRAN MANIA of today. There is an article under the tittle
of (ENIGMA
of REZA PAHLAVI) by un-named writer. You do not need to wait for more
answers, the writer has given it all to you.
Amusing & at the same time what an amazing coincidence! And by the
way, being REPUBLICAN means that one has to ignore the HISTORY as well?
Best regards,
H. Hakimi,
Norway
* We have a shah already
Dear Jahan-'shah' (no wonder your interest in the topic)
I enjoyed reading your article ["Shah
bee Shah"] in response to Cyrus's (again what a coincidental 'name')
["We
are awake"]. Your points are all valid. Only a
month ago I read "Enigma
of Reza Phahlavi" in Iranmania, wrote to the editor and he
kindly agreed that he should have pointed out that the article was sent
anonymously and was not the site's policy. This was corrected very
quickly.
However, I am still unclear about one thing. Do the monarchists
actually pay for these articles to be published for them? Or are they
keen to exploit the 'democratic' geneorcity of the hard-working publishers
of 'Iranian Times' and 'Iranmania'? I sincerely hope that you DO
actually charge them and put it into an account named 'for a DEMOCRATIC
secular Iran'!
Has anyone read Reza Phahlavi's book? Please somebody send some
reviews! We are all dieing to know if he is also keen to share with
us his good memories of the 'Jashn-ha-ye-2500-sall-e-shahanshahi'.
I was about 12 then and was the star of a school play in North Tehran.
I was a top student so I was chosen to be 'Cyrus-the-great'. [May
be I should have scanned my photo of the play, published in the then Tehran
papers, and sent it to you with this email!]. It was about how Cyrus
freed jews, led by 'Prophet Daniel', from Bablylon. Daniel (saved
from the lion's den) is buried in Shush, Iran. I have named my son
after Daniel, in order for him not to forget his roots, but also to be able
to assimilate easily in his host country, the same way as our names were
chosen in Iran.
A lot of what we write here is Nostalgia. The Jewish people around
the world gather every Passover and pray 'next year, in Jerusalem,
free!'. We Iranian exiles even do not do that. But you are right.
The people inside Iran would say, as the Rashti joke states: "mA shAh
nemikhAhim zirA ke yeki dArim"! [We don't want Shah ... because
we have one already.]
Dr Sa'id Farzaneh,
London, UK
* Don't get defensive, push for referendum
Yeeehaa. At last acknowledgement ["Shah
bee Shah"] that there actually are a few monarchists somewhere.
At last a discussion about Shahanshahi on Iranian.com and all the mud
slinging that goes with such topics. Now all my
articles on that anti-Pahlavi manifesto], the issues about
our flag], and even detailed
replies to our "intellectuals" might come to light on this
web site as well.
Clearly if there is to be a referendum on the subject (in other words
a peaceful transition from theocracy), and under international supervision
as well, there will have to be a very convincing argument put forth by
the monarchists. Republican's and some others will be dead against these
arguments, but in the end there will be a vote in the ballot box (which
is what Democracy is about), and I for one will accept the will of the
majority.
One can assume with so many experts with nation building experience in
the monarchist fold, as post graduates in the best universities of the
western world (and many of them top of their class as well!) these argument
will be smart, well articulated, and have some weight to them when they
are put forward. But, people, there is no referendum on offer! And there
won,t be unless there is a unified voice demanding it. Are we expected
to start the campaign for staying with the Republic (minus the theocracy)
or even a return of Shahanshahi before an election date is announced?
For the zillionth time!, the referendum is not about Reza Pahlavi, it
is about the people of Iran, a respect for their wishes whatever it maybe,
a means to unite as Iranians as opposed to various ideologies and going
past the IRI terror, deceit and wasting of our national time with good-cop/bad-cop
games.
Had the revolutionaries made good of their mandate to end Shahanshahi
in Iran that probably would be end of that institution, and we would not
be in exile discussing history. If there was not such irresponsible anti-Pahlavi
propaganda about the $billions spent on 2500 celebrations (or stolen by
Pahlavi's), but instead criticism of the $20m actually spent ["We
are awake"] or enquiry into the accounting methods or personalities
that came to such a figure, there would be ample old men like Mr. Ansari
to reflect upon what they did, why, and defend any mistakes in the court
of public opinion.
But the country is in a mess, millions of Iranian's (many of whom lay
the very foundations of modern Iran) are in involuntary exile, our most
popular artisans are in exile, possibly a million Iranian's are dead (not
to mention Afghanis and Iraqis and Russians) after the uprooting of our
national culture to implant a new one (be it Republicanism, Islam, Marxism
or a mishmash of whatever). All to answer the question: "what qualities
-- reasonable qualities -- can you ascribe to monarchy as a system of
government? 23 years later, the answer is everywhere in the Iran of today.
You just need to take a walk.
I believe "dismissive republicans" should not get defensive,
they should push for referendum, have a say in the detailed procedures
behind this referendum while it is being drafted and when it becomes a
reality, make their case. They should not hold Iranian people's wishes
for a secular democracy hostage as the mullahs are doing, against the threat
of a return to an evil, despotic, self centered, and out dated monarchy.
Reza Pahlavi was right in not insisting on his title. In a healthy society,
it's the people that decide, and they did 23 years ago.
Some now regret it, some not. The more outrageous the claims about the
Pahlavi's (without any proof), the more "shamelessly" glorified
the Pahlavi's become despite their authoritarian rule in the past. And
the more "Sad rahmat beh oon khodaa beyaamorz" and astonishing
it appears that they actually managed to make the country strong and prosperous,
in a single generation, despite such slanderous and self-serving politicians
around, even if it meant for some illiterate people "aqaa baalaa sar".
Amir-Khosrow Sheibany
* Stupid and alien "commemoration"
The 2500th Celebration was the zenith of the Pahlavis absurdity, and
their lack of understanding of a history and culture they allegedly celebrated.
Combined with the later infamous "Art Festival" of Shiraz (in
which Mrs. Pahlavi invited a Checkoslavakian trope to act naked and rape
each other in public inside Bazar Vakil) the Celebration drove the last
nails into the coffin of Pahalvi rule in Iran.
The stupid and alien "commemoration" in which peacock meat
and pheasant breast, imported hot from France, were served to a bunch of
waning and decrepit monarchs was no different from Aidi Amin of Uganda's
celebration of his rule. At least Aidi Amin had eight English men carrying
his throne over their shoulders!
The Celebration, Third Worldish and baneful attempt by a man who suffered
from an inferiority complex, to present himself as the heir to an imaginary
empire, was sick and the laughing stock of foreign press. It was no "public
relation" endeavor, as allegedly Agnew (who was implicated in embezzlement
later in the US and served time in jail) had said; rather, the celebration
was another means of introducing Iranian rulers as a bunch of "rich
Arab Sheiks", drunk on petro Dollars, in the West.
Come on, wise up and wake up after so many years. You need to end your
denial and face the stupidity and shame of the Hollywood orchestrated hackneyed
parade on the sacred soils of Persepolis. This may at least show that the
Shahallahis (royalists) can think and learn a little. Otherwise, there
is no hope for you, not at all.
N
* I repeat: EEEEEEEWWWWW!
I want to join Mr. Javid in his saying "eeew" ["Shah
bee Shah"] to seeing monarchy back in
Iran, except that my "eeeww" has at least two Ws, as you can
see. ["We
are awake"]
Sometimes a visceral expression of disgust says more than writing volumes
about why an historically out-dated phenomenon, such as monarchy in Iran
(with its awful record, especially recently) is truly disgusting. This does
not mean, however, that I am not going to write about the timely question
that Mr. Javid has posed: "Is monarchy also gaining popularity in Iran?
Is it more than nostalgia? That's the real question, that's where it matters."
In my recent trip to Iran, the answer to this question was indeed on
my mind, and I did some informal research on the topic. Hopefully soon I
will find time to write about my observations. Till then, I repeat: EEEEEEEWWWWW!
With respect to all institutions which belong only to the past,
Moji Agha
* "Editorial" (?)
Enjoyed your January 25 "editorial" (?) enormously! ["Shah
bee Shah"]
Thanks for that, and for all the other delightful contributions to my
daily reading pleasure (and viewing, to not leave out the wonderful photographic
features you run).
Alex Patico
* Attention to brands
Gol gofti. ["Shah
bee Shah"]
Haalaa in tarafdaari-e C. Kadivar az in Pahlavi-haa az yek taraf, tavajohi
ke in pesar (Kadivar) be marke eynak va kif-e khaanomhaa va kravaat-o kot-o
schalvaare dastdooze aaghaayoon neshoon mideh az tarafe digeh asaabe aadam
raa khord mikoneh. Dar hameh "maghaalaatesh" hamisheh
tosifi az in ashyaa hast!
Hafteh khoobi daashteh baashi,
Shirin
* Your effort is appreciatable
Dear Cyrus, ["We
are awake"]
it is great to see you are trying to clarify the iranian young generation
with what we has yesterday and what precious leader we lost. your effort
is appreciatable. i have read your articles about Shahid Timsar Sepahbod
Rahimi at cried for sometimes. his memories is in our mine(even if i was
7 at that time).
we expect you to keep on with your what i call Roshangari. it is great
to see there are some iranians'still loyal to the monarchism and their country
and i get more happy when i see this quantity is getting higher and higher.thanks
to god that reallity didn't remail behind the clouds.it would be better
to publish more articles in iranian sites such as iranian.com and www.gooya.com
since there are more visitors for these sites
unfortunately some of these sites have taken a particular political approach
which is following HEZBE BE ESTELAH AZADI IRAN!!! but it doesn't matter.you're
english is perfect and you can reflect your ideas about the past of iran
and mohhamad reza shah pahlavi and other nationalists.thanks and hope to
read more articles from you.
you can have more interviews with the family of iran's army who lost
their relatives in BIDADGAH HAYE ESLAMI!!! and announce them to us.thanks
again.
As for "Shah
bee Shah", i just read it in iranian site and got really upset
of your way of thinking. it is so sad that the iranian society might waste
the time to read the untrue, completely khaeenane writings.
if you beleive in democracy it doesn't make sense to blame someone for
his/her way of thinking. you blame the late shah for nothing.shame on you.you
deserve to be apart from your country and not to be allowed to come back.
you deserve not to be a farzande an abo khak.
i am sure that it is such a waste of time to write you this email since
the experince showed that someone like you would not be changed.you are
like strict people in their mind.you do not deserve what that khoda biyamorz
done to put iran (not your country) in such progress that most of the countries
in the world desired to get a chance to have him aa their leader.shame on
you.you are intentionally a good freind for this terrorist regime(jomhoury
eslami).
at the end i wanna say we, the young generartion of iran are waiting
for someone to bribg us back to our glorious past and at that time. iran
is still not your country as anybody who close his/her eyes to the reallity;
he is not iranian anymore and at any time.
Kambiz Rezvani
* Shah Taliban can dream on
As one of your loyal readers I have read and liked some of Mr. Kadivar's
articles in general. But the one I saw with the pictures of the crowned
cannibal and his wife ["We
are awake"], I just ignored.
You should not wonder whether other opposition groups do not exist. There
is a simple explanation for why you hear more from the Shah Talibans. The
majority had insider information (specially the Jews and the ones who were
their friends) and left Iran before their beloved cannibal's dynasty collapsed
and cried all the way to the bank with their dollars at the exchange rate
of 7 Toman per dollar.
I am not one of those who likes to stereo type but it can not be a coincidence
that every time I have run into one of these people and investigated their
background somehow they were from "old money" and came with money.
I have met so many of them for the past 23 years I have lived here and have
never run into one that had worked as hard as the rest of us to make it
here.
I also, happen to talk to many educated Iranian who have recently left
Iran and reside here or Europe and am amazed that they defend the current
situation in Iran (not the political leadership) and tell me how Tehran
has been rebuilt or how much more opportunities for women there are. I
have not met anyone who is nostalgic for monarchy.
Because of my involvement with Iranian community I interact with people
with different views and not once have I come across the educated people
who have worked hard to get where they are to say that they are nostalgic.
They all want democracy and freedom to vote.
The Shah Taliban can dream on while they live in their push Paris or
Beverly Hills villas but, the crown cannibal took your dreams to gave with
him. As one Iranian opposed to the idea of a bored rich and not so bright
prince running my motherland, I will go back home, take up arm and fight
to make sure he does not lead my motherland. That is a promise.
Azam Nemati
* One more time
Damet Garm for this article. ["Shah
bee Shah"]
One more time ready to say " Marg bar Shah".
Bacheh Abadan
Ocean
* PS - I am NOT a monarchist
you're not even worth an objective dialogue! Your understanding of a
democratic system is as deep as the commies' understanding of communism!
["Shah
bee Shah"]
Off the bat rejection of constitutional monarchy implies lack of tolerance
for opinions of the opposite side!
Lack of tolerance for opinions of opposite side is the violation of the
most sacred principle of a democratic setting. And you advocate democracy!!
Don't be a dick head!
Abbas Aghamohammadi
PS - I am NOT a monarchist.
* Hard to accept
It is very hard to accept Reza Pahlavi, his aunts, uncles, and a bunch
of Kase Lisan va Bale Ghorbanha (relativs, and pets) get back to power.
It goes to say, what have we really learned after twenty two years?
I agree "Shah
bee Shah"!
Franak
* Denounce French Revolution anniversary too?
It's amusing how a celebration of 2500 years of Persian history was viewed
by some as "a waste of money" or the "Devil's Festival".
No doubt then that these very same should normally denounce the 200th anniversary
of the French Revolution, or the Dome built in the UK for the year 2000.
It is quite revealing that those that were so quick to condemn every single
action of the Shah, whetever actually negative or positive, are now silent
when it comes to mentioning the mullahs' deeds.
23 years later, while students and teachers protest against conditions
that are worthy of a bankrupt state, there still are persons who can't see
any of the actual contributions the Pahlavis had provided for Iran. Facts
are ignored, more empty partisan rethoric is shouted. Maybe 23 years of
islamic economical, political and cultural destruction haven't been enough
for them.
While "freedom" may not be what comes to mind when thinking
of monarchy, it is wise to remember the Shah's words about the "freedom"
that was sought: "To those who are asking only for freedom, we ask,
you want the freedom to do what?"
What freedom can come from embracing a violent and fanatical theocracy?
All my hopes and wishes to the youth of today who are struggling for
a better Iran.
Sincerely,
Lion and Sun
* Disgrace to real Iranians
We would not even enter your welcome page (unwelcome) let alone do business
with you. You need to remove the embarrassing
picture from your front page. It is a disgrace to real Iranians.
If Sorry for bothering you. I just take my business where else. I do not
appreciate your kind of people who support the blood sucker of Iranians.
DM
* Your site is very KIRI
Your site is very KIRI. U should name it khominisuckingball.com.
As long as pimp site like urs indirectly kissing mollas' asses fucking
Islam will fuck Iranians.
Gilda Ghassemian
* Reza Pahlavi is his own man
It was very interesting to read Mr. Amini's comments, not so much for
its content but more for its old and tiered criticism of the late shah's
regime ["I
will watch his every move"]. It is fascinating to see that
there are still some die hard old revolutionaries left who still hold on
to the same old rhetoric as though nothing has happened over the past twenty
two years.
Mr. Amini and others like him should realize that there are intangible
things in every nation's life that can not be measured by dollars and cents.
His criticism of the 2500 years of our monarchy celebrations and its cost
is one of those. I don't deny that there were poor people before the revolution,
but did that had to prevent us from celebrating our 2500 years of solidly
recorded history? I think not.
In this great nation that we live in, namely America, there are homeless
people virtually on every intersection in every city cost to cost. Yet America
celebrates its day of independence with lavish fire works that costs millions
and millions if not billions of dollars every single year. Is America wrong
to do it. Obviously not, the sense of pride and solidarity that Americans
feel every 4th of July can not be measured in dollars and cents. America
is not alone in doing it. Even the old so called champion of the poor and
oppressed soviet union used to spend millions every year on their revolution's
anniversary. Now why on earth shouldn't have we as Iranians celebrated a
milestone in our nations recorded history? These things can not and should
not be measured with dollars. But if you insist, let me give you a few points
to think about. I am sure you can come up with more on your own.
Most people put the cost of that celebration somewhere between 500 to
600 million dollars, the actual amount was much less but say it was 600
million dollars. Now what was it spent on and what did we got in return.
First of all, a big portion of it was spent on improvements in Shiraz and
Takht-e-Jamshid and other sites. Building new roads, facilities and face
lifting the sites and etc that are still there. The famous tents are still
standing after all these years and could attract millions of tourism dollars
every year that is if we had a sensible government. Second of all we got
billions of dollars of free publicity around the world, there was virtually
no news paper or magazine anywhere around the world that didn't have some
kind of a report on the event. If our ministry of culture or the tourism
authorities wanted to put simple adds in each of these news papers to introduce
and promote Iran as a tourism destination, they would have to spend millions.
And that was just for simple adds. We got extensive coverage of the event
along with historical explanations for free. If you look at the united nation's
data on tourism you see that the number of tourists coming to Iran before
and after the event shows a big improvement and continued to rise until
the revolution. All these people brought money into Iran. And finally the
shah did a great deal of dealing and personal diplomacy with all those leaders
or their representatives around the world. If the late shah wanted to visit
them each in their own countries, It would have cost a great deal. Now was
everything perfect? Of course not. Should have they used more of the local
resources for food and entertainment? Sure. But over all I don't think we
as a nation lost a great deal of money over it.
Now to be fair to Mr. Amini, he has some valid criticism of the late
shah's regime. There should have been more freedom. Not because most of
his opponents were Jeffersonian in their thoughts but because freedom would
have exposed them sooner. The ban on some books was just ridiculous. None
of the books that were banned were of much substance to begin with and had
they were readily available to the public, they wouldn't have attracted
a fraction of the audience they did. But these are history. Regardless of
all the criticism, some valid and some not so valid, to the late shah's
regime the fact remains the same that Iran under the Pahlavies was in a
better shape compare to its pre and post Pahlavi era and even compare to
the most countries around the world with the exception of Western Europe
and North America and Japan. It is not like there were not any political
prisoners in Eastern Europe, Soviet Union, China, South East Asia, South
and Central America, Africa and the Middle East and Iran under the shah
was an exception to the rule. I don't intend to white wash the mistakes
made by the late Shah's regime, I just want to put things in perspective.
Because sometimes we forget the world we live in. But regardless of what
we may think of the late shah's regime, none of it has anything to do with
Reza Pahlavi.
Reza Pahlavi is his own man. He has his own vision and plans and should
be judge accordingly. I encourage Mr. Amini and all those who think like
him to follow Reza Pahlavi's every move. For I am sure the more they watch
him the more they realize he is the best hope for democracy in Iran. So
Mr. Amini, please go ahead and watch his every move. You will be pleasantly
surprised sooner than you think.
Shaya Arya
* No one trying to make things better
Dear Mr. Amini, ["I
will watch his every move"]
Thank you for your concern about Iran and Iranians, your criticizing
is ok as all Iranians are perfect in this one, but what you could suggest
if you really are concerned. Probably you are one of the "mojahedin
e khalgh" which fantasizing your always in honeymoon leaders or you
receive allowance from the "allah's regime in Iran".
What you really want for the next regime in Iran, which of the opposition
leaders you can introdiouce to people who has a clean bottom? which person
in this world you know that before coming to the power did not say good
things to people? You know, you are one of the ( KENARE GOAD SITTING) people,
if you could understand what is going on in politics and what troubles comes
up by the other politic fellows, you would think differently.
The point is many people think they know more than others and they do
better than others, no one is trying to help others in making things better,
we are selfish.
MA
* Democracy is away of life
Shahla Samii wrote a beautiful article ["What
could lie ahead"]. She touched on the importance of morality
to a society that can live together in harmony, instead of revolting against
its own government. She touched on the importance of having values, and
therefore, a sense that one's own life is meaningful. She mentioned the
importance of family to all of this. And then she touched on what materialism
can do to all of this.
I call these things to your attention, because Iran is not the only
country to struggle with this clash between modernization and materialism
verses a healthy society based on values and principles. Iran is not the
only country where repressive religious leaders insist they are the answer
to our social troubles and attempt to rule the masses. Between Christians,
Jews and Moslems, the building pressure threatens the world with unholy
war. My sense of this is like earthquakes trembling in one center after
another, until nothing is left but devastation.
Democracy is not a form of government. Democracy is away of life and
social organization which above all others is sensitive to the dignity and
worth of the individual, affirming the fundamental moral and political equality
of all men and recognizing no barriers of race, religion, or circumstances.
Citizens assuming responsibility for their own institutions and laws is
an expression of democracy. Only highly moral people can have liberty,
and therefore, only when children are prepared for democracy, can there
be a healthy democracy.
Unfortunately, we do not have one bible for democracy. It concepts
and history are spread in many books. However, democracy is the only chance
for liberty and world peace, because it over rides all human differences
to manifest justice for all. We must, must, address the importance of morals
and principles for democracy, if we are to have democracy and theocracy.
We must educate for this way of life before we can manifest this way of
life. Forgetting this, the democracy of the United States is no longer
the moral leader of nations it once was, and Israel definitely is not a
model of democracy to follow.
Carol Seaton,
Oregon
* Freedom to choose
Ms. Sabety's emotional article ["Don't
ask, don't tell"] and the first reactions to that article,
advocate an aggressive struggle for human rights in Iran. Yet, ironically,
she has failed to recognize one of the most important human rights: the
freedom to choose. The freedom to choose to fight, or not; and the freedom
to choose how to play a role in Iran's path towards democracy.
A few thoughts on that article:
1- Ms. Sabety tells us, "This is how I think others should think
too." Need I say more? By the way that sounds familiar! Haven't we
heard that from every absolutist ideology and their leaders (be it communism,
Nazism, or the absolutist version of Islam)?
2- By comparing the situation in Iran to "Nazi Germany when the
Jews were being sent off to Aushwitz" the author trivializes the Holocaust.
3- Ms. Sabety believes that "[r]emaining silent in the face of so
much blatant abuse of rights is collaboration. Especially if you live abroad
and have nothing to fear." The author is insulting millions of Iranians
inside (even though to a lesser degree) and outside Iran who have chosen
not to go "on a rooftop and scream at the top of [their] head about
this regime."
Many Iranians inside and outside Iran have chosen other ways for achieving
their democratic goals (educating the people, cultural activities, advocating
tolerance and pluralism, etc.), and in this way have contributed to the
current reform movement in Iran. Is their role in bringing about change
in Iran less important than Mr. Amir-Khosrow Sheibany's (who supports Ms.
Sabety's article and bashes "velayat-e faghih" in 3 lines and
writes "I also volunteer my life & liberty in pursuit of the above,
if this is requested by Reza Pahlavi, the only leader I would trust my life
with"! [doesn't that sound familiar? Great sense of humour by the way!]).
I doubt that.
4- Do not get me wrong. I do not mean to suggest that nothing should
be done in the face of the current situation in Iran, nor am I the one to
remain silent. But to decide what kind of sacrifice (if at all) other Iranians
have to make for their country is none of our business! We have NO right
to decide what kind of sacrifice others ought to make, nor are we in a position
to judge how important a certain sacrifice (for example not going back to
Iran) would be in the life of others.
I cannot agree with Ms. Sabety's conjectures, false analogies and fallacies.
Ms. Sabety's article is as presumptive as claiming that since most of the
references in this article seem to point to Ms.
Sohrabi and her writings in Iranian.com (special references to "young
women"; "supposed scholars of history writing about shrines";
"students and tachers of history, who write about Iran all the time";
"writ[ing] about a concert we went to"; "claim to have a
right to bash Reza Pahlavi"; and I guess the "research trip to
Iran") this is an article written by a PhD Candidate in History at
Boston University who is jealous of a PhD candidate in History at Harvard
University!
Regards,
Rostam Marzban
p.s. I should point out that I have not met Ms. Sabety or Ms. Sohrabi
and do not know any of them personally.
* Don't hear analysis about Iran
I think your article on "Don't
ask, don't tell" was fascinating. I have been recently interested
in social and cultural studies. I often feel that social/political journalist
and writers have a wonderful tool (their pen) to influence and educate people
which in turn can make all the difference in the world.
I often have been amazed how i don't hear much of analysis about Iran
and its people from our writers. Though, make a note that I consider myself
a fairly typical Iranian with limited exposure to Iran's news and articles.
However, i still expect to hear more either direct or indirect through
my friends about how things are and what should be done. We have to have
a circle of feedback and analysis for almost every unjust, unfair, non-sense
events or comments made by whoever in Iran to develop more awareness which
I believe by itself would constitute a change.
I feel very sad about the fact that our journalist/writers in Iran can
not utilize their pen but that should not stop us from doing our share.
To make it short. I admire your work/ article and I hope it influences
our writers to do more towards enlightening us, our governments, and people.
God Bless You,
Vahid M.
* We need to support every voice
I appreciate your candid opinion and remarks in the article "Don't
ask, don't tell" . Basic human rights are being violated in
Iran every day, but people seem to be so tolerant, so patient, so accepting
of the IRI and so called "democratic" government of Khatami. They
settle for small victories and don't realize that the country is going one
step forward and two step back.
It is ironic that people complain about lack of alternative opposition
in Iran when they themselves fear to point out the faults of the repressive
forces in Iran. It takes guts to speak up against the cruel IRI. All those
who have opposed the IRI seriously have been eliminated one by one. Reza
Pahlavi is putting his life on the line to oppose the IRI so vehemently.
I truly appreciate writers like you who are standing up for truth in
spite of the fact that your life is impacted by it. We need to support every
voice that is condemning the cruelty in Iran, rather than oppose it. I also
appreicate the forum that iranian.com is providing for all voices to be
heard.
I wish for a day that we have true democracy in Iran.
Regards
Kiana
* Start of something good
Dear Setareh,
Thank you for the article "Don't
ask, don't tell". I hope, now, more people would write about
things that matter more, as you have mentioned in your letter. If more Iranians
living abroad were more critical of the present regime in Iran it could
make life for them just that much harder.
Thank you again and hopefully this is the start of something good as
far as article at Iranian.com are concerned.
Mehrdad
* Unexpected moments of laughter
I would like to let Saman
know that my friends and I enjoy his sense of humor and admirable talent
very much. His cartoons have brought many unexpected moments of laughter
for which I am grateful.
Best Regards,
Saghi (Sasha) Michaelis
* Priorities :-)
It is a relief to see that liberal and fine arts students ["Learning
to...?"] everywhere have their priorities straight :-)
Regards,
Cam Amin
* Kheli khaaye daaree
Damet garm. Kheli khaaye daaree.
I loved that report about interrogation. ["Admit
it"]
Ramin
* Keep reading
i don't read the iranian every day but ur story caught my eye and i read
it and it was excellent! ["The
holy land"] loved the teachers' comments! :-))))))))))
also brought back memories of the books i used to read...
in high school we made a screen play out of 'oldoz va aroosakeh sokhangoo'
and i played yAshAr :-) it was so much fun! i wonder if i can still act?!
always wanted to give it a shot again!
u know... maybe u pick really hard books to read! (kundera can be a
real pain in the butt! :-)))
my favorite writer is raymond carver... i worship him... he's my role
model and a cheer to read... give him a try... especially these stories:
feathers, cathedral, what we talk about when we talk about love
i keep reading these stories over and over again to remind me of the
genius he was... Anyway... ur story was awesome!
Shadi
* Try this
Try warming up to Homer's epic, The Odyssey, by reading The
Odyssey, retold by Robin Lister, Illustrated by Alan Baker. c.1987
(paperback edition published in 1994 By Kingfisher, New York. I read this
version recently when I participated in a book discussion group as a tutor
for new adult readers called Oklahoma Connections: Sharing the Joy of
Reading. ["The
holy land"]
"Oklahoma Connections is a humanities-based project that
takes adult literacy students beyond the basics of learning to read to discoveries
about cultural ideas and human insights that come from reading and discussion.
The program is sponsored by the Oklahoma Humanities Council, the Oklahoma
Department of Libraries, and the Oklahoma Library Association through its
Let's Talk About It, Oklahoma project. Connections programs bring
together humanities scholars, librarians, literacy coordinators and tutors,
and adult new readers in a casual spontaneous setting to discuss books and
ideas."
Student, Dick Lukinbill, said this about Connections:
"...It's bringing the tutors and the students together.
We worked hard in learning how to read. Now we get some of the fun that
goes along with that reading. At Norman in the Pioneer Library System,
they'll say, 'We have these books and this material that we're going to
be reading.' That material that is given to us to read, I'm going to be
honest about it. If I went to the library or the bookstore, I would
not buy them. But because it's this program, I get to read books that
I wouldn't normally read, and then after we read them and discuss them,
I thank God we had them. The Odyssey was one of them, and Eleanor
Roosevelt, The First Landy of the World, then Wanter Dead or Alive:
The True Story of Harriet Tubman. . .
"After we read the material, we have this gentleman, Harbour Winn
(a scholar and discussion leader), come in and he coordinates the reading.
He'll ask questions to get us thinking. Very soon a student or a tutor
will give their opinion and they don't all see it in the same way. Isn't
that what we're supposed to do, see it in oour own ways? Aqnd I'll sit
there and I'll listen and think, that was good, I enjoyed that she saw
it that way, or he saw it that way, I saw it that way too."
"The program is helping me in that I still have a long way to go.
It encourages me to gwet deeper into my own studies so I can move on with
this reading effort I'm involved in. The programs that are set up for
us who used to be handica[[ed-because that's what being unable to read
is, being handicapped-are changing us so that we're no longer handicapped,
where we can pick up the newspaper, read the funny papers where as a child
we couldn't. The Connections groups pput all the tutors and the
students together where we can read the material and discuss what we read-another
aspect of what we need."
Actually, I read The Odyssey, in English for the first time as
an undergraduate student at Damavand College, a bi-lingual women's college
in Tehran, while I was trying to learn to read and write in Persian.
Or, there is always the Coen brothers film, O Brother Where Art Thou,
also based on The Odyssey.
With best wishes,
Joan ValaNejad
* Talking about ourselves
It was just great. ["The
holy land"] It is great to finally hear some people talk about
what they find difficult. I too am horrible in English ... but generally
in the Iranian community you don't hear people honestly talk about anything
"negative" about themselves :-)
Thanks for publishing that article.
G Nahidi
* Times is a success, no?
I gotta tell you. You have a heck of a lot of talent. Totally enjoyed
this article. ["The
holy land"]
Everytime you write it is a bit of a surprise and has something new.
Though, you know, not everyone is as impatient and easily bored as you
are and it is ok to repeat the same things if it works. After all the Times
is a success, no?
Saeid Salehi-Had
* Not going to regular
Here you are again, fascinating. The word holy
land captured my interest, and I couldn't even guess what you are
about to explain under that topic, but I knew it is not going to be the
regular difficulties that the world is experiencing).
Farideh Nedjat
* Old Hadaf classmates
My name is Ehsan Malek. I am looking for my old classmates in Hadaf school
on Sepah / Pahlavi st. from "amadegy" till 2nd grade, and from
3rd grade till intermediate grade 1 in Farhad school in Iran Street/Farahe
Shomali, and after that I went to san't louis elementry school in apadana
st.
I look forward to your reply!
Ehsan
* Reza Rahimi
I am trying to locate an Iranian friend of mine:
Name: Reza
Family Name: Rahimi
Former Address: Tehran, Iran, Tel: 98-21-7883469, 98-21-788346
Workplace: was last known to have been teaching English at the College of
Engineering, University of Tehran.
I would really like to get back into contact with Reza. If anyone has
any recent information about him I would be grateful if you could contact
me at: John F. Harvey, john.f.harvey@usa.net
Thank you.
John F Harvey
* Tintin in Frasi
Do you sell or know wgere I could buy Tintin (TaineTaine) books in Farsi.
I collect them in various languages, and I looking for the farsi translations.
Thanks
Abdel Nassar
* Release Shirazi Jews
I an American was married to an Iranian who was Jewish from Shiraz.
The Iranian Jews were here for thousands of years and lived together in
peace. When I was married my husband and partener for 19 years talked
highly and wonderful about the Iranian people and culture.I love America
and love the people of Iran.
With the wars my husband couldn't look at the television to see the
destruction of the beautiful country of Iran. I was the one who wrote to
Mr. Holbrook of the United Nation for Mr Khatami to go to the meeting to
get closer to America.
My main objective is to see the the Iranian Jewish people get released
in Shiraz since these people are innocent.
Thank you for your kindness answering my letter.
Sincerely,
Dorothy M. Lee
* Write about "Inspiration"
I noticed your fine magazine for the arts and literature of Iran.
I am emailing you because I am looking for native speaking language experts
to contribute a short 300 word article, on the meaning of the word for "Inspiration"
in their language of expertise. This is for inclusion in an art book I am
writing entitled "The Spirit of Inspiration". I would like to
have at least 50 different languages represented in the book, I have 40
so far.
I was wondering if you have any suggestions, tips or leads on where
I could find contributors in the Persian language? I thought you may have
some tips since your magazine does such an admirable job of displaying the
arts and literature of Iran.
The article would include aspects of the following about the the nature
of inspiration; the definition, etymology, how it is expressed in the arts
and the authors personal insights and experience.
I have created a detailed submission guideline with a sample article
which you can view at this URL;
//Humanityquest.com/Themes/Inspiration/ArticleGuidelines/
Thank you
All the best
Edwin
* Pahlavi: Persian not Farsi
Dear Prince Reza Pahlavi,
Hello and I hope you are well. I have seen the word "FARSI"
in place of "PERSIAN" in your articles ( in your web site) for
the official language of our country. As you know "FARSI" is the
internal name of our language but PERSIAN is its English and international
equivalent. For example the internal name of GERMAN LANGUAGE is DEUTSCH,
but we never use DEUTSCH in place of GERMAN in English; or native term of
GREEK LANGUAGE is ELINIKA but always in English we say "GREEK"
LANGUAGE not "ELINIKA" LANGUAGE.
If you notice to the terms of the Dictionaries that have been written
by several great Persian scholares (eg. Dr. Aryanpour, Dr. Baateni, Dr.
Amid , etc.) the title of all of them are: "ENGLISH-PERSIAN DICTIONARY"
not "ENGLISH-FARSI DICTIONARY". Meanwhile FARHANGESTAAN (the Academy
of the Persian language and literature in Tehran) in an verdict has rejected
the use of the word FARSI in place of PERSIAN in western languages (for
several cultural and historical reasons).
The adjective PERSIAN (or; persisch, persan, persiano, persiska, ...)
has a special meaning in the western languages. Our literature (as one of
oldest lagacies) has been known and respected around the world with the
name PERSIAN not FARSI.
I hope, if possible, you revise in your English texts (in your web site)
and please use the corect term : "PERSIAN", not FARSI in your
English Texts. If you want to have more information please do not hesitate
to contact. Thank you so much for your attention.
Truly yours,
Pejman Akbarzadeh
From Persia
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