Iranian of the Day

Dreamer

An insult machine? Wow, in that case, perhaps I should consider applying for a U.S. Patent and protect myself finnacially. Thank you for the idea.

And, no, I'm hardly angry. I'm amused by simpletons like yourself, and I enjoy exposing charletans like you. I have been able to see through your baloney under this and your other screen names, therefore, your questioning of my intelligence is even more laughable.

KouroshS, you are absolutely correct

"This girl is doing what she is doing and for as long as she wants to do it so your bickering"

-I agree with you absolutely. Kaveh's arguments are just plain nuts. I don't argue with that guy. He is a walking insult machine. He doesn't seem to be happy with his life. God Bless his soul. He is not very smart. He is just an angry man here on iranian.com

He (Kaveh) "is pointless."

-I agree absolutely with that statement.

Dreamer and KAveh

Time out fellows.

This girl is doing what she is doing and for as long as she wants to do it so your bickering and beating each other down is pointless.

che khabar e

I sound so "grown up"? I am a grown-up! Manzooret chie agha jan?:)

I do believe that statement because i have seen that happen. So it is based my own personal experience. It all depends. She or he may or may not be aware of the consequences.

I know that these two are separate matters, but i still maintain that some special care be taken when dealing with such individuals, specially if one comes from the total opposite background. You have got to wonder about why's and how's in one's past in order to be able to know that person better, and the choices they made, in order to know what path your future with them will be on, As closely and as much as possible!

Dreamer

Well, what IS your point of view? It seems to change with every post to a thread.

For someone who doesn't like or dislike it, you seem to know an awful lot about it.

Reality shows have made porno cool? What reality shows are you referring to? Is that how you live your life? It's your choice, but it clearly shows you have issues.

Society says it's cool? What society are you a member of? We already know you're not a member of the Mensa Society, High Society, Cafe Society, and it's probably doubtful that you could gain membership to the Humane Society.

And yes you did say it's cool. That's the entire point. Do you even pay attention to the tripe you write?

No, that's me? Wow, what a snappy comeback.

There's not a single person who cannot see thorugh your garbage, and who doesn't know that you have a standing date with a box of Kleenex every night.

But I still have one question:

What do you think your right hand is going to do when it finds out you have been cheating on it with your left hand?

Kaveh Nouraee

You don't like "adult entertainment"?

I never said I like or dislike it. Reality TV shows have made porno cool. That is not my point of view.

You sure have shown otherwise!

No..that is a wrong assumption.

Tell us, wackjob, what is so "cool" about a girl going down on a guy on camera?

I don't say it is cool, society does.

What is so "cool" about a girl whose vagina is like a 7-11.....open all night?

I never said that. And what is this about 7-11? Do you work there?

What does this walking STD factory have to do with Iranian culture?

You tell me. STDs have a factory?

ANY culture?

absurd comment.

We know she's not your woman. You're so pathetic you can't even hook up with a whore with zero self-esteem.

No that's you.

wow, Kourosh

You sound so.... grown up!  :-))  What a non-judgemental and simple comment.   It's so refreshing, thank you!

One thing you said to PC that I meant to comment on.  You indicated that maybe because of her past, a "fallen" woman might be more inclined to make or repeat mistakes.  I'm not so sure.  I'd think that she more than anyone else would be aware of the consequences.  I know the old saying "once a cheater, always a cheater" but I don't necessarily agree with it. 

And whether it's right or wrong, there isn't a man (or woman) alive who wouldn't admit to some "concern" over her actions or reputation.  It's one thing for a woman to have several sex partners before marriage... altogether a different thing to be a 7-11 (love that by the way). 

Dreamer

You don't like "adult entertainment"?

You sure have shown otherwise!

Tell us, wackjob, what is so "cool" about a girl going down on a guy on camera?

What is so "cool" about a girl whose vagina is like a 7-11.....open all night?

What does this walking STD factory have to do with Iranian culture?

ANY culture?

We know she's not your woman. You're so pathetic you can't even hook up with a whore with zero self-esteem.

Me want some Zeba.

Gimme some :)

ex programmer.

I get your point. She lives in america and that is correct, but the issue is being discussed on IRANAIN.com where mostly iranian men or women would look at it rather than our american friends. So it kinda makes more sense if it was viewed from the prospective of The iranian culture. that is my take Anyway...

Why are you blaming a decent woman for being stuck with an idiot as a husband? Is that her fault? How many husbands do you know who formally or informally let their wives know about their appointments with the prostitutes? Do these encounters not happen in secrecy? You don't think that one big reason why women would stay with such bastards would be for the sake of their children and to keep the family from falling apart in the most devastating of ways? Even if there are no kids involved, why do the women have to pay the price for their husbands stupid actions, and why do they need to be labled as not having good values? 

I am glad that you agree with me on this. There absolutely are no guarantees and hence that makes such a decision a very risky one. I agree that there are those who really regret what they have done in the past and have changed their ways, But then again, as they say once a cheater, always a cheater. This category enjoys an immense popularity.

I certainly can not speak for anyone else, but in my own case, falling in love is a relative term and does not mean what it meant back when i was in HS or even in my early years of college. It has much more depth and significance. So based on that I, myself put such a person under a great amount of scrutiny and try to be logical and even if i get to hear her explanation i still may think that it would not be such a good thing to do and i always reserve the option to walk away. I think that using the term close-minded is a very shallow way of describing the situation, just because, one is expected to give in to temptation and forget the past and just go with what he or she feels.

Happiness can not necessarily come out of marrying someone after having to forget their past and the chances that it would bring misery is very high. One has to Think carefully before taking a chance with a person who has been through so many divorces, has been promiscuous, cheated many times etc. Please note that i am not placing all of these under one category, But the point is that more attention must be paid to certain details of a person who has such a background.

It is when one has made a wise decision to walk away, that a better opportunity for having a better partner comes along, and that more often than not translates into a happy marriage.

An experience

Of course it is true that there are many other ways to support one's way through college, but we all know that this job pays a whole lot more than let's say working at a campus bookstore or cafeteria... or even as a waitress outside. The fact that she knows and she is aware of what she is getting herself into, could mean that she is ready to experience something totally radical and to some of us immoral, yet to her it is just an experience. Her experience could lead her on the path of encouraging the future generations to avoid making such decisions. It maybe a good thing. She is smart enough and she proves it by saying that she is old enough to know better but young enough not to care, So i am sure she knows when the time comes to get the heck out and quit the buisness.

David ET jan

I can understand that sex is necessary for humans to procreate, But how can they go on without one or even worse two eyes? You could probably have said that they could make it without porn for instance. Would have been more believaeble:))

Kaveh Nouraee

"If you like this....and if you like her....go for it. Go pursue your woman."

-I never said I like Zeba or adult entertainment.  She is not my woman.

Persia Pele on the other hand is an interesting Iranian born in 

طهران

some write it:

تهران

More on Persian Pele:

//www.freeones.com/html/p_links/bio_Persia_Pe...

also:

//www.realitykings.com/amateur-models/27756/P...

I am not interested in her but, she makes Iranian culture cool.

God Bless her and God Bless America for letting her have it her way.

And let us not forget Persia Decarlo:

//www.freeones.com/html/p_links/bio_Persia_De...

FUCK YOU!

Whoever's in charge of censorship!

American Dreamer

I consider myself a liberal person, but I did not realize that liberals considered pornography or prostitution to be a good thing and requirement for liberalism.

But I guess I learned something

-YT 

Dreamer

What does this have to do with "liberation"? And what does the so-called Iranian "theocracy" have to do with this? They have a collection of porn that would make Larry Flynt look like an amateur.

She's free to do whatever she wants with her life, so long as she's not harming anyone else.

If you like this....and if you like her....go for it. Go pursue your woman.

Abarmard

I hear you, about it being a personal choice, but boy, if everyone chose to behave in this manner, society is doomed, which sometimes when seeing crap like this, one gets the feeling it already is.

Personally, I think it's sad how porn is almost becoming chic in today's pop-culture. The purveyors of porn are doing their very best to make porn almost seem "mainstream," for the sake of business of course. Even commercial TV is filled with near porn-like shows and commercials.

The liberal elite is doing a mighty good job turning America into Europe! What a shame!

is this the record for hits on iranian.com????

daaayyyuuuummnnn...  5,000 hits and counting !!??  LOLL

Sassan you misunderstood

Missed my point by a few miles:

"Not having a choice refers to the situation where a person is forced to do a job. In that scenario, we could argue the social shortcomings that has created that situation for someone, which doesn't hold any one individual at fault. "

My point: personal choice in this case.

اندک اندک جمع مستان میرسند

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2PGCfu7HaA&feature=related

Abarmard, Ayhab is right for once!

Censors be damned, whoever they are... Abarmard you're really good at revealing your creepy intellect. First you say that because she has other choices (waitress, whatnot), there's nothing wrong that she's choosing to sell her body, BUT if she was starved and poor and desperate, well, then, there could be room for argument. 

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your point (if you have one) is really?! If a person has a choice between being a waitress and a whore and chooses the latter, she's making a terrible judgement, period. This girl's only 20 years old, for Chrissakes! She doesn't know better! Her choice lacks maturity and wisdom that comes with age!  She barely has one foot out of her teenage years! We've all done crazy things at 20, but she's going to have this video out there on the web for the rest of time.

And then you compound your ridiculous argument by telling the Captain, "You are looking at this from a religious perspective (values)." What the hell does religion have to do with this? The mullahs practically invented prostitution! What do you think "sigheh" is all about.

This has NOTHING to do with religion. It's about right and wrong! You can be an goddamn atheist and know the difference between right and wrong!  Selling your body when you're starving and poor is, on the other hand, understandable, even if not condoned.

Having sex with complete strangers for money is WRONG when you have other choices in life!

Ha ha Kaveh

Thanks for the laugh:

"She doesn't stand for "truth, justice and liberty".

More like "crabs, syphillis and herpes". 

LOLOL  

Payam:

It really doesnt matter what her background is, at this point we are talking about subject of porn and young people who do it for easy money. Plus she said her mother is Persian and she calls her Zeba but that doesnt mean she doesnt have an American name especially that her last name would come from American father. ...and there are many Iranian girls in US, EU even Iran  who are doing porn, so Zeba, Pele or whoever is beside the point...

Khar: funny observation but also note that there is a discussion going on here so naturally there are more hits many be the same people, vs other blog where that is a limited subject to discuss. Yes we are proud of the achievements but what else is there to discuss

But having said that of course sex being the force beyond the continuation of species (or we would not have been here) , obviously will always be a very popular subject. 

I put it this way: humanity can continue on with one eye or may be even without eyes but without sex will end in 100 years! so take your pick ;-)

Kaveh Nouraee

You always write about being for liberation.

Your opinions of Zeba are no different from that of the Iranian theocracy.

Baba, she is not Persian.

Let her give it up in all freedom since she is not Iranian. Whores like her are needed to satisfy the need of men ;)

To me, this a form of art.

To me, this a form of art.

Abarmard Jan

You noted[You are looking at this from a religious perspective (values), and
that's fine. Personally I don't "approve" of her choice, but what does
my approval mean?]

I will be the last person on earth to look at issue of prostitution from either political or religious angel. Mrs. and I have worked enough with the organization such as battered women shelter and similar organization to know that this is a social issue rather that religious issue.  For that fact, I am one of the proponents of legalizing prostitution in order for those women could receive legal protection and proper education so they could be able to support themselves in a more honorable fashion.

This young woman has chosen to make money the easy way. If she is a college student for fact, there are many ways to make extra bucks for the expenses, instead of selling your soul to prostitution. This is not to say that I approve or disapprove what she does, and since prostitution is rather illegal in majority of the states, then it puts it along the same lines as drug dealer and such. 

Prostitution in fact has many harms to the society, and the biggest one that comes to mind is the spread of STD, particularly syphilis, and AIDS. Both practically incurable. But my main point was exploitation of women and children by porn industry.

Kaveh: I second that dude.

-YT 

Question

If she wasn’t Iranian………

Dose it still makes that much of argument?

….

Or all of these are because some “Gheyrats” are hurt???

She lives in a free country, and she has a right to be stupid, whore, trash or anything you want to call her.

She didn’t ask or beg for any respect from anybody.

This is no ones business.

I understand your point capt_ayhab

If a person decides to do something (having choices), it's not my position, business or concern to judge them. If I disapprove, I stay away. (I am referring to the case on this page, not crimes)

Not having a choice refers to the situation where a person is forced to do a job. In that scenario, we could argue the social shortcomings that has created that situation for someone, which doesn't hold any one individual at fault. This is not the case here.

You are looking at this from a religious perspective (values), and that's fine. Personally I don't "approve" of her choice, but what does my approval mean?

It's a personal matter.

Whoever she is and

wherever she's from, and whatever her ethinicity is, this girl is a total whore, and no different than a street corner hooker.

The performance of sexual acts for money is prostitution, plain and simple.

She is there for the gratification of guys like "American Dream" who think she is some kind of heroine. 

She doesn't stand for "truth, justice and liberty".

More like "crabs, syphillis and herpes". 

It's just a shame

that any young woman, Iranian or other, would look to this as being "gainful employment".  And it's pretty silly to think people aren't going to judge either.  It's all fine to say "it's her busines what she does and nobodie's business to judge her".  Thats true.  But when you put out a video announcing your intentions, you're inviting opinion and judgement.  Plus, it's not like she's asking anyones permission anyway!! 

I think gitdouns attitude is a little judgemental but isn't THAT being judgemental in itself?  I might be put out that he thinks she's a slut but so what.  Porn?  For gods sake, you can't really get any more degrading than that.  But it's her decision.  And you can rest assured she knows exactly what people are going to call her.  And she doesn't care.  No matter what the reasons are, she digs this stuff.  So what.

Besides, I've know some pretty happy and likable sluts and I've known some pretty mean and vicious virgins.  Take your pick as to which is better wife-material. 

But still...  y u c k y!!!!

KouroshS

It would be more appropriate if you make your comments within the
context of the iranian culture more than its american equivalent.

I can't make comments within the context of Iranian culture, because I'm not Iranian. But in my view, people are people. Cultural norms are a set of artifically introduced behaviors, that exist on top of basic human nature. And human nature is something we all have in common. And while I will acknowledge Iranian cultural norms are different than American ones, they aren't necessarily better! And I do think since these women live in America, American cultural norms are proper for this discussion.

There is a world of difference between women who have had a clean
and decent past and those who have not and that is an indication of the
great and positive environment that the former were brougth up in..

Even if those women with a clean and decent past are married to torturers or rapists? Or just generic corrupt politicians? Or greedy and selfish businessmen? Is that a "good" woman, who would choose such a husband? And how about a woman who is married to a guy who visits prostitues a couple times a week, knows about it, and stays married to him? What value is her "clean and decent" background, then? Her husband does not have a clean and decent background, does he?

It
is great that women who have made mistakes in the past, feel like as if
they are ready to do the right thing and walk on the right path...

You are right! That is great! 

...but
can you really trust them to not repeat those same mistakes?

Trust is very important in marriage. I personally don't think love can exist where there is no trust. Therefore, I would suggest that if a man does not trust a woman he should not marry her.

But that is a good point. There is no guarantee that somebody who has seen the error of their ways and has "reformed" will not backslide at some point in the future. That's an important point and one that people need to think about, in a variety of circumstances. I think the core issue is if they've genuinely decided what they were doing in the past was wrong, or if they've just changed their behavior becuase it wans't working for them.

Don't you
think that they are more statistically more inclined to deviate from
the right path and repeat those same mistakes?

Same mistakes? You mean cheating? I saw a study a couple years ago that indicated 51% of married women and 48% of married men have cheated at least once in their marriage. Since nowhere near that number of people have been involved in porn (or prostitution) I have to think there is no correlation. If I had to guess, I would say that somebody who knows they are under a microscope on the"trust" issue would be more likely to remain faithful. But, that's just a guess.

This is not just an issue of who makes the better wife and then
making the comparison between these women and men who might have had a shady past. This is about a deeper trust issue and the possibility of
whether these women would trash somebody's life in the future despite
their claim of being morally cleansed!

Well, I'm not advocating people should go out and marry ex-prostitutes or ex-porn stars! I wouldn't do that, myself! But what if you fall in love with somebody and then they tell you about their background? Do you give them a chance to explain? Do you examine how you feel about it all, and then make a decision? Or do you just walk away and never look back? I don't think it's so easy to predict how people are going to react, unless they are very close-minded individuals. In which case, they probably deserve the equally close-minded wives and the unhappy marriages they are bound for.